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tv   Muzhskoe Zhenskoe  1TV  May 29, 2023 4:00pm-4:51pm MSK

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good afternoon, when i hear a story that two small children went for a walk and got lost , i have two questions: where did the parents look at the children or at the bottle and where did the guardianship authorities look at a dysfunctional family or at their salary? i left all the centers, well done. today in our studio arina fedorova from the kemerovo region arin hello what happened in your village? tell me, on may 18, a tragedy occurred , two little girls aged 2 and 5 disappeared, and the girls left home and did not return girl found in the woods with bare feet and undressed
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deeds. they were there until may 20 before the first half of the day. so it's a miracle that they survived, in general, as sergey drozdov explained to me, i talked to him sergey this, who found the girls sergey guryev and sergey drozdov turns out. they found the girls. eh, so, accordingly, alena was already lying and falling asleep. she was dying, how can i eat, so the girls were without water. without food, on the 18th , night temperatures. what were? yes, they were at zero degrees. zero degrees what they were wearing if you say they're one of you precisely with their feet, but in a thin dress. how did they survive? at all? let's get a look. what kind of reaction this story has already caused the inhabitants of the kemerovo region. regions, the second day two more missing sisters of the kemerovo region disappeared sisters aged 2-5 years volunteers went to kuzbass to post, missing girls, lost children are looking
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for about 700 volunteers from all over siberia 600 people, 2 days looking for two babies in kuzbass parents of their loss not immediately noticed everyone was worried about these girls and kept hoping that they would be alive, that everything would be fine, it was, of course, scary for children, especially since they are so small, as a two-year-old girl could leave the house herself, so it was even a little shock. well, two girls of two years are shocked. this is a terrible tragedy, the kemerovo region. two days later, they managed to find the missing girls, two sisters of two and four years old, went for a walk and did not return 4: 2 years old, all hungry and cold ticks to glory. god alive, please tell me, but in general the search began immediately. i see so many volunteers have arrived, when are the parents? or did someone say? how did you find out that the children were missing? eh, mom, it turns out that this antonina herself has these children, she went to a neighbor at
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3:00 in the morning and asked her, but my kids are not with you. it was only at 3:00 am that she realized that there were no children at home, and she went to a neighbor. yes, the neighbors went nowhere to the police. yes, because they slept next door, that is, hmm, when the children leave home and can spend the night with their neighbors at that age. yes, and the neighbor that sounded the alarm or how it turned out the neighbor said to her, you that lost children. he is what she told her. no, i didn't lose them, everything is fine. but the next day it turns out a neighbor in the morning, well, i mean that very morning, she comes, and asks her, and with her that is, you found the children. she answered her that she sold them for him. and then it was already the nineteenth. the search for children has just begun, hasn't it? and the surnames sergey gurin sergey drozdov it was they who found the girl and filmed it on video himself, and he himself was saved. let's see
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, we drove 100 meters away, because there was an orientation, that someone in blue was blue thing. they began to go around and on the field sergey noticed two girls lying, girls, do not be afraid. come to us. we have come for you. come to me, we've found the two missing girls , now we'll feed you and go to your mother. where did you sleep? well, they found, of course, they wanted to drink, respectively, in two days they drank. well, in the region of one and a half liters, the girls were dirty, burnt, it was hot outside, that is, the children
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were god, is that understandable or not? i can't tell which room they spent the night in because they're looking. we have a group all about children, yashkino and information has been received. well, two girls disappeared, but there are children themselves, as if they were worried and decided to take part in order to look for children. and where did they go in search
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of information that in lenin, eh? the headquarters was located e, that is, the headquarters was quickly organized. yes, that is, it was. yes, apparently, divided into some squares, you were given some kind of your site. yes, yes, there is a group of lisa allert, they er, they divided us into teams and in this group we met my sister. the mother of these girls is everything, like, yes, yes, she also participated in the search. yes, mom, but mom not was. and dad wasn’t just an aunt either, right? aunt, of course, was shocked that the children were gone and went to pray. well, we sort of supported, we started walking, they gave us a site. yes, what a way around we went through these sections of the abandoned place, everything is there, there was some kind of abandoned en-bar, but it’s understandable. what is at stake when the girls say that they are not in some room is incomprehensible. all the question seems to be asked, well, there is no room
