do you know the admiration that i experienced in about 10 seconds? we ended up, god knows, at 3-4.000 delight, i'm just myself envy, i dream that you tried to ask they will give you, by the way, when i and i wanted to share my stories. yes, because it seemed to me that that's how much my life has changed, uh, at 40 years old. yes , and it seems to me that we have a lot of women who do not represent. how can it be, right? what, what, what is ahead and at 40 and at 50 and you can always change everything started social networks. by the way, well, they began to subscribe more men than women. but i started posting on social networks when i started doing aerobatics, uh, i started posting my videos of the barrel roll, the loop, and there were a lot of discussions. oh look uh. people discussed my hair , that i have hair in and this is that the hair stays

in place, that they don’t understand, don’t fall and began to write that this is all editing, is it computer graphics? i say, yes, we have a whole department right at the airport, which deals with computer graphics, and i began to shoot videos even for schoolchildren. now. it seems to me that this can be shown at school. i recently flew, handed over control to the instructor, asked him to fly with me, and i showed pouring liquid, a into a glass. uh, the instructors of the second cabin made a loop, and i showed that you can sit in liquid and the top point when you flip it will be exactly the same face in a glass. yes, er, here, but everyone perceived that many are not all, of course, but that this is some kind of magic miracle , this is just fifth grade physics, as they say, maximum overload. come on, what's eight? no? no, we have a practical six. uh, more than six there. uh, rarely and not

necessary. no, why did i ask? i'm just on the loop once it was 6.5, my plank fell once black in my eyes. nothing, absolutely no other sensations. simply a bunch and black for a few seconds. but i was not the only one sitting behind the instructor, he intercepted. although, i didn't feel anything at all, a rather strange feeling. just the bar fell just once and black-eyed. well, it really didn’t happen for you in a completely standard way, because the standard one is blackness comes on the sides and gradually vision collapses to a point and the pilot, in principle, can regulate yes overload and simply weaken the overload and then it all diverges fat, and i fly against the g-suit. it's clear. but this is understandable, not everyone flies. here is my instructor without him. he has a very strong press. oh, on the contrary, he

says that against an overload suit , it relaxes. how can i continue this conversation endlessly, but let's call everyone kaluga i really want people to come to you in kaluga and see how wonderful it is. yes come to us, please, on excursions on many excursions. i visit in person, especially on weekends and on many excursions. i am present with pleasure to show the children, especially i will tell all the videos about aerodynamics. here we are very hospitable and gladly share our knowledge. oh, we all want to fly on the podcast today, we were in kaluga. yulia krylova has a candidate master of sports in high aerobatics on a jet, by the way, plane. where we invite you all. i am lady yakubovich delighted. from that, or from that with whom i met today, everyone wants. fly up

connection, thanks. this is a podcast triggers and tatyana krasnovskaya, a psychologist, a psychotherapist and a psychologist, a psychotherapist sergey, are with you . today we have anna hello. hello anna tell us what you came to us with a few months ago. i was diagnosed with severe depression. ugh me too. well, yes, it's been a few months. i still cannot accept the fact of having this diagnosis and, accordingly, those moments when it would seem necessary to provide self-support , some kind of help. well, this is out of the question each time it seems to get worse and worse. yes, i scold myself constantly and well, as if

from myself that you are now gathering and just the winners, it seems, well, there is not enough strength for some elementary actions. i scold myself every time. you are lazy there. what kind of depression do you have? that in general there she went crazy, but something doesn’t work at all. how old are you 21, with all that, you were examined by hormones. here's your diagnosis. based on, including your physiological state of physiological state. just in general, everything is fine in the case of severe depression, or there is an asthenic syndrome. there should be indicators of your hormonal failures. this is what your diagnostic picture looks like . i didn’t have hormonal fees. as far as i know, there were some. that's what mri is all these studies of the brain. there may have been some shifts

