why trample on my love? it's strange when you go crazy. i have

a feeling of guilt. i understand you. even have terrible dreams. merge that i do not survive until spring? i dream that spring has completely died. i thought fear was just words.

i need to leave you soon. i need to get rid of to get closer. so as not to explode, my head. i need to understand what i hate. i thought hate was just words.

why trample on my love? why

trample on my love? recently, for example, i have adopted such a story that i try

show in songs. well, if it turns out the world is a little bit better than it is, there are people a little bit better than what they are, only there are no such sad ones, it turns out. i have written many such positive songs in the last five years actually. that's when you show the world a little better. uh-huh, people believe you and many people think that he managed to treat life this way, so i will succeed. and you know it worked. this is the combination of the eternally young, like the bonds of such a serious and our attraction to the cosmos. and at all this there romanticism part of people. i considered this story and eventually appeared. here is a whole community of people that walks with the flags of the eternal young, goes on hikes , conquers elbrus and goes down under water, and which ones are for traveling? copes, that is , people who do something that they have not done before. and i like that i became a part

of such a kind of history, that is, forever young, not only for everyone else, became e well a brace. yes, ok, but for me too. naturally. i mean the part that refers to the film brother 2. yes, because several generations of people have received such an intelligible tool that you can rely on intelligible instructions. what is good and what is bad? after all? uh, brother 2 it was the most vibrant cultural event, perhaps the only film that the soundtrack to the film is also strong. like the movie itself. it's just that these are two very strong parallel works of the soundtrack and the film itself, and due to the fact that it was impossible to watch on cassettes. which artist is still singing. eh, confusion here. i meet. uh, glory heel it’s necessary, for example, he says, at every concert we ask for a song of eternal water, but we actually have a city, a dream city, that is , the songs mixed up and for a very long time it was not clear who everyone knew just now.

that's what a colonel is, no one writes him. all the rest - it was one kind of group. aha tell me how you were contacted, how did you understand that or when did you understand that your song was in your brother, 2 experienced something. how did it happen , some rumors began to appear that our song was taken to the second part in the films, brother hmm journalists started calling. well, no, guys, you are confusing us with someone, and already there quite shortly before the premiere, after all, they came to us , they brought us documents and there, in my opinion, rose-colored glasses also entered, and there was all the time, of course , we, as a real group, did not do a minus, but the film required a version of the song where sukhorukov throws a bottle and screams. i stand here to live and there part of the song is the first verse with the voice as well. the second part without a voice is here, so we urgently ran to the studio and recorded films. we see the gluing

one version and another here. well, it's almost unnoticeable, but here's a moment, what are you doing now? tell me i live in sochi , you know, buyback. yes, and i always, in fact, and i realized that the design of communication is mine, that i like it when there are a lot of people, they start brewing a new mess, some new projects. what kind of porridge do you have there, well, they built a barbie if there is a young one on the shore of the damn sea, yes, that is a dream that i also thought, 20 years old, instantly. i noticed the year it was built. i now understand, i now have a goal drive to sochi once again and cut yourself in your bar and take a walk, then you are so cool positive you live to the fullest. you breathe straight. uh, from you, the sochi sun comes straight, and people call some magazines. your work, well , the semantic hallucinations group, when it was called the most depressing group

of russian rock. for some reason, for some reason , it happens to me that when i start writing albums. here, uh, the previous album is called loneliness forever, and it starts with a very positive song. thank you. thank you brothers. thank you sisters, my sky and my stars are a very positive song, but it all ends with a mega-doctor, that is, a teacher. that is, how i managed to build an album from a super positive song. yes, super dark. but i just think that some kind of background that we all die. you know, kostya, i upset you a little, yes, do you believe that there will be something there? i would like to believe. in principle, cosmos really hopes so, but there are no guarantees. we don't, we'll never know. yes , i remember now the song, your depth and the song. i love this overall masterpiece. for some reason, i

listen to it and perceive it as a testament, as a guide to action. what to do? then , after we are gone, or you are gone, there was just a moment already. um, i understood that the history of the hallucination class band would end, and i was in such a very difficult background, as it were, because the breakup was very difficult, because for a whole year of this farewell tour. we drove, as if we were in different cars with the guys there in different dressing rooms, that is, people threw, like supposed to be like the depech group. it is located in different dressing rooms and is found only on stage. yes, and in general , relations somehow went wrong, or something, in the group, you know? i can just say frankly there is nothing to hide here. it was although it seemed that everything was fine, but in fact. it was a dead end,

