uh, with colleagues, he needs to listen to you. not only the voices of readers, everything is clear there. there will be those who will scream. this is the best book i have read and those who will scream that this is a terrible graphomania, in general stop writing forever. and here is the opinion of colleagues who also write support for their criticism. theirs is very important and for this they just existed before. uh, all kinds of seminars where they were going to write or and young authors under the guidance of masters. such as e snows, belenkin. uh, strugatsky well, a lot our wonderful writers there. they, under the guidance of these, er, writers, studied, sort of trained. eh, they understood what was good and what was bad. this tradition was broken for a long time for 20 years, at least. and now we have revived it, we had the first such workshop. fantastic

city of korolev near moscow and gathered 36 people from all over the country. eh, they moved in. for the first time they saw that there were the same ones nearby. uh, people who are completely passionate about this communicated during the week , they were engaged in parsing each other's texts. uh, lecturers came. i mean, it was a kind of cauldron where they were brewing, and i just saw that when they left, they are still boiling, they continue to communicate, argue, uh, show fragments to each other, i mean, they got the opportunity to communicate. i want to get to that boiling point. but how, if i just wanted to, well, that is, i did not write, i'm writing. i have a very positive attitude. but i would like it to be. well, it's hard to get there just like that, but because it really is a selection process. e and arrives people who wrote their first there is a second novel that they write. and maybe next time. let's make some really

open event. where can you come and see. and you often go out to a large audience. well, if in the format of learning to work with colleagues with young authors, then for the first time, that is, we had no. we had, of course, these kinds of events, but they were usually one-day events within the framework of some fantastic festival. uh, met , talked, discussed the work of the young authors, but as a rule, it was a short form. the stories all this lasted, there 3-4 hours, this is the maximum. well, i don't know, it's not very serious. and here it was perfect. there is an opinion that there is a deceived generation. well, this is about my age , maybe a little older, these are people who were brought up on soviet science fiction and who had, in general, a conviction formed by science fiction writers. again, that, in principle, by 2023 we will already be on other planets. and we will have a completely different

world. and now that nothing has happened but this is a phenomenon. yes how do you feel that such a generation really exists? maybe you yourself treat him the same way, but to some extent, when i was still a very young man. i ran a science fiction club. i was about 20 years old, i just corresponded by paper mail with similar clubs from other cities of the then soviet union, and i remember that when our reusable ship buran e flew, they wrote to me, well , people just wrote from some distant corners of the country what? what a holiday for them that we are beginning to seriously explore the cosmos that they were waiting for this, that is, yes, indeed . this expectation was not only among us. by the way, here is reydbury wrote. uh, literally years there, probably 10 years ago. e some article. uh

, about the fact that we should have been on mars now, we should have been living on the moon. instead, we traded everything for the fact that our mobile phones have become thinner and the screen shows more colors. i have a sample. i tried when covid came. e went to study writing. e, and before that's when i studied at the university academy and started writing the first script. and now my first script, which i put in the closet , began to come true after 2 years. this i mean that e writers are those who have the power of the word of fantasy, and this will materialize further. it’s just that you understand this , you understand it carefully, because a huge number of films have come out, and the films of the apocalypse sometimes have the feeling that it somehow begins to echo our reality. well, you know , here i can say, as a science fiction writer, uh

i can say, yes, i can really say, as a psychiatrist, that this is self-programming, that is, by writing some kind of script and outlining there some things that disturbed you. eh, apparently, since you wanted you to continue to move in this direction , both versions are quite real. so just take your pick a couple of weeks ago. uh, another one almost came true. in general, from the universe of elena hyper, news appeared that an unidentified flying object appeared over the usa, they were enthusiastically shot down in in general, but for this reason, in principle, what surprised me was that no one was very surprised by this event. somebody surprises you, in our time you already somehow imagined that the twenty-second twenty-third year is the twentieth year. they 'll turn around like this for us and can you see beyond the horizon? well, of course, i had no idea, that is, uh, the same covid.

