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common expectations from ukraine, common demands to ukraine from the entire world community, including its european grain, and we could definitely unite in this for a long time and with our partners at that time. i will advise europe with our osce partners so far. all this could have been done in a timely manner. that's when it wasn't done. we were denied this. ukraine was taken under such a hood of collective protection. i call a spade a spade. well, this led to uh such uh acute denouement, which is called the beginning of the russian special e-e operation. i will ask one very simple question. here, given everything you said and taking into account the experience of the russian collective west. is it possible to say that russia understands the significance of the factor of impunity and the permissiveness of the factor
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that the west appropriated to itself and that, as in the collective west, special operations were not far away and when russia spoke for a long time and tried to rely on diplomacy for a long time. and then what was done was done, i think it’s right to rely on the collective west, that russia has not yet crossed the red lines, which , by the way, russian leaders have never announced anywhere and which were not present in any russian doctrinal documents. is it right that this is a misconception in the west to think that while the past is, uh, if you like a good guide for predicting the future. and that something that passed the deadline will still go on, and the deadline will continue. well
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, absolutely uh, absolutely correct and adequate we appreciate this situation. moreover, we evaluate not, uh, only starting from uh, last february , but let's remember, uh, the reversal is primakovany to the atlantic. let's remember the speech of president putin in munich in the seventh year. let's remember our completely resolute response to the completely uh, irresponsible actions of the west uh. the same syria and before that, in libya, iraq and afghanistan, all those previous phases of our reaction, as it turned out with the west , were simply ignored. they pretended in the west, what is it with this russia be considered. we are still stronger. we are still always free. we are still unpunished. and that's just why it happened. this is the last line, after which i repeat once again, the development of events could become irreversible, but fortunately, fortunately, this is good news, these
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e place in the region and if there are any real challenges to your security with your sovereignty thank you for the question, of course we perceive ourselves as a subject international law. it is our unequivocal position that the status of abkhazia is not discussed, and we do not discuss it at various international platforms. we are discussing completely different issues, in particular, if we talk about the geneva site, it’s just the agreement on the non-use of force that we demand to be signed with the georgian side, georgia just refuses to sign this agreement, which, from our point of view, certainly creates an additional risk for architecture security in the south caucasus, we demand the signing of this agreement. georgia refuses due to the fact that he considers us occupied territory, allegedly. abkhazia is a territory of georgia which is unconditionally occupied by the russian federation.
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this is not true. by the way, these are absolutely absurd territorial claims of georgia. by the way, you can give examples of a historical nature. when the russian empire collapsed in 1917, georgia and if you get into the league of nation, you submitted the relevant documents and there was a map of georgia in the application package, allegedly, the territory of georgia extended to the tuapse region of any the historian will confirm to you that the georgian state or the georgian proto-state never possessed this territory. this is about the absurdity of these claims and their lack of historical validity, so there are certainly certain risks. we are actively working with our russian colleagues on the platform of the geneva discussions to ensure that the situation is stable, that we develop calmly
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, we demand recognition of the state sovereignty of the republic of abkhazia from the outside , these risks are manifested in the fact that constant calls from ukraine from the countries of the west and the united states of america related to the launch of the so-called second front in the south caucasus especially from the territory of ukraine and the west is interested in you creating a kind of ring of fire around the russian federation in order to divert the money resources of the army from the attention of russia and implement a kind of strategy of a thousand cuts to organize local painful conflicts around russia and the west believes that the south caucasus is a good option and a good chance. if they manage to run conflict, transnistria for example. they will do it too, so we expect certain provocative destructive actions on the part of the states and will be monitoring the situation very closely. do you expect such
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actions or something is already happening, you know certain precursors are taking place, for example , in abkhazia, the united states is trying to deploy a system of direct organizations in order to work with soft power at the first stage. for us. this is a certain signal. we are following this very closely, and we do not want to let this happen. so that risks become threats, and the threat becomes war. we certainly, uh, want to live in peace. but if we have to take up arms, then so be it. we hope that the situation will stabilize and that georgia will act within the framework of international law, and these are non-profit organizations. how active they are in abkhazia, to what extent they are controlled by the collective west and georgia , you know, they are quite active, they are at the stage of carrying out humanitarian
