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irina skosareva put to music, so today we can say the premiere premiere of the song unnecessary letter alexander vertinsky music irina dear friends. we are inviting to the screen all those who have been turned away by all those who bear in their souls pain that does not grow. come don't be afraid. we will be friends to both of us. it's time to take a break from love, because you didn't return it with any words or tears. laugh
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and the troupe of the dance orchestra in the big casino. eh, and for your sad childish lips we will drink golden wine at night, we will drink golden wine at night, and we will not disturb love with words. this dead flame is no longer growing, because you and what dreams and what verses of love will not return. seryozha
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, even without being a musicologist, we can even say that the composer had enough, the main melodic tricks, but too feminine alexander nikolayevich wrote a more masculine melody to the rest, the melody of the kuvertinsky should be defended as a dissertation in music academies. it was very manly, and the woman did well, dear friends. it is also impossible that the image of vertinsky as he is would not be present at our meeting today. that is , nikolaevich, as i understand it, among people of admirers, see how these photographs are presented. what loving eyes are here. uh, the museum to this is called the history of russia for that we are immensely grateful, dear friends, but this is probably. its battery is permanent,
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i was familiar, by the way, with the widow of mikhail borisovich brochis. she passed away at just 97 years old. it was absolutely amazing for such humor. uh woman. nina ivanovna means, and when i turned 95 years old. i call her and she says, seryozha if you behave yourself. i'll invite you to my table, or rather ivanovna. let's look for something else, we don't have notes. here we are filming something. yes, maybe let's dig a little on the lockers, says no, there is nothing. okay, let's open the lockers. there are two notebooks. well, here is what mikhail borisovich is written. well, of course, i photocopied all this very thing when it passed away. her stepson, the son of mikhail borisovich , says sergey, i want to give them to you and
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gave me these poster notes and even i bought a piano from him rushed. it's worth it to me, for sure. these notes, the result of a joint work on the arrangements of the omentum of the lord , look what impeccable taste in clothes alexander nikolaevich if you say that it's just given. no, it's not just like that, and you can see a person who is absolutely chekhovian in everything. i would like to be a little higher than the horizon, which, alas , was not near. here's another interesting thing, of course, that this is an eternal problem connected, of course, with the ladies i'm starting. i'll tell you even with madame bavarian. this is the female image that i would be looking for .
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may not be the goal, there is no meaning of life, but for some it is the way it is. but today this lady is writing about it, and quite openly. but then vertinsky, seryozha , found this very interesting work alexander nikolaevich i think it is very modern. she's crazy today, modern - it's just on the sheet. i would say san nikolaevich wrote the song dance in girl about a girl who works, of course, it's clear where she entertains men. uh, about the women in restaurants. but he writes what happened before that, what she was before that and who she has become. today, this song, by the way, he tested it on these very data youz, uh, it was written in china in shanghai. so they sobbed after this song, like chaplis on trying their films on children will be where to laugh tactical tried their song. and now we are dear friends to you. i think she
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just sounds new to you, she is unknown. but maybe that's what we're here for. i know who else is who the majority, of course, for the first time. that's bullshit. this is a dream. this is a dream of the past. sweet. fog. this is youth, a white bird that has flown away. in the gymnasium, the saturday church choir sings so loudly spring. you are already in love and your
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heart is excitedly waiting for someone. and when someone puts out the golden lamps with a tired hand from the high church fence. he alone escorts home both in spring and love, we excite your hands with cold cake. oh how sweet to give kisses, huh? then relax from the side porch with him to swing in the garden on a swing without end without end without end. ah, this is nonsense. and this is a dream
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go ivanovna to the bath. need to know. that's what it does from start to finish in one sitting. ra freedom of freedom expression of oneself one person said, you love your place so much. your eyes are shining, and i understand. here there was a point of contact, where i became part of this land of the altai woman on the day of russia on the first dan, here the female image is the center of the whole conversation about love, but now we are on the side where we should be able to quarrel with the lord. hiding your masculine resentment from the received refusal is no secret that it comes in handy
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much more often in our amorous affairs than the ability to tastefully celebrate a victory. see how gracefully it does. vertinsky, of course, sarcastically. this is a sugary sweetness for you, you understand the love for a woman, when someone declares his boundless in front of the people. eh, you mean like this? well, how to say love admiration, yes. well, he's probably lying, he's probably hiding something. here vertinsky avoids it. and at the same time, see how it went wrong. here now seryozha comrades-in-arms will sarcastically describe something interesting for you. i now think that the lady who, of course, offended the genius, but look how high and subtly he teases her, you know the liver. dima's song is also absolutely modern today