because no motivations helped, so that this organism would work and money would not ask for anything. did they sabotage rehearsals or didn't want to play? that is, you need to understand when people say, before the nations were washed away, they were there like that, and now you have so actually you have to understand that we recorded the last two albums. ah , the drummer, zhenya nikulin, who is now playing with me, and before that he played in the total band in those same 2000s . it was just zhenya's last two albums. we have already made groups with him, in fact, and so we stayed. further, that is , it was possible to rent a studio where no one comes. that is, as if everything were, well, everything, as it were, that is, you play, there were no concerts. all. well that was the end and then i realized that i had been pulling this strap for 26 years. i was not yet 16 years old when

the semantic hallucinations group appeared. that is, all my life i have been playing this game with a completely stupid name with some kind of idiotic name. and yes, young people. here are the teenagers standing on the porch, er, the house of the architect. there was some kind of exhibition of some kind of underground artist, so we gathered such guys. let's make it time for groups to us some kind of organization perfectly. let's get you started, where do we start? let's name come up began to come up with the name of someone uttered an auditory hallucination. i asked semantic hallucinations. everything about. wouldn't it be great if i knew what i did? ha ha ha. yes, first of all, this inconveniently long title is hard to read. secondly, until now, the policemen giggle at me and ask if there are such people at the adler airport. oh hello. that's how, well, that's, as it were, and 26 years old. i

pulled this story, unfortunately, it was not enough. i'm crazy right away, but turn on iron man, and how would e somehow dictate my position. i constantly tried somehow to make people all, uh, be happy, express themselves somehow feel comfortable different side was bad. well, as it were, productivity, that is, played everything in democracy, yes, yes. that's why, when my close friend asked me, seryozha , how did you do it so cool that you dispersed the group, and now you stay and, as it were , your concerts continue and you sing songs and how to improve in your life. i say this is despair. today my guest is the leader of the semantic hallucinations group sergey bobunets seryozhka is your son nikita what does

music do, has nikita arrived today? uh, to this studio with me, he travels with us. uh, yeah, but he has his own band. and where does he live with you in sochi but no, he stayed there, of course, he said, i'm not going to get my passion. er, of course, music is better to do. as if you have a concert, he comes from yekaterinburg, you are from sochi, in fact, in all my group lives in yekaterinburg, except for the bass guitar. yeah, the bass player and i live in sochi. and zhenya is a drummer, he was a native muscovite, but fell in love with a ural girl and moved to live in yekaterinburg, now he is the most notorious patriot of yekaterinburg and, as it were, constantly trolls me. well, how is the weather with you, that is, we are going to rehearsals, or in ekateri. figurine either to moscow but in general we just fly from different to the concert fly from different sides and meet. that is

, we can say that you found your rose-colored glasses found yes, this is very useful forever, in fact, do not give up looking, as if 20 years ago. do you remember what you couldn't afford. and what do you know, that they were nothing special then and could not afford by and large. how many times were there examples? when we, for example, sat at some station? i remember very well the ryazan station , we had some kind of train transfer then in the 2000s there were still terrible problems with planes, yes, and with trains it wasn’t very constant that i even had to travel by train with transfers. and so we were sitting on a transfer in ryazan, we had one for everyone, there was a bottle of beer and some kind of pie. and at the same time, it was on channel one, which means that our song stars 3.000 was in first place at this moment we are sitting in this hall. give me here, grandmothers, these bags there, all this and we are with this pie, and yet. well, like, it's great. i think all the artists

were in there in the beginning in that situation. it was completely normal there was a different story, like a friend, the other side of this coin, despite the fact that the 3.000 album was terribly perfect recorded because it was made from demos , because we pulled and pulled and pulled and we were told we had to turn in the album in a week, and we have nothing but a demo. it's like a malevich exhibition. after 20 minutes it opens where the picture is, something like this, despite the fact that the 3.000 album is very badly recorded. people somehow felt through all this, that they felt something. yeah , and they were cut for us, and these songs, as it were, became folk songs for real, yes, that is, somehow i was very lucky. in general, the stars 3.000 sergey bobunets.

