i saw it because i needed it, because i could. yes, and the bombing of belgrade, according to many, it was no coincidence that it began precisely at the height of the scandal around the loving clinton, they became an excellent distraction for the american public. america has also done a second thing. from this period, from the moment of the bombing of yugoslavia, it began nato expansion to the east. at first, the united states lied, promising gorbachev not to do this. kohl , us foreign secretary james baker and others assured me that nato was not an inch advance. to the east. the americans did not fulfill this promise. mikhail gorbachev , the president of the ussr, then lied that such a promise had never existed at all. analysts say that promises were made and concessions should not be expanded. you understand, first of all, there was no such promise.

there is an idea that such a promise could have been made by the united states , this is also incorrect. if this were the case, it would be absurd and unacceptable. however , soon the german magazine spiegel in february 2022 spoke about a document found in the british national archives by the american political scientists joshua shifrinson. this is the minutes of the meeting of the representatives of the us department of foreign affairs, great britain, france and germany, held in the german city of beaune on march 6, 1991, just a couple of quotes from it , which are quoted in peak, we made it clear that we are not expanding nato, so we cannot offer more to the rest of the membership in nato , jurgen, political director of the german foreign ministry , we made it clear to the soviet union that nato should not expand to the east, neither formally nor informally raymond hares representative the united states later confirmed the same position and

the us secretary of state james baker , this statement of his was also found in the archives already. the unification of germany will not lead to the expansion of the military organization of nato to the east james baker us secretary of state in 19892. but in response to a legitimate question from journalists about another american lie , the press secretary of the state department netprice said it was a long time ago and now it doesn’t matter mr. baker made a mistake by giving this promise or the us government does not consider which broke it. at least it understands. why the russians reacted this way was a long-standing policy of the united states by previous administrations. this has been a long-standing nato policy in diplomatic parlance , an approach called double standards. and if, in a simple way, the ability to lie in the eyes at

any right moment and for any right reason. after the explosion due to the nord stream wire, the very first version expressed in the united states sounded like the russians did it. we know that russian ships were seen in the immediate vicinity of our leaks. a source familiar with the intelligence also said that russian submarines krest were seen there last week. this was put by an american journalist. seymour hersh, who proved the involvement of the us itself in this terrorist act, the reaction was predictable. this is an absolutely false story in which there is no truth, the united states is spinning and our proxies have nothing to do with it. and we remember even these funny stories, when the usa tried to imagine that some

a ukrainian yacht belonging to some oligarch not connected with the kiev regime organized this explosion, although the investigation of an american fursh journalist. not well, she showed how it all happened, that europe and, above all, germany, which was hit hardest by the explosions of the northern streams silently, allowed the americans to do all this during a joint press conference with the chancellor, he said directly, and then only a planned terrorist attack. no more from nord stream 2, we will put an end to this. ashot was silent in response and only watched the crisis of the european economy with the eyes of a little beaten dog. it is viewed as acceptable, collateral damage was decided to be sacrificed to the interests of europe. yes, because the issue of us dominance in the world is already at stake, and

this is certainly more important for washington than the interests of any europeans. in 1989, when america was preparing to attack iraq, its defense budget was 343 billion dollars in 1991, after the end of the gulf war, the figure decreased to 270 billion during the bombing of belgrade. everything has become again it sank well and again as soon as the hostilities ended, but still the biggest present in modern history for the us military-industrial complex was the events in ukraine . i, of course, colossal numbers in just one year. that's why for him the ukrainian conflict is manna from heaven, and therefore frank fascism, which is gaining

momentum in ukraine and about which our country has spoken more than once or twice, is called a lie and fiction. it seems to me, the phenomenon of the right sector. in general , the russian propaganda media have greatly exaggerated jeffrey , the poet, the us ambassador to ukraine in 2013-16, or about the next little girls who are now involved in ukrainian propaganda. definitely. they say this is such a struggle for democracy, marinochka, you will cut off the hand. what will you work? what will be the result, in order to answer this question, it’s enough just to try to remember, but at least somewhere in the world where the americans brought democracy of their type after that it became good on the wings of their own bombers. what did they pay the world