i honestly thought that by the end of the year i didn't think it was a matter of months. but i think that by the end of the year it will resolve. i remember february e we flew from abroad, with family and saw it's just that part of the plane is sitting in deaf masks and somehow it even amused us. what a panic among people, and a week later we flew to the city of london and london gave the impression of the city of london from an american post-apocalyptic film, because everything was practically empty, we went into a huge bookstore and there were only sellers in the store. and my wife and i are no one else, and here i realized that it would be serious, but i still set aside half a year, but what was happening, but everything dragged on very much. here uh you understand, of course, you can look ahead, but the future is really a lot of options. too many different forks. yeah that is, after all, this

is our universe the universe of each person or our common one, because when we all believe in the same thing, in general, our synergy can lead. what do you think, can this lead to us, can one way or another, maybe, at least at the level of creating some kind of general psychological picture of such a general idea of ​​how the world will develop, that is, you know, this is called self-fulfilling prophecy. that is, when a person, uh, begins to predict something and follows this path himself. e with people with states with the world. this can also happen, if we continue this topic , can writers and creative people create such a reality that politicians will follow and public figures will eventually end up somewhere in very good places, but we are trying. we are really trying. i used to sit and write science fiction about epidemics. i tried, on the contrary

, to avoid this topic in every possible way. here. uh, well we we try we try we try to write. uh, good things and good sense of the future. here, uh, this is our literary workshop, for example, it was built on the fact that we teach those who are trying to create a positive image of the future. well, first of all, the future of russia, of course, our country. well, as a matter of fact, the whole world, because those who write about a nuclear war, about an epidemic, about the invasion of the planets. i do not know there the disappearance of the moon to earth. they will always find their reader, people like to be scared and write something negative. it's quite simple, but write. eh, positive things, even. utopia. this is already a challenge. unfortunately, i didn’t read it, but i watched the draft film, and there is one of

the worlds where there is no oil and gas and everything is very peaceful. well, yes, but it’s actually not that completely peaceful there, they still manage to conflict a little somehow. well, yes, i removed there from this world, neftegaz , but i decided to see what would be there, there are several such interesting worlds. e, there is the world, uh, victorious feudalism, which has developed to the present level, and so on. there the picture was quite interesting of different worlds. unfortunately, of course, in the film , it was only possible to slip along the edge, not always successfully, when your hero is born. you him like, uh, psychotherapist. well, as a psychologist, but you build it up or he himself begins to live in this world, but i usually get into it. it's ka tak, meaning, uh, i'm inventing some world some situation. uh, let's say, let's say, let's say there exists in the world. uh, passages to others

worlds to pass through which you can tell some interesting smart story. this is the spectrum book, that is, aliens have arrived and placed portals to other planets everywhere, but in order to get through you need to tell something interesting and smart. and here are the main characters. he has this ability. and so he travels between worlds. and accordingly , from this idea grows, as it were, a general framework, and then you start to add some there. well, as you know, here's, like, uh, stained glass. there is such a common stained-glass window, and then you start to fill, uh, with multi-colored glasses and it turns out some kind of picture in general. at the beginning, you need to come up with some kind of this frame, this very thin grid. which holds everything, and then put the multi-colored glasses there correctly, it will be beautiful.

he began to build his capital, where the city cannot be built at the cost of huge sacrifices, in swamps under the blows of devastating floods , a city of amazing beauty will grow , years will pass, and it will turn the life of a whole country , change the structure of power, life habits and even the appearance of its subjects thanks to to the iron will of peter the great, russia will become the only country in the world that will build a navy literally from scratch. he made paper life was bright, as true of the emperor, he would not decide to whom to transfer his population.