stars are falling from the sky. i'm sitting on the window under the stars waiting next. good luck is coming. luck hangs in clusters life on mars mortal beats, but not from the moon and gagarin the beast offended brought the mother's funeral for christ i

kiss the sky and the sea for the star of lies to the king freedom. everything flew, so there is nothing to be afraid of. who flew here with the task coped with the dark sky comets shine the light astronauts like this . i'm sitting on the window under the stars, waiting for good luck, counting change for that heaven and created from that, now i'm crying for a star over the ears the very freedom. i kiss the sky anoy, god live

with me. i kiss the sky hello pouring water with a whistle

magical freedom hallelujah

this is our wonderful podcast! the cube fulfills seryoga's wishes, whatever you wish for yourself in 20 years. so, well, first of all, i would like us to meet again, both of us be alive , feel good plus. we would have something to talk about, as if we were still. uh, not the next ones were normal for sure, understandable. well, it’s better now, of course, not to abuse our age, so forever young forever sober yet, secondly, so that i wanted to write songs, and i wrote to meet with you, and i told you about the new songs class. i'm for the guys. it was a podcast 20 years later, and my guest was a cool person born from yekaterinburg, now

sochi, one might say, was already guarding and, in general , the person who took root there seryoga buba bubunets. thank you very much. yes , not at all for this meeting. thanks for coming. class, this and many other episodes podcasts 20 years later. you can find it on the channel one website. this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya on batnikov. director, writer. today i am visiting. kirill shamanov, writer , art critic, artist, we will talk about william burrows and his junk novel. hello cyril. hello williams - this is a sixties guy from an educated and fairly

wealthy family, studied at harvard, studied medicine in europe, and then chose this path. uh, let's just say sink to the bottom and go through, in general, depending on illegal drugs, and he describes this experience in his books and quite unexpectedly becomes the classics of american literature, one of leaders of the beatnik movement, including alan gisberg, and in general, what can we say about burrows, whether he became a pioneer, but because we know that irvine welsh, uh, hunter thompson with fear of disgust in las vegas. all they can say were after the bureau followed in his footsteps. well, ah, for american literature, probably yes, but we also know there is russian literature, english literature in russian literature, we know bulgakov's morphine, uh, in

english literature. this is a de quincey novel. uh, another 1900 800 there are some tenth years, that is, yes, if we say, like this chronologically, as it were, who was the first in this whole autofiction. uh, such is the literature about addiction, uh, then, probably, this is still a devention, but speaking of the beatnik generation , speaking of bureaucracy, and his books and his style of description, then, of course, for modern literature for modern society. he probably really somehow managed to give it. yes, as it were, it became clear there, well, a huge mass of people, there his popularity testifies to this. a beatnik writers, they generally, well, let's say, how they differ. that is why they are called beatniks. let's talk a little about

this cultural context. well, we are talking about the end of the forties, the very beginning of the fifties . uh, this is the american post-war generation. that is, it is the rise of the american economy. at the same time, in general, the rather poor state of american culture. eh, at that moment there was a need. uh, somehow make her dominant in the world. there , buying an american, you buy the best, american cultural. they are many. these are the directions of many artists during the war that modern ones were taken out and created just like this, like plast e, literary including hmm here, that is, you can talk about it as in such a political technology project, but as in any project with something gets into culture and is always talented and really, as if here are a few authors for me. why do we say all these? so jan is fiction? let's call it literature. why is it written primarily

in the first person? here is this experience, it should be lived, as it were, and it is interesting precisely as an inner experience, first of all. it seems to me so, and precisely due to the fact that this inner experience is in the form of such a step-by-step diary of some often poorly structured text. but it's like it 's always there. here, as it were, the beginning, how a person began. there is some kind of abstract psychedelic period of this consumption of chaos and the subsequent, as it were , what came of it all, that is, well, usually it’s bad when the grave usually leaves, but in some cases, we suddenly we are faced with the fact that such an addiction managed to somehow rethink this experience and even made some kind of novel. you have experience, you have two books written also about a similar experience. tell me what this rethinking gave you when you went through this literature. i went to study

