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these residents on these konovalov pushers are more flint than hipsters, by the way, the word hipster is also used by beros, but not in the sense that the beatniks were actually hipsters to the fact that now now we use this word in a slightly different meaning then. it was a man who was in the subject. well, that's what you're talking about, uh, these are inhabited, that he was friends and communicated with the inhabitants. he perceives them. eh, as equals. although we understand that he came from a completely different environment. and so he starts hanging out with some, well, just bandits. delnikov starts stealing and well in general, and at the same time, uh, there is no sense of any hierarchy. i have a feeling. here is some kind of equality of partnership and brotherhood. let yes man be a wolf to understand that in this situation, probably, there can be no friends when everyone is hunting. yes, for some drugs, and most importantly - this is a drug, but nonetheless. i have a feeling that this is some kind of
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magical world. uh, bra- fraternal or not? i 've seen quite a few uh kids. these are the rich parents. uh, they come in good cars, there is a worse car in a week a week later, the car is really bad. yes, in this new scammers. well, it depends on how parents support, well, in general. yes , of course, that is, uh in this among the use. there, in general, there is only one hierarchy. that is, there you have it, you don’t have it, that is, if you have it. the king is god, and everyone loves you and all your friends don’t have you . nobody really needs you there. you know this, and as if the only thing there is somehow there, you can somehow credit something in debt there, it’s the very thing to crawl, so it’s like there, these things they erase, as it were, then there are some social hierarchies being lost. well, yes, rich educated. well, there are rich, so you have.
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and this means that you, if you were rich yesterday, and, as it were, i 'm sorry , is it educated or not? well, as it seems to you, i take from here, choosing. uh, this experience, making it his literary material, and he consciously went into living life in an extreme, dangerous way. coming out dry from the water. wherein. i i think that in the case i take it for junk, just at the beginning of this novel. it more or less describes. i think that after all, but he was just so young in weight, yes, a worker, yes, well, few work, people love. ah , that is, well, you know that it's me, too, for example, to consider that i don't work either, but as a result, it turns out that you write books, you suffer. there you carry these pictures all the time back and forth. something is always busy
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with something. that is, uh, therefore, these are people who often do not want to work, no matter how they understand that they will have to work all their lives, i’ll get a lot of writing , i had to work, of course, yes, yes. if i would go back like that, i think that it was still a young weight and such. here, as if he received some strange experience, apparently , and most likely ended up several times somewhere on the verge of life and death, and he was cut through, as if now he would just die and that’s it, well, at the same time, there was still the guy is such, as if well-read there with some kind of subtle obviously yes perception, yes, that is, well, as if some fragile things perceived subtle things there perceived, tracked it all, of course, he was greatly frightened by this prospect of dying. eh, in such a senseless. well, somehow he decided to deal with it. and so i think this is it. that's how roman junky became such an important over-effort. for him. we can say that this is
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such literature. eh, somehow promotes this way of life or fascinates? or so to speak draws in or rather vice versa? experience shows that those people who generally, in principle, read, of which there are few of them. exactly they have a chance, that is, they have something formed there, some higher nervous activity, some dreams , maybe they are delusional, but they have nothing to lose, they are easy-going, if a person has some kind of dreams on the cortex , some desires to become someone. i don't know how it will take place or some kind of adventure in life . it is, in principle, any, no matter how useful it is, if it is also thematic. rather, it is positive, i.e. junk to me when i read it the first time i used it. for me , it worked for me. here is the consumption and the effect of the fact
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that, as it were, uh, here's the dude, everything is the same, but he took the book and wrote it. that is, it consists stimulated. yes, that is, but i, and i'm sitting here sitting, here some begging here something there is the same thing. i live some kind of boring completely dull monotonous life, in fact this book is about a feat, that is, yes, because these are all autofiction novels in which, uh, the author is there or the characters, he survives these are books about feat about the feat of a person in front of himself, because a person he rebels against himself, it turns out his vicious part. yes , who owns it. yes, and yet he is completely lost state. he doesn't know what to do with all those who are physically destroyed, and for all the society is destroyed. he already stole from everyone there. who can have anything, that is, uh, garbage lies e not thought for months, as he himself describes hmm yes and somehow it's all