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and no room, it turns out. they generally walked, as if through the forest and here in this field. it's like there 's nothing like them far from home found. well, as they say, 3 km from the house, it is clear that she was sitting in the car, that they would not let her out, so that she would not be killed. probably because, well, such a situation, it seems to me, well, any person just wanted her at that moment , just, well, to kill her. listen, you said that this is not the first time this has happened, that the children had spent the night next to each other. from this we can conclude that the dysfunctional family should have been registered with the guardianship authorities, they are registered. well, no one seems to know. i don't even know, yes, no, at all, how they are registered, because their parental rights were already limited, as if their children were taken away and their sister. yes, tatyana is antonina's sister. she helped her pick up these
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children, helped her, how to make repairs, but you , according to tatyana, repair the house, you need to buy it. well, for living, well, you know what to eat with rumors. let us antonina herself be the mothers of these two girls and not only them. a family with many children, yes, we will find out what happened there. antonina come to us. hello, i came with one purpose to return children. yes, it's my fault, but i didn't keep track, my fault, of course we will. let's just talk with you to understand what happened. as if, they never went out of the fence, they always played near the house in the fence. we just went to the swing, the eldest son arrived on a bike literally at 8:00. here, i asked her, tyoma i say, the girls are on the swing. he says, no, mom says, no. what time for the swing, well, somewhere, well, the beginning of the seventh. they
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first went in to eat at the beginning of the seventh , they were still playing near the fence. there were still children who came, they all played together, that there were a lot of them, otherwise i broke up somewhere around the beginning of the eighth. he says, maybe at 6:30 they went to the swing. yes, somewhere like this he knows what time it is in kemerovo the beginning of the tenth begins to fade , that is, it was light on it yes, it was absolutely light 8 hours your eldest son came and said that the children were pumped no, what did you do after learned that the children on the swing, no we went. i went in the direction where the swing is, and my husband ran in a completely different direction to look for what, how would we find out that they won't go far. well, here we just have a forest next to the house, well, right in front of the woods, as if they always play there, we, as it were, he went there and looked. i went in the other direction and shouted nowhere. i started calling who, well, where can they be? well, we just have a friend. she also has children. she
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always takes them with her, a girl comes. sonya takes them to herself and play. i didn't call, what did she tell you? i didn't call her. well, i have sasha there, then i ran, they were nowhere to be found either. then we went to another girl. she wasn't at home either. that she asked me to spend the night, that she says i'm afraid to spend the night alone at home. i'm afraid her husband is at work. she says i 'll take the girls from you. i say, of course, take it, that she often seemed to hang out with them, that we were not leaving either . next, what did you do. i thought they would come honestly. i thought they would come. and what time was it when you thought that they were 374, i started calling again, and we again, i sat on the bike, my husband ran on foot to look for 37 minutes past three, it was already night. yes and you still thought they would come. we searched walked, well, where they never entered published. no, damn it, i was confused and i just didn’t know what to do at all. and then the next day. my
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phone is dead. i came, it turns out my brother, the wife of the spouse. lena, we went to our district police officer lives. here's next door. he gave us the telephone number of the police. what time did i arrive first of the second was the police arrived as soon as they called, yes, as soon as they called the police arrived the beginning of the second day, which did the cops say? well, they asked, what's where? what were they wearing. the children were wearing what they were wearing when they left. i speak irish was somewhere. oh, alena was wearing a blue jacket, behind the boy there are two bear cubs. blue denim tights cerafan naire turquoise sneakers were naire were wearing white sneakers, tights were a dress and a red jacket was on her. i'm dressed. i did not see. i don’t know, but they left in jackets and not basses, and the quality of the video of their children, as they were found, was not seen. i i can't. i didn't look, i showed it to us.