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their hands. for them, these universes. they are already sewn on. they know how to share. i think they can. anyway, i 'm looking. uh, for your children, for their acquaintances. i have a feeling that they are just the current generation. it treats it all calmer and healthier. eh, for our generation , this caused a little, in general, the appearance of all such conditional virtuality of the network. it was kind of a shock. many simply, as they ended up at a depth and began to choke for the next generation there, maybe born in the early 2000s, but yes. it was such a very full-fledged environment, and they dabbled in it with pleasure, but the current one is already somehow differentiated. i mean, uh, i've seen it many times that uh, kids grab. some kind of box with a board game lays out some card figures on the floor of the table. here they

play it with no less, if not much more pleasure than some network games put all their feelings. i apologize all feelings, then go there, then part the population, of course, will take advantage, but this is still very far away. and how do you yourself react to the emergence of various new products you go to explore? what is there or so in general to rebuild, i like something, i go to explore something, i reject something. something just understand that, well, i don't need it. yes, there is an interesting gadget, an interesting technology that i think, so, in fact , where will this wonderful gadget be used, specifically for me it is not needed, someone needs it, well, i try to approach it more healthy. but the universe of sergey lukyanenko is being launched in many formats. i would call it in the industries we call the creative industry and it interprets creative things uh, there are films created uh from your books.

and how to negotiate with you screenwriters and directors, how easy it is not for you to work with them, but for them to work with you, of course, you need to ask them how, because i ’ll tell you now. yes, they are a golden man, no, in fact, i always try to be understanding. uh, especially the director, because the director who we take to shoot fantasy, to some extent. well, if not a saint, then a great martyr, that is, a person who, in general, took for something very difficult and very poorly worked out for us. eh, if in the west, and even in the east, this everything has already been put on the production line of science fiction films, then in our country it is just now unwinding, but it has already gone in general. and so i am patient, as a rule, with all the failures and some of

the directors' own initiatives. hey screenwriters. you know, i'm a screenwriter myself too, i , uh, write the screenplay. basically, of course, to your things. eh, well, sometimes in a different way. there , the other day, i literally made a script for one project that was not mine. but i really like him at first. that's how i joined him. i hope that it will be done, unfortunately, i can not name anything specifically. uh-huh well , how did it happen that with all the baggage of soviet science fiction. we have squandered science fiction so much, and as a result, we are forced to catch up with it now, too , when science fiction itself is most in demand in all types of creative industries, including computer games, board games, books, films, series, everything, anything, but we have fantastic.

it was, e-e, strongly cut off from the western world from the whole huge layer of american english e, fiction, that is, thank god stanislav lem and his other masters were available there, but not all and, accordingly, when it flooded into the nineties, a huge amount of good and bad fiction. e readers. in general, i choked on it. he began to read actively our western authors for a while, abandoned our floundering. uh, many began to simply imitate, take some samples it’s good when there are worthy samples and try to work in this vein, that is, there was such a fair amount of subsidence. e, in the 2000s, the situation improved a little, firstly, our reader returned. he realized that far from everything that is written. it's good there. it turned out that after all, as elsewhere, 90. this is rubbish and, accordingly, began to look at our authors, who still write about our people

. in our reality, i realized that this is also interesting. that's somewhere from the two thousandth there since 2005, maybe a year. in my opinion it goes like this a certain renaissance of our fiction, its rise. uh, i think she's the second best in the world. and how ready are you for young filmmakers , creators, directors, to come and ask to film, uh, try to film. and your books, that is, either parts or, let's say, well, something that they determine for themselves, what they can take on. uh, it's a whole story, intellectual property licenses, agree to get in somehow. well, look, there are several options, firstly, there are. uh, such a concept when e is done. a non-commercial project is often vgik students , for example, graduates shoot some kind of short film. they usually turn

to me asking permission. i say good shoot. well, sometimes i say ok pay one ruble. i mean, that's a possibility too, right? well, i mean, it's not an exclusive thing. this is precisely the opportunity. e people to work out to work. sometimes it works out well. sometimes not really, but something turns out there are situations somewhat different. here, i have there is a romance of autumn visits and i love it very much. he is so old, he is already 30 years old. and i offered him repeatedly for film adaptation, no one took him, although he is very simple for film adaptation, he is so serious and heavy, and apparently this somehow scared everyone away. e to me in vladivostok about 4 years ago. uh, two young people came up. uh, vladivostok uh, cinematographer. eh, they say sergei vasilyevich we would very much like to take it off. i say guys. here no one is taken, everyone is afraid. i

