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we have the most team player of our team mark kondratyuk mark hello hello welcome to my podcast. thanks a lot. say the first just always been so bright, yes , laconic, but let it be so you have a very summery, it seems to me that such an outfit is preparation for a vacation. i mentally already had a stamp lying on the beach 6 months before the olympics. and you, well, literally no one knew, only the most furious fans figure skating, they knew who mark kondrachuk was, and you took off so quickly you are recognized on the street quite often when they began to recognize you. well, probably the first time they recognized me right after the cup of the first channel of the very first, apparently, the tears of the successful women of evgeny medvedeva did their job. you were on the team the first time where i was leading. i remember very well how lonely you looked during the draw, because you were the last to join our team. tell me about your emotions, what did you feel when no one took you. well, to be honest,

it didn't surprise me at all. i understood that we had six, i’m not mistaken and biased was the most such weakest link for me , no one knew, and well, they didn’t know what to expect, so i was not surprised when no one knocked me out. i stayed. i went to my wife just on a leftover basis, but nonetheless. you became the joker in our team and skated better than anyone. well, maybe not the best, but it was pretty good. well, yes, it turned out there , it gave you confidence and felt that you can do for the team. even the olympic games to win, well, to win, of course, i did not think about this. but probably after that cup of the first channel. i realized that i have a chance to get to the olympic games, when i lost in terms of points, only misha i realized that if we continue in the same spirit, then there is a chance a year later to be at the olympic

games. misha is mikhail kolyada, our champion of russia, multiple and in the recent past the iron number one of the russian team, until mark contract appeared. by the way, you won quite a bit from him, you start russia is correct zero 67, if they are wrong, i really don’t remember, but less is not enough. yes, somewhere half a ball, it's a burden to be the first i had. slightly different emotions, not that the burden of some kind of responsibility, or rather a kind of impostor syndrome, as if i didn’t quite, deservedly, or something. i don’t know why there are no undeserved champions and everyone wants to be, but the first line. i'm in an interview somewhere. it seems to me that he told me that i really skated pretty well. and perhaps rightfully so. i don’t know if i won then, but there are slightly different feelings, i’m on

throughout my conscious life, i rode with a guide in front of my eyes in the face of sasha samarin, and, probably, that day it was very strange for me to feel that i was always striving for him, but he didn’t manage to get there, but i did it and it fit me a little inside , and you spoke to me on this subject. i think, yes, what he told you. supported. yes, the guys supported me a lot and with sasha dima makar, that is, without any envy. i am incredibly grateful for this that, despite the fact that somewhere there, i beat them somewhere, we all of us we remain such a kind of friendly four. so everyone understands perfectly well that this is a sport and well, either you went out and did everything, or you made a mistake , and you can only blame yourself for this and, probably, you can only be glad when others succeed, and this year we are in the first channel did such a comic interview

during the a stages of the russian grand prix where i asked stupid questions to the athletes and the question. who in your cd-cat of sokolovskaya's mittens of friends of these two groups is the son of my mother's friend, makar replied that you went? that is it's true, this is the most truthful answer. is it true or is it wrong. to be in part, but not in everything, in general. i want to go back to the twenty-first year, because in the twenty-first year you already shot russia, that is , then i saw who mark kondratyuk was i knew very well that there was a little boy in cska from the very childhood i saw you that you were a super talent , and then you didn’t have any high results outside of juniors. where did you disappear between children's sports and adults, where was mark the bony learned to jump fourteen alpha in the second half at first did not ride, was treated you had no hat. yes, that is not to say that this is some kind of super serious problem. i had to wait it out, because it was impossible to skate theoretically, looking

back. having already been cleaned, there are more serious injuries. and probably more severe pain. and i probably could ride now with such feelings, but at that moment, i probably didn’t imagine it and my mother and i decided that we need to take a break, you wait and they will go and then let's continue. skate, as far as you haven't skated in a year, that is, you haven't gone out at all for a year. yes, i read a lot, at that time i traveled there with my grandmother and mother, and i studied for about a year. with this, what helped you not to break down psychologically at that moment and did you always know that you would return a raid about not breaking down, i don’t know, i always had a rather calm attitude towards sports and an expressive achievement. that is , even some parents directly force the child to train. you must have me this has never happened. my mother always told me that well, it will work out well, it won’t work out or you don’t like it? let's finish

