the result of our today's meeting for you , it seems to me, is an opportunity to think about reviewing many, many episodes of your life. just on the other hand, and in this, of course, the richness of the diversity of life is life. we alone need to live it in such a way that it is interesting for you, useful and not painful. and, of course, still love, please, your loved ones, allow yourself to love them and accept mine there. here is a worldly wish, yes, and now scientific wishes - this is life you don’t have to live. so that, as she said, natalya can live like that. just if it doesn't work, that's not a problem either. uh-huh yes . and the last, probably, my message that i wanted to give you for our meeting for our program is your phrase to do. i can't do anything here. uh huh, uh huh. this is the phrase that most likely hurts you. yes, yes, simply, because you think that you should do something, i absolutely think so, and this is not also wrong, you are not obliged to influence this

situation. you may be able to change something to some extent, or maybe not, a revolution of consciousness. simply, that is, i don't i must even possibly worry about this and try to fix something, yes, and i’ll tell you, as an excellent student, it’s absolutely not necessary to be an excellent student in order to be happy. yes, i do it over time. i just understood. thank you this was a hint where i am a journalist natalya loseva and a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, discussed the situation of a mother with many children, evgeny, who cannot establish relations with her dad and his new wife, this happens. take care of your psyche.

hello, i'm larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast letter e, today we will talk with leonid yarmolnik about the people's artist, alexander abdulov, who turned 70 on may 29. laziness despite what we call a podcast of letters. and today we will somehow manage without these very letters and without e sasha's book, because there is something to talk about anyway. we met about a week ago, and you told me so bitterly, and in my company, except for me, no one left. oleg left, sasha and i alone. but here i am, for example, i remember your trinity always stood out from everyone. at film festivals, for example, well, you somehow generally lived and existed absolutely separately, there was a feeling that you were really rich and famous, you were beautiful. you were somehow

very fashionable, at the same time relaxed, natural, but inaccessible, as in this trinity, in this oleg ivanchenkovskiy and sasha, how it all combined. it was combined new. basically. it depended on sasha because not a day without a line. if we have already arrived. we are a great gift. this means a good festival. or is it some kind of good meeting. we were always the main, but the main it's always sasha's business for us if everyone goes to a restaurant, then we went to the best restaurants. and it did not depend at all on how much money we had in our pocket, because this issue was resolved. then, for example, the commission of a fact, and i think that there are still living witnesses, despite the fact that many years have passed. we have always back then there was an old wto restaurant on tverskaya, on the corner of na cannon. yes, you know everything, so sasha and i went there, almost every day. uh, if it's not a performance, then it's early, if after the performance, it's after.

performance, the restaurant closed at about 12:00 at night, and we went there, regardless of whether we have money or not, and there were cases when sasha and i went to creative meetings, as you know, to earn money around the country. so we were returning and when we landed in moscow, the first place we went to, we went to the wto restaurant to give about 150-200 rubles. for those times. this is gigantic money. this is gigantic money, and we could not pay for a month, and sasha was so loved and treated with sympathy. well sasha already was a superstar. and i'm like, in short, don quixote and sancho really. you do not forget that you forget that sasha was a handsome woman, i was a characteristic artist. how are you real? just loved, well, who loves such such. yes, you don’t need different ones, they loved another thing, what did you answer me? certainly. oh well, i don't even know, i went to

your podcast program. uh, and i understand that you and i can talk about everything that can be talked about, but sasha's birthday is like a reminder of what was the best in of our life you can’t talk outside of friends in not your company above with the institutes were familiar with him, studied at different courses, but lived in a hostel at the same time and your friendship began just then. well, i can tell you that whenever one of, uh, dear colleagues is not there, they have a lot of close friends the very next day. so it was the first with a high all i generally fell silent uh, everything. could there have been thousands as well, and when sasha left, so many friends immediately appeared that i had never seen and did not know, although i sasha, well, in short, it turned out that the longest

