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in spite of his say. so elitism. it's in his books. i see that he perceives these residents on these. e konovalov pushers are more flint than hipsters, by the way, the word hipster is also used by bio-growth, but not in the sense that the beatniks themselves were hipsters on the fact that now we use this word in a slightly different meaning then. it was a man who was in the subject. well, that's what you're talking about, uh, these dwellers, that he was friends with the inhabitants. he treats them as equals. although we understand that he came from a completely different environment. and so he starts hanging out with some, well, just bandits. delnikov starts stealing and well, in general, and at the same time, uh, there is no feeling of any hierarchy. i have a feeling. here is some kind of equality of partnership and brotherhood. let yes man is a wolf to man, it is clear that in this situation, probably, there can be no friends when everyone is hunting. yes, for some

drugs, and most importantly - this is a drug, but nonetheless. i have a feeling that a is some kind of magical world. uh, bra- fraternal or not? i've seen quite a few uh kids. these are the rich parents. eh, they come in good cars, a week later the car is already worse, a week later the car is completely bad , then on foot. yeah i'm through and then on to a new car. well, it depends on how parents support, but in general. yes of course then there is, er in this among the use. there, in general, there is only one hierarchy. that is, there you have it, you don’t have it, that is, if you have it. you are the king of god, and everyone loves you and all your friends do not. you don't really need anyone there. you know that, and as if the only thing there is somehow there, you can somehow credit something in debt there, it’s the very thing to crawl, so it’s like there , they erase these things, as it were, that is, some are lost social hierarchies. well, yes,

rich educated. well out rich, mean u eat you. and this means that you, if you were rich yesterday, as if, i'm sorry , is it educated or not well , of course, it will probably be more pleasant to talk to you, but in fact, no one really talks there at all. well, as for you, it seems, i take from here, choosing. uh, this experience, making it his literary material, and he consciously went into living life in an extreme, dangerous way. coming out dry from the water. wherein. i think in case i take for here junk, just at the beginning of this novel. it more or less describes. i i think that after all, but he was just so young in weight, yes, well, not many people work, people love it. ah, i mean, well, uh, you know, it's me. here, too, for example, it is believed that i also do not

work, but as a result, it turns out that you write books, you suffer. there you carry these pictures all the time back and forth. something is always busy with something. that is, uh, therefore, these are people who often do not want to work, as if they do not understand that they will have to work a lot all their lives, i had to work, of course. yes it's me. if so return, i i think that it was still a young weight and such. here's some weird experience. e, apparently, most likely turned out to be somewhere on the verge of life and death several times and he was cut through, that he would just die right now and that’s it . then obviously subtle and with perception, yes, that is, well, as if some fragile things perceived subtle things there, perceived , tracked it all, of course, it scared him a lot. this is the prospect of dying. eh, in such a senseless. well, somehow he decided to deal with it. and so i think this is it. that's how roman junky

became such an important over-effort. for him. we can say that this is such literature. eh, somehow promotes this way of life or fascinates? or so to speak draws in or rather vice versa? experience shows that those people who generally, in principle, read, of which there are few of them. here, they have a chance, that is, they have something formed there, some higher nervous activity, some kind of dreams, maybe they are delusional, but they have nothing to lose, they easy-going, if a person has some kind of dreams on the cortex , some kind of desire to become someone. i don't know how it will take place or some kind of adventure in life . it is, in principle, any, no matter how useful it is, if it is also thematic. rather, it is positive, that is, junk for me when i read it.

first time use. for me , it produced me. here is the consumption effect of what, as it were, here, uh, here, dude, everything is the same, but took the book and wrote it. that is, it consists stimulated. yes, that is, but i, and i’m sitting here, sitting here, some kind of picking up here, something there , this is the same thing. i live some kind of boring, completely dull , monotonous life; in fact, this book is about a feat, that is, about a feat. yes, because sex, all these autofiction novels , in which, uh, the author is there or the characters, he survives, these are books about a feat about a person's feat in front of himself, because a person rebels against himself , turns out his vicious part. yes, which ones owns. yes, and yet he is completely lost state. he does not know what to do with him all physically destroyed, and for all the society is destroyed. he has already stolen from everyone what is possible, that is, uh, lies e not thought for months, as he himself describes