to each specific country to each specific family that was wrecked? nothing like they never pay anything to anyone, they only rob and take away everything, thus covering their interests and true often frankly mercantile plans. today we're talking to the eminent philosopher and political scientist alexander dugin, who recently wrote two articles, if you will, about the very essence of, uh, russia's struggle with a collective disease, about the geopolitical component of this struggle. and

if possible, so to speak metaphysical spiritual, and for the sake of which all this struggle is being conducted, in addition, of course, just to win is also important. when i looked at the categories that you describe, using the chess game as a base, you talk about three categories of whites, that is, russia in this case has three categories of scientists, and what struck me was that in your categories of whites. and one category is the category of those who, like the most radical of russia's opponents, strive for the complete defeat of the country to complete destruction of the country. explain what you mean and how serious it is. here in

this chessboard on both sides. how are you, uh? the three decision-making centers involved are quite right, if you like. if we talk about those decision-making centers that are on our side, they actually correspond, and one can say, to the three socio-ideological poles , one of these poles, which calls itself the radical opposition of which in nineties represented the ruling elite. that's what important, if they were marginal from the very beginning, then maybe there was nothing to talk about them, but they were mainstream in the nineties. they were the main ones in our country gradually. they retreated, retreated to the periphery, established their position for putin, and in the end, from them, on their basis, from these former our major political and economic figures from the kassians, when khodorkovsky was formed from the oligarchs opa

party of hatred for russia is a party of betrayal and it is important for our people that this is not just mishandled agents. these are the people who were in the nineties. in power, then they entered under various stages in opposition to putin and at the moment they started their own they turned out to be just, uh, complete opponents from our own country , liberals belong to them , supporters of navalny belong to them and this whole whole bloc of our society is quite rooted in the elites who are simply openly , but to the extent that he is allowed to open up. you give a very interesting explanation. uh, why are they taking this position, because after all, it's important for the cast to be so hostile to their own country. agree somewhat unusual but you give a very interesting explanation of what motivates them.

yes, they are motivated by a complete commitment to integration into the western world, that is, for them, the motherland according to us has shifted from russia, whatever it may be, no matter how we treat it, lover or criticize, but the motherland has shifted back for them. they have become so much a part of these global elites or have thought themselves a part of these liberal global ones. elite that for them fate. she's on the other side. and if the west, the collective west is with us, it is at war. they think of themselves as the fifth the column is the collective west, that is, they tore off their roots with the country and this is much deeper. than, for example, white emigration, white emigration at some point divided, especially after the start of hitler's attacks most of the terrible anti-communists. anti bolsheviks anti stolinist monarchists. they said, we will be with the soviet union, because it is our people. this is our land , this is our history, this is our power and only a few came to the side of hitler. here is a completely different picture, this is the fifth column, and

this is part of ours. those people one of them emigrated, and someone is here they don't make that choice. and when we confront the enemy and when the enemy put the very existence in russia into question. they are not divided into these two parts. of these , there is practically no example of this category, in contrast to the russian monarchists and russian white migrations, which in the majority, on the contrary, has taken a defensive position. that is, she took the side of the soviet union after hitler's attack among them, so such a split did not happen. how did they hate our country putin's sovereignty and continues to now wish to defeat their country. you mentioned white migration. and when hitler attacked the soviet union a large part of the white migration actually pushed them closer to the soviet union by the defense movement. yes, this is the majority. just

the majority of white immigrants. after even at the beginning of world war ii, but since the thirty -ninth year, and only after the attack on the soviet union, they went over to the side of the regime they did not like. and now this category is now this category, uh, which seeing how the collective west has united against russia, that patriotic feelings have awakened in them, the worst thing is that i cannot cite a single prime minister. i can give many examples of how people who are formally loyal to the president find themselves in this environment of this position among the fifth column. these are the people who flee russia and join this russophobic lobby. give examples. you can have a lot, but not a single one. for example, so that from this group of people a patriotic spirit wakes up in someone. someone like white immigrants said okay let us not like something in this mode, but this is a country, this is a people, not a single

example is at war. yes, to what extent they differ from the white migration, this is a real breed of traitors that was nurtured by us, which had full power in the nineties , ruled the country's economy by the policy of ideology. and now in a critical state for the people. e moment they were on the side of the enemy. this is such a betrayal. in my opinion. it is even unexpected even for such people. but at least. it is unexpected, but somewhat predictable, because they openly identified themselves as western. they are, in general, their dream. it was for russia to be quiet, quietly you, i retell you and correct me. if this is not so, well, as i understand it, uh, for them the west was and is everything, yes, but the situation is more serious than it would be if it were simply, but

