there are some very sad stories too. and these are just those stories where children encounter the world of foreign adults, because the children of dragunsky live among these are good children with good adults, they have, uh, all these relationships, where they go to sadovaya, there is a big movement, where they go in principle, these questions are not raised, they are not relevant. is it possible to steal, paint, cheat? well, there is no such question, no, this is because it is impossible and should not be done. no put. yes, it turns out that you can’t do your own, see you can’t. this may be the nature of the time, yet nosov worked a little earlier , but at some point they intersected, because we lived with them very, by the way, in many respects even similar lives, one was related to the theater, the other was drawn, and both, there were two wives there, well, that is, there were a lot

of all sorts of intersections, another question is that nosov and he was gloomy in character, it really is, and dragunsky was very party-going and very, uh, cheerful and yes, he was always talked about how about such a person who polynomials and holidays yes man and holidays. it seems to me that this should also be somehow felt, of course, now they noticed that nosov was somewhat gloomy. it's just the same in every gloomy these honestly. i hear you with great surprise, i remembered one proof so sweet, of course, but i can still say, but one of my favorite writes or dmitry is bitter. unfortunately, he died early in april of the tenth year. i clearly remember that day when i read that the number, well, he died very early, very large could be even more written in a short uniform, worked small. he was very charismatic and in the film he is again one of the phrases that is spinning in my head. constantly and

such a distilled melancholy, that you can’t think of anything better at all. here he loved this melancholy. here he is not in every tail, here, but he was very fond of nosov and he described that he constantly traveled on trains. between he lived in a village in the moscow region traveled to st. petersburg well on business for work. there you are talking about documents back and forth, the train is this, well, and in the search for a book. he constantly describes the safe. sat in the coupe you put up a can of beer laid out not i know where on the moon, and everyone looks like children's literature. an interesting adult put it out, i don’t know how it is, an adult, gloomy, uncle, bearded, unshaven, scary, as he reads. well, i 'll translate a little now, he reads such garbage and laughs. and i just need to make people smile more writes. it is very characteristic that the gloomy loved this gloomy nose, here, please, a friend to me about the world of these strangers. adults we somehow encounter. yes, with

this alien world in these stories. what it manifests itself, this is basically conditionally possible to divide the stories of dragunsky there into three parts, there were a lot of them for 10 years. i wrote even more. and now, probably, uh, this is the exit to other people's adults. this is more of the last part. where actually. here are these beautiful children from the world. good children. yes, they meet conditional adults. it doesn't have to be adults. there, in sadovaya's story, there is a big movement, and they meet with a full guy with a teenager. well, from another world. where we tattooed obviously sat begins to tell my grandmother is dying of double appendicitis. yes yes. children suspect that something there began with the fact that the children received a long-awaited bicycle. and so, uh, whether you're enjoying it or not. yes, and that is, it was just happiness, and, well , if this teenager is short, he does not lure this fifth leave on him. and they are discussing.

that's what could have happened to him there, maybe something else had hit him with a car, that is, for these children. they are waiting for him to return, they are waiting and they will stay like that until someone tells them that there is nothing more to wait. yes, and these are the sad stories of dragoonsky, they also have such. just lyrical stories. well , there is, for example, such a story eh 20 years under the bed, where the boy eh plays hide and seek and adult women accidentally lock him in the room. he sits under the bed and is afraid to get out and imagines what will happen if he stays there forever, if she and he are embarrassed to get out, because she already took off some part of her clothes there, that is, he understands that the further, so much the worse and now she is she lay down already in your life these are adults. dragunsky's stories are all adult. they are just shown through children's shoe optics, but they really can be. for adults, it’s quite

meaningful there, it’s not an event, yes , they unfold, but from some of the sensations. he unfolds the whole story. yes, this fear that he will remain sitting there, then, of course, saves him. there, daddy, adults are starting to look for him. and here is the case when, as you say, nosov is saved by an adult. by the way, here we were talking about the police yes in uh about police in nosov's stories there is also a story where the boy is. on the contrary, he is terribly afraid of a policeman so good that he even stopped liking him so that the child could help him, they talked a lot of stories and nose about this super thin policeman who understands that the child was afraid, but he does. so he helped him, but the child was not afraid after all. that is, here are some adults too, well, who are you to the police, who is the representative of the authorities, that is, accordingly , the child gets the feeling that he is protected all the authorities about him are for well, by the way