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put together into something to process into a clear text. well this is this is something not well, that is, this field is real, this is not a normal state for even an ordinary person, passing through the experience of writing you get, you awaken some kind of critical consciousness right in the cord. what are you there? it's not just that it doesn't mean you don't find it, and you build yourself, in fact. doing some new connections. but tell me, but i take it, what is its peculiarity, because there is actually a lot of literature like jan to literature, but why exactly burroughs, you can say? why is this an artistic approach? why a his prose has artistic value, and not just the value of the experience described. i assume that by writing this junk here. he realized that it really could be a success, that he, maybe he likes it, that it's better than there, how he lived there, or and so
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on. yes, that is, and he went on. then he began to explore, and already more. i think the junk is there. well, here, literary, there is some kind of contribution there. he's not like that. it’s kind of big, but if, for example, in connection with junk, there’s a naked breakfast, yes, that is, in the naked breakfast, he will absolutely help his work, and he uses there, uh, mosaic. yes, and some kind of here he is in all such, it fits so well, but what is it? this is essentially research . here, as it were, here is the transgressive experience of the writer. that is, when you had something internal , something happened there, a typewriter. i don't know the paint , and it became something that's internal, it became something of a part. yes, the landscape is there, uh part of the epizazhes is part of the cultural landscape. that is , uh, and this is precisely this moment of transition, when by turning a writer, this
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creative energy comes out. somehow it is refracted and splashes out there on canvases and on paper. it was precisely this psychedelic and creative moment that he tried to analyze it in a naked breakfast, to be honest, it is not very clear. why is it necessary? because it is more or less individual more or less for everyone. that's pretty much what happens. that is, well, he wrote. well, he did it, it wasn't written. he did it. this book is so niche. so i think, that is, this is a book that should have been written by someone in the film adaptation of the gron. berg removed. uh, some tlunch movie. e. here. i last looked even there are two or three organizations. that is, such a cultural wave still went from him, and what do you think, here are the followers, yes, and the tattered lsh hunter thompson there, you think they scooped up the choice, after all, he was honest i say.
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but i would share, that is. eh, i'm taking it. these are people with this experience. but hunter thompson is an alcoholic. uh, who for some reason wrote about what he is very, very well incredibly love, but i love him not for that. that is, e me, uh, to be honest, hunter thompson uh or uh, and here is a naked breakfast, just here i rather, unfortunately , maybe even mold more countertoms, but these are such writers about the frenzy there what - something there, and there somewhere to run. there is something there all the time. there. actually. they are not about some kind of addiction experience and not about some kind of experience. that is, it is some. well, such, as it were, the novels of some burnt dude's clips. i mean, to be honest, hmm kinda i don’t want to say that, but i will say this senseless book about nothing, it is russian
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literature. e. the beatniks influenced, the berouz influenced, we can say, well, here is our favorite, by the way, eduard and animinovich limonov. yes, with this edichka of his, he arrived absolutely in the seventies, in the freshest form he scooped up this russian, so to speak, literary consciousness, scooped up this beatnik drive, so to speak, and managed to rethink it. here is a vedicka. yes filter, yes and run it into russian culture into russian luda great russian literature and this, by the way, turns out to be incredibly refreshing, and the manner of auto-fixing is this one. uh, how like such a kind of dogma? yes, that is, as an endless development of a novel of some kind, that is, all these, of course, are methods that were transmitted through lemon into russian literature. i think that, to be honest, we are only at the beginning of such a long journey of russian literature that we are now saying that there are still chances. you know how many years ago you
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see with surprise the inscription found some articles somewhere, so many here these literary critics started, so they were ironic that auto-fiction went, as if in russia. listen, i hear a lot of criticism towards art-fiction. however , it is completely meaningless is a criticism, because, but there are some well there is a cultural wave. yes, this is the actual one, and you can't do anything about it. just again, someone will be talented to do it, someone will do it badly. what a historian of the art of modern medicine. i have another version such that we are generally doomed to autofiction, the next 100-200 years. uh, just now, in general, it seems to me that this is such a great literature, especially a large literary form. she is in some kind of such. if not for autofiction, it would be in a big crisis, but, in principle, no one reads novels for a long time. now everyone is more interested in the short form, in my opinion, the short short form and the form that relies on some kind of reality. that is, now we are not now