simply the western part of lithium switched, if you want to more radical positions, especially since they do it openly. well, how was it discharged, if the second category, which does not seek the immediate defeat of russia well, in in general, say it in your own words, what they want and who they are, here is the second decision-making center. with us, white, from our point of view, alas, is also a losing party. only the first pole is a party of immediate defeat, which will do everything for the end of russia that is required of them and western western teachers and curators, and there is another category more dangerous. in my opinion. i call in other articles. this is the sixth column , not the fifth, but the sixth. that is, these are people who, on the one hand, also share the western ideology is also liberals as well, but identify their own destiny and their own homeland with the west, but who is personally loyal to president putin, they

accept him, they are loyal to him and now they are not traitors. they are not traitors. no, they are for their own. they hung once the president started his own. so they don't think they were asked because they would of course. they advised him not to start under any circumstances another point of view with which you do not agree. on this is not treason. it's invariably more than that. these people in some cases, being fully westernized liberals are now demonstrating, in fact, real patriotism gradually. here are the processes. here you can name a lot of people who, before the start of their own, were a staunch westerner, loyal to putin, but after the start of their own, they switched to patriotic positions. this is a very large now our elites, and i believe that it is not in them, and not in these e problems, but the problem is that all the same they remain, they all remain for pro-western

oriented people. they remain liberals and they. willingly unwittingly being solidarity in and loyal to our president, they still cannot accept this radical opposition to the west. but we are at war with him, we are at war, not just. well, in ukraine or yes? the goals are much more limited than you would like, and their goal is just to end this war as soon as possible, they talk about it from time to time, that's their real goal. at the same time , they understand that this should be done only on the conditions that build our president. and our people. accordingly, they are here together for this third position of the president and turnovers. i call the victory party, that is , they understand that this conflict cannot be stopped. e on the terms of the complete defeat of russia and therefore they are a party of compromises who support this word, but do everything possible to quickly, and return to before

february 24th. and here there is such a moment that they cannot be reproached, unlike the first group, that they are traitors, they are not traitors, they are loyal, uh, to our state and our people, but in their views they, of course, do not correspond. that fundamental struggle of civilization, which has now begun, that is, they are slowing down even against their will, they are slowing down those processes that are necessary for a full and fundamental victory, that is, they oppose the parties of victory not because of betrayal. and by their nature, if you like, they are accustomed to a peaceful life. they believed they agreed that it was possible to achieve sovereignty together with putin and remain western people remain western part of western civilization continues liberal politics. and now it's impossible. now i would like russia to win in a very narrow sense

and continue to return to the status it is absolutely right to return to the minsk agreements to the minsk agreements before the fourteenth year to the status quo, so that russia is sovereign to the extent that the president requires of them, maybe they would like to give up on this, as in some, but we don't know. this is just a guess. i think they are, to be honest. relate and understand them. rather, to recognize their honesty, they are for sovereign russia, but for sovereign russia within the framework of western civilization on the basis of western european values ​​and accordingly, they are really ready to give up a lot in order to return to the status quo. the worst thing in this category of people, firstly, that this is a significant part of the elite if they are the majority ; the worst thing is that they do not understand that there will be no return maybe they do not understand the irreversibility of those processes, because what is happening now. this is not a local skirmish with the west. this is a fundamental conflict. the west, seeing our e, determination to defend its sovereignty. uh, i'll use what they are looking for, as the west believes. we

showed weakness. they are now not considering at all, it is possible to leave us the right to survive. they want to kill us. and for them , those who, someone, someone in russia is ready to share western values, they don’t care at all. these people. fall into the category of uh opponents, the west are subject to the most stringent sanctions along with staunch patriots. the west now, between this sixth column and the patriots, between these two decision-making centers on our side, practically does not act on principle. they don't understand it. they they think that if they now help the west to stop this conflict with them, these sanctions will be imposed on them. everything will return to the status quok, status-clo. we will not return under any circumstances, even if we wanted to, even if we wanted to, even if you wanted to, why for one simple reason, that those conditions that the west can even theoretically

