[000:00:52;00] creative industry podcast with you elena hyper and roman pockets media manager chief chief chief in the creative industry today the magic children ivan dmitrienko and katya temnonova, an actress and an artist, are visiting us here, in general , we know everything here, which means i played on the guitar and played in a band 20 years ago and 3 days ago, for example, my daughter is now also playing a fucking musician there. oh, by the way, by the way, it flies like one day really, but in fact, the most important thing is that when you leave the guitar on stage. you 46 years. so these are 17 again, and lena is a producer. and we have. in general, a normal company gathered. i even now had an idea, maybe you become host of some paw podcast podcast, because you are so wonderful now it's a great idea to put the baby there were more than a thousand on as they say. i think the only thing that's going to be nerve is we're going to decide which one of us is the baby.

still, who is the truth, then glagolitic, and then we will analyze. you now we will have such a video for me, so that a program appears in us finally, in which the guys themselves really ask questions to the same peers as themselves, because? well, we actually say a lot, in what we no longer understand so, to tell the truth, and our guests now, so let's try. we have to figure it out. yes, yes, finally hmm how did it happen to you? here in your beautiful practical infancy, take and become famous throughout the country. and sometimes even beyond. yes, katyusha, i was 6 years old. i shot for magazine catalogs, and then 8 years. i went to a film school and

studied, but individually from film school. well, i wanted to do more development, and then just a couple of months later it happened. my first casting, then everything went, went. ivan walked. through the uh, through the musical mm through the thorny musical. i want to say that, uh , i just have an incredible conversation partner for real, because we were sitting in the dressing room. now, uh, incredibly modest, first of all, girls, which is rarely proportional to famous actresses and actors. this is probably the glorious truth. here i just want. give away credit for such a wonderful companion. and about me, you know, i'm a guy grown on cedar cones. i'm from the city of krasnoyarsk desperate life hatch. it's just that i just loved what i do, probably, and this is the whole point . hmm. i believe that truly, if you are doing a job that you sincerely love , you will definitely succeed. it just doesn't happen right away. i, too, didn’t succeed right away

. i’m 7 years old, and all the closed doors unconsciously from 13 consciously, so i fought. and at the age of 15 he left under what circumstances, but hmm uncle zhenya orlov gave me this, well, a well-known producer. he would be the producer of the fifth swindlers. uh, cream puff, well, a lot of whom he brought to the stage this creative dad is true for many. before that, my dad always told me to pick up a guitar. i something, well, do not be silent, the child was all that. and here's my uncle. zhenya is given a guitar. i had no options, do not teach. go play. of course, then i understood, in general, why didn’t i pick it up before, dad said he spoke, but in the end my uncle didn’t, yes, and dad was delighted, but at first he was in vocals after all. yes, at first i was three years old. it’s just that competitions have already begun there for only six or seven years. here, well, there, from 5:00, maybe some kind of children's competitions in general. by the way, how do you like vanya on creativity? i

have vanya's favorite song. this is venus jupiter . it's very much like many great songs, but it's a super hit, of course, yes. it's just that song that made you famous. yes, that is in theory. uh, before that, you invested a lot in your studies, right? or how is it, how is it? that is you feel, you invest in your studies, generally a sore subject. i'm not me, if here , looking at what kind of study you knock out, well, it's like entertainment, self-development, for me it was a hobby. i never in musical schools anywhere in general i was engaged only in a vocal, a guitar a piano. i've always found a solution for myself somehow. how to learn to play the guitar in general i mastered loza in a month and a half. that is, they told me that it was super fast, in general, i already took a barrel in a month and a half from someone there. well, like half a year later, it doesn’t work out what ddt was, that’s all. something like this i,

in my opinion, sang the very first song. but there, nevertheless, self-development prevailed for me. i always, uh, wanted to develop myself, that is, i could never play there classical music or whatever, although i respect it very much, and the classics are ahead, everything is true in general, but that is, well, i myself have never been interested so that it somehow learn to play. i always wanted more modern, but no one taught modern. here i am i started like this, of course, katya, what technique do you prefer? what school? what? yes? in which direction to develop? well, of course, the actress wants to go there, maybe in the theater. well, in general, i want a movie, probably, i prefer a film set, a set, a camera camera - this is my best friend. well, i don't know, that's how it feels. it's like i'm looking at the camera the camera is my best friend. that's just right, well, the camera loves and the camera loves the camera. this is the most, in general, the most important thing, yes, here is the first casting. there are a lot of people there