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seeing, for example, on television a huge number of these reality shows, they even all go out of fashion, but they all go out get out go out but can't get out. so i think that the future lies in all memories of biographies. but the autofish of people is just stretching and paying in rubles, because it's real, because you really learn something there on the one hand. eh, on the other hand. it can be interesting somehow, if it's interesting, how stylishly interesting, tasty there i apologize for this word it is written there, then it will be consumed accordingly, because people will not be some kind of distant terminological things. and when a person is there, here, i know him there. i gave you the words. here it is, it turns out that there it comes, and now i also see popularity, it was big in the fifties. in general, one can say that you are an innovator and a pioneer of this approach to
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creativity in general, when you take your experience, all the more shameful, yes, some kind of negative and just it, open it honestly and show it from your own face. and as you say. eh, a person who understands eh feels that this experience is real me i am after all. well, i probably wouldn’t call him directly a navator in this, but he is, really. yeah, he made it a classic, you know. well, i would say so, it’s not that he came up with it, but he already hit it in such a way that, no matter how you screw it up, because by and large, there’s quite a lot of auto-fix of memories. that is, different in every way, there are all sorts of qualities i have, yes, from everything, but he did it, really talented. firstly, yes, secondly, this is an interesting period of history, he managed to capture a slice of this fiftieth, and in america , some of these bikers before hippies. we suddenly we find out that there was some kind of underground
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, some people lived there somehow. i mean, it's exactly like that. here is another historical moment. here auto-fixation has a lot of pluses. i say if it's well written, plus it's historically interesting, it's a character. interestingly, the author is an interesting character, that is, there immediately goes a chain of some kind, it fits right away to some other people a novel of that time there with a memory of others is like, in fact , the universe of these autofishes and memories is like, here she will give literature. i'm thinking some extra, maybe after some time an extra tug of the mod, because i'm generally expecting. i expect a cultural explosion , new literary fashion, it will not be so supermassive, but, but i can see it directly, it's all spinning in the air. these are literary clubs on topics. eh, and it will be right. that is, it is there, because people's brains are destroyed. yes, it's all already
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clear to everyone that literature and texts are something. well, the book is the only thing that can somehow include everything? how to collect or some, studying brain. they say that it is the reading of the letter that is direct, yes, that is, to development. no, we see literature has several reasons to return. so seriously, as if this is the most without jokes. that is, this media is very serious. this is a very serious tool, i just know from my own experience, and this, that is, the hardest, can pull out dependencies. and if there is a certain method for me with this, there are even some there, yes, they consult there and they combine there. some kind of gymnastics with well, a literary text work, it is the main one anyway i will and i know. i know people's resistance. i know people resist. so to speak to this tension of the brain. they do not want to read and write. that is, you still need to devote your life to consumption.
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if then they are completely dependent on their own sources of income there, and consumption there. they completely live in this, how to say, second brain, there in the limbic system. yes, and these books, they are such people, in general, they probably irritate, that is, because there is just going on there, such a direct criticism, limbic system. is it good to consume, is it good to eat 20 loaves of bread a day? well, you're used to it, but it's great. you love it. it's bread there or 20 pieces, you weigh 300 kg there. well, that is, you have it destroyed there. well, it's good, come on, we'll round it up already. i want you to get answers to questions. here. he is lucky , he is a scoundrel scoundrel. that's why he came out of all this horror so handsomely and became a star. and what do you think, maybe this miracle happened so that we can see some path that he made is undoubtedly
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lucky and he was born lucky and somehow carried him already. well, like, well, on the other hand, here are ours. well, for some reason he killed it incomprehensibly there he got off something good, but you might be out of luck. or him with it. maybe i don't think so. i think that anyone else like this who has gone through a hard experience and somehow survived and succeeded. but now it's shorter, vesuvius lucky or the person, uh, who did it. yes, it's probably just not in this discourse. yes, it's like this moment how could a person leave such a past and create a new one. yes , because it’s all to pick out in yourself and redo. it is a pain. incredible. it's not some switch to switch. it's like a long retraining of habits there, that's all. equally, i think that it’s not completely certain that you will somehow change completely right there, because it’s not necessary, but if