will give you. just show what you can do. they say okay. we will show, a year has passed. i ended up in vladivostok again, they were due to me with a laptop open and show they filmed two scenes. e, from the book, i think, opa, how did it happen and i play everyone well, and so on, it turned out they attracted local actors from vladivostok with fresh, not worn faces, who played in general absolutely on a public initiative, so to speak, on their own and that is, they played for nothing and played during off-hours, i'm looking at everything well. i say guys okay. here you pay one ruble. they have, in my opinion, a ruble i didn’t find myself and found some no, no, we signed the contract. normally they started chinese coinage. yuan, paid one yuan. but yes, they filmed they filmed eight-episode series. now post-production is underway, according to the mind, 6 episodes out of eight have already

been shoveled there for the second time for the last time. there, everything there was sharply squeezed under, cut down, recorded music. there are good effects. there is a wonderful game, it turned out to be a normal eight-episode fantasy series. how do you feel about the discussion that we do not have good scripts. we don't have good lyrics. we have there are no good writers, we have nothing and films. we don't have good ones either. no, we say, so here it is necessary to divide. we have a lot of good fantasy. we have a lot of good stories we have, er, after all. uh, a lot of things, but we really have a problem with the writers. the only thing i can say is that it's a problem. in fact, it's happening all over the world right now. uh, i think a lot of the problem is because movies are now produced by producers. eh, on the one hand. this is understandable, the producer gives money. he doesn't want to take risks. uh, on the other hand, the screenwriter

wrote the text, the script, everything seems to say, well then they come to the producer. he says yes, it's great. just now, you know , add a girl here. here is the fight. and then put the corpse. well the screenwriter is starting to pry on himself. curls adds that girl then the fight is over. then the director comes and says, no, we need to redo it a little. you know, in such and such a film it was very good and adds something else and as a result appears. as a result, a film that was not shot according to the script was written. to one screenwriter, but just such a team somehow yes attraction, i'm in one scenario, when i was very uh, so i was tormented, i'm here, i need some kind of bright unusual spectacle, and the action took place in a medieval city. and i wrote saying in the background is a large procession of dwarfs fire-eaters, juggling with colorful maces. and these are the things that began

to insert it was filmed. no, it hasn't been filmed. unfortunately. it was not necessary to add an extra and throw out this business podcast of the creative industry, and in the studio roman pockets and elena are our guests. e, sergei lukyanov the great soviet, a fantastic writer looked at the american tv series, which means that somehow there was such a plot. uh, a person who thinks he's talented or not, talented he has the ability to take a pill. and if he is really a talented talent, or his talent is revealed, he begins to write with terrible force. and if not , a talented one turns into zombies and begins to walk in general and there are people at the dawn of your activities. uh, when you realized that you can generally eat a pill already, but in fact, uh writer, when even the first wrote his story. he must be generally sure that he is a genius. eh, at least potentially. uh, here without this

you can't do this job without this, because you look on the shelf of bookstores and you feel bad and you think what i'm doing and why am i writing something else? he has already written a lot, but in a good way, probably, it was a book atomic dream. i have such an old, old, completely written, in my opinion, 20 years old story. and when i wrote it, i suddenly realized that it was more or less good. i realized that it does not work for myself somehow pointed it out. so it was joyful and then there were several more such works. there were autumn visits, after which i realized that i had written a good novel, and there was spectrum and a few more books. that is, every time. so , at a certain stage, you write a book and think. i'm done. i took some peak for myself and you can eat the pill again. and now young people are asking you a question.

how they earn money, of course, they ask, because uh, a scheme when a person works all day and sits in the evening and something writes. well, she's still young. maybe e ride. and when a person is already 30-40 years old, then in the evening you still want to relax a little, and not do it, writing a second job is also work. now i just advise everyone and say, go and engage in electronic publications, because young people now love it very much. e, such a reading format as e reading from a tablet from a phone and so on, there are a lot of sites. hey, where are you writers? this is how they exhibit and, uh, people pay there. well, a person announces a subscription, says, here i am writing a novel. here there, read three chapters for free. if you like it, there for 50 rubles.