it didn't bother me. everyone looks demand. say something, yes fairy tales yes i will tell, say i will tell the hero is born inside you. that's how you feel when you start to, uh, immerse yourself in the character that you need to play, in general, i immerse myself in the character. i 'll read the script first. and i need to understand my hero. but then just try to get used to the role. i get it almost immediately. i mean, it's different. it's, uh, well, a person can play and bake, but gets into the frame and everything is lost, for example, and vice versa, respectively, yes, all of you, you can, well, conditionally ivanov on camera on camera. excuse the camera and everything is fine and the camera also loves and in general, everything , of course, and this is a profession in general, well, as it were, how can you be separated in another world, it’s like how you can go into the frame, not be ready for

this all life went on. a million people, like me. i 'm talking about what is personally about us. we, we worked for this, everything, there is our childhood and all that. i am sure that many will say that, like, what katya has there, like, and now there’s kind of virginity going on there, but i’ll say that when she works so much, there’s no childhood there, in general, that is , like she’s like you, how i’m sure that i have friends there, how much she works. i'm sure it's a lot of work. here they say adults don't work that hard there. how many children who are stars do not have friends, some friends. this, of course, of course, is some kind of echoes of the old show business. that's good. you know, we didn't have friends. a little bit, friends, of course i have a lot of friends who support me, my family supports me, so the family is your friends. yes, of course, dad, mom, brother. yes, i still have friends, of course, you know, well, from the old went to the business and the old industry, sometimes they say it's better and not tell anyone. well, what are you going to do?

and only then, when gop e, then let everyone see, so that the enemies do not envy, but relatives, so that they do not worry much , you will do something, something is wrong. here's how close this one is to you. here, what do you think about it? no i on the contrary, i am still that adviser. i always consult with my mother, that is, like, i have some kind of story. and if i'm in doubt about something, i'll always come up, i'll ask, like, bye. what do you think, what is it for me to do this at all? should i be doing this? i have an excellent team with whom i generally give advice on everything, that is, who, in principle, are aware of everything that we will do, because somehow we come to this proposal together there creatively. that is, i work in a team. i don't have any it’s just individual there, uh, projects there, like, i don’t hide anything, as it were, the guys. and vice versa, we do everything together. that's by itself. there, uh, other people. it's me, and no matter how i have to say, nobody asks, like they ask there. what are the plans for the future type of live, i say well, the concert

and that's it. i’m not afraid to say this about concerts, that is, it turns out to be a family, your team, the main and first, yes, that is, i recently watched a film about a documentary film about wiggle, only she has a mom dad, brother, this is her. and you initially go. that yes, like a mother, let's say i invested everything in general, in principle, thanks to you i appeared here, then if she had me then in the theater i would not have paid money for this theater all that, as if it only seemed. and by the way, i also studied there for nine years, but listen, how do you feel about the fact that a huge number of parents? well the last probably 10-15. they constantly treat children, place them in various circles , numerous of many go five to six and they have no personal life, in general, like it, and the child must, as it were, choose for himself what he wants to do. that is, for example, i want to sing. here comes the drink to sing. i want to draw let him go to draw. that is, it is not necessary. that's somehow all the time the child back and forth. you can go back and forth, as if asking him what

you want, he will answer everything and everything. maybe this is how this impulse will turn out. i am very artistic for the first time. well, i've been in commercials. here's how it happened. i 've been in commercials. and my mother says to me and why don't you act in films? well, we really dove them like that. and why we don't go to the movies? and so we went to the agency and auditions, then, uh, cinema, and everything is somehow everything, yes, you are talking about this whole movement with mugs with me. a little bit wrong, well, just a little bit at all. i agree, uh, with the words about the fact that parents should, how to listen to the child, but it was just a little me. so i was just too young to be aware of my wants and needs. yes, and my parents, as it were, they, on the contrary, sent me there there, yes, they helped me. if by myself decide, i came there like that, but i want to play