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, i read it somewhere on the internet and someone laid out this song by the bones, says, look at this line. this is today, wait. today is absolutely about today, uh. well, forgive the younger generation, dear friends, we must go. what is your name for the commonwealth troupe with actors and musicians golden lion, and we are playing our performance of the avertinsky yellow tango at the bulgakov theater where the bulgakov museum in moscow in st. petersburg is, of course, in the basement of a burgundy dog. this is a historical place where alexander nikolaevich repeatedly visited, where, er, he threw bottles that flew to mayakovsky and threw them back. that's all, so here's a stunningly perfect place with the energy of the rabid and in st. petersburg. we still play in the house of journalists. and so here's the lesson. i would say a noble, but sarcastic attitude towards lady on the part of a genius and on the part of the eternal teacher of a russian person in the field of feelings in
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the field of ethics. we were told the genderman of ethics. well, in the area. how do you say high mental intelligence? here is the heart of intelligence? i would say so. listen when a person is in love. eh, stew, you know, he doesn’t need lessons, right from the very inspiration carries this. and you show me how you break up with a lady. here i will say, but how you are brought up. mm, sincerely and heartily, this is what the song is about now, which is now songs oho short story, which will now be performed by seryozha together with his colleagues. and i would like to wish. all the best to you less love dramas and more love ups. follow the posters sergei fedotovsky on channel one. all
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the best. let me introduce you once again, irina skosareva with the author of the play, yellow tangos, by the way, will be without irina. true, the performance would not take place. and that just didn't work. it just didn't work out. yes, since we have this performance together, more than this performance, a very interesting story. in general, he was begged from above and i went to church and asked every day that a that this performance be and it turned out. here alexander nikolaevich favors us . judging by the way people accept him with pleasure, moreover, of different social strata of ages, the fact that vertinsky addressed to each of them is important to a small person. he loved people also because his father was a lawyer and helped the poor, and somehow he died, and there he went after the poor people,
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and this grace through vertinsky that its father was that kind of person now song refined or refined which do you like a woman better? is it possible to demand a lot from a woman? are you dancing so cute? you are, chic does not expect strict behavior from you, does not interfere with anyone. your husband is old. just don't play puzzles. and make from life. it's all nonsense, and your decency. this is also a flirtatious leaf. with
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lover one student lives, your hats and dresses are distributed more often. and you, bitch, hand over the museum of applied arts, and then i'll stitch him together, we'll drag ourselves to buy you a coffin. lilac is it possible to demand a lot from a woman where stupidity is divine? hello this is a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist, natalya loseva and my co-host
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, clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, unravel the labyrinths of psychological problems of tasks. well, different these are the downloads of our beautiful heroes. today we will talk about the divorce of our heroine, the famous singer natalya vlasova also experienced a divorce 5 years ago. i went through a very difficult divorce. the most tragic painful situation in my life. it seemed to me that everything just collapsed, that is, all life stopped at the moment. i believe that it was the most correct thing that heaven could send, but you know, one amazing moment remained. for example, i can drive up to the house where we lived for 15 years, right? and suddenly, and this is completely uncontrollable, i start to sob. just here it is. i just get hysterical. it is very rarely by accident. well, once every six months, maybe somewhere i can't
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explain why i'm crying. why because, because i am aware that everything is much better now and we are great friends and so on, but you know, this is the feeling that the feeling is not there, you know, uh, what, there could be in a different way, or you know, here is such a moment that everything is of course. how old were you when we met we met, when i was 20 you were already on stage at that moment, and you know , almost only i shot a video for the song. i'm at your feet, literally. after 3 days we met my husband. my future husband, so i had 20, he was 25. and you are just children. yes, he didn’t know any of the artists at all except alexander rosenbaum, my oleg mityaev, so the fact that i’m there , she’s everything that’s not there at all, we met in st. petersburg and he and i were born there, and he was engaged in a simple business
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that had nothing to do with the show - business here, ah, but we had love at first sight. you know, it was such an amazing feeling when a psychologist says what it's called, when you know, when you look into your eyes, and you can't look. look, you think, now he will notice, he will notice that i am not indifferent to him. but, well, sort of, yes, that is, it's impossible not to count, and it seems that you'll just cut everything. i'm this myself this is my most beloved. you know, when i don't even have flirting. this was once in a lifetime. it was with my husband. this amazing. that is, i, for them, got acquainted with you puffed, passion is love, and you soon got married. yes, we lived 20 years together 20 years a month. we have a 16 year old daughter. yes , and the last 3-5 years there, relations have become so complicated. hmm. well, that is, we