there, but they explained it to me, but i don’t really understand, you were prescribed an antidepressant in this, i was prescribed antidepressants, but at some point i stopped drinking them, because it becomes like it just seems to get worse and worse. well, that is, there is constant drowsiness, uh, and in general, some side effects and, well, how to go , let's say, to a new psychiatrist, because, well, it happens that, well, it doesn't fit, it's desirable change doctor. and, well, i already lack moral strength, like, i'm not ready again, uh, to sleep for days. i'm not ready, there again, uh, well, as if there are basic forces now. yes, there somewhere to go somewhere to go here. here, yes, i came here and and as if i'm not ready, probably, to return. right at the very beginning, when it was 10 times worse, that is, now i can at least get up to wash my hair from this series, and you came to a psychiatrist at a time when even your head could not help. no, well, i probably came, a little earlier, let's say. so, that is, when i

was just basic sleeping and sleeping a lot 24/7. it’s just that in general, i came to work and work in the office, and i could make myself coffee and hold a mug and just like that, you yourself made such a decision yourself. well, i have a young man insisted with depression. you are working? you have a young man, as it were. well, here's how it would seem, yes, i am, therefore, i am also convinced of myself that i held on to the fullest. but where does depression come from, if you have a temporarily young person to work, that is, how would you have the strength to do all this. well, well, and here you are. a psychiatrist, who, respectively , is a rock child for you. yes, you have severe depression, a depressive disorder for sure. remember how accurate it is, severe depression. yes , they explained. that's when your mri's checked did all your tests, paid some kind of tribute

, explained to you at least somehow the mechanics of your disease, because, well, the word is severe. depression is probably not quite a diagnostic concept. but if you have been diagnosed with a depressive disorder, let's say you have a severe form of clinical depression, including this, it could be something like this. well , they somehow explained how it doesn’t work for you here, it doesn’t work here. and here it is being processed. somehow you figured it out. well, i didn't understand. yes, it is precisely in terms of some physiological processes that there is not much. we are there uh, plus or minus could be discussed. yes? uh, exactly what external factors the magnet to this lead to in 90%, it's like i don't have severe depression. i just have, well, winter apathy. it started spring got worse. i kind of hoped that this spring it would be easier to understand your parents. some kind of participation in your treatment, they don’t know at all, well, because , as if dad is not up to it in general, and my mother, well, such a person is very difficult, how would

i tell her once again and make sure that, well, those phrases that i say about myself, what kind of depression you have for 0 years, what a fool you are uh-huh well, why hear this? again? i myself can say this, somehow the manifestation does not occur at all. well, we are with her yes, we see each other, but it happens there in the format in the evening in the format in the morning and that's it. as if. well, ah, that is, you live together. yes, you live with your parents, yes, with your mother and living with your mother you manage to do. so she doesn’t even know what that is, you just attribute it to a bad mood. that how how it should be practically, well, or if so, is she something asks. i say that, well, just what are you, everything is fine? uh-huh yes, always, probably, and dad, too, was always not up to you, apparently. no. it seems to me that dad was always

before me, and then, when more children were born to him, well, there, it’s not like he fell out of love with me. parents are divorced, and parents appeared divorced. well, it seems logical that the focus of attention has also shifted a little. and, as it were, it's understandable. well, why load him with some other problems, given that well, most likely, he is also of conservative views. and well don't appreciate this is my diagnosis. and how long have you been living separately with your dad at 3 years old, in my opinion, divorced, right? anya, i will ask such an unexpected question, maybe for you. and at what age did you first encounter such a stable, perhaps feeling that no one loves you. i don’t remember, you know it, as if it ’s always a reference that goes through life, probably 100% i knew it all. uh, a year ago