, let's go to study, or because it's like that, that is, here's my studies. how are you supposed to study. you must get a good education. and it's like a hobby, like something like that, so, probably, such an upbringing helped not to drive too hard about whether i would succeed later or not. i knew exactly what i would try. i know for sure that i will go out on the ice and ride for some time when my knees either pass, or well, calm down. well, then it will turn out well, it will not work out, but the whole life ahead can be realized in something else. and then the twenty-first year of the russian championship came and this unknown mark contractyuk took third place in the russian championship and got into the national team. i just remember the emotions of svetlana sokolovskaya she sobbed and hugged her, and i hugged her, and we were all so happy that it turned out that you looked like just a smiling guy, as if he didn’t understand that he did this and you was. well, in a sense. yes, i certainly didn’t

go there for a medal, i set myself the goal of baking fifth in russia, so if i get into the top ten it will be cool, like the debut championship of russia is normal. and, of course, i was very surprised by this combination of circumstances. i remember there the first couple of hours after the free skate. i was in some kind of misunderstanding, i was very funny and i felt bad, i don’t know, very funny feelings. i really didn't expect it to be so difficult. before entering the free program, i remembered the words. i'm probably not very clear and verbatim i will say, but the words of alexei yagudin that when if the type is not here, and now i thought that there might be such a great chance to fight the honey. there will never be again and we must do it now. well, it turned out that way and you went on. only upward progressively, then you were chosen for another very important role. you went to the oberzorv, where the recruitment for the olympic games takes place. and i also selected the third

quota for the olympic games in peak, and this is also very responsible and there were a lot of talks. there was a lot of press gossip. why exactly kondratyuk why exactly this guy? and i always remembered this channel one cup and thought that this guy would move mountains for the teams , and it happened and you returned, otherwise you were already such an intermediate hero, of that olympic season, probably, yes, that’s an intermediate one, but such a joke of this the start is that you are going there to mine. that's it, and it's very responsible. true, i was very worried. i was afraid to let down not myself, but the federation, the country, and perhaps because i skated badly there. someone else won't get in for the olympics. just your friends, moreover, because the floor is a collection. including your close friends at the championship of russia and there are only two places. well, that is, i was very nervous and scared, then plus you do all this and you don’t know whether everything that you

do will help you, firstly, but this is already secondary. sorry, he will interrupt and did not admit that it could be, and your third. here i allowed it. well, i had various options in my head. that is, it could be like may someone and not mine. i am at that moment didn't think about it. i had an iron goal to get it. and it doesn't matter there. well, if suddenly it will be cool for me, if for someone else, well, it means that i also made some good sense. did you become the champion of russia about this, we already talked about your emotions and the first unbeatable if, yes, for many years the second and then the european championship in 2 weeks and there mark antrachok comes out and already so confident brings in let's say rivals. that is, there you already looked completely different. you already looked like this. champion you got the first title and i went for the second, that is, you got some kind of sports hunger after the russian championship or you are not sure, probably, i just wanted to have fun. there, and,

probably, to prove to oneself in some way that the opening, perhaps, was gold just like that. it got there. well, further that you are preparing for the olympics and at the olympic games everyone is waiting for the announcement. who will ride in the team tournament. you felt calm, after all the exploits in the team tournaments that you had done before. you knew that you would ride in team or also felt in limbo , like the whole team. well, i found out that i'm skating the teams of this world already in beijing 2 days before the short one. well, that's how it all works out. don't know. i think that this particular moment, it seems to me, was not discussed when you wanted to participate in the team tournament. or you can make it up. i'd rather concentrate on having. i really, really, really wanted to compete there, well, let's not dissemble, in principle, a team medal. it was more real for our team for you specifically than for the single skaters personally.

for sure, of course, that's why , really, maybe you are absolutely right, the current headquarters, that you were preparing targets specifically for the commander. well, you didn't disappoint again. you went out again and drummed two programs. you were third in the short eight points brought the team, and then the second in the free nine points brought the team, and you became olympic champions. and everyone thought that the boys were the weak link, and then mark andertyug was the olympic champion, the second third of the programs. and that's when you got this. dunya with a gold wreath, you understand that you it was not in vain that you waited out your hatters, what did you think at that moment, that here it is, maybe it will not sound very right in relation to people for whom it was a direct dream, but when i stood on a pedestal, i thought in my head that on in fact, the path was more interesting than standing on a pedestal. i couldn’t believe