, i don’t even remember the rules of bad adults and nosov, but in dragunsky there are bad adults and their strangers. yes, the families are definitely good adults from the school. this is a wonderful teacher of music, which he listens to. that's all i like, what i don't like. denis is loved there several times. uh, horses with kind faces. yes, something cute is there. magical which means he has a friend a bear who loves something you love. i understand it changes all the food he loves and in the end when maybe something else you like. that's besides the food. well, kittens, he says, well, that is, here is the grandmother, but immediately the character gave two times two characters. but mishka, as far as i know, is real, and deniska's friend yes, a real-life boy. it is clear that and viktor dragunsky was watching them, well, it is clear that all this is invented, guys. yes, one of the dragoons often complains that you ask all the time. he became a writer, yes, ksenia

dragunskaya oblast became writers, whom he already remembered, apparently you had him in mind, he wrote a few comments. yes how to say denis victor dragunsky here. yes , several books, well, one definitely seems to be more than one book of commentaries, so where did he explain, how it really happened, well, relatively speaking, as he remembers. this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya, nabatnikova director writer, visiting me. e, children's writer sophia remes and writer ivan shepnigov. we are talking about children's literature, which is interesting for adults, namely about nikolai nosov and viktor dragunsky vanya , please, tell me, be a children's writer soviet times - it meant making very good money, and nosov and dragunsky, in general, they became popular precisely thanks to literature, although they were engaged in cinema and theater in some other activity, but you

can say that this stimulated their creativity such profitability of this children's literature, the breadth of this occupation, or it does not matter at all, in the case of a children's writer. there is just a certain creative way of perceiving the world. well, everything else was profitability. this is not the case in which we are now talking in that sense no well, it was some, in fact, a very large state grant. i don't even know what they are or a lot of copies, well they were paid the market price. no, they were government sponsored. i don't think it inspired them in any way. i think they would have written and without it they would simply not have published them, and we would have opened them there through, well, the state gave writers. country house. they could afford certain in life with gogol took from nikolai these were taken from the soviet state. yes, we do not take from anyone, thank god this is freedom. yes, this is freedom, poverty, yes and the unknown. this is good. oh well, in

the unknown, i would argue, of course, i don't think it inspired her. well, no, no, but we can say that they are relevant. today , today we can read them both with the nose and the dragoon field with that and with the nose. we can moreover, it seems to me, not so much has appeared, but realistic stories are funny, but inventive about children. eh, now there is a lot of cool modern literature for children and teenagers, but there is still a little humorous among it, but something as funny as dragunsky still does not written. and it's embarrassing. but you are not so funny to me, it turns out funny. i like to write human envy when i read a story, let's say, if i were an adult, and here i am driving in a car with a child, we are. we turn on this story, but it has changed and i laugh at

the audio version. yes, this is a marshak check. yes, and a child is interested in an adult with good taste. yes, it's very funny and really cool or nosov fedin's story is a problem and the boy is trying to uh, have a funny nose. he listens. he listens to the radio trying to do lessons. he can't do anything else because he can't concentrate. it really is. funny. it is expensive. yes, he's got so many bags. that is, it is lined up . invented said that this is funny. we joked laugh. well, it's not charming. well, not cute in and of itself. as it is more convenient to say mechanistic filmmakers, therefore yes nosov is from there, of course. well, it looks like different things. we have you really have armatures. eh, very stories that a. looks like what could have been

by script, let's say live hat is actually a finished cartoon script, so it's interesting, it's not interesting to you. he has a lot of screen adaptations with us and both oil screen adaptations, and, uh, from my point of view, i don’t want to offend anyone, but the dragoon’s inability to make successful screen adaptations is that they are more difficult to bring them more difficult. there is a lot to do with language. there are a lot of language constructions that are funny exactly as long as they are written, and on paper, when you see it, well, these remarks are somehow transferred. eh, on they do dramaturgy, and that is, some events take place, it ceases to be funny. there are stories in which, of course , they are dramatic and very funny, but more of it is in the language. yes, if good literature is literally translated onto the screen, this is not usually the case. yes, it doesn't work. it's basically a screencap. this is a very complex story. i didn't understand that. how to do it? i