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activities, as it was in ukraine when at the first stage, software is used to create some kind of image to expand the network of contacts to attract bloggers, journalists to public figures of politicians, and then the work moves on to more radical actions of direct action. this is what happened in ukraine, what we saw in kiev, so we do not want to allow the expansion of the contact base. we do not want to allow the transition to radical actions, while we are at the preparatory stage, so to speak, from the point of view of the states , but certainly our department foreign affairs of the republic of abkhazia, within its competence, will monitor the work of ngos in order to avoid. to allow certain radicalizations in our region , interesting events are taking place, not only arguing from the position
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of this is normal, but with the president, who, uh, originally belonged to the party in power , creates some kind of atmosphere of instability. does this atmosphere affect abkhazia? you know, georgia, its internal policy is also an internal matter in our life. it doesn't affect it in any way. we see that in in georgia, there is a definite interlithic conflict. the president of georgia on the one hand and on the other side of the government, we see the government is trying to solve poverty issues, the issues of socio-economic development of health education, and the president of georgia is more engaged in ideological relations, the georgian government does not cut off relations with the russian federation tries to develop communication precisely in order to solve internal economic problems. we understand this very well. perhaps it is pragmatic normal position, on the other hand, we see
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the position of the president of georgia, which is more escalating and the president of georgia is today a source of escalation of tension, therefore, the internal affairs of georgia . the elected president and the government are legitimate, they can work within their competence. i am familiar, though superficially, with the president of the film for many years since she was a junior diplomat in the french embassy in washington in the eighties and she was then already such a staunch fighter against the soviet union, but as if it were still a different situation communism united the soviet union as she said the soviet empire now uh, there is no communism, and there is no empire.
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why do you think shvili e decided to take such a tough stance against russia you know, it seems to me that this is the result of her life path , the results of her biography, which you yourself said, we know the features of her biography and we have certain information about whom she consults, of course , active work is carried out by the american embassy, which operates in tbilisi which, by the way, coordinates the work of a large number of ngos in georgia, and we know this very well. do you remember the famous joke that the only country where a color revolution cannot take place. this is the united states of america because there is no american embassy there. as a matter of fact, it exists in georgia and we see that a large number of non-governmental organizations are under their control. we know that the president of georgia is also in this conditional team. and what will it lead to? we we hope that the situation will develop stably, although certain negative
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signals were just recently in the course of consideration by the parliament. draft law on transparency of ngos we remember that the parliament passed it. then it was removed from the agenda, and we see that ngos are very active and, frankly, this is to some extent reminiscent of the ukrainian scenario, when a critical mass of public figures , journalists, bloggers, who express certain anti-russian positions, is created. but we hope that the situation will develop in within the legal field. uh, in abkhazia of course there is no american embassy. and there is some kind of focal point that would allow washington to direct and influence the work of your unofficial organizations. and this is an interesting question. ump is working quite actively in our country. this is a un development program that, in our opinion, performs a coordinating function, actively implements projects usa is an organization that has become famous for its destructive activities throughout the post-soviet
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space and not only in the post-soviet space. we recently held talks with the minister of foreign affairs of nicaragu, which he shared with us, the work of all these organizations, and we absolutely have the same information messages about what they do, how they do it, their methods of work, so we will definitely not allow radicalization and certain illegal actions on their part. who protects your sovereignty, how would you do it yourself or, as i understand it, the big role of russia we have a big agreement of the russian federation , in fact, two treaties of 2008 friendship cooperation agreement of 2014, which defines our working relationship. uh, the united russian military base in the republic of abkhazia, which just guarantees our security, operates the border department of the federal security service of the russian federation, which also helps us protect our borders, so we feel quite confident
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that we have close allied close ties with the russian federation and we really hope there are forces in abkhazia that it will be possible to maintain peace and stability in the region of the south caucasus. maybe strength - this is a wrong expression, if the groups are the category of the population, uh, which, well, if you like, is annoyed by the presence of russia in abkhazia in which russia seems to be a large and popular body. whether such sentiments exist and how you deal with them in the world in which they exist, you know we do not have such sentiments . uh, the population is quite united in the context of foreign policy, we have absolutely respect. gratitude, very kind human relations with the russians. not just at the state level at the international legal level, but with russians. this is very important and, of course, this