all these twelve-step programs, and there is a rather significant layer there, these are diaries, uh, feelings there, uh. well, it's an inventory of memory, an inventory of the psyche. there are blocks of their own. that is, you just remember some people of situations that hurt you there or no longer hurt you. what was delivered to you and described in detail there according to certain methods in order to understand. in general, someone in this situation did something wrong, what is the situation and when you have been doing this for years, you have such a habit, as if not well, through yes, through written some. yes, through a written analytics, to make some decisions , that is, well, then i noticed that some characters, here, whom i describe, i remember or situations, but they are so interesting that there is no way to describe them in these boring tables that something more literature is needed there. yes, what a story is needed, at least a story is needed, i started writing the first few short stories and then somehow all of a sudden

it all came together, there is a book a few years later, and it suddenly even became some kind of small bestseller, we won’t return to burouz, but berus began write after he got out of dependencies. yes, that is, he having gone through this yes review of his experience. it turns out formed. e yourself as a person. we can say that, we can say that, but we're talking about romance junk. we say, i just directly suspect that in this revision, that is, e, he did not stop being addicted and wrote a junk novel, but he began to work with his addiction and, as a result, wrote as a result. yes , this novel, and in which he is clearly expressed there, he has his thoughts, his own experiences , clearly there. well, uh, put it on paper, and what is this novel about? that is, uh, let's tell a little about all these autofiction novels about addiction, and they are to a certain extent, maybe to a major extent in fact, his freedom and the loneliness

of a person. i mean, about hmm, that's about, uh, addiction. yes, there are all these adventures , but uh, that is, this is what we say in american life. yes, there are these all to blame, but they are quite actually, yes, like ours. eh, my beloved pale one sings all my stories, in principle, are similar, that is, uh, all these novels, they really are. well, there's some man he's addicted to. he is there exactly this. well, there is more or less, but this moment of what he understands. it's that he's addicted. there, he feels his own, as it were , this servile one, as if in front of this drug of life. yes, that is. and that's what it was. uh, analysis, yes, that is , laying it out on paper, how it tries to sort it out somehow consistently, because drug addicts are some kind of addicted people. they are often unable to think three sentences in a row in one pipeline. he's got to write down, that is, yes, that is, it's

literal. here it collects the letter. uh, brains uh, such people, yes, that is, to work with all these dependencies. here are the texts of the letter - this is one of the most powerful practices, these are these analyzes and so on. and it seems to you that the life of faith, that it is tragic, because, for example, i see that he is incredible, lucky in the first place, despite his abuses. he lived to be 83 years old. died. this heart attack, which was rather unexpected , even experienced by his son, and then he never went to prison. although in america those years. well, it's actually in the books. yes, it is persecuted. they were all in prison, but i take the hut. prisons a and the most interesting thing is that he killed his wife. that is , it was accidental through negligence, but how to see whether it was accidental or not, because he had a quarrel with her in front of friends. she

humiliated him by saying that he was a bad hunter. he does not know how to shoot, and he decided to prove that he knows how to shoot. i mean, he killed his own wife, but uh, thanks to his rich family, about which i have already mentioned, he managed to escape. uh, punishment and perhaps morally he experienced, this is because he said that this is an experience and made writing out of it or what, he began to write precisely after this event that he experienced, but nevertheless. it can be said that the man, uh, did not bear almost any responsibility and even his literary experience. and now he becomes a classic and becomes famous. that is, even at six. that year , a massachusetts court found that his the naked lunch book is a literary work, and not something obscene at all, because the book was banned

at one time, er, but at the trial it was acquitted for it was entered from er. norman mailer. alan gisberg. john chardy. this is a fluff writer. they acted in defense, in general, of their comrade. well, you can say the opponent. you understand that in literature does not happen. yes , such close friends are more like competition. well , that's what they all said. i read the minutes of the court, everyone said that this is a unique piece of work, a unique artistic method. oh, and american society. let's put it this way , it can't do without e, this look without this language, which i introduced to beru, that is. in general, whether he is lucky or not, you know, here i am, as an artist, after all. yes, that is, uh, i experimented a lot with different media yes, this is called art techniques, that is, electronic modern art and some actions and some kind of theater and painting, yes, and painting, whatever.

