hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkapperov. this is a space history podcast on june 16, the 60th anniversary of the first flight of a woman into space on june 16, 1963. valentina tereshkova, the first woman who overcame earth's gravity, turned out to be in earth's orbit today in the cosmonaut detachment the only girl of ananakin just recently returned from space after spending 157 days there, she was the first of the russian cosmonauts to fly on an american spacecraft. anya hello, well, first of all, congratulations on completing that first space flight. tell us about your feelings and emotions from this flight. thank you very much for your congratulations. i am very glad that i flew on my first space trip me. she really liked the work was very intense

feeling of weightlessness, generally impossible to convey. this, despite the fact that we imitate it on earth in some of our types of training, the real weightlessness is unique, and everyone who has been in space will confirm this. for example, you are. yes, of course, anya tell me why you decided to become an astronaut. i decided to become an astronaut when i was 27 years old, at that time , the first open recruitment in our country for the cosmonaut detachment was announced. now this is practiced then. it was the first time for the first time for me in 2012. yes, in 2012 it was yes. and how did you find out about this news, i worked at a radio station and my colleagues who collected the news informed me that if you want to go into space, yes, so to speak, they offered me and i analyzed all the requirements that apply to the applicant. i immediately woke up not quite a natural interest in this case

and correlating it with my background with that experience, personal skills and previous achievements in my life. i understood that i was going there, and i have a great desire for a little bit of a chance. yes, having discussed a little with my spouse right there, he said, i want to fly into space or what, i want to be an astronaut. and what is it called. cool. why not. how do i tell him? there are such opportunities, please help me to take the documents, because in fact it is not so easy , but very large, and where is the package of documents all your references to the characteristics of medicine are included. this is the vast majority of the package of documents. and uh, there are such types, m-m examinations or tests that you pass when they don’t give out right away, for example, in the hands of hmm conclusion and so sasha helped me, ran, then collected. this is what is ready for me, because when you

are at work, uh, it is problematic to do it quickly in a short time. that was at that moment. uh, when i found out about this in my 2 weeks before the end of the submission of documents, so i had very little time and thank you, alexander helped me quickly, and as much as i could collect, they sent a package of documents, and i was invited to the full-time stage of the cosmonaut training center. it lasted, how long in my case it lasted a month. how many were selected, well, in the end, 10 people were selected, of which eight were left, you and all the men. yes, and as in some of the media options they said that seven people and one woman, well, in our case, it is logical. by the way, yes, you are correct. clearly very a lot of serious training next to them were men who also watched. you had to, of course, be at the level of no less. and i know that we do not have the same requirements, that the girls

owe less. i don't know any more time for changing into a spacesuit, all this is the same you can say, or maybe an interesting extreme type of training. well, i don’t know skydiving, zero gravity flights , survival, what do you remember most of all already, having experience in space flight. e in his preparation. well, yes, you are correct then he you say you name these examples, they really are, and you can say the brightest ones, because the involvement goes to the maximum, and the psycho-emotional in these types of training is special diving training, special parachute training. yes, i made four jumps, by the way, in the siberian region at the berd airfield. the first four jumps of their lives were. yes, this is my home. where i come from, the city of novosibirsk, we ourselves are beloved perfectly, except for parachute training and diving , something was remembered, then special, uh, views

training, and with work in spacesuits, and sauce with a spacesuit and high-end suits e, like in the falcon rescue suit that we use, and in a spaceship, and with a spacesuit for spacewalks, uh, which is called orlan, you know all this . these are very interesting types of training. and work in the hydrolaboratory, zero gravity flights, this is a unique thing, of course, uh, which, by the way, you can try, in principle, anyone, if you want, and i’m the most difficult or most interesting. this is the hardest one for me the task of the state exam, when chickens slowly turned into adult hens, and when there is a transition from candidates astronauts, e all applicants who have passed the selection of the cosmonaut squad are enrolled as candidates astronauts, and and these guys are these people. uh, uh, these people are, but they study and prepare at the first stage of general

space training. after that, they pass a grandiose state exam of a large , very large commission. e, who qualifies you further, gives you the green light astronauts. after passing this exam. you you become one of the candidate cosmonauts of the testers until you have flown. somehow you flew to become a pilot astronaut, and survival. by the way, a very interesting part of our training astronauts ah. survival in various climatic and geographical areas in case something goes wrong e not quite as planned. well, let's say a deviation from some regular scenario and hmm a landing or a splashdown. maybe it will take place. yes, and it may be in the place where they are waiting for you just a little a little to the side, and you may find yourself, for example, on the water surface. well, yes somewhere in altai well, perhaps, but for this case, uh, a program was created, uh