what happened, what happened to you , that i skated for 16 years in order to stand on some platform on this particular rink. i 'm talking backwards, though the whole journey was incredibly interesting with wins and losses with desire finish the desire to continue the desire to work or some kind of terrible, fatigue and so on, but it turned out to be more. influence on me as a person. probably you want, you stood there, i want to give you a kick straight for these 16 years 27 i'm 27 years old. but he spent it to become an olympic champion. so it gets worse. yeah, it gets better, it gets better, right? well, i mean, at that moment, you didn't have gleeful tears. no, at europe yes, i think that anyway all the athletes think about the same thing , they look back each with different

emotions, but everyone looks back and thinks how much he has gone before from this peak to this everest, life is completely before his eyes before death. yes, only sports okay, let's talk a little about the sad. i was visiting at the olympic games. after everything that happened to her. she said that there was one person who supported me very, very much at the olympics, this name is a brand for him. tell me a little about it and i don't really like to talk about it, because it will look like some kind of game, or maybe look like some example. maybe i'll try to formulate it from the outside. you know people, how they are. how they feel in this world, so they will think. don't try to be

perfect for everyone, it's impossible. i did this because i sincerely wanted to help and support. and it's not specifically in camille god forbid there will be her place, someone else. i would do exactly the same, because i think that this is the right human act. support a person at that moment and even more so when there are almost no people nearby who can support. well, especially when a girl, especially a very young one. i think it's just guys a human act. well, you yourself are not that much, you were just an adult guy, but, nevertheless, such a masculine and adult act. it's an honor. the sky the sea next to

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first of all, to the choice of music, because it seemed to me that i would not be able to skate like that throughout the entire time of the production and rehearsals. it seemed to me that way, and only when i skated for the first time at the show and i felt how the hall incredibly supports and madly this song enters, but this music found what genghis khan that is, you skated genghis khan yes, and all mongolian. the nation applauded you standing for this gift. well , maybe not worth it and maybe not all, but well done, then you went to the store, it was the case,

and we all saw it on social networks. you i bought myself these hats, which tried on a specific hat. we bought me and dima and lisa here. and when they thought that we were with her now. to do she lies with me, just lies on well, i personally envied you all very much that you went to mongolia but i have never been to mongolia and it is unlikely that i will ever go there, the presenters were not needed there in mongolian. i don’t talk and they took me, and they took you and this period, when it’s very difficult to go somewhere, when there is no show, when they are from international competitions, and then, as it were, i seems like such a great trip. uh, you came off there at all with the guys. like how i just don’t understand such exotics for me, that is, tell me at least something interesting. what is there our main goal? it really was very nice, that, well, in fact,

the first time since the olympics. we performed abroad and received a very warm welcome, that is, it is clear that for people this is not just noise. and this is just such a very important event, that is, 2 days 2 days of soldiers people, well, incredible warm welcome, that is, it is clear that this is for them, well, something special. well, maybe they don't have such big events so often. it was an event. yes, it was an event for them. this was evident, because they understood each participant, as they did not know, they gave 10 seconds. that is, it is true. unexpectedly, i did not think that it would be so, and it pleasantly surprised me, but returning, well, to the beginning of the story. yes, it's great that we managed to go somewhere abroad as an athlete, where we were warmly welcomed , we tried. i think everyone a show your maximum skate cool programs and

please the viewer. and what about the country? i did not expect that when i would be in mongolia , but it happened. i am very happy that i went there. this is such a very unique country in a way. that's just such asia asia, that is, there are korean chinese restaurants everywhere. that is, it is clear that the culture of these countries has greatly influenced, probably, yes, at least on modern mongolia. but you can absolutely see its own such aesthetics. and the fact that you're just going to the skating rink, and there is a city gradually turns into nothing, what's on the left , what's on the right? that is just the steppe and, of course, it amazes this one. imagination you miss international competitions a lot. well, i think so. of course i have just why not answered such can be that's certainty. because i didn’t have so many of them in general in my life, that is, i don’t know, there may be starts at 6 in

my career in total. six, well, seven, maybe, huh? olympic champion with only seven starts in the international arena, it seems to me that i didn’t have a single record and a low one with in life. i never got in, once because of my age, then twice my knees hurt, the fourth time, i didn’t qualify. in my opinion, the fifth year was covid, the sixth year, i was declared for two stages, but russia was not allowed into these two stages, and well, the seventh year, well, of course. that is, i don’t even eat interesting sports fate, my question was not correct, do you miss being defeated, just some guys, there must have been dozens, huh? it was i who had very little and even more so very little. well, i really miss and