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just became strangers, that is, we had nothing to talk about at all. that is , he ah did not accept my er, well, in general, he never liked it. this is show business. that's all that takes a woman from the family. well, as it were , these trips, well, in general, everything, that is, he such an introvert hmm, that is, he does not go anywhere at home, where there are a lot of people, that is, my whole lifestyle. this is the complete opposite of how he wanted to see his life, but it happened. it's crazy love it took 20 years for you to understand that you understand, at first crazy love. she, uh, compensated for everything, that is, the person abandoned his business. he followed me from st. petersburg to moscow, he did what he didn’t like, because he believed that i was writing brilliant songs, and he simply had to. well, that is, that's how it happened, still respected what you are doing, of course, he is a man whom i found at night when he thought that everyone was sleeping
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sitting in the hall. fireplace listening to my songs under the piano and thinking, in general, over all this, that is, he will be the main like-minded person in the world. that is, roughly speaking, when no one could believe in me, he could give the last money for us to record a song in the studio. i remember very well the time when they stole from him all his business in st. petersburg and we lived only for a day on the money that she brought, well, our business with him. well, that is, mine and he helped me in everything and i remember that there was a situation when we broke a piggy bank to buy food, but at that time we recorded 5 songs in the studio. well, recording in the studio is very expensive, of course, and there have never been questions that , perhaps, otherwise, and then we came to the moment 7 years later, when daughter was born. and here it is, that is, the daughter was born after 7 years.
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after we got married also after 7 years, because we we didn't get married before, that is, when i got pregnant, we decided formalize the relationship, and we signed and but by this moment he was already in yours, in fact, a business partner. well, yes, that is, we were some others and there were some companies. you know, when we moved to moscow in 2000, and our daughter was born in 2006. ah. we periodically tried to collaborate with different labels, but let's put it this way. we didn't get it all right. well, to the point where i got pregnant, we came to, uh, hmm, with the fact that he realized that show business was not his at all. well, that is, he can't seem to find out how to live with him, because he is an extremely decent person who doesn’t understand what such a word gave. tomorrow he gave up. there, some of these things are completely impossible, so he all understood that he had gone into some other business. yes, he just started a new business in moscow from scratch. and i gave birth to a child, and 2
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weeks after the birth, i already performed and that's it. he didn't care for me anymore. only such an adviser at home, yes, but he could, well, he certainly helped me, there is money there, clips , some kind of clip to shoot and so on. even though i'm there 10 years, did not shoot anything at all, in some period, gradually, gradually, we came to a point 15 years after the beginning of our relationship, in which we simply had nothing in common, since he did not travel. me for any of my business. he did not attend my concerts at first because he was worried, and then because he simply hated show business. that is, for example, i played there with valentina as a big gaft on stage for several years, he has never been on ours. well, never at concerts. uh, there i played on the stage of a musical. he too i have never been seen on stage. well, that is, that is, the last 10 years. he was nowhere for me, that is, until a certain moment you
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were connected with him by a common cause, yes, then this business flew apart, that is, only the house of life and daughters remained in common. yes, and how you made the decision to divorce, it was his initiative of your initiative, since we. and i was endlessly offended by this, well, as if indifference, to which they came. that is, i understood that and what can we discuss if i come? i have some kind of life event for me. yes, and he maybe not even ask to see which one there. what song did it end with? well, that is, well , completely you, of course, excuse me for interrupting, but for me this whole story is a huge egoism. from your side of mine, right? yeah, it means that while my husband was investing , he was running around, watching concerts, drinking all his money to the penny. you must have been with him. i'm not like that at all here. it means that he has ceased to be interested in your work, that the business and the formulations immediately began
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to have nothing in common. we have absolutely nothing to do with anything. and after that went. no, wait, as primitive as possible. yes, you can ask both. please tell me if we ourselves instead of music or show business. yes, let's say any business of life any business, i do not know the master. uh, you do this when laying out tiles in the bathroom, but from the outside, it looks like it. so i have a business of life, then my partner is obliged to participate in this business. not much. so, he went out. so what, this is an infinitely primitive such a look. no, i understand that you want very beautiful such lace to betray all this, but in fact happened. that's what. well, if you want to, you can, of course, formulate it this way. no , everything was different in my life, tell me,