never learned how to do it. uh, script to my own uh stories. yes, it's very difficult. vanya is cool that both the nose and the dragoon work very. uh, it's just that they have very simple dialogues , you can't, where are the producers? this is just the most difficult thing in general, in principle, in life it is difficult to write difficult to make simple, but simple is difficult to do. the simpler, the more difficult, they are incredibly cool, of course, yes, and this is not repeatable. well, that is, these are dialogues and levels. i don't know, but then again , we constantly remember the movie levels, again , i don't know, well, it's so strange. well, no, i will not say if well, no, well, tarantina, well, tarantino well, that is, you compare noses with side, but this is the level where it seems to you that it is very simple. and you try to give it is impossible to repeat, the dialogue of these boys. it seems very simple, well, that's

why it's impossible to repeat, that's why i'm answering the question. yes, anosov and dragunsky, in their simplicity, they knew how to make very complex ones. yes, there is no feeling that the literary editor was specially tinkering with this text. yes, there are dialogues for the draconian. where he said, mishka said, lyonka, said 10 times repeated said, and it does not seem. eh, one works. yes it great. for some reason, this sense of language is natural, for some reason it is believed that we speak one language, but we must write in a completely different one, and they do not intersect in any way. actually, maybe, well, like the dragoons broke through. this is the fourth degree. well, yes, this is another and steepness, because the only language of the existing physical reality. this is the oral one that produces our speech apparatus. here are the masses of these badges on carriers. what we call written language, it has little to do with it, it's a very, very big contract, in which inevitably a huge number of errors

of all sorts of different is a big convention, but therefore a strange situation, when well, it always seemed strange to me, and it has always been that here we are talking so badly. she writes it so well. well, that is, we discard the basis and take the convention and make it again to the question of falsehood or death. you understand what i mean, yes, that an artificial contract is recognized as more real than a real one , as it were, well, the essence of the matter, yes, and nosov no argunsky is still cool in that they realized that, well, not you have to be a literary editor, that is , you have to remove the e, you just have to invent it, you just have to take it from life, and here the next complexity cannot be literally transferred to the oral carrier in the form of a sign. yes, on the letters the sounds are transmitted to do , you need to create and meditate on what it is like . conversational and this is simply the most difficult level. yes, the highest so yes guys. thank you very much for an interesting conversation. this was

a must-read podcast. i am a film director and writer. my guests were the writers sophia rails and the writer ivan shepnigov. we discussed nasal dragoon classics of children's literature. hello friends, with you, the podcast of the melodies of my life, i am its host valery syutkin, and i feel a monstrous injustice, because there is a wonderful musician. he is actually responsible for all major projects ; the musical part is saved for viewers on channel one. personally, i went through three seasons of the voice program with him. but he participates and the voice of the children and not only participates, but uh

allows all the contestants to be a mentor. uh, perform all the songs and only thanks to him qualifications. it sounds i'm not afraid of a sincere word, highly artistic. visiting today. wonderful musician, composer, arranger sergei lived. hi valera, this is the first time i hear such a set of words from you. thank you so much i am very glad. it was already worth coming, i will immediately answer that we are working in tandem. we have everything man behind the scenes. you know him very well, this is andrey pasternak and together with him we are making the final version of the sound. andrey - this is the most subtle. uh, sound specialist. i still remember the program the famous i am andrey, in fact, the first who learned. uh, live mass events sound like that, yes. you know, he is a brilliant musician, how he hears and most importantly, a quick

decision. that's how people instantly intelligent people remembered the real professionals. but today i wanted seryozha through melodies, because music is the best keeper of memory. and when we remember this or that melody, we learn about a person. e much more, therefore, the melody of childhood. we will start with her. here is the first one with the association sergey lived and childhood. it's an unexpected tune. here, i really liked it. and i'm shka, that's how i found out, i really liked the cartoon the bremen town musicians, remember? a minute is correctly carried to the ground.