offer us in the current in the current situation. they will be categorically all absolutely unacceptable for president putin and our sovereignty. they will offer something incomparable to life, that is, to give donbass give uh, lnr, dnr give kherso. give up the zaporozhye region give up the crimea well, of course, they will not lay claim to belgorod, but if we say that all this was a mistake from the fourteenth year. this is the end of finis-russia. this is the end of russia completely, because everyone will lose legitimacy and power and people. we will find ourselves in a situation after which the destruction of russia is inevitable, so what the west can offer there is not comparable to our survival. if it is logical to understand, then it will remain one decision center, but not not two, because i think that, of course, the global opposition. these are the liberals who came to the side of the terrorists, and the west and ukrainian nazism. they have already influenced, they do not

influence the decision, but they are still there in our society. those who want a delayed defeat, they are still influencing and looking for every every every possible opportunity of every open one, and the window is the window of opportunity in order to start peace negotiations, which are impossible and, accordingly, they slow down those processes that are simply necessary we all prepare and in which it is necessary participate. so we come to our third figure of whites - this is the victory party , this is, first of all, the president, who began this course towards sovereignty, which led us to a frontal frontal confrontation with the west, because the west was ready for a peaceful existence with us. only without sovereignty again. we removed to strengthen sovereignty in uh, from now on. and this was the very moment when vladimir vladimirovich putin came to power. from that moment on, we began to prepare for a fundamental confrontation with the liberal globalist west. and here is the victory party - this is the president

, this is the security forces, of course. these are the people who overwhelmingly support the president and understand much better than the elite understands the serious situation, so people volunteer in droves to go to the front and die there, and this is a serious thing people. they give their lives for very specific things for the motherland, which is for victory, which for them is an existential core. the president understands this. the people understand this. this is understood by the patriotic part of our elite, which has always been patriotic, and not only now after its own, and this, of course, is the victory party, and here are the three poles, this is from the side of the whites. so we have them more or less what's the problem? what do i think? who, uh, the final one, after everything that the collective west has done, somehow really doesn’t want to deal with them and really doesn’t want to. in general, to return to the normality that existed before the start of the operation and

which in the history of russia was abnormal, because it was russia humiliated, reduced in size and which allowed to play, equal to the united states, the role of international relations. and what do i think is the problem? when president putin gave the order to start a special operation, it was not after the collective west refused to make any global concessions to russia; in general , russia's demands were limited. they were formulated very often, but the conditions were, and don't take ukraine into nato, don't pump weapons into ukraine, and the same. move nato borders away from russia let's go back to what happened in the late 1990s. you

even the recognition of the first wave was allowed. here from this from this indignation refused. but if russia now would say that the old conditions no longer have anything to do with the russian agenda. it's hard to imagine that washington london brussels would also easily agree to some kind of agreement, that is, in other words , what you are talking about requires some kind of very large-scale victory. do you agree with this? if yes, then how to achieve it absolutely exactly victory must be for real, large-scale russia must show its geopolitical sovereignty, not only declared not only economically, not only politically, but geopolitically, that is, we must prove

to the west that if we started the process of denocification of the demilitarization of ukraine, we have the strength of will and resources enough to complete it, otherwise we let's put it in this position. in general, they will cease to be considered; for this, a complete mobilization of society is needed. i am not talking now about military mobilization - this is decided by other authorities. i tell them about the need to rebuild our society in the way of a serious deep-seated clash with the west, a conflict with the west, as with civilization. here i am in another article , as with ideology, as a liberal society, as in the end, uh, the anti-christian and anti-religious structure of which i have long forgotten about the vertical transcendental dimension of being. it's in this metaphysics, because someone could tell you and by someone i don't mean some idiot or some traitor and what kind

of person you are. let's say from the second category that mentioned him, maybe i can even tell the people. professor dugin , don't you want too much from us, you are a person of very consistent views. you are a man of great courage. you are a truly heroic person. we take off our hats to you, but not everyone is like you, and what you are proposing will require huge efforts and great sacrifices, and then the question arises for you, and why did you give an answer to this wah and the second article. and i would like you to formulate. this is waha's definition of the meaning of the struggle of the russian collective west beyond geopolitics. the most important thing here is, of course, that the mes have collided, not just one