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we will show you this video now. you will tell us what kind of clothes they are wearing and why the children decided to take off their shoes and jackets on a cold night girls, do not be afraid. come to us. we have come home for you. let's take it away now. yes , come to me, they found two missing girls. poor, now we will feed you and go to your mother. there was never a sarafan. here is a sarafan on leni. well, most likely, probably, well, these are older children. well, i don’t know the things of my children’s things, we’d cook where spills onto the swing. what did you do, to be honest, yes, i drank, i do not hide it. you wanted to ask. yes, i drank quickly understood who did you drink with? how many 05 moonshine i do not hide. i had a neighbor. i was normal. i also
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here is my house, no empty. my kids' houses, nobody runs. nobody screams. mom, we want to eat no one swears at the bed. no one destroys the wallpaper, no one tears no one. guardianship authority. they flew in and took the children. just because i got lost. two children. but we found them and made a mess. so, everything was proskin, things were all thrown out, everything was lying around, all the sofas were straightened. here is the girls' room here, here is the bullshit street all the things here , my hostess is the smallest, she loves to tear very much. i have wallpaper now until these pieces are torn, and we will glue new ones, and mom will help them a little. oops,
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i tore off a lot. mother. here i have everything here, here are the dishes, here are the dishes, here are the cereals. everything is from food. here i have a new machine. i always erase. my children are always neat. i always have flowers. i have in the refrigerator. everything is a refrigerator full of meat. here and here is the meat, here the berry is frozen for the children and the lard is salty, and the heel said that we have nothing to eat in the refrigerator empty, and then they generally said, oh, the meat says. what are you, children decided? i don't understand why my children were taken away from me again. no, i don’t know how to get a star from the sky for guardianship. and you, that is, neat all the time, all the time, generally clean, this mess i was when i went home, when after that's why you are in a sweater, a feeling that has not been washed for 10 years already, to be honest, this sweater is absolutely new, i did it for the first time
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dressed. that's when they came especially for us. but this is also brought by the guardianship authorities. yes, and here is what we now see the organs. i was generally just shocked when it was an organ, guardianship staged cut open. here is the oilcloth. these are guardianships. wow! you are in yourself. i want to understand, you said that it is a big offense here, wait, i ask, these are also no organs again, and who i didn’t have time to get out of, because i found to get out. nobody touched this pot for a month. it's already rotting in this pot, how much does this floor cost, how much did they sweep? match of six children, i want to understand something else, what do you live on, what income does your spouse work for. how much does he earn as a stoker. they have 25 to 30
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the salary comes about for sivukha enough for moonshine. it is clear, yes, but what kind of money do you receive benefits from the state. and how much , if not a secret? no matter how i thought, sash there is under 100,000 the number of children. yes, even more wait. no. you don't hear me pricked, so let's say your interview is in this mess. what are you drunk, the second thing that pricked me? what is it, well, do you think the children have disappeared? we found them, of course. a great tragedy, the children are gone. you understand that for a few more hours , these children would not be there, a criminal case against you. started. for what articles about something 136, in my opinion, 156. what are these articles? well 156. this is not the fulfillment of the duties of raising
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a child, contingency with the submission of violence freely. well, the cup itself is 136, and 136 in connection with what are they standing here? only an hour ago there should have been an endangerment, of course, your children have already been taken away from us, as i understand, you have already been told. why did they give it away as it was for a brother in general. children first time, what's the time of renovation? i went directly to the application and wrote to the guardianship that for a month i was for the duration of the repair, it was you who decided the repair to do in the house of children to give or all the same? authorities or guardianship authorities came in a hurry and said, either you now decide on children, or give something. well, they arrived, that it was still cold, that we were, as it were, before the summer. we waited for the walls to be warm, as if they were concrete. we waited until the summer, but at the end the guardians came to the guardianship authorities, they say you can do it. here
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we give you a month to repair. you come. tomorrow, he says, we are in custody. write a statement that the children will be in the distributor for a month. i went and applied and they lived there for a month, and then you took them away. yes, how long ago it was, then we have been for more than a year, and the guardianship authorities and so on have come to the conclusion that you are drinking. registered, probably, narcological dispensary. no drug addicts have ever gone no problem with alcohol addictions. what does that mean i can't drink? why do you drink then if you can not drink? i live and do not work, there is nothing . the fact that i have the same well, no, six children. no, i deal with them, yes, what to do with these people. well, explain to me six children.