, according to which astronauts learn to act correctly when they are on their own in certain conditions before the arrival of the rescue uh, brigade, which you u take out the emitted device. so this survival is called rescue in the case when we expect a rescue squad. here it can be in winter in a wooded, rather swampy area. it could be a splashdown on the water urgent abandonment, when you are lowering the vehicles, when you immediately evacuate from it right in a spacesuit, if a certain set of actions. what needs to be done either, if time permits, you put on a special one, and a diving suit, e, with the expectation that you need to stay in the water for a long time and survive , again with you portable emergency supplies, that is, in different conditions, and with the construction of shelters, if us the special department, and the guys a, who prepare us therefore. management is watching. e together with medical by the psychological team during these, uh, tests, judging most of all by maybe

at some particular moment. i don't know, now i can already speak. it's humorous. maybe that was the hardest moment, but if we talk about survival, uh, here , whoever is lucky, as they say with the climatic conditions in my case, and survival in the desert, perhaps, was the most aggressive, or something in terms of climatic, and the conditions of of all kinds that i got so very hot it was. and yes it was hot in the shade it was 45 °, then we have a blow dryer. it's this hot sandy wind, and then there was a very powerful cloud cover. and it's all mixed hair dryer. the cloudy fryed and soared, and that's it all together and this went on for a long time. i remember this situation . e, that our task is to build a shelter and not show maximum activity, firstly, so as not to lose moisture, secondly, so as not to heat up once again the sun had set and it was already cold. in

fact, it was right cold and i remember that for the first hour i was just completely undressed, lying and giving off body heat, like a radiator, until it cooled down. er, well, that's an indication that the heat has really accumulated over the day. well, it’s very interesting there, we extracted moisture, uh from plants and from a hole dug with the help of condensation, any kind of special training is interesting, uh, space astronauts, they are all interesting. we said it was 10 years. i was preparing for my first flight, but were there moments when you think that you won’t fly, that you had vacations? don't know hands, and well, you were afraid not to fly. well, let's start with the fact that i was not afraid, i expected that i would fly. and i didn't know when that would be eventually. i was assigned to the back-up crew, with pro-spear loops along as well for the crew. so it's understandable. i put in the crew and it is clear that the next one will be your main one. yes, we have such

a queue, right. you're talking about this moment when you were told that you were assigned as backup. that's who told you this new one, somehow it didn't happen that they approached me and handed me a flag. now you're on the crew somehow. well, you are the crew. well, okay, cool. great. great, then let's throw out the hair. well, that's it, it's time to go on working, but i found out about the dragon aquarium, one might say, by accident, and the commander next to me told me about it. and i was already in training, seriously. in the backup crew and almost before the start of the main crew, which we duplicated. so he found out and these are the final stages, in parallel i have already begun to prepare in a circle and finished with us, you know, at the final stages there are a lot of exams that we pass before the flight, certification and was both in the union and the fredg. and as soon as we returned from baikonur, after the guys launched the main crew, here we

plunged as much as possible into only one preparation covered. and how did your relatives and close friends react when they found out that you would fly into space, well, that is, they were appointed to the crew. yes , it all happened just as organically and logically. in general, if we talk about my relatives, they learned back in 2012 that i would fly into space. that's where you have to say how they are on it react, because otherwise she now why would you? i actually went to the squad. well, and she wants to fly into space. oh, there are a lot of thoughts in her head and joy and laziness there. but this is mainly, of course, with the parents, but of course, everything is cool , too, i was worried, but not in a different way. this is very supportive of my family. eh, my friends and people in general, and it always feels so great when you do your job with pleasure and just gradually and periodically. e, then from the left, then from the right you hear some words of support, and and it's just that people are happy.