, just under a year ago, when i, uh, also went to the doctor's office, and she asked me, well, about family affairs. here i am i say, well, dad loves me so much in general, he, but we don’t see each other, no matter how he calls me. well, i know that she loves me the most, and she looks at me like that and says. well, what makes you think that he loves you at all? and i look into it like that and think, damn it, really. this, probably, was such a moment when i, well , accepted it, it was like, well, i heard it. yes, probably that's the point they heard, perhaps they faced this reality, perhaps. but there are some, let's say, moments that show that, well, there, they love me father and mother. well, just in their own way, of course, they love in their own way, of course, they love, but not at all the way you wanted, of course, and

now we will deal with them now, but see here the important point is that 21 year, in general, it would be possible to live without their love. yes, what does not admit, it is like a fact and flutter, in fact, from this nest. well , until you asked, i actually was sure that, well, as if i had accepted this moment a long time ago. why did i suggest that perhaps this will be unexpected for you? question i started to think about it quite early, and in general. it seems to me that somehow i stopped relying on my parents a very long time ago. in general, i stopped expecting some kind of support from them, some kind of a love, and well, it’s like there’s no such thing that i hmm constantly think about it, that i constantly miss you all the time. no, she's just 21. it would seem that the period when he would already lean, and even break away from all this, but

there is as if a part of you that leaves you all the time in this nest, in the expectation that, nevertheless, they must come to their senses and finally manifest your life did not. somehow they are unhappy. they just don't know how. they just don’t know how, that is, you’re right, they love, because they consider it possible, because they think it’s true, at some point when they got divorced, they might not be up to you at all, most likely, and this feeling of loneliness feeling of deep dissatisfaction. it is just the same, and it gives birth, then the very depression. now, if we try to understand the etymology of the word. do you already understand, yes, what depression is under pressure? that is, there is a word press. yes, accordingly, it depresses, it presses, but it is very important here that you

suppress inside, because if we are not talking about medical depression. my guess is that if you had a medical clinical indication for what is called clinical depression, you would at least be admitted to a neurosis clinic. that's why i suspect. something that the doctor called severe depression, but let's write it off for the fact that this is such a psychological depression , some kind of depressive disorder yes, that's it then we can say that you suppress something inside yourself. what kind of anya and what feelings, what generally suppresses there inside? well, nothing, what will happen if suddenly tomorrow you wake up an absolutely happy person, what will change, what will collapse, because you don’t like it. your work , young man, will remain,

this feeling did not communicate with her at all. i cross out the feeling at which you turn around and leave . how do you say everyone. that is, you suppress this same anya who may not go to work tomorrow to stop communicating with my loved ones and everything that makes it i don’t know, there to enjoy the company of my young man. but there are some external circumstances. 100% yes, but these external circumstances. they, uh, can really be problems in realizing it, but you decided to suppress it yourself , as if, if it does not suppress, it will be even worse that i would like to kill tatyana now. yes, you can imagine this is reality. yes, but at the same time with everything, but i have a desire, to kill her is one version of the feelings that i experience at this moment, and the other option that i sit and suppress it feel, then, well, now at least. i would look

inadequate. i would have no interest in your conversation, because everything i did. i would sit accordingly and crush myself with this feeling at the end of the program. i would definitely bring myself to depression. because then you'd overwhelm with this layer of nothing, what do you call it? i don't feel anything, i don't have anything. this one here, the very state that is above this press, and under the press your desire to make a sharp action , the desire to get away from the page, push away. he it’s just that it’s all the same within the framework of some everyday circumstances, yes, but i can’t do it so abruptly. i would like, and why and what are your everyday circumstances, let's say, yes, there, to move out, er, and somehow separate from your parents as much as possible. it, well, needs a little more capital. e. well, that's elementary. yes, it does not allow you to earn this capital. i

still don’t understand at all why capital is needed, that you can rent an apartment from your parents, you can rent a room there, you can live in general. and, well, there are options, actually are available or often seem to be too expensive. this is not always the case, but i don’t know how the world is arranged in your picture, because, well, there i have been living in a hostel since i was 17 years old. so , too, you can enter the institute on a budget with a hostel, even so you can at 21:00. yes, and later you can, that is, there are options, but you seem to see only one picture , that you are moving out from your mother to a rented apartment now, as far as i know, it is very popular to rent an apartment with uh somehow to expand on the trinity, like now, that is, you can also eat a huge amount accounts or some now are called publics, where people offer it. so, too , it may not be quite customary to be true. well then, as much as possible there is not at all such a lot of