football and come to football. my dad used to buy all the uniforms and equipment for me. actually i came hit. i really came to football , hit my knee and didn’t go there again, and he bought beads for me in the form, the coolest dad games. i want boots only in the bath. you wanted to take two classes. so no. dad, i'm not going to fuck. okay take it. that's how i kept going . one lesson and everything went to hockey went to swimming. i was seriously engaged in swimming for a long time, which i also did for two years, what else it was basketball. and so, and the theater was always and when the theater did not get tired. that's where i stayed. well, although they still went swimming there , it’s eternal that from the theater to swimming from swimming to teach lessons to sleep and to school, but here there is a personal life wrong, where do you lose? here are those 15 minutes between swimming and all my whole terms. are you forever? well, it’s good for me that one producer, and the old one, so to speak, and the old guard of producers told me about children that at some point they, in general, demolish the tower so, in general, soil, in fact, greatness, and they turn

into stars in the worst sense of the word, that is, these whims, well, why not victims, how relationships suffer. well, we don't have a type. well, who knows? well, i think that we are not victims, maybe it is because you have been walking since these three years and slowly with small boards with small boards that you need to tell the child so that at some point he does not lose himself. i'm a star mom, leave us, like a circle of moms you ask for advice bring mom. well, don't catch yourself. here you said wan awareness, yes, that is, i am from the age of thirteen. i am aware. well, yes, it wasn’t like that, oh, i catch myself on the fact that i was now carried away by this in general, but i think that this is not something that everyone goes through. everyone should go through this, because this is such a topic that you are experiencing next to you there are people who push you away from this.

that is, my mother immediately gave me pen damn it, i was probably 13 years old. it's not even venus jupiter yet. it's still, well , i wasn't anyone at all, and i was somehow who you are. there is. well, i, i then, i also had these main stages on the personality line. that's 14 years old. it’s just that i was such a child, in general, i recorded, there’s like a camera there and i flew into it. here is a camera of many views in the well-known social network. and here i was thinking that that’s it, like, so i grabbed the bird by the tail in general, and then my mother immediately gave me a pendel to the side. i'm just fine. this period is manifested not in the fact that you walk, there, like such a super, cool you want. you are normal, you are just for me. everything is always shown to the family. you start with loved ones. you begin to neglect the attitude towards them. that's the saddest thing about it, because uh, there are people around, but there's like your family. and so, when you start to communicate with your family, putting yourself there at some

points above them, then this is very bad. so, when i turn around, i understand that well, like, i know, all aspects of this disease , no matter how much you want to return to them, katyusha , yes, i had a feeling, i don’t know, in fact, i didn’t send it, because i'm learning then eat more load the children. in general, this is actually me, i just like to study there. here is something new for you to learn there, to try some new cuisine , to travel, and to meet new people in different cities of the country. this is an extension, outlook uh-huh, and your parents expected you to appear like that at all. i don’t know here , i’m ready to be interested in such a development of events , that is, she herself knows everything that she wants. yes, and parents are very proud of this, but this is generally a child on her own in such age. this is very cool. my mother is like a conductor. here she is with me all the time , she is with me on some kind of film expeditions on tests

, even the tests themselves, when she comes, we sit, my mother and i we analyze the heroine there, how to say. here's a living role. i, of course, myself, but the personality of the character and all that. everything, here the character of the personality must be understood here. your heroine circled. of course, i've been on all the billboard posters lately, yes, which are just that, as if i were playing someone at that age then. well, actually here, and not there was absolutely nothing to play, absolutely i am that shkodnitsa, such a cheerful girl. i am she , that is, i have absolutely nothing to play, that is. i am me, but there are no gadgets at all, for example, in this world, in which it was even good. this is very important. he's even good. it's even good. that is, like these games, these are all sorts of things, but the indians. here we played. there , we went to all kinds of indians and talked there, that is, this is the most important communication. not here it is on the phone like this to sit, and most importantly to communicate, so it can