it’s for you and you rejoice that a person simply rejoices at himself, but somehow the ability to rejoice at success for and for people who are happy to do their job is wonderful, mom reacted great. later, she told me later when i was accepted into the detachment. uh, i've been qualifying all this time for eight months. well , that is, after the submission of documents , a certain period has passed that it will not fly? well, in the sense that they won’t take you to moscow, i don’t know that she was there, of course, on the account in general, she thought everything to herself, it was funny. and what only after how i was accepted into the squad. i told my mother, my mother is the tradition of the astronauts there now as a candidate. uh, starting to get ready, and then mom took it as , uh, like i was in some kind of circle, like it was. as if i thought that some kind of movement was just there, you know, like, young rescuers something like that, starting to cosmonaut there. she at first somehow even.

well, because there was no backstory. i immediately said, i'm in the detachment, and she's cool. it's like you know, there i am in the crimea, it's great. what is that kind of thing? well, then, when she found out, when she turned on mom that you are seriously a real astronaut who will soon fly a real one, she was more excited than delighted, but then she gradually got used to letting go. and as much as possible, she was with me the whole period. your husband works for us at the cosmonauts center yes, a specialist in our physical training. here is his reaction. he knows it all. he prepares us cosmonauts , the time of rehabilitation flights helps us, then the person in general is aware of where you have ended up. and why him? what was the reaction already when you in crew means, well, of course, sasha is my husband. he was very happy, because he knows how much work i put into this business. how much time how much yourself? well, this is a matter first of all, of course for yourself, because you don't like me. i do this for pleasure, but

nevertheless, this is where i invest my resources in myself and he himself wanted to fly someday. yes, sure. shaft you to cosmic success. no, no, no, sasha is a person who knows how to sincerely rejoice for others and will always support, and this is nothing not connected with his personal e, the trajectory of movement along his lines of development. well , of course, he also tried and wanted to become an astronaut; he dreams of flying with me in space. and i if it is, maybe it's great. he really wants. i believe that he is a very worthy candidate for this, and a suitable person to be an astronaut. he was selected once and according to one of the medical criteria. uh, according to our uh requirements. uh, medically in our country they didn’t let him go further. although, well, in general, ah. well, for example, we are good. well i don't know us so he doesn't

went, of course, but maybe in time the requirements for medicine will be more loyal. but what am i counting on and everyone is counting on, because medicine is moving forward and there are a lot of worthy people who are ready and able to do this work. well, yes, and the experience of flying shows that you don't have to be super healthy, and i'm talking about the tourists that we take, it's far from super, great. people select them so that they at least return alive there after a short two-week period. flight, but, in principle, you are right that it is time, of course, to call in this bar a little, which it is necessary to open access, of course to flight, to as many people as possible. well, sasha is one of them , i believe that if this ever happens, and in our life, that we can fly together, like a married couple. this will be the first. by the way, yes, what party flew there are couples, well, two astronauts but together they did not intersect in space, you will be the first. estimate, and we

have now told everyone about it. it will be cool. sasha is still passing by age. yes, he is quite strong with a green boder. will wait. and what indicator of health knocked down, it's not secret, by clean teeth bite, in my opinion, it is possible to sleep. it's not a heart. yes, so sasha has and wish him. uh, in the nearest, by the way, recruitment, maybe he will prepare and go to the cosmos squad, soon it will be announced. ah, the official set. we still want to recruit a certain number of young ambitious astronauts and, god forbid, sasha will be among them , of course, the first man in space flew completely empty.