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when did you start so much and he had his own business of some kind. here's yours , to be honest. here you are now, as you remember it, yes, your conversation and in the kitchen there, well, or in the car, you were driving somewhere. they mostly revolved around your interests or, nevertheless, they affected you. what he did. and you know there's a moment where he did what he did just for the money. well, that is it was not a day, uh, he can practice, as a talented person, this fifth tenth - this is not something that even he himself would like to talk about there. well, it's just business. i just don’t know where they sold, bought, sold, well, some things like that. yes, he was completely reverent about his business when he decided not, but of course he was, because he drowned all around , definitely, that is, it was his business that was stolen from him and because he drowned in what he was doing at the waist, tell me and he no doubt it was the right thing to do. he understood that he maybe either follow me to moscow or we will part. that's why the ego
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did not have a choice at all, yes, either you follow me, or we part. i didn't propose to him at all. he himself decided to make this choice. but i really did get to know each other. i already worked in moscow already, and like you go with me or he does not stay. no, no, no, it doesn't sound like that to me, i want the opposite, i went to moscow on business and on one of my trips. i arrived and, uh, found that he had moved in with me, having made the decision to live with me and be with me. that have it just completely birth. yes, 7 years before birth. but you didn’t have love , accepting this person differently than you want, not drowning in your personality, you didn’t have a sublime one, therefore, as soon as he stopped drowning in your rays. you said we have nothing in common. goodbye, psychologist appointment. usually they look, please keep this in mind natalia, i now conclude that i am doing the right thing,
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that i am not walking. i'm the only one, of course. can you tell what you don't like it, yes happy and my husband. now, after this divorce, it also feels like it’s in the minds of many people to get in, uh, well, it’s just that we have a love for both him and me, living from and with his new family and with mine, in fact, proof of your husband’s happiness. that is, now you don’t have problems, in principle, now i want to shout to the whole world, please, call, endure relationships in which there is no love. how is it possible that the work of ennio morricon is recognized by the very first note? it's about a genius, he set the direction of enyo's music and the heart was life partners sergio, came to him and
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told him what films he wants to make? i wanted him to return to the style in which he composed for serge leona. i didn't follow the rules. i enriched them, illuminated them, he was the best, everyone knew that he was my best favorite composer. and not in comparison with other film composers, but in comparison with beethoven. premiere of the documentary film this is a podcast of the psyche my co-host mikhail horst my name is natalia loseva and our guest today is the singer natalia vlasova and we are talking about divorce, i understand correctly that this path to divorce, for your
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spouse, was so you know marked by milestones of business failures. why and where does the business of failures? well, because he finished his business, which was then started in moscow with another business, which was a business here and there , he was not successful, he was not successful in show business. and when he did everything else, he was fine, of course, i knowingly clarified with you both. is it possible to transfer this situation to some other profession, because i know families of doctors who divorced because worked in the same department. yes, i know the families of teachers who divorced because they worked at the school, and we can find more. unfortunately, there are many examples when people get divorced not because they fell out of love with each other, so many marriages burn out burn out. it's just that these
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ashes turn volcanic, when a man and a woman, in addition to the love relationships of children of everyday life, also have a common job or some common work tasks , it's very correct that we stopped working together. it is glory to you lord if we continued to work together. we would never 20 did not live for years. let's go back a little more. so here. tell us about the circumstances of the divorce. i understand that, as far as i know there. there was information that there was another child. yes, it means, uh, this is the situation in which we , uh, as strangers, could not communicate with each other at all. she led to the fact that we decided to live apart, he is in the country. i didn’t know anything in the city and pelagia. well, as if it’s more convenient for dad to live outside the city, and i’m in the city and we came to the country for the weekend, everyone talked together, and then weeks
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of normality, yes, and yes, and so on. uh, 4-5 months. i did not allow the thought that it was possible, well, if there is no bad and happiness, just go get a divorce and find other people. that is, it was something incomprehensible to me. that is, i listened to the stories of others and thought about how they even do it. but this is the husband. this is the hand and foot. how can you unfasten and move on. so when we parted for him, lord, please do this, so that just here, so that i don’t know what, but just so that the whole world rolled over after 4 months. so he came and said pelageya would be a sister. that is, but god sent me what i asked him, of course, you voluntarily tell it. and now it is, as it was at that moment, my world literally collapsed. that is, i had a feeling that they just cut off a part of the heart, how it was like that, dear.
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