and take away all the grandmother's gadgets, they do not yet exist in the palm of your hand. yes, i am listening. finally, if you take away gadgets, how to look, then listen, i see, well, i think that, probably, in children. i think you should not take the phone, you need to give free rein. freedom. my phone was taken from me. in short, i was punished for this. i was taken away by touch-screens and given push-buttons for me, because it was very difficult for me to pass the time. i myself am shorter, well, probably, at the age of 16 i bought myself a push-button phone, removed the touch one, because what, well, someone writes there. she push-button only call. you open. hello hello, and i just walked with him for a week. i cleared myself mentally so much, it just became easier for me, because it was so convenient for you to just call. you can find and outgoing answer. well, i mean, it's really great. cool. here but when i was little, for me, it was a computer punishment, i was not allowed

to play, but i was not instilled there was not much. it's just that if i played the computer, then i didn't do my homework. and it was very bad, of course, now there will be recognition. i have never played any computer game in my life. true, i know existence, but i am so afraid that they will eat away from me, the time that should have been spent on completely different things in general, and i am afraid to leave. here in this alien reality, uh, well, because both lives, what adults say fears are more serious than those of children. god, are you afraid to go into a parallel reality in general, but listen, what do you think about us in general, all the flies in a parallel reality in the future, actually actually, it won't be very good. because you have to live in the present, you have to live in the present. that's the fact that with him there do not think there, and in the past it was about what will be in the future no, you just need to live in the present. lena and i had a very serious discussion on this subject. and in general , there is e, a fairly well-known science fiction writer who believes that 40% of humanity is ready to leave and , in general, to live in a virtual world has heard. yes

it's a universe of 15 million, and man, wow. well, they kind of interact there. they really go to play further, you feed them. in in general, i don’t understand some. very funny. everything is realistic. it's just that there was a similar story. but this, of course, is, uh, a terrible thing. i don't think it's bad that in our country , uh, it's like everything is evolving. and that we are developing technology, all that. it's very cool. but of course, it's too much with the fact that there, like, people stop communicating. they live, as they say, everything is generally sad. i myself do not happen by chance. i'm sorry, i'll go crazy and in

place the head is all it is. papa the way love will forever fail anything succeed. this is my world. lord children's day concert tomorrow on first we continue our conversation with you creative industry podcast. our guest today is vanya dmitrienko, an actress. katya is dark. we will return to creativity. say, uh , venus jupiter, let's say, was written at some point. uh, yes, but you had no fear that you would generally become slaves

to your hit movie so you would perceive yourself to be in time all your life. this is victory well, okay, nothing to be afraid of. yes, but here, for example, i can say by myself that periodically, and i have a problem with the fact that if someone knows that i worked on a group of tattoos, then it's up to me. this is how it stretches, like a label, as if nothing else existed during this time. it’s as if i didn’t do anything else, so i, for my part, advise you to constantly take on new and new heights, this goes without saying. but let's say you say if i'm going to be like, uh, hostage to my hit. why should i be afraid of this at all? if it's a hit, it's an incredible success, the tatu group is an incredible success, there were no such groups.

russian still, that is, they went on a tour of the world tour in general, as that is, like, of course, he called it. yes, this is incredible. cool. this is a huge success and someone about this and dreams of himself can not even afford. and that is, both a hit and venus beads - this is certainly some. there were self-known songs were lego was 36.6 a lot more than that and we are now releasing albums, but venus is a hit that hit 198 in the world charts. he flew into auditions only for russian listeners from other countries. that is, as if of course, i really want to interrupt, but it ’s hard and the fact that he, in principle, is an incredible pride for me and, as it were , always strives to eat something, because he is. this is my pride. they are afraid of what i will leave with him. god forbid, i'm filming, i'll stay here in our past. where are we from? yes, but it was very important to make sure that there are numbers on the chart. how is it tested? for example, when you look at how many views you pay attention to it.