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are mostly in california. tell us about this training, in general, your impression of it will reveal something that we don't know. well first turn i want to say that my state of mind from all this preparation. just completely comfortable and wonderful why because uh all the experts with whom we are somehow us? i mean the crew in which i was and myself. uh, had a chance, uh, to work together. they are so maximally focused, focused on quality and comfort and crew in preparation and on interaction on feedback. that is, they are completely open and they are very polite tactful nice always supported orient. that is, they behaved like real partners and comrades in the best. in the sense of the word, they didn’t scold them for mistakes, there was a lot. but there is no debriefing, there is debriefing and the point is not

to scold someone, but to constructively discuss some things, mistakes or misunderstandings, of course, we had dialogues, but these analyzes of one or another, especially not quite, but unambiguously understandable situations for both sides. we have always brought all unsolvable issues to the end as a result of discussions in the process of discussions. oh, the other side. i mean, it's not just the instructor. it's theirs er, a ground-based flight control center, which is maximally included in the training process of the crew. they do even an order of magnitude more work, because the crew dragon, uh, is as automated as possible and a lot of control comes from the earth, and the crew works at least, but with the ship’s systems, but it is oriented to turn on in certain situations in the process. well, he trains for it. so i just got pleasure from how effectively and, er, logically,

the debatable side can be built and implemented , this side, but the working one. a of process a training and when there are especially many people somehow they have it built there, but because , and there are actually a lot of specialists working there, whom we don’t see, they have their own location rooms in which they are remotely working with all this electronics and crew. uh, here, there is a full-sized one maximally adapted to a real spacecraft, as in our case. we have unions, a gym. damn, yes, the layout is exactly what it looks like, like the real one. eh, this truncated cone is bigger. naturally, one airtight volume in union, two connection two will have more space. yes, there is one and , accordingly, there is more freedom when you are in the e position of a person in space, well, astronauts in this case.

more comfortable for the knees, and the chair is a slightly different type, but all the principles are the same, just a little design layout is different. we, of course, went through everything in order to navigate the design of the ship and how to work inside in the interior. uh, the ship's beautiful spacesuit, by the way, a spacesuit, and another according to modern design. eh, such 150 m was realized for you, and uh, at first the first option was made already a spacesuit. you know, he is an airtight shell and clothing on top is a power shell. the so-called, on which, in principle, it is possible to implement externally this design of the e itself, the implementation of a spacesuit, but and. eh, there were timely adjustments. here is the sealed shell. it was so funny only one sealed shell was put on me, and i looked like some kind of something like a frog with these green fingers. that's all sorts of things. it was funny. they

cut everything for me very well, and in the end, at the final fitting, and, uh , some kind of grinding checks for tightness, and the corrections were made according to the spacesuit. and i was absolutely comfortable in it during the entire flight. that is, it's great to implement our falcon, or there is a little difference in designs. uh, there is okay, let's say. easier more convenient. just yes, and he and he dressed when they prepared the falcon for me from the spacesuit my measurements, and i put it on. i was also comfortable in it, because it was made, of course, why? because i was a fool crewing, in fact, in the union of the 267th expedition. well, which one is more comfortable, the one that suits you well by your standards, sat down, one might say, the clothes are beautiful, this is the other, the one is both comfortable for me. they are just different. i want to say. what and by the way, russian, where the house is stored. that's what he

left already expiration date. and it's too early for me. i need a certain way to go, i don't know where, probably a star. i think in energy. maybe in energy, i don’t know for sure, somewhere he is. or he really has a severity of 2 years, but here is a spacex-sovsky suit. it is closer to the bodysuit, it is closer to the body, its difference is that you enter it through the leg opening and it is hermetically carried out at the expense of germany and in our aa space suit sokol and you enter through the central opening in the abdomen and e collection account. uh, herman fabrics of germinal material and harnessing it make hermetic. here is a different design of helmets. uh, headsets are also in tomsk for sex. there is no sanding there's custom speakers that are molded into your hand-held sink, a, and a microphone built into the helmet. here. not a chin

then, as in our space suit, there the headset is put on the head completely with slender speakers and a microphone that goes out here, opposite that hole. well, it's just a different design. yes, both are comfortable. great , tell me about star trek. wow, it was very interesting from the first time. we flew at the appointed single-digit time after boarding the ship. hey, i asked a question before. this is the layout of the ship in which we trained, yes, and we got it. uh, the guys in my crew have such an effect. e, for everyone, at the same time after we closed the hatch, and it seems to me that we seem to be sitting in a simulator in a mock-up. yes, that's how well imitated. in reality, even the smell and that's it, the lighting was completely the effect, that in the simulator and even caught myself thinking. is this a reality or a lie, what are you sitting okay?