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she says, i drink from idleness, mommy, i 'll tell you, so there are such days and bright happy sundays, when two of my children stay with me without. well, just with me. i dream of the time when i go to work and rested, because it is hard labor . grateful but labor. you can’t even imagine that children can read a book to play games with them, that you can walk through the forest and tell what this blade of grass is called? how is it why the article for parasitism was canceled? explain to me please vasilievna from this to call here. this is your neighbor who is absolutely convinced that you have problems. you just traded babies for a bottle. take something nina how could you exchange it for vodka? well, you're a good girl. in what century were they looking for children
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, they were looking for everything, now you were gone, the next day. you just picked up. here we are and i am in my seventies, we went to look. well, you weren't there, i didn't see you, my husband was looking for you, but you weren't there. where were you tonya, in the morning even at 19:00 they said when they got lost. you where it was on the fifteenth, we were at school, they didn’t let us out of school in the morning in the morning, when we arrived already from lunch, the police arrived on 18 it was no nineteen the next day in xviii in the evening. they got lost. are you a mother and are you someone for a long time? you know, well, i 've known her since childhood. she says girly what do you mean? no, she, uh, since childhood, she has, and i have known her since childhood, and she has not been a child for a long time. exactly its happened that here is alcohol it happened. well, i've been drinking for a while now. how many years 10 ago? well, not i know 10 years or not. that's how the kids are, well, in my opinion, here are the boys, she gave birth, she didn’t drink like that. here are these now, then these girls, that she began to drink more often. and
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why does she drink with sasha or with anyone else? well, i don't know. well, it’s different, probably, it’s so strong in the village, you don’t see her walking around somewhere, but let ’s hear what other neighbors think about tonya . the boys found they didn’t have a bath, there was nothing. children are always dirty. if the background is not even went to look at home, sat in the morning, we arrived from work at 9:00 in the morning, and there were no more children. that is, she knew that they were not. no one ran anything that these python told her to climb they drink. show, if it weren’t for booze, so that
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the children would be gone, she came out drunk, that you were gathered here. i'll find it myself. there is no supervision, never worked anywhere. that's it, what do they pay? so now tamar took the children as a neighbor. and as i understand it, a compassionate woman, what do you think it is possible to return the children or not? you know, i don't even know if she, if she would reform there, of course, if she were completely cured of alcohol, then, of course, firstly, this is firstly, and secondly, well, julia asks her a direct question do you have problems with alcohol . ie he question such you sick. she says, no, what are you doing? i want to drink, but i don’t want to, i don’t drink, i always want to start. no, i think if you have been drinking for several days, then this is already a craving. this alcohol is already considered alcoholism. sasha is drinking. well, he drinks too. let's ask if he still drinks, it seems like work. she has it
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boring. and he is working alexander come to us. we have a good family. we want the kids back. i am very glad that you have a good family, only the family is now without children, and you are under investigation and, most likely, you will go to prison? what is a good family? yes it is our oversight, your oversight to swell and lose children. it's called we have a gaffe now. you have been living with tonya for a long time, yes, the ninth year. where do you work? he worked in the boiler room for us, they fire us for the summer and put them on the stock exchange, and autumn comes back. you are not working anywhere now. not now. yeah, you were married before tony, right? and how many children do you have there? two children filed and children are not allowed to see their two older children from their first marriage. they threw out estonia and gave birth to three new children. well, in principle
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, they also threw it, because your children absolutely definitely live exclusively on child allowance. and then on some small part that remains from your blue. that's what he did not drink, then the children got, where were you when the girls disappeared. you were looking for them all night, yes, believe it or on vodka gave it that, a your wife started it too. yes, she went on a bike looking for a booze no, well, how not? she told us if the alcoholic says that the two of them drank a bottle of something. there means, boldly multiply by four. wait, why are you lying? you went to bed. they searched, then returned home, and thought that the children went to their grandmother, went to bed, yes, they slept well. i hesitate to ask, no. come on, show
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me parents, at least one who will fall asleep, when two children are gone, he will not be filmed, even when they are found for another three days. here now, when you are not working, and how much wait and how much is it? yes, what am i talking about, do you understand that now, when you do not work in the boiler room? do you actually eat colym? no, kolyma is here today, it is gone tomorrow, you live on the money that we give to children. that is, i'm not only you, i'm julia. everyone who is here, the country is sitting there. these lovely women, we feed you. ask me, i