money for this. well, i ask here, just then you seem to leave from there, leaving everything as it is, nothing will change there, but this part that expects that something will change before. here it depresses your responsibility, and in fact your desires. it's just so weird. well , as if it was already clear for a very long time that nothing will change. so it won't change. this does not mean at all that our offended part will not wait for it to change. you know, children often have such thoughts. here i will die. and all of you pay even it, perhaps it will change from a higher probability it will change, if you don’t wait for such things, it seems that i don’t wait. well, of course, an adult. and with you , his leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya

, on how to overcome depression at 21, what do you work with? i must say, i'm a psychologist, i'm being treated, your first education came out. well psychologist. well, in what course, as well as at the journalism faculty, in general, depression is a normal state of the third year, journalism faculty and the third year of the psychology faculty. well, if he is at that age. because you are processing so much information into depressive literature that cannot but plunge you into this state. in general, if you read psychological literature, it is easy to come to the conclusion that life is a continuous pain. just like classical literature . so good. you would like to work with

a psychologist. and now you are working secretary. would like to work as a psychologist, judging by all while psychologists can not work. naturally. uh-huh, you are in absentia, that is. in general, you have something to work with, right? why don't you work? well, the other area, i don't know now a huge number of options, but there is a very long history. why do i even work at this job and there, again, the plot is normal. and if you say that you don’t care about some kind of story, you even go to work, because your mother said. obviously work, you can definitely change and judging by the way you say that you say your salary is not enough to keep for this place, of course because mom is patronized. the salary doesn't seem to be what you're looking for. well, it is obvious that well , suppose you are developing x rubles. yes , exactly the same x rubles earned elsewhere will bring you more pleasure than this first one here. what needs to

be dealt with. i thought about it a lot last year as well. and i practically quit, but in general, something went wrong, that i was very scared, of course, this is normal. well, some kind of this unknown, it is very scares. and as it were, well, it is logical, that you need to take this step, because in itself nothing will change, but somehow there is a lot of fear. uh-huh, i understand correctly that work in this company or somewhere works there, and that's all, as if some kind of condition of your mother, that in this case she pays for your education. no, i pay in training. i'll pay for everything. why are you working there? what for? well , because. again, she put in a lot of effort, let's say, to put me in this job. and if i plan on quitting with her, uh, then uh. i need quickly pack your things and move out, and

as if you have to, apparently you do it, because it is obvious that after this program your employer will look at her and your mother too and it is unlikely that you will stay there to work. here, and at the same time with everything in this uh company, where you work is also impossible to make a career, well, there is no psychologist. no psychologist. you can stand there as a director, for example, i am gradually studying psychology, as if at some point the fuse with which i came there, because well, before that i worked there in a catering in sales let's call it that and naturally, there, well, there was a different fuse. and here i sort of sat down like that, and in a few months i, well, how would i sit here. it turned out very comfortable, of course, depressed state. well, it didn't even exist back then. it's quietly , quietly, how tina likes at home. everything is very clear, and it became depressing at work. everything is very understandable, depressing. well, look,

you are slowly slowly, as if tightening this tina over yourself. and your young man, how is your relationship with him? in general, everything is fine. well support. just. and also because he is studying. yes, there is no super-profitable work there, but there is no way to take everything and leave abruptly. this is probably the only area that still pleases, then there is definitely no need for depressant claims. because it will also go out, so here i am, well, i don’t want your depression to somehow impose, but an imprint on your relationship with your young man. well , very often there is a fear that if it’s bad with me, there will always be a person with whom good or easy, and then what do you do when such a thought is nothing. usually i