you will read to the end there or for 100, who evaluates their work as a result, and as a result, some authors become super popular earn big, really big money, but there is another danger here, because readers he is a person who wants to get what he wants all the time that he already liked. and so the young, the author wrote his novel, everyone screamed there. hurray man, suddenly earned. i thought it was 20 years old, he wrote a book and earned there in a couple of months more than his dad earns a year. his eyes are on fire. he is screaming. now i will write a new book, the reader is screaming, no, we like that one, write a sequel for the person already. strictly speaking, there are no ideas for a continuation, but it is necessary. he sits down to write a second book. so now i'm writing a new one. no, he writes, the third then says to himself. no, i'll write a new one. i'm a writer, he writes a completely new story and all his faithful readers. they say fu is not at all what we wanted

and he sees that he has a financial failure and in as a result, a person begins to earn a young author, but he is forced to work. that's purely by order of the public. you always write what you feel like what torments you almost always i tried a couple of times, uh work. let's just say it's on order. uh, usually it was connected with some kind of computer games, that is, people create a computer game, it is interesting and they have an idea. but if a famous writer writes e a novel about our computer game, then it will become even more popular. yes it is basically works. uh, but when you write a novel like this, to order, you've been persuaded to be motivated. you sit and write, but do you feel that you, in general, are still doing it? uh, not what he wanted, this is a very unpleasant feeling. i've uh written books like this a couple of times. uh, well, don't really want to repeat eating the recipe.

how many hours a day do you need, but invest in writing. well, there is, uh, such a good rule you want to write something every day. that's at least half a page at least a page. eh, to be honest, even if a person writes the page. uh, every day one page of computer text over there, yes, then he will write a couple of novels in a year uh-huh banned the film adaptation of several of his works, not only for film adaptation for theater productions. uh, they were related to the fact that children are just like in american schools. uh, over the past 10 years, these cases have been repeated. uh, murder was committed with children, and he forbade it. he categorically did not give anyone permission. and you have such, perhaps not. i know what it's about. uh, king has several stories about teenagers who were shooting at school and i, to be honest, did not

write such things, yes, and in general these books. i think king's is not the best, but let 's get back to the industry, after all, yes, uh, indeed, the western industry captured our market for a while, but it's quite obvious. now it has partly receded, but it has rushed along with the interest of our citizens too. that is, they continue to look for western western, western tv series, films and so on. they asked us to make some kind of extra effort to return this attention to the inside of the country to our native soil on our fiction, our series, our films, and so on. it seems to me that any such film production, production of games , production of quality music. this is , in fact, also a production. this is a product that you can sell to earn. uh, at worst, money. they just stayed inside the country, and at best it is also an export. that is, e supports is worth at least already, starting from this actually in the same

serial and production. it seems to me that we have already reached quite a decent parity not everywhere, we are pulling out on special effects on technologies. this is understandable, because it adds up to less than the sum, but in terms of the performance of the actors in the plot of e, we are already fully drawing out and there are a number of projects. again, i will not name, who are watching with delight, and they are ahead of , uh, some western counterparts, but if we continue the topic, then go to foreign territories with our films and our meanings with our books. as far as this is also necessary and is there anything, well, it seems to me that there is something i can say, let's say about myself. i don't know now i think less much will be published in europe, uh, but in fact they are publishing now and the offer is still there and

everything is going very actively to the east. eh, china is there and there is a lot of interest. there is an interest in our culture. in general, it has traditionally been preserved. and you can go there, you have to go. i'm getting out. there 's now book after book in china. oh, well, now we have box office receipts, if we talk about cinema, and very high right now, literally these two months. which ok i mean as long as the lord is gathering, but do we have good news? uh, next new year's, apparently all the same, it will, uh, be accompanied by an exit. uh, lots of premier and lay down to cook? i think, i think, yes, i think, yes, i say again, i judge by myself by the number of projects in which i am directly or indirectly involved. uh, it's projects that cost, well, film projects, television scripts, sales