how many views did manyun have on platforms or how many auditions did he have in streaming platforms? of course, this is interesting, of course. it's interesting how you can't see it. yes, of course, what is this for, just to understand what standards you set there? such some for himself more. and if suddenly one day it will be a little lower than we would like the expected result to be, that is, it, in principle, happens, even this is actually correct, you need to move on. that's right yes, then it will be such a trigger to once again, and there is more on the street yeah, now they are crying again on the other side, listen, and i to you, and it’s important for you in general that people of the older generation also know you or you didn’t think about it at all. well, let's know you, your mother. this is good. the generation goes on for me. in fact , i don't even know how to say this? well, probably

not really. well, as i know, everything is fine. how do you imagine the audience? well, well, this word is the audience , this is how they look like the words audience, this is there, i don’t know. there are some people who are watching me, who are liking something there, i don’t know, well, it’s just, that’s who like me, this is my audience. she strongly believes in your heroine, of course, but that's no way. and you, uh, do you choose the script, so, when they offer you, all of a sudden there is some kind of uh, very negative character. uh, let's say there is a dagonist who starts doing some completely unpleasant things. and these unpleasant actions, for example, other children will look at and repeat. well, i would play a real bully. in fact , i always dreamed of playing some kind of anti-hero. yes, yes, because it

causes the most nerves. yes, well, this is for me somehow hmm adrenaline adore. yes, i love it. well, in life, in fact, as if there is not much time, you just need a little brother. well , well, my brother. i love, therefore creative hooligans are visiting us. every creative person has a so-called glass ceiling, which must be eventually broken through and reached first, then despair, pain, which means, uh, many people have a serious creative crisis. after that, someone punches someone. no, this is a creative flow. here's next. here's the development we're talking about now, uh you already had, first of all, a creative crisis, when you sit and you can’t write a song. nothing works, complete despair, or you can’t play and the camera stops loving, and so on, no. no, no, once again no and never will be and never will be. there is

such a never say never. i think it will never sound very appropriate in this vein, but i’m very interested in how many of these ceilings there are, because, and every time you step over yourself in fact, you break through it? that is, when you started when i first got a cover there for a lot of hits. i, too , broke through some kind of ceiling when the song became somehow famous. i also jumped and you how many of these ceilings they think that they are just they just constantly happen. i don't even know how high the ceilings are. i think it's just , uh, steps in a flat room. here's up. you don't exist in the present. i always say that in our country infinity strives absolutely because of the apathy of the creative crisis. i think for now that i have an opinion on this something one. i believe that all apathy and creative crises are personally in the head of a person. my album is called paranoia. and it is precisely about the fact that we develop a lot of problems in our head, the problems outwardly become internal.

and you kind of twist them in your head and it becomes, as if you scale it somehow, and they become huge problems for the whole in this, really the salt of many people, a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey in the head, so to speak, well that you give, in fact, why does lena react like that ? they think we imagined it completely, otherwise. well, as a rule, this is for the worse, otherwise and then suddenly this is the most, this is the most beautiful thing. that is, i have. here was the question. they didn't have time to answer. there we flew on about the audience for me. it was very important, but to get 35 from an adult audience and these are different views on this, but i have such a view precisely because i still have a concert activity and when a children come to my

concerts teenagers. or their parents let them go. it was important for me to let my parents know that i will not teach anything bad to children, and i will not say anything bad to them, and i have my own stable worldview, which i am ready to share and some right things , some right messengers. i am ready to convey to them, that is, when the theme does not come to concerts at all, when both mom and dad are interested in daughters interesting, they are all worth getting high. this is the most beautiful thing in general, because not every teenager succeeds in getting respect from adults. especially in a creative environment. they really have the majority of the opinion that our generation is a generation of gadgets and absolutely rash acts. i can speak for myself, actually about adults. i listen to guitar music, indian music, well, western music. yes , i listened to a lot of it at one time, and i always had it. why do we have no mood e young man. a guitar that's good plays and sings well. it’s just that there was no need for another, in general, requests. yes , just to stand on a sandwich, and when i

saw on the air, er, one of the concerts where vanya played the guitar. he sang cool, in general for me it was it. it's like a new breakthrough here in our glass ceiling of show business. and it was really cool and how do you know what you are broadcasting and it is very sincere and i, for example, when i listen to the radio, and i already authored so much that for me i filter very quickly, songs, in in which there is composition, in which there is graphomania, in which there is no soul, and i am very pleased. but today to see you here and talk to you and once again find out, and the depth in which you really are, and in which you dive and see katya , because that's what i feel from you. i want this so that other children are not afraid of this sincerity. you know, it seems to me that the state of closedness does not allow to escape.