and when i started writing lyrics. that's actually, somehow i began to realize myself. how exactly is the lyricist? i understand such a moment that literature is, let's say, from the point of view of the creative media, yes, that is, from the point of view of the creative material, this is the only practically absolute freedom, as it were, a method. that is, according to the classics, firstly, it does not require money to create , there is only you and in fact. yes, secondly , nothing can happen at all. that is, i can now go climb up from the ceiling on foot to bring a diamond from there, and that's all. here, i have now painted a whole story in painting. it's all there in the movies. this you are all for yourself. the place where you can do this is animation, but this is also other labor costs, and this is this and this is the incredible availability of literature, the power of these images that you can create like this. and this, of course, cannot be compared in

terms of creativity. m-m freedom of creativity. yes, freedom e creative expression in any comparison, of course, does not go. so you're always doing some kind of 2d art. or there, like a raccoon, you always come across some interpretations on restrictions, yes, on restrictions on interpretation on distortions. and here you are directly in plain text. how would you say cutting, how did you think of it all, that is, this is a perfect format, and in this sense, as if the birch was lucky that he, as it were, immediately began to engage in this art. only later, by the way, oh, not only writers, he painted pictures. tell me about it. well, yes, then here's five. fifth sixties arose a huge galaxy of american artists and abstract expressionists. it's there jackson paul shortly. well, there is a whole one . these are the authors who are now worth hundreds of millions of dollars there, and then they immediately

began to build good money. i take a dream to draw such rather primitivist pictures, mostly on boards on some, and then, uh, all of her used to shoot them with holes. yes, they are all shot. and by the way, in a paradoxical way. here it is in moscow, as it were, they don’t know, but in st. petersburg , for example, one of these paintings is permanent from the position of the russian museum in the frame palace, i saw. yes, and there was even such a very funny moment when i studied the second book. i am now describing this episode there, when i studied at the russian museum, then art history. there is such a alexandrovich borovsky there is a wonderful art critic. such a director of the department, we are teachers and somehow we go to him, and there are some paintings there, i look like that, there is alexander comrade. what is it? the painting is right there. well, there are two 2.70 basques there, there is a picture there, something like a picaso, it’s worth it in a pack, so in this and some kind, the board is peeled off. i say this

in general, that yes dumberus. and me just already at that moment. i have already stopped using it, i prescribed all these mine. it just gives me away and i've made contact. e with a birch tree from his material art is correct for one hole. it's invisible there. i recorded my feelings there from behind, as if i were taking the passage of a finger through the pictures. yes, that is, uh. as a matter of fact, he produced quite a lot of these pictures. they are. uh, in many museums there is something like that, and i really liked it too, like this, uh, i was there too all like that at dawn, so to speak, some kind of artistic career, and i really liked the creative method, that it’s like a person draws and writes books and films are shot there, there he does some kind of video ard and collaborates with rockers in no file form. such a media format

of creativity is very close when you are, as it were, the center of your own creativity, by the way, that's what you call performativity correctly, when your life becomes the object of your art. therefore, you can do once there is such concept that life is like art life. like a work. that is, there you have a historical one, how would your canvas be here. that is, it's stupid, because why do they buy some paintings for expensive, there is some kind of orchal, because this is the same orkle, because there is a whole life. wow. and a legend. here in this episode of life. he painted this picture there was with that one, then frankly there. that is, you buy this story, but what is history? this is a text, that is, it is some kind of you think after all main direction. eh, berouz's work was literature, right? well, of course, but these paintings are such artifacts, yes, along with this, this is merchandise merchandising, that is , for the album cover, in my opinion, one of his paintings, because when you get such

wild popularity, you get there, in general - then a t-shirt and that's it. these are also birches. i think there were also t-shirts and some kind of hats, these are some kind of collectibles. there, too , you could somehow jackets. there are his trademarks. there are some coincidence people, which are dear to me, my heart cannot bear to see our katya. do you want me to be able to influence them? relationships in a woman's relationship cannot be rivalry. i have always loved you to give love. fortuna loves you ekaterina loves orlov

received a position at court. i hope the world turned upside down understand the queen of others. i don't need such meetings, they can ruin you . and you are ready to die with me . the great from june 13 on the first, what should i do to decide these actions?

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