hope that i will be able to go again and more than once i, as it happened, and i wish all our guys to still return to the international arena and that you and our entire team have as many international starts as possible in the future thank you let's now return to the past season, which turned out to be difficult for you. what, in principle, everyone who does their best at the olympics, very often happens next season. e crumpled with you, including tell me what happened this season. why such a result? well, even before the olympics, i started having problems with my back. and she was pretty difficult to prepare and train. that is some days. i understood that i couldn’t at all, then i started skating again and in such a floating state. well, lucky that here is a peak. he was, probably, three months ago three

olympiads and it became somehow easier for the games themselves and it turned out to get there. and then i just didn’t get treated, they didn’t see the problem that exists . yeah, and i just, in the sense of this, lived with this periodically rising pain, here, but at the stage. i skated a short one and then realized that i couldn't walk. i didn't lift one leg. even though it's been six months now. i don't even remember which one i got. it seems to me that there are a lot of procedures for these days between the short free program. i went to training and didn't jump at all. i just glided, it even hurt, well, go back. i just

glided forward like a christmas tree, it was evident, because i commented on these competitions. and you didn’t jump with him during the warm-up, not a single jump. i found. it seems to me that i jumped, just like some kind of triple cheerleader. that is, i directly followed, and you just skated, and then i was still alexander grisha told his colleague that something was wrong with mark. mark's forgiveness was jumping. it was my conscious decision. i felt and knew that if i go to some difficult place, where i can make a mistake. and if i make a mistake, i won't be able to go on the ice. and when i go out for hire, no, adrenaline, and i will reach the program, that is, well, good or bad, this is another question, but i will reach it. and if before the adrenaline hits me, i fall, i can’t just go to the start. and so it was just a conscious the decision to rent everything

to take a chance turned out to be not so bad at first, because i have the truth, i don’t remember, i think my left leg was raised like that and that’s it. well, then you followed a few months of treatment without competition. i also tried to compete at the russian championship. well, as if in the hospital , i rode a little the day before the short did salchow and decided what to say? well, it was like this , it’s not a selective olympics, maybe it was worth taking their health more seriously somehow and the result, looking back, would have gone and again. perhaps the stubborn marker still left. in particular, it tempers the character of the russian championship specifically. but,

for example, the stage in samara but now i know that you can jump quads and tomaxes on one leg, in fact. that is, if you were able to do it, then, well, how to say , when you do something in very difficult unnatural conditions, when you find yourself in ordinary conditions, it probably becomes somewhat easier. that is, i can, maybe a little strange comparison, but there i found when i was in good health there. i always jump quads both in the numbers, there and in the final, despite the small light area, and in the beginning it was hard for me, and then with experience i began to do them. and when i come to practice on a nice comfortable normal size ice with normal light.

well, it's just a free program podcast and we return to our conversation with olympic champion mark russian challenge the little prince of audience choice and such a decision of the judges it just seemed to me that the number was overloaded precisely with props, that there was very little of you and there was a lot of everything else. although the image, of course, was chosen very well, it was an idea. nikita mikhailov, we discussed this, we decided that we should stage stopudovo, it would be good. i heard repeatedly the opinion that the possibility of scenery was too much. personally, i like it visually, probably, if there would be a little more time in terms of a little more music, but it would turn out like a ride. it could have been more and it would not have been an inquisition. and he

wouldn't have had so much in the eyes there. parts viewers, but i don’t know, i like how it was, but the judge’s assessment offended you, or the main thing is that people liked you, they don’t offend me. i live by the principle that i ride the judges are worth the score. i can be it agree disagree. this is something secondary, i don’t know, i always think that they gave me points. well, then i dashed off on such points. so this show does not differ from ordinary competitions in this respect. well, probably, too, you know, it didn’t flash, therefore. well, to be honest, camila rode a pedan there and i don’t know, i somehow assumed that he would have under 20 points. and when i heard that he had 17, i thought no. well, i'm a bitch, cute is always the case and there's nothing. well, we also missed you very much at

another jumping tournament, which you did not participate in, you watched the guys. yes, i watched, it seems to me that at that moment i was either in the hospital, or just got out of it, and i was still offended, despite the fact that i understood what state i was in now. i was very hurt and sad that i was not there. here's hoping that this year, this coming season, everything will be fine. i still participate, i want to fight there. you can imagine, i also hope that this tournament will take place. i will also participate in it, only in a different capacity, as usual. i really hoped, returning to the russian challenge. do you even know what i expected from you? you are an artist. i was waiting for you to do something, like this. here in his here in this artistic style of art. that maybe you will draw something, maybe you did something that you didn’t think in this side? i think about art. we absolutely. you just recently returned from

training camp and these training camps took place in a very unexpected place. at least for me in altai. i was there too, but on a rehabilitation basis. we were the two of us , let's say. so we had such a recovery fee. i kinda liked it. in general, i was delighted with altai. how about you? i also really liked it, there is crazy nature. we lived in an incredibly picturesque place, and either a cactun and in the middle of the river there are two small islands on one of which the hotel costs. that is, you move sushi or cross the bridge to the island with the hotel. he. well, it's straight big island, that is, there is a giant hotel, a place where to take a walk. and from this island there is another bridge to the second, where there is just a forest and well , just a very picturesque place.