of all abdulovs suddenly understand something, but in fact, when they thought with close friends, really. i knew sasha for the longest time before everyone else in 1972. he was in his second year, he was hetero, and i was in the first year of shchukin after we went to trifonov and 45 b and such a friendship began that had nothing to do with creativity. here we loved a beautiful life. i had a tape recorder in my room. i have already lived for six sasha on another floor, and basically there were two classes. or sasha met a new girl and came to me for a tape recorder, not even to my classmate sashkin. and then the whole process took place, but to the music. uh, jesus christ - superstatus skryce. sasha and i created. god knows that he has always been the initiator. sasha, i remember how, uh, the chechen studio fought with the kabardian one, uh, and

you know why, because for some reason sasha decided that at 2:00 am, and on the trifonovka these corridors were 70 meters, here in the corridors and doors. yes, yes, and uh, sasha for some reason took and bought skittles in detsky mir, but the skittles were absolutely plastic, you know, so noisy hard, and we put the skittles by one window at the end of the corridor. and ourselves it's at 2:00 at night, and we played. in the kegg. you have no idea what the coffin was like. this is thunder. and that means, uh, they went, in my opinion, a chechen studio, and not in gitis, in my opinion, they studied. stalin to run into us. so sasha tried to sort things out with them. they were already on the brink of taking. uh, weapons and so on and so forth. and then it came out. uh, the studio of the kabardian shchukin school, which i was adored and in general, uh, we continued to play for another 2 hours. and they had negotiations. yes, wall to wall. as for money. do you know what kind of money

we had when we were students? we are basically the whole hostel and gitisovites and shchukins, and we lily bottles of champagne scratched this foil, and nearby. we had a collection point for glass containers. and sasha and i with four suitcases. went handed over there we already knew we did not stand in line. we were taken separately, we received, as a rule, there 8-10 rubles. there was a lot of money for this. naturally in the evening. uh, there was a holiday 8 years beautiful to live. it's innate, it's not exactly acquired. i mean, you were already like that. well, i think i do too like others did not know, never generous beautiful. uh, hospitable broads. here you were straight stars. now i’m shooting with young people, and they all live very well , no one smokes, no one drinks, and everyone comes with their jars, closes in their actors. eh, and that's it, that's probably good. in connection with this, i want

to tell you, because sasha, uh, nature gave such face and such a figure, and i have a feeling that he was killing his beauty. so he did everything to ensure that this beauty quickly disappeared from him. i can say no, because sasha has always been beautiful in recent days. and when he first started the lists did not include the first performance. this was back in the time of his friend. yes, physical beauty, i say, he is you. eh, if she speaks tough, sasha, of course, incredibly, talentedly destroys herself. because she had no concept of 24 hours in court a day. it was 48 hours and all these 48 hours. he was on his feet and he had enough time and energy for everything, he could act all day in the evening to play a play, and then until 5:00 in the morning we could , uh, receive some guests to sashka. went between the royal

performances for 3 1/2 days there from the society of book lovers and social studies. yes, it was more profitable from these organizations, and we had 31 performances in 3.5 days. none of our colleagues understands how physical it is. perhaps it. we just worked it's called a shuttle. that is, it started in 7:00 am ended. it's at 12:00 at night. sasha i started at one point, and i started at another point at 7:00 in the morning, then we went. fragment, uh, sasha showed my fragment, and i represent sasha presented his fragment during these 10 minutes, and the car was transported and after the fragment, sasha already left and i went out to another site and 30 e one performance. and it so happened that at the same time andrei mironov derzhavin and shirvindt were sitting there for a week and

flying. back we are on the same plane with the same ones with the same task, then they, too, they also have they also had creative meetings. and when we were already flying back, there was already such a plane that began to fly, and at eighty-six and sasha had already arrived, he was already registered on the ladders. all closed remained, only the first ladder is the commander. and sasha abdulov do you know why they don't fly away? because you were delayed. i was still on stage at that time. so you know me directly, how the detective brought me up , the grass closed and through after takeoff , andryusha mironov comes to us from the business class in 5 minutes. i ask. well, how are you? what? well, sasha's speech was saying, so what, how many did you have thirty-one? and how many of you are saying here, the dialogue ended for 3 days. here and uh, andrey left in 5 minutes comes to the neck. lyonka it's true, i say,