. hmm yes . well, this is something not well, that is, this field is real, this is not normal. this is a state for even an ordinary person, passing through critical consciousness correctly rope rope into the cord. what are you there? it’s not just that it doesn’t mean you don’t find it, and you build yourself, in fact. making some new connections. but tell me, but i take e, what is its peculiarity, because there is actually a lot of literature similar to dzhan, but why exactly do i take it, you can say? why is this an artistic approach? why and his prose has artistic value, and not just the value of the experience described. i guess by writing this junk here. he realized what it really could be success that he, maybe he likes it, that

it's better than there, how he lived there or and so on. yes, that is, and he went on. then he began to explore, and already more. i think the junk is there. well, here, literary, there is some kind of contribution there. he's not like that. it’s kind of big, but if, for example , in connection with junk, there is a naked breakfast, yes, that is, it’s in a naked breakfast, he will absolutely help his work, and he uses there, uh, mosaic. yes and some here he is in all such. well, but what is it? this essentially, research is like this. here, as it were, here is the transgressive experience of the writer. that is, when you had something internal, something happened there, a typewriter . i don't know the paint, and it became something that's internal, it became something of a part. yes, the landscape is there, uh, part of the u landscape is part of the cultural landscape, that is, uh, and it is precisely

this moment of transition, when turning a writer some of this energy comes out of the creative one, it is somehow refracted and splashes out there onto canvases onto paper. this is the psycho moment. it's creative he tried to analyze it in a naked breakfast, to be honest, it was not very clear. why is it necessary? because it is more or less individual and more or less for everyone. that's pretty much what happens. that is, well, he wrote, but he did it. it's mine it wasn't written. he did it. this book is so niche. i think so, that is, this is a book that should have been written by someone as a film adaptation, gronenberg. directed e not a kit lunch movie. e. here. i last watched even there are two or three film adaptations, that is, such a cultural wave still went from him, and what do you think, here are the followers, yes, and even alchantra thompson

there, you think they scooped up the choice , after all, he was, to be honest, so i would share, then there is. uh, i take it to blame, that de quincia, these are people with this experience. and here is hunter thomson, uh, it's alcohol. a person who, for some reason, wrote about what he is in general, is very good. i love him not for that. i mean, uh, frankly, hunter thompson. uh or uh, and here, here is a naked breakfast, just here i am rather, here, to unfortunately, maybe even more counter-toms are molded, but these are such writers about the frenzy there is some kind of there, and there is somewhere to run. there is something there all the time. there. actually. they are not about some kind of addiction experience and not about some kind of experience. that is, it is some. well, such, as it were, roman clips of a criminal of some dude. i mean, honestly, hmm, i hate to say it, but i

'll say it's a pointless book. uh, nothing, she's russian literature. uh, the beatniks influenced, influenced by the conditional, but here is our favorite, by the way, edward and they are precisely shlimons. yes, with this eddie. he arrived absolutely in the seventies, in the freshest form he scooped up this russian, so to speak, literary consciousness, so to speak, scooped up this beatnik drive. and he managed to rethink it. here's a bucket, and a filter. yes, and launch it into russian culture in russian luda great russian literature. and this. by the way, speaking, it turns out that it is incredibly refreshing, and the manner of auto-fixation is this one. eh, how like such a kind of dogma, yes, that is, as an endless development of some kind of novel, that is, all these, of course , are methods that were transmitted through lemon into russian literature. i think that, to be honest, we are only at the beginning of such a long journey of russian

literature that we are now saying that there are still chances. you know a few years ago. you see, with surprise, i found some articles somewhere, which means that many of these literary critics started and, therefore , were ironic that auto-phishing has gone, as if in russia i hear a lot of criticism. on autofiction and yet it's completely pointless is a criticism, because well, there are some. well, there is a cultural wave. yes, this is true and you can't do anything about it. just again, someone will do it talentedly, someone will do it poorly, the art of modern medicine. i have another version such that we are generally doomed to autofiction for the next 100-200 years. it's just that now, in general, it seems to me, that's such a great literature, especially a large literary form. it's in some kind of this. if not autofiction would be in a big crisis. well, novels, in principle, no one reads for a long time. now everyone is more interested in the short form, in my opinion, yes

, a short short form and a form that relies on some kind of reality , that is, now we are now seeing, for example, on television a huge number of these reality shows, they even everything goes out of fashion, but everything goes out goes out, but they cannot go out. so i think that the future is behind every recollection of biographies. but autofix even people are stretching and pay rublyovo because it's real, because you really know something there on the one hand. eh, on the other hand. it can be interesting somehow, if it's interesting, how stylish interesting delicious. i apologize to take the word there, it will be consumed accordingly, because people will not be some distant terminological things. and when a person is there, here, i know him there. i told you once. it turns out that this is where it comes in, and now i also see popularity, which was big in the fifties. in