provoke some. so well, that is , quietly destroy the relationship. yes? yes, great. you are well done. you excel on all fronts. yes, look in order to grab the next branch. you need to let go of this one in order to open another door, you need to close this one, in any metaphor you like. yeah, but you're going to have to sort of leave the whole place that you're in. it's like it squeezes you out. it's the same thing when it's time for a child to be born, he faces the fact that the whole body of the mother, which until this moment was its shell, the carrier-feeder, is there, i don’t know love. yes, suddenly, at one fine moment , he begins to reject him, and this is a severe injury. for the one who is to be born and the child at this moment goes through the most difficult paths. the most difficult tests, nothing more difficult in life, we will never have to go through. if you do not believe in the next life

after death, the child passes, that is, nature has laid down that he is able to survive this. emotional mental. yes, a child is born in shock, because only shock allows them to do it, you will do exactly the same thing. if you are fired now from all these circumstances, you will be fired from your job. after our transfer, your mother will kick you out and you will find yourself with a knapsack, and on the street near the kazansky railway station, where you will need to spend one or two nights, at least in order to gather your thoughts in this, yes, then you are then at the pinnacle of success. look, tell me , lord, how did i live it, like any person who achieves success, but just there would be a child who does not know that he is a couple to be born. but here now you understand, after all, now you seem to be pooping, yes, and if you already know how, uh, that a caterpillar, it begins to pupate. for a caterpillar, pupation is death, so not a single

caterpillar is aware that it will be born as a butterfly ; it is a full-fledged living organism that consciously goes to this death for the subsequent metamorphosis metamorphosis is the transformation of one into another. if at all, in principle, you see some anya who is able to be happy. why did i say what will happen if you will be happy tomorrow now? but what if and in general there is at least a fantasy of some anya who is capable of this happiness women's happiness, professional happiness, personal happiness. yes, then in order for it to happen there, here must, how do you say it's a caterpillar? you understand this moment. it is coming, but rebirth will not happen , this morphosis will not happen if you do not take this step. this step is growing up and 21 years old, this is exactly the same age. feeling, just, like at some point, if before, and i knew that i was real. well, i seem to be able to do something, that is, the feeling that i

can’t do anything at all, that i can’t imagine anything at all. and well, in general, i'm sitting, in general, no one knows how to do anything. and where will i go. and what am i going to do. an you live with the feeling that no one needs you and no one will pull you out of this depression, no one will come after you and save you. you can stay there you know how it ends. how will you feel slowly slowly sergey has now painted a picture of how everything will begin gradually die off. you can stay there. yes, i understand, but look, is it even possible to talk about three with dad, and no mom. it's just impossible they don't communicate. yeah , maybe your conversation with your mom is yours with your dad separately. and where you would be able to convey to them and describe to them your condition is also

impossible. they won't listen, and they won't agree to support you, for example, for the year that you live. why well , some life situations show that you don’t have to rely on them. some people's lives. maybe neighbors, maybe some of your friends who need help more than you alone . old. perhaps the old sense of the elderly or the old sense, you know for a long time she needs a psychological excellent. well , where you live there are some, but women, grandparents, grandparents, who look at least lonely. i don't even know, i don't pay attention. you try to pay attention. that's when you go to work. yes, look, maybe you will see

a few people around you who need more help than you. depression is also dangerous because at this moment your ego captures and holds attention to itself very strongly. i say, as the future and one of the elements through which we can get out of this depression, and so that they understand, hippocrates treated depression with warm enemas, that is, it was clear how this was treated before. yes, where did your parents get such a knee-deep attitude, what is it everything is nonsense and fiction, so one of the elements that will be very useful to you now is to expand your attention and see people who need help more. what do you need. because if we look now, well , you see what the situation is around how many people need help today, because they were left homeless. without close relatives there. well, and so on. yes, if at that moment you see that they need help, and you are actually a carton of milk. you can