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contributes to such a correct perception of what is happening in particular. let's say a very large support, a special military operation in our country. i think high is a very high support index. this applies to foreign support. this applies not only to sociology, but also to the facts, many of our fellow citizens. they took up arms, defended the freedom of those people who declared their russian armed forces absolutely yes within the framework of the volunteer movement. in including this is very important and you know you can draw an analogy with the great patriotic war, when we, too, all our ancestors, our elders defended our great role to the homeland, when it was extremely important and then more than 55,000 people from abkhazia defended the soviet union from fascism and then more than 17, 5 thousand people did not return home. for us. these are very big losses. but it is also pride. this is
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our legacy, we are very proud of it, so we can draw an analogy between the great patriotic war and a special military operation - this is true. the feat is our future legacy and our abkhazian wars defended the soviet union at various frontiers. by the way, this is the brest fortress - these are the walls of leningrad stalingrad - this is sevastopol and odessa, and our elders liberated the countries of europe and for us. this is a great legacy , today our compatriots are also bringing closer the fulfillment of the goals and objectives of the special military operation, making it selfless. we are also proud of them, but is there some kind of russian e, economic and personal presence in abkhazia , people come to become, if possible to express themselves as citizens of abkhazia and is this happening, how do you feel about it? do
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tourists come from the russian federation? they are in the republic of abkhazia for a certain period of time, then they return to the russian federation, this is actually a very important source of revenue for the budget of the republic of abkhazia, we fully support this and, uh, we expect a record number of tourists this year, last year there were also a sufficient number of tourists . this is all our place in the international division of labor, abkhazia is a prosperous republic that can offer its recreational tourist complex to guests from around the world. you know that in soviet times abkhazia was called an all-union health resort. and we want to reaffirm this important status, of course there is. we have a problem of international recognition, which arose after the war of 1992 and 1993, when georgia carried out armed aggression. against our republic, and 2 weeks after
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the adoption. kuzi to the united nations, this happened about 2,000 so the so-called guardsmen invaded abkhazia and our people heroically defended their statehood, and we, of course, demand recognition of the state sovereignty of the republic of abkhazia , first of all from georgia. , recognized the abkhaz soviet socialist republic, that is , there have already been precedents in history when georgia officially recognized abkhazia and we are sure that in the new historical realities this will definitely happen, because it is inevitable and there is no other way out of this situation. if you have any unofficial dialogue contacts with georgia that would be significant enough to consider it necessary to mention. you know, we have a dialogue
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only on the platform of the geneva discussions, this is official. let me remind you of the dialogue that in addition to the republic of abkhazia, our brothers from south ossetia, brothers from the russian federation , georgia is participating in the united states of america there, as well as the so-called co-chairs - this is the european union, the united nations and the osce and on this platform. it arose after the events of 2008. we are having a dialogue. the dialogue is going on on two topics. the first key theme is the signing of an agreement not to use force and the second theme is humanitarian issues. the issue of the status of abkhazia is not being discussed. we are not going to discuss it at any platform in abkhazia is a sovereign state. and if georgia wants to develop normal relations with us, then we demand unconditional recognition and signing of a mutually binding agreements on the non-use of force in order to maintain long-term stability in our region. last question i understand correctly that you have
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serious problems with georgia, but at the same time , the current government is behaving quite correctly. and what is called does not rock the boat or is this a simplification? you know, i would not like to give any superfluous, but value judgments so that they are not interpreted incorrectly, but we see that the georgian government is solving those tasks that are within their competence in their competence is the solution of socio-economic issues. and i think that it is precisely on the basis of economic pragmatism that the decisions that are made by the georgian government are dictated. we, in turn, are developing allied relations with the russian federation; together, our people support a special military operation, and we greatly value this alliance, president of the republic of abkhazia aslan georgievich byaniya, probably, in every speech. this emphasizes that this is extremely important for us today. i wanted to give you a book as a gift after the broadcast