of course, well, okay, and shurik says that you somehow apologize and explain everything. show everything i say that show it says, well, show the money. and we open two types, backpack. so here we are, between the legs we open. so here it is, and there are dozens of quarters, two bags of money, then, uh. now you can talk about it tell. we always know about it. well, i don’t know such details . sasha had a wonderful quality. and when we went somewhere, the company always grew, that is, we went together to a restaurant, but it turned out that we were already sitting at the table with us 15 people. sasha never let anyone get a wallet, never in my life, you can’t say sasha understood that he was so omnivorous and accessible to everyone. uh, your status, who is he and i don’t think that if someone saw that a company had gathered and there were two

people of the yarmolnik abdulov, they easily could come to your table. everything depended. uh, it depended, that's the moment when someone wants to join us after seeing, uh, relatively speaking abdulov then, it depended on how many glasses. maybe they drank with sasha, if we drank three or four glasses, then he was ready to make friends with a person. but, if this person was not worth it for sasha to communicate with him, then after 15 minutes he was sent this person. i just got scared. what does he have to open? you must not see yourself. what resource to use on the other hand, what do you have interested in information on the development of weapons of mass destruction and nuclear programs, but if he confirms that iraqi purchased in nigeria if he did, we would

immediately lose international assistance. sasha was very picky, but he was very communicative and lively, and he never was. in that bad sense, a star, which is what it is where are you yes, yes, he always was, he knew the price, but he never in this sense was unique in general more than anyone mark, that is , zakharov adored sasha sasha was like a talisman theater, despite the fact that in this theater there was an incredible number of stars of such a first magnitude, ilions. and the pelzers of jankov's harnesses, and all the wonderful things all this is a link, but sasha was his favorite. he was like

a son and those performances where there was a role for sasha. and this theater was doomed to success. tell about mikhailovna who is who or a hmm do you want me to tell a secret? yes, the fact is that from the fact that they were friends for many years, adored each other, not only with sasha. was, firstly, he is my godfather sasha my daughter and uh, when there were tests for a munhouse, but he still cared about my creative biography. it was 78 years old. and there were samples for this role of theophilus. i then many years later. i found out what it turns out to be. i was not the only candidate for the role of theophile. here, and the fact that i played theophilus. this is not only because mark anatolyevich decided that the theophilus should be with such a face, such an abnormal one. and i think mostly. it was sasha abdulov who convinced mark anatolyevich zakharova that

a theophile in our country can only play her, if the tip has a small introduction? the first time i saw you on the screen in the film detective of this love for a second and i, but i didn’t remember anyone but you when you got on our motorcycle. and it was written on your face that you are a very talented person. you were beautiful. and you are very talented. look, listen to you herman filmed. well, uh , in his greatest film ever. what do i want, i would today what are we talking about today? yes, others are not possible. wait wait, if you were near, wait yes, 70 years will be in nine months. i've been younger all my life. i hope about me. now, if i had everything in connection with sasha, it’s hard for me to imagine. and if sasha was friends with unlucky and not talented people, you understand, yankovsky and you had nothing to share, so you had

a full-fledged friendship, even if someone was at work, but could put in a word about some, then this was not there either. so you know m-m margana. well, well, just invite me to do it for you, that is , even here you are from what sasha recommended. it was a huge plus for myself and joy. well, of course, when we filmed the notehausen, and we went to germany, uh, back then the gdr but since there were tiny beings then, of course, nothing there, i don't even remember anymore. now how much, well, some pennies we received. and quick-witted vova vodolinsky. he said that we will get out of the situation. in short, we brought, uh, a huge jar, uh, of black caviar. here, and he was sure that we are in the hotel where we will live, we will give it to the owner. he will give these marks of the bundesmark there, and we will have a lot. we threw it all away. no, nothing happened like that. so we