i just want to say. and there is such a wonderful children's anecdote. do you remember when a 5-year-old child behaves normally, but does not speak anything, they invited doctors, they lost all hope, they thought that he was not mine from birth for the fifth year he was preparing an egg well, he breaks it with a spoon, he speaks so calmly in pure russian dissatisfied

to him that i say don’t give your egg to vasya why did you keep silent to yourself for 5 years. we, he says, there were no complaints, this is what i know very well. and not only me and the tv viewers all know perfectly well that you are a brilliant musician to hide such vocal skills. this crime is not vocals. well, what are you doing? this is a parody of oleg, i will anushev this song. where did this childhood take place? where were you born at home? well, in a sense, in one inter-question uh, uh, who were you in childhood answered as a child. by the way, when they ask me who would dream become in childhood in early? i honestly answer, it was an adult. i also wanted to say. i

was born in moscow. yes, we had a huge three-room apartment. uh, 38-meter apartments, after all. uh, she had a ph.d. in economics. she worked very hard. and as i now understand successfully, because and i did not need anything, uh, except for bike jeans, but these are such milestones denim jackets. yeah but uh, i had a breeze bike, but at 6 or 7 years old. i grew out of it and then until 13:00 to 14 there was no bike, then i then brought it. uh, bike. himself straight home borrowed money in friends. no longer with uh, older than the highway, older than the highway. yes, yes, with the speed of everything. and so they ask you where the bike comes from and i say in a day. you have to give. yes. and that's when mom went for it, which means she, uh, bought a bike. and so i didn't

need anything. i was always fed very well dressed in a school uniform. for me there were only jeans, only polish polish chickens, not a bird, no longer abroad. mom went there, went and brought me from there. i remember everything, and you are spinning me on memories to be honest. i ask here, if possible, the director's operator to run into. well, in the sense in the stone version on valery's eyes, so that the audience would listen. no, what deep honest ones you have, you understand, when you look into them, i want to tell you, everything is serious. yes tell me, please, papa met me. they sort of parted ways. but, then they got together and lived happily together for another 12 years, in my opinion, it's nice. here and here in this house. one of the few records i had was

just the bremen town musicians, which i listen to with pleasure. it's just all this series first sang. it's there, and here it is from the second part. no nicholas and no court, well done to the king taxes. he sang with many hair.

okay, ta-ta-ta you sing, i see the whole picture , everything is fine. got confused here. i'm trying to copy exactly as he said then, and this transition sergey zhilin is a boy, probably some kind of sport, like we all have in our yard, all kinds of games, i see. here's how you came to music, and i never left, my grandmother never put me in jail for 2.5 years. she planted me so well, and i'm just letting you down. that's what i call the melody of youth is the music that influenced the choice of profession or simply helped you understand that this is exactly what you enjoy doing. what was it? well, i'm an orphan at school now.

it’s like a work of romantic composers, of course, sergei vasilyevich rachmaninov and i don’t understand what i like there, but the fact is that it’s impossible for a shamantic composer to play music without such a very high emotional degree inside and the content is there when you are emotions, you play there is a little different, the story, you know, but here it must be. uh, an inner feeling. a very powerful emotional one that naturally spills out on the outside. this is what i liked. well, when i heard ryan it's me

about, and he was playing. this is at a concert with a pianist from the orchestra. and it was such a give, which, well, for a short while immediately began to look for notes, there are no notes, if there are they, just like this version, and now i played the parts, but here, in general, i, in short, increased it to sounded like his two. and so i worked on it, i took some of the most beloved rock stars in it and even made my own program at that time i was in the palace of pioneers, an interneer in

russian translation, artists to perform artists of the country - how is that? uh style. this is polka. it's a polka, just less snare melody that set sergei zhilin in the right direction and for a very long time we played traditional music. i had only traditionally, because i really liked it. it's still school years. this is the end of school and the beginning. these are already teenagers, or what? yes, when i had already entered the jazz studio, but there in the second year i organized. and whoever was a teacher, one teacher's stick for the head,

there were many there. and now, when you entered this studio, this is already some kind of concert work. there is another job there. it's just festivals. these ones were held, and two large festivals and two such medium ones, but they are held in the same hall. but tell me, as far as i know you, you still have a great combination, because it is separate, as galina borisovna volchek said when my daughter asked, here i dream of being a director. galim borison said about the girl. you're definitely not wrong. here you see the director, this is a person who comes up with something, says something, this is a person who ninety-five percent of the director is a person who knows how to make others do what he needs. if you don’t know how to do this, there will never be any director, if it doesn’t work out, maybe you will invent something, but you will need exactly the managers how many i know you have been there for a quarter of a century, you skillfully manage large hmm musical groups, they were immediately