concentrating on the work of the steps ahead and uh, this is the contact of the ascent the first these seconds that you experience. i was as focused as possible. and it was like that unusual. i was expecting a little push. now you will tell us how it happens with us in the union. here is ah. you know, somehow you know the speed. such a gap, and then just a light-light easy set. this is precisely the acceleration of speed, and this gradually began to be felt at the level of the body. here is the soft, completely soft feeling that you are just so gently, gently, affectionately. this is how they raise it on the palms. just a little faster faster faster acceleration, forgot a very unusual feeling, and then a long time you flew this station 29 hours. almost half of that time. we were sleeping filming. yes, of course, we took off the spacesuit after the hatching. they performed their hygiene procedures there, ate and immediately went to bed. after i woke up. i asked,

of course, we had a cyclogram of actions there. how much we slept was 13 hours. we slept for 13 hours since the summer. it was the first time. yes, i don't think so. no, it just sort of accumulated. here is this pre-launch, maybe, here are the fees, these are all somewhere constantly sleeping tricks, like gagarin is cool slept, well done real. and how do you like the crew , you flew completely, all foreigners, how is the relationship in general? how to work together? oh well, i got a wonderful crew and nikolainen. uh, josh cassada. and these are two guys from us who were selected in a row in 2013 a year after nikola was me. uh, the commander of our crew and something of a cat, who has already flown into space for the fifth time. this is such an experienced specialist , many, many, cosmonauts, astronauts know him, and this is the soul of the company. this is a wonderful person, very kind and radiant, cheerful and

him one of the uh phrases is he says, life is beautiful. and i'm with him absolutely, and in russian , russian is not bad, he speaks russian not bad. and we had such a good interaction of the crew, it was the constructive sense of the elbow that was well developed, there were warm relationships that supported each other, a single cool team. that's right, that's how good a team is. which should be everywhere and always in any form. look, you get to the iss and you are already moving to the russian segment. you become a part, and the teams from russia, uh, how was your work at the station, what were there? maybe some funny funny cases when i came in? ah, it turned out to be in a large volume of the station, but we were met from the camera. and here we are flying on this ship, we all docked, then we need to get to the station. well i'm so hitting the station. he has such a smile and just a

finite awareness is everything. is it true. this creature exists. it just takes so long to cook into space for so long to cook. yes and to all this, well, anyway, on the ground and on the ground on the ground. and this is when our guys we are joyful later, and they took me to our segment, and we, i'm flying after them. now i still remember the cosmic legs, i remember changing. uh, this interior. we fly through the american segment, and then we go into ours, meaning that you are the most well , let's say the front points where we docked. it ’s steep, you fly through the entire american e, in the direction of movement there to russian in the opposite direction, in the direction of movement we move a and we enter the functional cargo block. okay, that's ok, but when i get in service module, at first my first

impression was that it was as if i were on the world simulator. i do not know why the world, and i have some impression of the head left. well from the previous station e orbital station world. we have cosmonauts in the training center, and well, somehow more came. like such a make-up, uh, a museum, yes, such a layout, and for some reason , i think that these are some kind of interior coloring, maybe the panels gave such an effect. i immediately flew through the e, the central post. i saw these computers, these old pins, and x and puma, and which we have in reserve. well , it's just very old equipment. and i see, uh, ours. e table, uh, dining room and everything somehow happened like this, as if i was in america and so at first it was so interesting, then i laid it out a little. naturally, they immediately ate it, there they first gave me the first in my life. we opened a jar there, eat the first one there, we filled the package in space, i did everything is fine. like me, yes,

our instructors taught me not to get burned and not to burn anyone. that's all i remember. here's what's most difficult was at the station. well, maybe you want to sleep more. and what were you doing at the station we work even on weekends. you know, we are scheduled to work even on saturday. firstly, we are obliged, if we are talking about weekends, then such a full-fledged cleaning is definitely done once a week. she takes some time there in vacuuming and wiping. ah, plane panels. ah, wet cleaning. but with the replacement of some filters there , something else, and this takes a certain time, then often these days they put some promotional activities, some records, and participation in various educational activities there. this also takes time. and between them all the same, even if there is a little big break. you're still all day something involved in some events of the case. and here you have flown on saturday sunday. it stays for you