choked on this caviar for 2 weeks, because no one bought us. and we have never eaten so much caviar in our lives, and were terribly amazed, and both mikhailovna churikova and oleg said, where did they get it, where did they buy it here. and how much does it cost here and so on. well, i also often tell in order to, well, some things, probably the audience. sasha was still scary. sweet tooth is the secret. it's incredible. he could eat. that's how much sweet will be calmly if i always tell, yes and uh, he could eat, for example, we by skipping the line in cooking in prague, it was very much the same. this is cake prague and bird's milk. yes, we are always there without a queue, like everything is relatives, after 5 minutes we were already leaving with cakes. here they came to the rusakovka. here they came, they put it on the table, and i went. sorry, but to the toilet. when i returned from the toilet after 2 minutes from bird's milk, there was one piece of

the big cake and sasha said, i would like you to try it too, so he giggles, and at the same time once. he fell ill, er temperature and i came to him in the morning. he says, i say, san can, some kind of medicine, says medicine. i would, and i i say, what do you want? he says, i so want condensed milk, he adored condensed milk. i say it's not a question. and i already had a zhiguli . i went to one store, the second third was not condensed milk, the shortage was terrible. so at some point i realized i went to the crack table. i bought him condensed milk. only not in such a jar, but one that delivers to the dining room is a three-kilogram jar. the same only hefty, you understand? yes, i bring happy. it was sasha, it was about 12:00 in the afternoon. and we are always this condensed milk. here he said that young arti sty are watching everything, it can be, it seems, and he took everything correctly. and if we didn’t have time to eat, and

everything was bought, everything was a can of condensed milk, two holes, and all three became fat. when you saved yourself at 12:00, you brought this bank next time. i came to him. i would go to work to shoot and come to him at 7:00 pm. how much do you think there was in the jar of condensed milk? imagine, but everything was everything was a barrel, the next day. he's already played the show. what happiness do you imagine a big child, of course, sasha was surprisingly still had friends. eh, well, god connected you. it's impossible otherwise. that's how to get together, because it's more than friendship you know how it began. i have already told this story somewhere. uh, when we were still students. and when he had free time, we not only unloaded the wagons. we were still working on it. no, they also

dug graves for a week at the cemetery, and we went. even if why do people always have money, this is still, well , five years ago, he says, yes, he says, he has been working all his life. he says lvovsky he is he says that he will never take a penny from anyone in his life. he says when it was necessary, but she didn’t say that, of course, yes, that he even says he worked. cemetery, well, it's due to the fact that the actors are not all such felderers, you know, in the cemetery, but not so much because of the money. how much was it? e, some kind of acting interest, in general, what happens in the cemetery, how does farewell to serious people happen in general, and i worked a week for a week, i dug despite the fact that i did it very badly, and there was just a foreman. uh, of us, of our actors, kiselyov was like that and he took me. he knew that i was interested in watching all this, i dug, then i came, i dug, and this was all the navagankovo ​​cemetery. and if you know, the vagankovskaya cemetery, almost everything is on

the sand. and when i came i reported that the grave was ready, and professionals were going there. in the meantime, i came and reported. all uh, the sand has collapsed and again there is no horror. no. the thing is, uh, when we had free time, we got through the fence. asfin and ran around the production of the hull, probably where the film crews were sitting directors assistants, and we were banging here. we knocked, the door opened and cheerful such young talented artists are not needed, boys. close the door fools. what yes, and we did it, about every week, and when it got to the point, we already had you, we don't need you. but it was so cool, and so funny, and then we kind of hid it, and over the years we have been proud of a century. this is a podcast of a letter we are talking about alexander abdulov,

who would have turned 70 on may 29, i have wonderful guests leonid yarmolnik tell me, please, when did the casino appear in your life? sashka was generally a very gambling person. he loved to play poker. uh, and when did casinos come into existence. it was as if it was almost grief, because he could get some rather significant fee to go and lose it in a casino, and he changed in character, his mood changed. casino on one side. i loved it very much, on the other hand i was afraid, because he was very angry. and i didn’t always go to the casino with him. i'm not that kind of player. i can in the casino too play a little play some number of people to calm down. sasha never calmed down and there were times when he lost. he still left somewhere to borrow money and returned there were cases when he and you. is it true, and what, when he filmed the bremen town musicians in egypt and there was nothing