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don't want to feed such a gutter. i don't want to. i want your children to disappear, wander through the forests, i don’t want to do everything so that these children do not return to you all, but will the guardianship authority do this or not? that's what 's interesting. let's listen to the paradoxical positions of the authorities, guardianship almost, as always. the average statistical family that lives well we can see that there is not enough for the allowance somewhere. my father constantly worked part-time somewhere, some kind of kolyma , somewhere, he seemed to be at home, rarely in himself. mom is always at home with them, uh, there was a positive trend, nothing special. there are worries. this family didn't call me. here, in throughout the year no signals. eh, nothing came up. no, there were no neighbors or relatives from school, no children go to school. children, neat and tidy, asked
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the children. how are you guys doing. well, everything , it’s good that they ate, they ate porridge there for the lumberjack. well, not hungry, no, everything is fine. they were taken to a social rehabilitation center on february 22, 22. there able. they were alcohol intoxicated by both parents. mother took them in the month of march, coded , created the conditions, cleaned up all the conditions were created for children. that is, alcohol ruined, probably, the neighbors. unfortunately , maybe it was necessary to go in, but we do not include this. in duty. we don't go next door. well, before that, the symmetry really didn’t cause vogue. we were not very surprised when a signal was received that children from this family had disappeared and that the parents were drinking alcohol for a long time from the report of the ministry of internal affairs, and it is clearly visible that the parents did not make any attempts to find the children for a long time and deliberately they did not report to the bodies of the ministry of internal affairs, and the missing children
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are currently sent a statement of claim to the yashkinsky district court for deprivation of parental rights in these parents. i don't know how to talk to these women like that. i said that the situation is paradoxical on the one hand. oh, what are you, is it in this family? what are you, we have it? she’s completely safe on paper, and you’ll notice right away. right there, covering your own ass. for what? i said that you will not see children, because they do everything to make them not seen when kryvaya ass, they immediately go to court, and deprivation of parental rights. immediately didn't work didn't work didn't work an emergency happened, they realized it. all of you fell into tenacious paws, custody. do you think the court will be on your side, or what? not a single argument was made today. why should the court decide that the children should stay with you, not a single one, if parents came here who said we repent for the time that we have no children.
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look how we got out the house. i got a job. since the summer we have with this work no. we are ready to go now to be treated for alcohol together. all. well, okay, yes, somehow you could think that you really want to return the children. it’s like standing in a garbage dump and in the garbage dumpster it has become attached, lord god, my mother is a woman. let's call another woman another mother here. this is tatiana's sister. antonina she says. that it’s just tatyana’s fault, of course, yes. come to us. good afternoon , dear sister, dear. yes, i don’t justify it in any way, but i want it. so that you
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help me, and you sit down, please tell me how we should help. i want us to have our children back. well, of course, you already had mana once, such a situation was correct. something has changed in her life, nothing has changed. do you really think that a mother with six children is a little less. maybe i’m from idleness. no, you saw all this, but she didn’t have one like that, but you see it, now her words from the guardianship authority of the story that she had when you helped her return the children. come on, so her prison can be fixed. maybe no. at least, at least three years will not drink. well, why put her down? they found the children, why put her in jail? well, she didn't find the kids.
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and what did she do so that the children would not get lost and so that they would find it did the guardianship authorities, what did the guardianship authority do so that this would not be the guardianship authorities, what can you do, what did they have to pick up, and they never were . after the children were returned, they have never been, is it with you absolutely about or how are you doing? let's see, look, there are guardianship authorities that are criminal negligence showed it is quite obvious. say too guardianship and any small service. these cities are in administration. that's how dude in jackets and lazy. going through the papers make some decisions there fine. this is how he throws a handkerchief, so you understand the fine. it’s understandable to sign, so, here, then someone is stricter there, which means that the amount is chosen by the aunts, who, as it were, even disdain to go into such premises, which
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actually happens to them is important, apparently, this is a warm place with well, yes, the salary is higher how somewhere possible.