of the rights to the book. i see that we are very active here. now here is a spread on their authors and domestic production. well, it seems to me that it is going even faster than many expected a year ago. he goes very fast. and he goes. that's what 's good, it goes without centralized instructions and from above. as they say, we are all used to, what you need is to be told from above to quickly develop your computer. well, and so on. uh, it turned out that in the film and television industry. in general, people themselves, without a team, begin to develop and launch projects on this positive note. it's time for us to wrap up the creative industry podcast. and how i would like to talk more, we had a good talk. yes, we were visiting. uh, science fiction writer sergei lukyanenko dear friends roman pockets elena hyper. see you again.

thanks hello this is a podcast of eisenstein's witnesses where we are film historians natalya ryabchikova stanislav dedinsky talk about who and how created the cult little-known forgotten classic soviet films. we climb into the jungle of anarchives to tell. why watch soviet cinema now, how to better understand it, how to find new meanings and how to get the most out of it, but today we are not talking about any specific film and not even about the film in general, but about the place where films are shown about the moscow international film festival. the moscow festival is an event in a broad sense, which over the course of different decades was filled with different content in a different sense and actually different cinematography that was shown at this festival and about what goals and objectives were set before this, and

the event before the moscow festival. today we will talk and tell our viewers. cinema as we remember appeared at the end of the 19th century in 1895, and the first festivals arose only in the thirties, and the first very first was the venice festival in the thirty-second year. but the second, by the way, in the thirty-fifth year was the moscow international film festival. it is no coincidence that this happened precisely by the thirties, because during the first three decades of the existence of cinema, in fact, it accumulated that amount of material. well, about which one could already seriously say that he has long stories. yes , because any festival. this summing up summing up the results of what has already happened in previous years, or those results that seem to be waiting for us ahead, yes, according to the results of viewing, most importantly, as current novelties. and in the thirty-fifth year, it was no coincidence that these two totalitarian states of fascist italy and the communist soviet union decided that

we needed to show the achievements of our cinematography around the world and therefore first the venice festival remains, then the festival in moscow is put on, where, in general, the main object of attention becomes films created it was in these countries that it was in the thirties that two countries that by that time were from the world, but were quite closed, and italy and the soviet union e did not let through, let's say as many foreign films on their screens as before and, accordingly, their pictures are also not so seen a lot abroad. and these are the two countries. uh, they made such a window for the venice festival. the moscow festival, where in such a limited space-time mode one could show one's own achievements and see the achievements. well, if not the whole world filmography, then some parts of it again, of course, until the thirties there were collections of filmmakers, there were some more or less

festival ones, so to say , retrospective. moscow cinemas in the mid-twenties spent, for example, comic weeks, that is, they took old comedy tapes of the tenth years, that is, ten years ago and showed, for example , the whole week, or the writer ilya orenburg came from paris and brought the latest french avant-garde cinema, though not entirely there are pieces in the film, but some soviet ones russian film lovers they could see what the lira market is doing there, what dmitry kirsanov is doing there and in general, france was actually the country that is not only considered to be, but gave birth to cinema, but with the lumiere brothers well, the country where the active viewing movement divorced not just sitting and looking. and the discussion. well , in fact, the term fillet is quite a french origin and a french cinematheque. as a matter of fact, this is one of the main mecca of cinema lovers in terms of

today, but a place where already since the thirties. and burning its creator , the future creator of french semantics. andrey lagua, systematically collected old cinema, discussed old cinema, but also discussed new cinema, because the concept of the festival was born in many respects from the need to watch and discuss the film, and the french don’t feed them bread and just let them discuss some kind of cinema interesting in the thirties . the french were also going to organize, and festivals were one of the first, but the festival is not just we gathered discussed. this is a state event, and therefore those countries whose leaders are themselves interested in cinema win the festival competition here, therefore italy turns out to be the first mussolini who loved to watch movies, and liked to imagine himself as the heroes of the italian screen, matsesta, the man who organized the largest film studio in europe precisely in