to pay uh actors? well, in general, the group he went to play in the casino, won and, uh, money from the casino yes, members. yes, there were indeed some difficulties. i was there and we are with him. no, it's beautiful. a legend that i support because it doesn't matter. sasha won in a casino, or got money, but he found the money that was needed in order for him to be both a director and a producer in general , the organizer of everything. fate had already begun to test sash, and directly the most dear to youth he walked along this very line of life and death , and this could have happened to him much earlier. here. tell stories that sound unbelievable, but it happened, but about the plane, when it could crash, then irina's fan yes, it's horror. uh, of course, i found out about it the very next day, but from sasha, yes. what about

plane? it was terrible, because there was an hour when, for example, i thought that sasha was in a plane crash, and he was sitting there. it was bad, as the weather can be and two tu-134s. well, in st. petersburg, one is the same as the other, and that’s all, and the girls who adored sasha, he was already sitting already sleeping. he's usually on the plane. he also turned off. so he sits alone, and everyone is not taken to the landing, because it turns out, uh, a delay. she and i told him that, uh, support is minor minuses, and he flew to him, like at 10 he already had to enter the frame. and here i am about the fact that these 15 minutes decided, it's not that there was no delay anyway, sashkin is some kind of star, because one of those planes on which he could fly really suffered. and what a disaster. but when the plane crashed, i

told you about it, that i knew that he was flying to st. petersburg . yes. i flew to the shooting and how, as some hour was the most terrible in my life, you know, over the years i realized that for uh, you can talk about sasha for a long time about what a wonderful , unique, inimitable beloved he is, but in order to understand, thank god not very much lots and lots of wonderful pictures. to be honest, i think that the best sasha's paintings, this painting by mark zakharov, is kill the dragon. it `s naturally. ordinary miracle. this is the same munchausen, look, for which women fell in love with sasha, i see. well, he was for which i could never understand this. why is he in him not in me? but yes, look. well, he's handsome. well sasha was loved. i have a feeling that he was loved by all this disgustingly vile yellow press that

hounded him and sasha. it reacted, but they your bad one. such bread was earned so much, tell me, but he was above it or loaded. so he was over it and since you touched on the topic, the fact is that sasha and i still got into fights very often, because he didn’t like it when e interferes with his personal life and it was a couple of sasha’s birthdays. i even now remembered one of them was in a cd or he asked not to let anyone in, then there were no iphones and, uh, various journalists, photojournalists. all the same , they tracked and took pictures, and we went out and they began to take pictures on the street. yes, yes, and sasha i snatched this camera from someone and smashed it on the asphalt. uh, it was like that. well, maybe a 3- minute fight, in which i also participated, of course, then there were statements. we were called to

the police opened a case, but we naturally case. won do you know why? because the investigators all adored sasha, sympathized with me and understood that we were right. and it was still such a period when hmm he was not sick yet. no , it's not, uh, not sick yet. sasha, on the other hand, all this happened very quickly, almost at lightning speed , that's the moment when it became clear that he fell ill, but do you remember when on the set of garin in astrakhan and there he had a stomach problem, thank god everything ended well for him? they brought it to moscow later . it turned out that it was, but in a completely different zone. i'm there ecology, and then everything is instantaneous. i almost went to him. if not every other day, and i remember that he was in rubles, but yuru buziashvili was in bed, and i arrived, uh, on the thirty-first or

thirtieth of december. and in the yard he put a victory, but i have a victory because, but sasha did not see her. and i drove him into the yard rose to him. he saw the victory, and, of course, he couldn’t leave the hospital either, and he still went to his mother’s dacha. e to his family to his brother, and after a day and a half he was gone . what is happening to him, i always had a feeling when i saw him, i had a feeling of confidence, even he was so optimistic and believed so much in this fight and that he would win, and somehow we all believed. this is again a unique quality in an actor . you can't tell the truth. well, maybe because of the heightened emotionality and uh, well, i'll tell you i must say that i spoke. i remember how the adored brilliant actor yevgeny alexandrovich evstigneev died because he had an operation.