once a week, uh, a private video conference with the family, too, you wait there all week, when you have it, to see your relatives or close people there. that's all the same saturation goes plus physical training there are weekends too. and here it is all the time there were some dangerous funny situations on the iss when we have time. uh and especially sometime the music plays. we start there to have fun spinning on the spot. especially i've had enough, it's a fun dance floor. yes, it's very interesting. here in this, e another dimension , one can move and use some surfaces, from which one can create for oneself some movement in the space of the body. this is very unusual and cool, if we talk about the return. yes, how round is the return how long was from the moment the hatch closes and before splashdown? you

have taken to the ocean. yes, but somehow everything went quickly. before we closed the hatch, uh, hoping the suits came in, and, uh, more than 10 hours we were, and in space, i think, well, in free flight and eventually we landed at a in the waters of the gulf of mexico. near the city of tampa and from where we were brought to us, they splashed down, yes, that is, the military took out no special of their ship. there was a zone at the back where the capsule is loaded from the water. and this is me , a washing zone to wash away possible leftovers. uh, do you have a special cabin for fuel or were there yes, there would be special places where astronauts who were taken out of the descent capsule, and immediately transported are sent to the area where medical workers do not take off their spacesuit

and medical workers take some primary actions for medical workers at the landing site of the crew of rusan a. silver on this court, yes, and she had her actions on before this came training. and for work on moving around the location of the main specialties. at what point? well right after the money, how did you get on board? i don't know when it was transferred. we waited a very long time to be loaded and put on board. we were there for 40 minutes. we were in a capsule and felt this excitement. for some reason i feel, remember transverse waves of water. yes, the wave of water, on which the capsule stood, the capsule swayed, and it was felt physically at the level of the body, and it, of course, loosened up slightly, so i preferred to sleep so as not to pay attention to it, when we were already set aboard the ship and there, too, the rocking was felt right on the ship, the main buildup of the body began when the specialists began to lift from their

seats there, well, a special built sequence. i do not understand us even through a special bridge. uh, they take it out, push it out of the ship, put such a recumbent chair on a special gurney and carry it on it. e in a special medical, as it were, place a corner. and here, when they started to take me out. oil, of course, pumped. and when i was already put to me and said, sit down on this couch. yes, i just don't understand how to sit down. i just imagine that i am a little here, as if i will relax my legs now and just fall somewhere with some kind of large powerful lead tool. you're uh in rehab right now. yes, that is, you will not be attracted anywhere for six months. i mean, no training. tell me, did you have time to visit, uh, your native, novosibirsk in the meantime, i didn’t have time to visit my native novosibirsk, but we have such a task, we have a planned one. uh, business trip there, uh,

personally business trip and and very, but quite a large set of events related to the various 130th anniversary of the city of novosibirsk will be it will be, uh, in the twentieth of june, and i'm waiting. eh, people are waiting for this trip when i arrive there, and i am in anticipation of the fact that i finally land in novosibirsk, i probably haven’t been there for two years. tell me, is there an idea to fly the second roskosmos, of course, it's interesting, let's dream about it. yes, let's discuss what, in your opinion, a person will do in 50 years in space gradually gradually, of course, space will be opened still for a wider audience to the public of different people, and we see this happening with our eyes. ah, development. uh, this whole process of tourism is getting bigger anyway. we will somehow get closer to the circumlunar space to the moon. let's start organizing something there and

try to build some elements that will be useful to us in the future in understanding. how can this be used in further research, and space objects for the purpose of benefiting people flies. i'm not a prophet, i don't know but i expect yes ever, of course not. thank you for coming to visit and telling about your wonderful interesting flight. thank you very much. anton for this warm, sweet , relaxed conversation, and i also say goodbye to everyone . happy and all the best. visiting today. i was great. anna kikina. the only woman in the roscosmos cosmonaut squad and anton kaplyarov. it was a podcast of space stories.

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