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you say, and that’s it, i take it, they consider him evil. and it seems to me that just when you're like after all these alterations yourself you are not something to become angry. well , you seem to look at people a little with such condescension that you are such a good joke for you. well, nothing like that. in general, not knowing, that is, for a person. maybe there really can be some kind of injury, and moreover, there really is. destroy a man 'cause you know what you're made of. you and how you were made. and what did you have to overcome and you see that a person has it, and he naively runs barefoot across russia in that direction and you tell him, you know there is a hole, there will be an abyss he doesn't listen there. well, i think that you didn’t have this, you’re a fool as a result, then you go and look, well, he’s sitting in a hole. there, as it were , the minister came to the beret and said that he was terribly grumpy, grouchy, animated
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only when they talked about his petunias in general a writer. i know that's how it is with the character of hmm, not everything, as it were, is golden. why because it's getting old, you know? that is, all this has already experienced everyone, you understand? already survived all the times . well, he grew up, and you survived them. that is. well, somehow this is all, it seems to me that they are spoiling character. thank you very much for the conversation. it was a must read. i am a purulent batnikov director to write, i was visiting an artist to write or how old is kirill shamanov, we talked about creativity or we take a rose. the creative industry podcast on channel one is still with you, your favorite presenters roman
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karmanov elena kiper and visiting us today , i didn’t even have legs all day, to be honest, from fear of contact with the super legend people’s artist of the russian federation artistic director oleg tabakov moscow theater vladimir mashkov hello it's very pleasant in april, in my opinion, on the 23-24th it will be 5 years as its director. will there be separate celebrations on this occasion, prompted me to this idea lives here and now, therefore , such decisions can be made there very spontaneously. the fact is that i was lucky with me. over the years, the team has grown. which helps. not for me, but for the theater to exist at the proper level carefully
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focused consciously, that is, these five years this happiness is greater than this unconditional happiness. this is happiness, knowledge, education of oneself, education by one's own personal example. in general, we have a lot of activity , we have done a lot, our team has done a lot, because we have not just a theater. oleg pavlovich tabakov who created our little basement theater he created it with the theater studio at the palace of pioneers 40 guys, then 10 stayed and so on entered gitis. and so life began, then a basement appeared, then it appeared. after 30 years, at the end of his life, oleg
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pavlovich a new building and we are in development and but the basics the fact is that oleg pavlovich opened a theater school, uh, 10 years ago , which uh existed as a college, his dream was for the guys to study in it early. this is the dream of educators. you know, it seems artistic to me, and the period of a professional's life must begin around the age of 15 , because this is the most emotional time that we actually achieved. now we don’t have a college, because after college our guys have to do it again at the theater institute. they are ready. they come out ready entertainers coming out of them. they are required to be on stage before leaving the theater school.
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you know, an artist grows on stage with his partners, this is a collective activity, therefore, this moment of going out and working with professional actors gives birth to him, and you know, and we have achieved, but to spend 8 years for a person on training, well, firstly , this is for the state. it seems to me that this is true for the artist as well, so we proposed a new experimental program and prepared it. she so called it is an integrated program of secondary general and higher education. we are recruiting guys all over the country, all the teachers themselves, acting actors of the theater, just get on the plane themselves and the groups flew to the cities; there were 3,000 young guys from kaliningrad to vladivostok. we have a lot of
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information, and the guys who are interested in this activity enter. naturally we have 24 seats. a little. uh, and thanks to moscow , these educational institutions are free of charge on the full provision of moscow come to us after the ninth grade and after 5 years of study receives a diploma of higher education. this is the earliest acting education that has already existed in this format for a year. eh, experiment. we have to confirm in a year. the fact is that every year 600 artists are released in the country in many ways , even in our theater they are shown
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. because a lot of paid courses have appeared , it’s impossible to train an artist for a fee, as a rule, artists are people. low-income because psychophysics is organized in a different way , it was you who said the very precise word passion, without which it is impossible to comprehend this profession. look at the actors. please tell me, i myself became interested in this once, and what is the difference between an actor and an artist? now we have to make surprised yes has no idea. well, there are probably many different versions. it seems to me