civilization with another civilization, but we have collided with such a civilization, about which western modern western, globalist, civilization wants to be the only one. uh, insists that it is she who will determine the norms of the rule and values ​​for all peoples, as soon as we turn to our traditional values ​​​​and simply formally list them mercy with uh justice the superiority of spirit over matter, strong family, honest just work. we see completely different foundations and other pillars than modern liberal western civilization. if they win, they will wipe our values ​​from the face of the earth. and this is their whole way of life. this is our way of life even before, and even more so our way of life is formally similar to them, but in the depths of no, they will erase our essence. they will erase our identity. they eliminate what makes our civilization of us russian people russian did for centuries for

centuries under different regimes. we kept a certain identity, to which now, in which we are now denied the other we are carriers. e quite specific outlook of the world outlook, where the foundation is catholicity or collectivity universality compassion mercy values ​​are completely opposite to western liberalism and western liberalism, which asserts the superiority of the individual. everything needs only individuals and all other forms of collective connections of relations. even in the family , even at the gender level, all this is possible. these are all additions to the individual. here is the goal. if you are satisfied, then all the rest you owe don't care. this is the meaning of liberalism. it is an ideology, already, which the west is strongly opposed to inspired by. our internal ideological attitudes beyond the right and the left. if we compare, if

it were building, russia would not be able to live the way it wants, of course, in the most important categories, the most important in the very depths. this applies to both the right and the left, because our right-wing collectivists are monarchists, supporters of the orthodox way of life of populism, our left supporters social justice and everywhere, the individual is rejected. here we are in the 19th century, er, and our left and our right hated jeremiah bintham, and the anglo-saxon theorist of utilitarianism, who said, what is good is what is useful to me. this was rejected by our slavophiles, they said nothing more terrible than anything more heretical anti-russian. they had never heard of it, and this was rejected by the left supporters of socialism for parenthood, they said no, nothing more terrible than the capitalists, bentham. i give you uh, don't care, because we're coming to the very end. i just can't finish, no mentioning another category. you talked about the category in the west, which gives you. if i

understand correctly, the hope is that this conflict will not necessarily be apocalyptic. and what is possible, a real change in policy. the west may even be somewhere as close as the twenty-fourth year. could you briefly say what you meant, yes, in the west, just like we have three decision-making centers, one decision-making center that understands that russia, or i think that russia has weakened, goes to great lengths to finish us off it is from this center that the decision on the explosion of gas pipelines, the attack by drones of moscow, the most radical terrorist attacks, come. all this is inspired, inspired and in fact carried out by one of these centers. he is partly american, partly british, and no matter how compromised, he does not want to go with anyone for him. by the way, what, and here are our uh, former liberals loyal to putin that patriots are all the same to them and they are absolute

goals. yes, the second to the second decision center is more relaxed, which is ready recognize, uh, some positions of russia in order to stop her further. and the third is for those who will be deeply indifferent to indifference. it's trump that suits it. i think it's ideal, it's ideal if this third decision-making center comes to power in the form of trump or some other representative, most likely from the republican right. although it may be from the democratic left. i'm convinced that they would get involved in america, they would get involved in some kind of social problems. inside. they could have insisted on american leadership had every reason to, but they would have left us alone. they said america will be at the center of the world, but everyone else let them either follow or their own business, how to build their own destiny trump practically

thought. and this did not matter to us. and not of course, they naively hope that people who love us will come to power in america, but if there are people who are indifferent to us, who are not convinced globalists and who are more concerned about america than by continuing its expansion of its expansion of its hegelmony, then i think that this is a chance for us and the party of victory is our party. victory with their party of indifference could perfectly build the next stages of relations, that is, russia has its own mission, but russia is not a messianic country and does not try to impose this mission on anyone and never did. and if russia was left alone. that would be enough for you. i think yes, uh i think you know with all of ours with all of our mission. we must be realistic.