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our national leader, the first president of abkhazia, vladislav arzenba. and this book notes that the closest ties with the russian federation is the way to a brighter future for our country. thank you very much. and huge. thanks for taking the time to show up. we are on the air we hope to see you soon at the base thank you thank you it was a great game and see you soon on the air. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkapperov. this is a space history podcast. today we will talk about the unique sirius project for 240 days five representatives from russia, america and the united arab
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emirates were in an isolated space at the institute of biomedical problems. where was a simulated flight to a near lunar orbit , was my friend the commander of this international crew? oleg blinov oleg blinov is a research cosmonaut who works with me at the cosmonaut training center, cosmonauts hello oleg hello please tell us what you are doing at the cosmonaut cosmonaut center. and in general, how did you come to astronautics. now i am engaged in the development of complex simulators of promising ships. this is such an interesting topic, uh, which suggests that we will have new ships in the near future. well, and, accordingly, under these new ships it is necessary to create a drainage facility for astronauts. and here we are now under a promising transport ship. the eagle is now called e, we are developing a comprehensive simulator that will allow you to work out on the ground. all stages
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of flight from the moment of launch to the moment of landing. but, and the second is the question of how i came to astronautics. i wounded served in aviation destination missile forces. uh, i flew in a mi-8 helicopter and then fate turned so that it was natural defense. i thought that our part should be periodized. and uh, the relocation turned out to be that i ended up in the center of the patriot cosmonauts and i was identified by the unit that deals with uh, the spacesuit for spacewalks and complexes was polished oleg tell me about the sirius project i am being designed - this is hmm a scientific project that is aimed at studying human behavior when flying into outer space. and for in order for this project to be recognized by the entire world community, the scientific community, including astronautics. it was decided to create e-consorption between e, the leading
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space agencies, and they united among themselves and created this service project aimed at the exploration of deep space. well soon, how did you find out about this project. and why exactly you became the commander of space research. i was interested quite a long time and the experiments that were in the soviet era. i read them, it is clear that i could hardly them to participate, but those experiments that were zero years of this millennium. for example, mars 500. this is, of course, a very unique project that will allow us to work out. simulation of a flight to mars and back, that's how it works there on mars yes, and to return and this project mars 500, then , of course, he dragged me into this topic. well, plus everything, by that time i was already so immersed in pilottion astronautics that i myself wanted to become an astronaut. well, testing activities. she was always with me throughout
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certain time. i interacted with the institute of biomedical problems in parts of interest. somewhere in some projects , pluses to the whole price of preparation. he always interacts with the institute. i have non-catological problems. how did i find myself at one fine moment, i receive a call and asks if vladimir vladimirovich yes, that’s the same thing, it means belakovsky, and he turned out to be the manager of the sirius project, they would like you to try yourself as a crew commander in the sirius project that is, immediately commander. yes i was, to be honest, i was i'm surprised at this offer. he says, if you have a desire, come to me, we will discuss everything. questions and we will continue to interact with you. everything is wonderful. everything went. as they say like clockwork now, uh, there remains a big task - to discuss it. this is the center. astronaut training as far as the center was, it is interesting, given that i still remain employees of the training center. and uh, the head of the center, that the business trip was issued. here, yes, yes, i
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got a business trip. i was the commander an unusual project to the moon, like a business trip, but also back. tell us about the composition of the crew by the time the project moved into the active phase. uh, the crew members didn't know anything from each other. that is, we did not know each other, about two and a half months before the start of the isolation experiment itself. and we met and saw from each other the composition of the crew. there were three russian crew members, and two american and one arab representative, but in order to during the preparation of e, reserve duplicate and each crew member was the main crew and was a backup, the same number was an understudy. yes, yes, and that's for 2 1/2 months. we were trained in scientific experiments together. undergoing background research was a whole program. yes, uh, our experiment included about 70 scientific experiments, which uh, were
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presented uh, and from different countries to my knowledge. this is about 18 strange presented their uh, scientific projects that we have implemented and part of the projects that, in principle, have flowed over from the real space programs. and during our preparation , we formed a team. that is. here we are 12 people - this is a separate crew, we did not share the main backup, everything was great. and on top of that, it’s horrible, just in time for the pandemic, we are literally there , uh, uh, three weeks before the start. one fine evening, guys, this is how the guys begin. that is you more you were individually crewed. well, the main duplicate either together we were all together, but the boys and girls were separated, the boys slept, the girls were different, and so the blue of the working day. we were together. and in principle, representatives of scientific programs came to us, and