to this deep experiment, at school , sometimes children are told, that is, like, be more restrained, that is, you must always keep your emotions in yourself. i think it's absolutely. if you want to talk, if so smart, it's just amazing at all. if you want, say you want to rush, go ahead, rush, be sure. these are incredibly wise words, because they once asked me, hmm, what would be the law. i would introduce e , in short, the constitution, yes, that's right, and i said that i would ask all parents to send their children to study in theater, because the theater is very liberating. i believe that it is very important to learn how to communicate with other people in childhood. and when forbid children or type fetters them to himself. i don’t understand this at all, when a child knows how to communicate, get to know each other and all that. this is very good in the future it

will help him a lot. katya in general, yes, they sometimes impose on children, like, here, be more restrained here at school, especially the name imposed will be restraint. it’s always at school that the director is on the set, the director is on the set , of course this is, but the director can offer some of his own thoughts there, that is, or maybe i did this. maybe i'm like this i’ll do it, but now we won’t say what is being worked on, we can’t say anything, it’s going well, but there is some work completed. but soon my project will be released. i play a girl psychics it was easy to play a girl with e. yes, there is extra, well, in general, all the heroes, all the heroes , yes, yes, the heroes. uh, movies are supposed to be extraordinary, yes superpowers. here. in general, i always dreamed of playing in some kind of mystical thriller. that's somewhere in horror movies in some dream was a rook. i really love

some horror movies, something terrible , otherworldly mystical. here it is, just my my love dream come true. yes, yes, pour some more honey for our viewers. and how do you feel about soviet cinema and soviet composers, and therefore i will say i have, but my favorite soviet film. this is me walking around moscow and the diamond arm. it’s generally classic there, that there i first looked at my hand with my grandmother, then i looked with my mom and dad, and then i looked myself and uh , by myself all the time, but no, i don’t watch, i’m new year’s magic, yes. listen, i don’t know, probably, and then i was going to the movies, another thing wasn’t quite so developed back then. the film industry in terms of cameras and everything cool there, and you can see it there, like somewhere around

here they tried to re-shoot, what kind of jokes are there personally of the actors who didn’t add you. it 's just that it all looks very somehow native, so the soviet cinema, probably, does not like it cool there annual on new year's eve. what's there? well, in short, well, moscow does not believe in tears, too, incredible pictures are alive , simply healthy, although for even us children. this is also native, because there it's just nice to look at. and you also you inspire with what our parents once watched in their youth. it's also cool. it's as if they are on a par with them come on and i'm a template for moscow, what's there, who are you from the heroes? most of all, this movie. it seems to me that he is very kind, like saying songs like this, and i’m walking, walking heartily, looking, and i can pass now very much . here are the family ones. here, i don't know. what was winnie the pooh there? cheburashka

is an animation? yes, but i mean movies. i i don’t know the baba yaga koschei there, what are the fairy tales? well, plus fairy tales, of course, joke with cartoons. it turns out cartoons. no, not always cartoons. for example, in my past i was visiting a fairy tale. i watched alexander rowe's tales and, uh, didn't see them. well, there morozko, for example, is 12 months old. we had such cinematography. i remember that they have the diamond arm. and i’m telling you, in moscow i didn’t look at these at all, i’m walking around moscow and that’s it, to be honest, that’s why i can’t support the matter in the plan. i didn't look you will definitely like it, because it really matters in the cinema. kat is very cool. it matters now. this is already stomatic knowledge, that is, music is 50% of the success of the film. uh, guarantees good ones. hmm of course, the truth and memorability have also written soundtracks now too. i really like to do this when they turn to write

some music for a series or films. well, that's all about it, then i also wanted to ask about it. yes, it's okay, after all, but how are you here? well, you're ahead of the curve and thank god uh, tell me how you see the future our country. here. eh, what do you have, what do you see in your head? this is a serious question. but i think people are waiting for an answer to it. i believe that if children engage in creativity and self-development and tell their parents that they want to love everything around and together, they will support them in this. i believe that our generation will be just fine in 30 years, exactly the best that we can do. yes? for all of us, it is to become happy ourselves. and it already defines. no, you understand? i am really i need to drama, probably not to join, but i will join, because i myself have an eleven-year-old son, for example, a fantastic one, who is already playing on the territory and i just understand that if you give