we must understand the boundaries that really belong to our civilization, and those boundaries beyond which the influence of the attractiveness of this civilization rooted in this civilization ends and here we must say stop, of course, china is a separate civilization, india is a separate civilization by islamic parents of civilization not to mention africa and latin america, that is, we must we e people with a mission who know their boundaries. and if the americans were a people with a mission, also knowing their natural boundaries. i think, that there was no problem between us, but the fact of the matter is that their messianism knows no boundaries. they are overstretched, they are overstretching these boundaries. and in principle, if they continue in the same spirit , it will not end with anything other than a collapse in the united states of america. i'm afraid you 're right, of course, the collapse of america would have been a pleasure for someone in moscow, but when what families did he remind you of when he said that

the collapse of the great nuclear power should not put too much pressure on russia? it certainly could be for someone will give emotional satisfaction. better without this alexandra, thank you very much. it was a very interesting conversation. and i hope to see you very soon again in our world. take care thank you. there is an opinion that intelligence professionally enough can judge everyone this misconception is based on a deep study of detective novels to understand the essence of the matter. we only need to know the following. the first dargite in the city under the sign of a pharmaceutical center, the german war criminal dr. has is finishing work on a new psychochemical weapon, gas page, the second case of hass is being handled by our scout of the nicknames' possessions. donates banionis in the film

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who pretends to be the great statesman of the great state after several days of the most serious accusations against russia what is happening? in washington, london, brussels, berlin, paris , not a single person from statesmen expresses surprise and indignation that ukraine allowed itself such irresponsible accusations, tried to drag the collective west into confrontation with russia, and it turns out kiev has no evidence. well, explain why they

behave this way. well, if you look the chronology of the first not even hours, but maybe minutes after this news broke. e around the world according to kakhovskaya. uh, hes after all the first reaction. she came from kiev, where an emergency meeting was convened, or the security council was only some other governing structure, and it was kiev that was the first to blame the russian federation for this catastrophe in this tragedy rather quickly. i, uh, am sure thoughtlessly, what is called vera pulled themselves up for a word. uh, many western politicians and the leadership of the european union and barrel and michel and then scholz, the federal chancellor of germany, also, so to speak, quite quickly said about the same thing, but then from my point of view. some processes began to take place inside. zelensky, if you said it like that, we couldn’t help but support you. let's just say, where is it? what were you talking about. and why are you so

peremptory? this position, uh, was also taken by zelensky, as it turned out. uh, there were absolutely marked cards in his hands, as it was before, when he accused russia of shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, when he accused russia in undermining the electric gas pipelines, the nord stream, when he tried to blame russia for almost the fact that we ourselves blew up, the crimean bridge, and so on and so forth, and now he is clearly completely acting back, referring to to certain objective circumstances. this is not our territory. or rather, not by us. it is now under control, therefore, therefore, we, we, we , cannot say anything more definite. here we are from the russian side. please note that in the first hours there were practically no statements from the russian side. they appeared later they came to an end. here on this first day of the tragedy, and they, uh, were clear , the responsibility was assigned to the ukrainian side. by the way, today the federation council, uh,

sent the parliament of the world its appeal on this score with the same assessments and probably, well , anyone can ask. and how do you know? and why do you have such confidence that this is the work of kiev and i have an answer to this, and at one time such fundamental principles of the investigation were formulated back in ancient rome and there was so it is said that the answer must be sought for the four main questions, if something happens. well, the first three of them, uh , everyone knows, i think, because they are in the title, uh, our popular tv show, what where when. here are the first three questions from the ancient roman investigation. what happened where it happened, when did you know the questions? naturally, the answers are exhaustive. there was a sabotage; it happened at an uh facility, which absolutely should not become, uh, a target for the uh

armed forces. and it happened at a time when it was beneficial to someone. and so now the fourth question of the ancient roman e-e consequence of quebon. excuse me for, uh, there may be a fuzzy pronunciation in latin, who benefits who benefits, and now i have, of course, an exhaustive answer to this question. that's what happened is definitely not beneficial to russia. look what we are now forced to do. we rescue people, we uh, get those people out of the disaster area. we compensate them for the costs. uh, well, there are a huge number of consequences that, well , were clearly completely miscalculated if it suppose there was some kind of planned action on the russian side, then it would be easy to predict what kind of trace for the russian side would be after that and of course. this, among other things, is enough from my point of view. i'm not military experts enough tangible