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every day we were trained in the experiment. this is how we got to know each other and approached our poet during an isolation experiment. what language did you communicate in? and we communicated in russian-english arabic, and also arabic. well, given that the two representatives of the main and backup were the representative of the united arab emirates, guys, so you are on the forte, can you say something now? oh you know it would moment when we tried to learn uh, arabic , getting so much to memorize certain phrases, but understand this language. by the way, when we salah, what is the main representatives of the arab emirates say guys, everything is simple. uh, russian and arabic, in principle, look like a lemon, that is. well, in principle, you already know one word in arabic and like this . we found, and then the crew , which has already become the main one. it seems to me that
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a unique community of guys turned out to be who were really focused on the job and quite quickly we began, uh, to establish communication, both men and women, that is, the first time - this, of course, is the world of friendship . i mean, it's very, very good. and of course, when you are still within the limits, well, your relative territorial social freedom is not formed yet, uh, such relationships, as in conditions of severe isolation, when you are limited in space and in social communication. and how did your relatives react that you are 8 months old. hey, you won't be at home. on a business trip for them it was the most unusual that can happen. the fact is that when we seemed to have agreed that i would not have 8 months at home, i had to finish. yes, of course, we agreed. so we will have some connection we will be
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with each other. well we know that yes it's very easy for everyone to make free satellite phone calls. as much as you want, the main thing is the phone number and free time. very often we use videoconferencing, especially on weekends. we have internet photo video. and this is the most interesting. eh, and here it is that i agreed for 8 months that i would not be at home and it turned out that we were given the opportunity to write. uh, emails once a day, in some cases twice a day at a certain time interval, when you can send and receive this letter. no voice communication. why is a an imitation of what a is during space flight? in deep space, uh , talk to family there is no connection, well , the communication break does not work, for example, satellite broadcaster, it does not miss, but in order to get the maximum effect from social isolation. they knew they were driven into this
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framework. and only at that moment we were told that you had a communication delay of not 5 minutes, but it would not exist at all and there would be only correspondence via e-mails. and then this e-mail, it came to a certain buffer, where psychologists evaluated it, then sent it and sent it back, of course. such communication imposes a number of features. firstly, this is interaction with relatives; in this case , there is no dialogue connection. this is how we communicate with you now. questions answers questions-answer such a question answer within a day. or maybe two, but i don’t know about everyday problems here. when i flew, i usually don’t know about it. my wife came to park the car in the evening, it’s dark, cold, well, for some reason, she’s standing in the car and can’t close the garage. and she stands and does not know what to do. and at this moment. well, i don’t know, god, uh, apparently, he heard, and i realized that i needed to call home. that's it. that's the moment i call the phone. she, well, thank god you look, i 'm standing frozen. i do not know what to do. well i just i say go. there, right to left, there is a jar, such an iron one it says wd-40,
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sprinkle it in this one, and it closes everything. this was quickly resolved, being in space could solve it. and if such daily allowances, well, i'm telling you, there are the usual problems at once the level of problem solving. he jumped, that is, there are already problems to support her and me. that is, it turns out that one seems to be on an emigration flight, and the second, seemingly not in flight, but at the same time is in conditions, that is, all thoughts about how it happens there and the worst thing does not know what me, that is, they took me away in the first week, there was no connection at all. respectively. this is emotions, this is indignation on our part , too. we seem to be the first 2-3 days. it's euphoria wow we are in lockdown. we've got it all started. but from the third day, when awareness began to come that you cannot move to other modules.
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initially, not all modules were opened there, after a while one second third module is docked to us in order to provide e-bundle and further already with the help of a detailed tug to transport in the direction of uh, the orbit of the moon that is, it is like a chronology. she was patient. and when you realize that you are in volume. and what is, for example, uh, what are foreigners? here, for example, is a module. we have the same thing, only slightly along the length was e in diameter. uh, about five and a half six meters, the maximum diameter and length is about 15 m. here, this is our vital volume, in which there were originally six crew members, and then five people flew away alone. well, every expedition. poets unpleasant things, and in this case it turned out to be such an ethical moment in which we had to say goodbye to one person of the crew due to physical injury. this does not mean that we offended him. eh, well, this is a representative of which country of russia the girl is, and it so happened that she
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