it was not very difficult, not unique, but, and he had an operation in london, and he knew and he was gone only because he said that there was a chance you would not wake up. yes, you can’t, you have to lie to the last. maybe, maybe, but in russia, as far as i know, to this day, it’s like a medical one. no they didn’t say it before, but now they do it somehow in europe in america i think you need to be honest no. please tell me, well, i know everything about women myself. as dirt did not stick to him , there would never be among women, well, how would you get lucky with him, right? well, you're lucky, you know? you know why they say the dirt did not stick, he moved through

life at such a speed that she did not have time, sticking she flew off, you know that once again we started talking. uh, sasha in general, personal life and family life developed differently. we all know this. i'm not in the way that i want about it to say, but, but there is ksyushka, his daughter, whom he raised a wonderful e, and his and zhenechka, that's how much sashka was. uh, zhenechka was, in my opinion, either nine months old when sasha died, that is, he was the happiest person. it was something absolutely his copy. laziness, yes, yes, absolutely just a copy of it. well, you can imagine, yes, and there was already i don’t know, i always have, of course, some. i hope they understand me correctly. spectators, i always have some claims to god. you understand, he somehow chooses those who may have to live the longest in order to teach us the joy

of life and faith uh in happy tomorrows i can't imagine uh. well, now, i can’t imagine sasha being eighty years old, but that would be just some kind of slander. you know, when, uh, well, now i don’t like it, but , unfortunately, we started with the fact that all friends are all former mistresses and he loved only them and that’s all. or they come and talk about it with pleasure. well, we know the truth, yes, whom he loved, no one talks about him with annoyance even hmm alferova yes, his adored wife. she smiles all the time. here , with some kind of warmth from some kind of any, he was released. let's put it this way, despite the garden , the behavior in life of this one also works. the desire to do everything, but he does not care. eh , how the relationship didn’t work out, i mean,

now, personally, it won’t be anymore, anyway, everyone loved him, they couldn’t forgive him much, but they still loved him. and uh, but it was that no time was left with her. it belonged to work friends. this is uh, i'm not saying this now for having you justify. it really was so and knew what and what? you knew that you didn't know anything. uh. he fell in love with irka after walking helped and won her. and i am a witness to all this, they were wonderful happy beautiful. it was the most beautiful married couple in the country. yes, yes, julia is wonderful, who, uh, took care of him until the last day, and we are all close friends, we are infinitely grateful , she is incredible in this sense, and i want to say that when i was going to, uh, visit you today. and yulia a year after

when sasha left, she sorted everything out there at home. in short, she gave me sasha's watch. today i even wear a sashkin strap in this watch. so i always put on this watch in the month of may. although i have others and i began to think more often about, we are always we are all atheists no but i mean from how uh i still have over the years. i think we don't see them, but they see us. here, i think it's different. and if somehow differently, then there is a chance. be a bad person. and if you believe in it, then you need to be normal good, remember some kind of gift. well , i gave this watch to you, because it gave you something that you still keep, for example, or you

were surprised. so how is this story with condensed milk? here's what surprised you. so you will remember until the last, uh, second of your life, our life. sasha here can be 36 years old and every day of communication with him or life with him. it has always been a surprise. it was every day, this is the case when i can’t isolate something like that. he so wanted me at the first among. our company have been zhiguli that is, my zhiguli were 76 years old. i just ended up in the richest. we so we knew, this is the richest. listen, you had television, then in the nineties. you hosted such shows on television as the most trump ones, and we understood. what it is? it's just that when i saw you in the best hotels in the best restaurants, they took me from a man, and it was you who walked, you understand? so yes, so what? sorry, i had a zhiguli and sasha