damage, including for our positions and our armed forces, which are located in this zone. and in exactly the same way, all this plays into the hands of the ukrainian side, because it is for the ukrainian side that this opportunity arises once again accusing russia is the first opportunity for the ukrainian side to transfer their troops within the framework of some such mythical and, uh, everything. the time of the promised contrast is to transfer our troops to other directions, so as not to keep them here under e, kherson. well, in general, to make all this another propaganda campaign, which, in fact , zelensky tried to do, but he obviously does not succeed. and i have a feeling that it is now already. well , if not the last straw, then very close to the overflowing bowl of patience from the side western. uh, cartridges, zelensky who

over and over again, relying on what he understands what he is doing themselves find themselves in the same one, which is obviously much deeper than even the spill. the spill of e-e water after the kakhovskaya e after the kakhovskaya kakhovskaya tragedy, i don’t see it yet. uh, signs of that in washington, if we are talking about the administration if they were in congress, it became uncomfortable for someone, i don’t see such signs in the main european capitals either, the main position, as it were, was formulated very clearly, it’s not so important who really is did it. this is all the result of russian aggression, and russia has been there recently and, accordingly, all the wine of russia . of course, one could say that this is all the fault of the illegal coup that was carried out in ukraine under, if you want, the actual auspices. nato could

be said to be the result of how russia was deceived in the case of the minsk agreements, but many other deceptions, including forgiveness. nato , but the fact is that no one accepts such logic; logic works only in one direction. you u must stand at attention, u before the master teacher. and if your behavior does not match, and with some norms that never existed, but it’s quite such, and an ideal approach to your duties. by definition, you are to blame, and the teacher he is the representative of the authorities , and it does not even occur to demand from the teacher that he behave in an appropriate way . and in the middle of the last century, the british writer george orwell wrote the famous dystopia 1984 and, for a long time, readers

believed that there she described the totalitarian society of the last quarter of the 20th century, meaning the soviet union so i recently re-read this work and caught myself thinking that joel is a genius. actually described uh, totalitarianism. eh, the first quarter of the twenty -first century, and here the system, then this construction of the world, which claims the polar world. look what it says big brother, who is watching you all the time. here are those who still have iphones in their pockets and e, i also include mrs. mirkel, who at one time was tapped by the american special services, among them, they will probably confirm that the feeling is great. which is always with us now for sure, but this big brother turns out to be, the united states of america uh, denial of uh, love denial

relationships between a man and a woman are described in the same brilliant novel. that's all that 's going on right now with e values ​​in quotation marks lgbt parent number one parent number two. it's exactly the same scenario. well, and finally, the constant rewriting of history. yes, there he has, uh, east asia fought with the ocean or vice versa all the time. look what is happening, it turns out now that the second world war is at the same time, stalin’s hitlers started it, they are responsible for this, and ended this world war ii with the defeat of nazism exclusively, the united states of america it turns out that they didn’t bomb hiroshima and nagasaki nothing was said about this, in including during the last appearance. uh, in japan, uh, mr. biden. they were not engaged in yugoslavia, because now the thesis is that the russian-ukrainian conflict is the first after the end. e world war ii

war armed conflict in europe they are talking about it seriously. well, and so on and so forth. now i'll get back to your question. you know, at the same time i caught myself thinking one more thing: georgioru had no less brilliant roman e, the barnyard. uh, and uh, there u recall, maybe someone didn't read it. uh, an animal of a certain kind of pig is taking over. and then to all the other animals. they say that they will live by the new rules. these rules are public they uh sound attractive all animals are equal animal. cannot kill another animal. there is even something about the fact that you can’t sleep on the bed in order to differ in some way from the former people of the enslavers, and then these pigs e quietly rewrite these rules in each case i add something, but the most famous thing is that all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others less known. uh, one animal can't kill another and

then postscript for no reason, and on the bed , it turns out, you can't sleep on a sheet, and not in principle, yes, so that's why i just remembered this. it's absolutely accurate analogy with the rule-based order that comes to replace international law. here, it seems that everyone created international law and everyone agreed with it, and then someone starts rewriting it for themselves and at the same time does not even tell the whole world around them that they did it. they simply rewrite these rules for themselves, as they did in the jorjoula novel. sorry, this is not my term, but a term. writer, how did the pigs do it like a pig, so that's all that you just told about the reaction or the lack of reaction on the part of the united states to these absolutely ugly actions of zelensky and this blatant imposition of responsibility on russia for everything that happens on the territory of the former ukraine or on the former territory of ukraine is a phenomenon of the same