wherever you go, everywhere there is a river, hills, trees, that is, just like that, well, picturesque russia, even you drive away, again, from the place where you live, you come to the skating rink, it’s beautiful to eat on some kind of excursion, it’s beautiful there, yes we are the guys went rafting and rode quad bikes. and it really makes a very cool impression. i didn't expect it to be so beautiful. i have repeatedly heard that everyone says altai is very cool very picturesque cool. but, probably, while it seemed to me. i was not sure the veracity of these words. we were also in the eleventh year of the camp and immediately after our first world championship and us we traveled a lot on it. uh saw just incredible. natural some just heavenly views. here i am too always want to go back. that is, you want to tell our viewers that altai is a must

visit. altai is cool. come, i understand correctly that it was a dry gathering in altai, that is, without ice. no, we skated, and you skated, yes, that is, there is also a skating rink. yes, about 20 minutes away. here is the hotel. yes, there is a skating rink and quite modern there are large halls. we had a full collection. but just not super intense because someone just got back from vacation there. well, i haven't gone on vacation yet. that's why we have there was one ice, one ofp or cross or both, and here we played volleyball a couple of times. i mean, it's a huge room. we pulled the net and played straight. i don’t know, we were tested by 12 people, it was right full. yes, and a coach. vitaly butikov and andrei borisovich koritsyno used to play with us, usually

plays. but this time, in my opinion, i did not play. but, when we go to kislovodsk, almost everyone participates, that is, this collection was rather a hitch. after this season, or still warming up before the next one. i think that also and that, because the first part of us knows the training is quite active, and the second one , specifically, i had such a recovery most of it. that is, i went to various massage procedures. and in the bathroom, including recover and prepare after rest for the new season with what mood then do you look at the future next season with enthusiasm that they were waiting for you, kondratyuk himself honestly sounded coming back sweeping away everything and everyone in its path. it's embarrassing for me to say that. i'm not that kind of person, but

will i try to skate well? how can i well, i'll try, probably, they put the program better, and i'm running the short one. yes, the short one. and that is, nikita is arbitrarily also nikita, but still in the process of staging. do you like it yourself? yes , i don’t know why they didn’t continue cooperation with angelica, but if they didn’t think about replenishing the demonstrative program, i just trust nikita very, very, very much. you were the music and the most staged, because repeatedly it was that i did not like, in part, that i was staged? but i was convinced that it was cool. and i must just wait and see and it will be great. and when they told me this, i kind of stepped on myself there and thought that well, if adults are professionals to me, they say, so i will endure and look, and ultimately in my subjective opinion. it turned out

well, i know perfectly well that it doesn’t matter. well, it would be wrong, in principle , to ask such questions and you definitely won’t answer it, but still a little bit like this, let’s touch on this topic about your new programs, the fans are waiting. how drastically different will this and the news program of the season from the previous or approximate it will be the same mark short, that is, the seasons are straight hearts. thanks a lot. what is the old mark, if in terms of some kind of drive and dynamics? well, maybe in part, right? in terms of the idea of ​​​​musical accompaniment to this concept, but no, it’s different, of course, something from the fact that i have some of my strengths, it will be present, but simply because, well, i have such a strong side, why not use it, but also develop at

the same time willing to develop in what is the case not in new music in some new, probably new style. at least in the short one, for sure, if the free one is somehow possible, probably. connect to other programs. with a stretch, that short is specifically a new, probably, musical direction. well, it’s very musical , that is, it will be, so well, there probably is a development intrigued very soon we will all know in 3 months , the test skates of the russian national team and i wish you to attend them to ride in full force with a healthy drift, and so been all season. thank you very much for coming with us was invited by the olympic champion mark kontraktyuk. the most modest, probably, the olympic champion in the world. and just a good guy. thanks a lot. it was a free program podcast. i am maxim tarankov and my