in general, one can say, an innovator and a pioneer of this approach to creativity in general, when you take your experience, all the more shameful, yes, some kind of negative and just it, honestly open and show it from your own face. and as you say. uh, the person who understands , uh, feels that this experience is real? i would still. well, i probably wouldn’t call him directly a navator in this, but he really is. yeah, he made it a classic, you know. here, i would say so, it’s not that he came up with it, but he’s already driven it in so that, as it were, he doesn’t you will knock it off, because by and large there are quite a lot of autofixes. memories of them are quite a lot, that is, they are different in every way, there are such and such qualities of me, yes, from everything, but he did it, really talentedly. firstly, yes, secondly, this is an interesting period of history, he managed to capture a section of this fiftieth such in america, some of these bikers before

hippies. we suddenly find out that there was some kind of underground, some people there, so he somehow lived in this way. i mean, it's exactly like that. here is a historical moment. here at auto-fixation has a lot of advantages. i say if it's well written, plus it's historically interesting, it's a character. it’s interesting, the author is an interesting character, that is, there immediately goes a chain of some kind that fits right away to some other people a novel of that time there with a memory of others it’s like, in fact, the universe of these auto-fictions and memories is like, here , she will give literature. i'm thinking some extra, maybe after some time an extra mod block, because i'm generally expecting. another explosion, i'm waiting new literary fashion, it will not be super mass, but, but i can see it right now, it's all spinning in the air. these are literary clubs on topics. eh, and it

will be right. that is, it is there, because people's brains are destroyed. that's the kind of thinking. yes, this is all already clear to everyone that literature and texts are something. well, the book is the only thing that can somehow include everything. how to assemble or some studying the brain. they say that it is the reading of the letter that is direct, yes, that is, to development. no, we see literature several reasons to return. so seriously, as if this is the most jokeless, that is, this media is very serious. this tool is very serious, i just know from my own experience, and this, that is, the hardest, can pull out the addiction. and if with this for me there is no from certain there even some secrets there, yes, they consult there and there they combine there. with someone gymnastics with well, a literary text work, it will be the main one anyway, and now i know. i know people's resistance. i know that people resist. so to speak to this tension

of the brain. they do not want to read and write. that is , you still need some, as a rule, you have dedicated your life to consumption. if then they are completely dependent on their own sources of income there, and consumption there. they live completely, how to say, the second brain there, the limbic system. yes , and these books, in general, they probably irritate such people, that is, because there is just such direct criticism or the limbic system going on there. is it so good to consume, is it so good to eat 20 loaves of bread a day, here you are used to, but great you love this bread or 20 pieces, you weigh 300 kg there. well, that is, you have it destroyed there. well, it's good, come on, we'll round it up already. i want you to get answers to questions. here. he is lucky , he is a scoundrel scoundrel. that's why he came out of all this horror so handsomely and became a star. and it seems to you that maybe

this miracle happened so that we could see some way that he made. well , of course, he is undoubtedly lucky for me and he he was born lucky and somehow carried him through. well , how, well, on the other hand. here we killed ours for some reason, it’s not clear there, he got off well, but you might be out of luck. or him with it. maybe i don't think so. i think that anyone else like that, who has gone through, is a hard experience, as if he survived and succeeded. but now it's lucky or this man. uh, who committed the duck. yes, it's probably just not in this discourse. yes, here, as it were, this moment is that how could a person be able to leave himself of such a past and create a new one. yes, because it’s all to pick out in yourself and redo. it is a pain. incredible. it's not some switch to switch. it's like a long retraining of habits there, that's all. equally, i think that it’s not completely certain that

you will somehow change completely right there, because this is not necessary. but if we talk about that's it, uh, they consider him evil. and it seems to me that just when you're like this after all these alterations of yourself, you're not that angry . so how do you look at people? a little so indulgent such that you are such a good joke for you. well , in general, it doesn’t mean anything like that, that is , a person can really be some kind of injury, and there really is. destroy a person because you know what you are made of and how you were made. and what you had to overcome and you see that a person has it, and he naively runs barefoot overgrown and in that direction and you tell him, you know there is a hole, there will be an abyss there, he don’t listen. well i guess you're here you weren’t a fool as a result, then you go and look, well, he’s sitting in a hole there, well , the minister’s group came to take him and

said that he was terribly grumpy and grouchy, he brightened up only when they talked about his petunias in general a writer. i know that's how it is with the character of hmm, not everything, as it were, is golden. why because it's getting old, you know? that is , everything, it has already experienced everyone, you understand? i mean , i've been through it all the time. well, he grew up, and you survived them too. that is. well, somehow this all, it seems to me, spoils the character. thank you great for talking. it was a must read. i speak to batnikov director to write, i had a guest artist to write or how much does kirill shamanov cost, we talked about creativity or we take a rose.