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the pointer is now not to break grades , not to fake a diary, not to forget parents at home, can be collected in one message, and learning formats have become more flexible and technologically advanced, only teachers have remained indispensable, thanks to him, children have responsibility, perseverance and self-confidence become a teacher. choose your university to be a teacher.rf. a teacher is forever, that this is an adequate person, do you sincerely think that she should give her children? well, maybe not for her. maybe i should give them back. i want to help them. yes, i do. i want to pick them up yes , i have one one i have my own house. well, that is, they will fit in jail there. do you have every reason to go to the guardianship authorities to write a statement, what are you ready for? called and
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offered three children. and where should i throw three more? i understand seniors. and the younger one is not blooded to me, the elders are also blooded to you, because this is mom, you are by mother. maybe they messed something up? i don't know what they messed up there, but you're ready to pick them up. i'm ready pick up everyone. i am ready to help my mother so that they come to me, so that they get a job, so that everything is fine with them, so that this will never happen again in their lives. listen to me. let's just take off the rose-colored glasses now if she and he are deprived of parental rights. this means that under no circumstances, even with your good will, she cannot communicate with children. are you ready for this? you don't owe anything to yourself. i understand that she has been herself for a long time, i
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can’t throw her out of my life. you sympathize with her because she is your sister bloody and etc. yes, to me, to be honest, but her life does not care, as always in this studio. she is an adult. here is the subject of our concern here and i ask me, just as a citizen of the russian federation, can i entrust these children to these parents? i will say, no, we heard a wild story, as always. let's talk to the experts. what to do and how, let's start with you soon. oh yes, literally. today a request will be sent from the profile committee of the state duma a. first, uh, you have to understand. uh, what happened there with guardianship further we will also intercede that in no case will the children return to you, and already you also need to find out about your aunt. why are they offered three. why not? what about a personal request? don’t give birth to antonina, only more,
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please, well, dear, aunt tatyana yes , please leave hope, uh, to take all these children for yourself, why? because you, too , are not healthy in the same way as your sister does not go to yours is called codependency. you are trying to save her children, and so on absolutely, without weighing your own strength. you really are now in some kind of denial of reality, and the reality is this. and let your beloved sister. the disease that is most deeply ill in a person is chronic and judging by what we have seen, and what is called the stage of remission, she does not shine. well, only if a prison comes, as a prison deliverance. you will not be cured for sure. she doesn't educate and re- educate people like you . coincidentally, i am generally from the kemerovo region and, well, sort of in this
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ether to me, maybe more clear. why did it all turn out this way? well, it’s strange, by the way, that they missed such a moment that taiga is everywhere and it would be interesting, well, in quotes, to see how you would behave if the bear had just taken them, of course. yes, what i'm talking about is not turning to all my colleagues and to the psychiatry service for narcology of the kemerovo region, but to put it on a personal initiative account. hey, those characters. and regardless of what the investigation decides. and bring people to remission and attend according to the schedule, and which prescribed by law in the most severe cases. and if this is not done, then i will take the initiative. how is your colleague? it's very easy and simple to go home and i'll see who is personally responsible for this area. nobody but my sister. i thought you were
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okay. honestly, it turned out not, who do you want to save your nephews or your sister, of ​​course i want to save my nephews. i am not defending her. yes, i'm telling you this monster again. she can't handle your help with someone else's help. she can to improve, only she herself should be, and her desire would be a doctor. well, to the doctor, she must go herself, they must drag her. you will contribute better to the investigation and the narcological service and stop thinking that you have to drink a little. this is fine. i want to remind you how the father of the eldest boy died. she and her brother, drunk, froze to death in the forest. you want such a fate for the children, no back for the children
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who bite her. i didn't send a penny of child support. i 1.000 rub. without us , your child would have died , you won’t tell anything that you have it in worms in sat on the bed. and you are sure that this is your child, but she met with a man for a week, they slept together. yes, the test result is in my hands. are you kidding. it is not ours before being announced. still, i want to ask again, nikolai, who are you? are you sure this is your child or not? good evening live

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