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that fanzim gave an exceptionally accurate one. he said actor. this is a talented performer. artist - this is an artist-creator, exactly who releases our higher education then is different. it is the same and always in general in this activity it is very difficult to say what we are doing there, and we are churning out talents. it's impossible talent is a timid thing. it is like a fire if you feed it your passion with a passionate relationship to your work. it won't flare up. for my activity of watching the guys listening carefully, i do not have such a thing that you lose consciousness from the talents of a person, on the contrary, you try to break it all for him and see his sincerity. just
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talk about how attentive he is, how well his orienting reflex works, how mobile he is, how he hears. here and from this from all the impression is created and further this moment is very important. eh, a teacher in this sense is a teacher, as soon as the student opens the door, he enters himself and he must enter swiftly, swiftly, comprehending, especially our school. she is his face, different, we demand we have a method. uh, we've got a lot of work going on. uh, for which i am grateful to moscow state university and uh psychology. e, yuriy petrovichanchenko, who oversees our project and how the two are moving in this direction. how to find the most important? the point of the artist's sensual attention, if the experiment is considered successful, which i personally have no doubt what will happen next, and then
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we will continue our activities, four people will turn into 240. look, we are recruiting 24 people. as practice has shown, on the course that we have the fourth and will become the fifth, there are 11 children left, and on the second, which will become the third, 12. and what it happened? they made a wonderful return to school . many of them, in my opinion, the vast majority entered the theater school institutes. you see, we have, in this sense , we have them very busy with work and all the time. you need to accumulate a lot of skills, a lot of knowledge, and we have a lot of subjects that other theatrical educational institutions don’t have. therefore, they simply can’t stand it,
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or something, some of them can’t stand it, if we don’t see desire and development, you understand at the age of 15 they come, guys. why is it very common ? sometimes people don't even understand at 20. why are they in artists went this desire interest passion. no, no, understanding her, because she, first of all, what they think carries , yes, the glory of fame, so since it ’s such a burning flame, of course, fly there and moths and different bugs all go. but who can stand it, then, uh, sometimes you know how people act suddenly act, who did not want to act. what if a talent opens up in them, because the artistic warehouse of character, in principle, is inherent in every person. when did you decide that you are an artist? how
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did it happen? well, i'm so unusual for a person who got into the theater is fate. i just grew up in a family of artist directors. my mother was a director of the puppet theatre, an amazing director, and my father was an actor in a brilliant puppet theater. we lived first in tula, then in frunze, then in novokuznetsk, and this theater was on my head. i didn't like it very much. because, firstly, they argued in the evening and this conversation about how pinocchio or karabas-barabas went the wrong way or it was more than that, it was all at such a level of passion, of course, at first. this didn’t frighten me even as a child, so i was adapted to do my own thing. i really liked it. biology was engaged in bugs there and then, when i became older, i realized that i was not studying very well on the other hand. i was a vagit brigade and we
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had a huge success. i played guitar and sang songs. in general, what you need to do in the theater. i went to act. uh, got ready with the guitar clap me. i received some kind of spectator prize, that is. in general, what kind of biology is biology here, i went to krasnoyarsk to the institute. i drove in desperation passed. further to novokuznetsk there was a theater school, novosibirsk i ended up with a shortage of boys, and there i quickly got my bearings already, as soon as you get there, if you are passionately attentive, you have a great desire, and you quickly orient yourself. let's go back to the present in the nineteenth year. you, in general, said that the electricity was over. i’m leaving the cinema , in general, and i didn’t have any in general , how many, well, it turns out 4 years and the film the challenge and
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you are back in the frame, well, yes, it worked out. that's how i don't wish, you know, when big artists they say we’re leaving there, and then they come back here to eat, right? in this, right? well, yes, in this sense , maybe it falls into this category, maybe of course, but hardly, because, uh, when i began to deal directly with schools and the theater. and i just realized that here it is necessary to increase the knowledge of my capabilities and strength and energy intensity, a multiple not up to the cinema already. well, yes, not at all up to the cinema, but you see, it happened. well, uh, they offered me and just had the opportunity to advance much and had the opportunity to plan, when you saw script for the first time here or call. we love call stories. yes, the producer called the producer. konstantin lvovich
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