large or at the beginning and you had to work under the wrong hands of the team this year, in general 40 years 40 years old. yes, and therefore, i hope that such a big concert will take place in the kvn club on november 18, october twenty-sixth. in the house of music, a big concert dedicated, by the way, to sergeevich of savoy, but how her sergeevich can be said in many respects is my teacher, and not arrangement in terms of composition. yes, this is a conditional friend. yes, in the early nineties so catch me somewhere in ostankino. yes, thank you. i say, why did you find black cat songs with uncle misha, do you continue to sing? i say sergeevich as long as there is strength to walk the earth and carry a guitar at each end, so that the author's tracks will work properly. the black black cat is like he said jokingly, my ninth symphony. well, he

would have turned 95 this year. and this is how we will do a big concert, and thus we will show, because i picked up, uh, his old score, he already has a magnificent symphonic jazz melody. and most importantly, that his orchestrations are still relevant to this day, that is, the man perfectly disposed of the orchestra. eh why? you still need to learn, many of ours, so to speak, as i call them a writer. here, and he is alexander nikolaevna. they themselves always wrote everything. no, they gave none. we in the picture they did everything ourselves and here are the old ones. they look great. the only thing is that we have a little rhythm there , somewhere in the 3rd section, something to work with it. everything else works great. this is one of the few people in general who really understood and created, uh, symphos, uh, on the side or pop symphonic brain? what is strange in the name itself or the orchestra, the name itself contains the answer and it is strange

symphonic in order to do this and realize it, and the person who does this must be familiar with music and the symphonic does not always work out that way. and we try we try to go further we see. hello again. you are watching a podcast of melodies of my life on channel one. my name is valery syutkin today, my guest is sergey sergeevich zhilin seryozh, we remembered ira sergeevich saulsky and me our viewers want. you know, i wish that all the misfortunes that happened to us, all the difficulties, forever remained in the past, and in the future there were fewer of them, and in the past they remain like the misfortune of a black cat twist of temporary peoples yuri saulsky mikhail tanovich around the corner.

by the way, you know, i'm proud that i sang this song with tamara minsarova. i went to her house myself, because konstantin lvovich asked us to perform together in the lights, and she already

categorically did not want to go on stage. it wasn't long before he left, but we were. more alive, by the way, yuri sergeevich yuri sergeevich at the piano, anality is not mine. but i say, i 'll sing like that right. it’s convenient, if only it were , and i’m very proud that i have a duet with mensarov, and a duet and heavenly too, and eduard anatolyevich khil criticized, valery says i didn’t like it. which one they performed, how they see off the steamers, there is no original melody in the arrangement. and this felix or others did for old songs, and most importantly, she was made there like alya santana. speak, we

are people of an artistic warehouse arrangement. this is not our part of the work, and there was such a page. i consider myself a very happy person, that once i sang with magomayev the best city of the earth, samara mensarova of a black cat and with eduard khil, as he sees off the steamer, and today sergei sergeevich zhilin is my guest and we, together with the viewers, enjoyed the vocal debut. although i can say that i have a duet with valery. we have a seryozha melody or two by sergei zhilin, what is it? this will go until what age? well it's for all ages fine, what is it? tell our viewers. together

ladies in evening dresses men in elegant suits it was a light emotional outburst, beloved, you played such a very mature melody. i, when i loved the melody, well, i don’t know, i was a boy anna herman sounded everything. i will hear all this later much in the middle. there was already such a second

half of the seventies in the middle of the eighties for 10 years, i periodically turn to musical anecdotes, a lot of jazz ones. and you know that people who are devoted they went through different times not very well funded, to say the least. and there is also such a position there bass trombone. that is, like an orchestra, it can do without it, so buster banists, as in e, roughly speaking, in symphony orchestras of viola performers. always the same, so to speak, less than the violinists enjoyed the love of the audience, let's say, or the love of specialists. in short, from the ba