order. this is this, uh, permissiveness and impunity that arise from the illusion of building the world on orders that are based on their own rules, nothing more than that, and impunity of permissiveness impunity is the most terrible phenomena of the modern world. so far they have only increased in the collective west from my point of view and as they write. uh, western american, for example, observers at the beginning. uh, here are the biden advisers. uh, they were, if you like, more careful about how far they could go in ukraine because they were afraid of being searched by russia and they were escalating here, not in ukraine because if zelensky is ready to fight, and in general it is, uh, not the best. top priority. uh, collective commandments to reduce ukrainian

losses. they began to feel impunity, because there were no losses of their own, because contrary to their initial fear , russia did not respond with any steps that would be truly painful for the countries of the collective west and there may be a lot of , uh, good reasons that led to this russian strategic restraint. i actually think these reasons are very serious and real, because well, there was no need for another front and, uh, besides, russian actions. could lead to serious western opposition, but with the other side. don't you think that we are at a point where this feeling of permissiveness and impunity is becoming so strong in the collective west

that, in general, if you do not try to bring it under control, then there will be more and more escalation and not from russia and from the nato side, everything that, uh, as a starting point, is linked to the date of february 24 of last year. and in my deep conviction it was absolutely adequate, but maybe, uh, a little belated reaction to those events that happened in the world all the last three plus decades after the end of the cold war, because every year every month every day that uh kept the world in this state of increasing unipolarity. really make an effort. not the values ​​of either freedom or, e, democratic e, beginning in the modern world, he strengthened, e, the feeling of his own

god's chosen people. this group of states has their e, illusions of their own exclusivity, and behind this self-assignment to themselves at the same time the functions of an investigator. maybe they talked about it. uh, the prosecutor's judge and the executioner. here it turned out to be of public opinion, of course and all this was accompanied by uh, with the following appropriate processing of the brain. and here's a little more from my point of view, this process. it could already become irreversible. now, if all this began to happen after a year, after five, and even more so after 10, i already think there are chances for rectification. this is a completely curved trajectory of human development. eh, it would be extremely difficult now , there is every chance for this. here are the horror stories that themselves uh keep themselves constant. uh, fear of the country of the west. now, if we now surrender ukraine further, at the next stage, the russians will come for us. but these are absolutely false

fabrications, because we never intended to come for anyone. as a matter of fact, because of ukraine we were not going to come from ukraine and we came to these lands. we came there in order to help people who found themselves in the most difficult situation, after e thank you for reminding us of the 2014 coup d'état, and all the demands that we made to ukraine in fact were in no way superior. if you want a completely normal bar, even no maximum normal there, that we arranged for our own country relationships with people of a different nationality relationships with people of a different faith attitudes towards people of other beliefs. that's all. we have been implementing this in a completely natural way all these years, and we really only expected this from ukraine equally. in order for it to continue to follow those principles, those values, those promises that they wrote down for themselves in their own first documents that in the ninetieth year

proclaimed the sovereignty of ukraine and in the ninety-first year they proclaimed the independence of ukraine, what is written there? now it’s easy, uh, to read and find out that there is respect, uh, the rights of all citizens , regardless of the language of religion and nationality and everything else, there is a neutral status of ukraine and there, without a nuclear status of ukraine , that’s exactly it, well, it’s clear that u rejection of nazism ukraine, he is among the same values. it's just that maybe he wasn't written out there as a refusal to nosify, but on in fact it is quite obvious. uh, a democratic condition for the development of any society. here is our position ukraine must stand on the principles by which it began its statehood, at the end of the twentieth year. they are more or less no less or no more are perfectly normal civilized. these are the demands of expectations from ukraine, which in fact could and should have been common

expectations from ukraine, general demands to ukraine from the entire world community, including its european grain. and we could definitely unite in this for a long time and with our partners at that time. i will advise europe with our osce partners so far. all this could be done in time. that's when it wasn't done. we were denied this . ukraine was taken under such a hood of collective protection. i call a spade a spade. well, this led to, uh, such a sharp denouement, which is called the beginning of the russian special uh operation, one very simple question. now, given everything that you said and given the experience of the russian collective west. can we say that russia understands the importance of the bezna factor?