change a lot. just in the evening, bringing an old woman's milk carton, a kilogram of bread, potatoes, no matter what, yes, then you are through it, well, how would you find for yourself, and the very thread through which you will begin to crawl out, because today it seems to us, when we get into this depression, that i have problems, but from the point of view of a huge number of people. you are obsessed with fat. how do you understand? do you have a job that is someone's dream job? you have blood, which is for someone's dream home, right? you have a mother, and for those who suddenly lost her, this problem is more than something that you have a young man. you learn to understand, but i absolutely. beautiful i agree with you that when we enter into this depressive state, yes, then we look at everything that we look at, we will see it in a depressive light and getting out of it always helps a lot through helping other people. try to see it won't. well , it costs you a lot, but you will gain meaning,

because again from the point of view of the humanistic psychology that you will be going through. you will see that there are semantic crises. yes, that is, which are with loss of meaning. they just introduce us to a state of depression, and that's where the personality begins. how fall asleep once. you need to wake up wake up. this requires new meaning. find people who need help more than you might think, as if this is some kind of devaluation, or something, the story in no way do we understand that it's true here is the idea to give, why did you come. this is just about this exit towards which it is worth digging. triggers and with you we are its hosts tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist, psychotherapist psychologist psychotherapist, and we

we talk about depression and how to overcome it. you know, i once gave it to my daughter. in my opinion. the most valuable piece of advice, uh, she ever took. i told her that if you dream of something, but for some reason it seems to you that you cannot realize this dream, well, due to lack of resources, yes, then always find it where others realize this dream. that is, you have a dream, whatever it was, you could become a psychologist. maybe some more? yes, try to get as close as possible to the place where other people implement. uh-huh and be useful to these people. you will learn a lot. at least it helped her. i'm sure it will help you. and i have no time. you helped to find the very work in the environment to be near to bring. i don’t know about tea, relatively speaking, but to be where people realize this dream in general or the life of your dreams. and it's cool, as

a demanded good specialist with a lot of knowledge. well, either a house or an apartment dog husband, well, that's all. freedom freedom in some actions freedom in self-expression you work pleasantly in your specialty. you are a psychologist who sometimes conducts trainings. i have some kind of super cool cozy office, and i lead, mostly full-time.

when do you have it on tv? what are you talking about about how to get out of depression? great why not? a great idea on how to get out of depression, start right today start keeping a diary and write down life hacks, how does it work for you, where there are failures will not be the same, yes, if you feel, relatively speaking, such a cool psychologist who helps people get out of depression, how can you help them. if you yourself would never have entered this depression. so you consciously entered me further, your task, conscious to get out of it. it's like going into a dark room. if we had more time, if we had more such a psychoanalytic session, then i would, of course, suggest that you go through your salon on your mother, yes, whom you reject. well, you will deal with this in psychoanalytic sessions when you go to a psychoanalyst. this is also part of the job. but if we are talking about

out of depression, then this is what i told you, it will be right steps for you right now, then you can say that you yourself came up with it, but you don’t refer to me, and you are drivers of people out of depression, but you will see, but this works for many years. it works for millennia, when there was no such thing as depression book. are you on the first page of the title page? i think that you write what i understood, in fact. why did i have this depression? i hope, yes, you can start this book today. right today you can write who is the first page by asking yourself this question. why why? i needed this depression , if you see how many people you end up helping, that people will republish your book in order to cope with this depression, as specifically one that allows you to write books. so, really, it all worked out. look, first of all, i definitely want to recommend one book to you. although

you should have already encountered it. this is viktor frankl. yes, a concentration camp psychologist. say life, yes, yes, i heard, but right now you are starting to read, and the second book, which will be of interest to you as a specialist. this is work. it's called work. and this is just a woman who showed herself. not being a psychologist, i found myself on the floor in the clinic. e with depressive disorders, when they already turned away from me, everyone else could no longer live with her. and this book is about how she got out of this depression. yes ok thanks. tell us what you are leaving with motivation with some kind of fuse to start changing something. why to be happy? let's sum it up again, so to speak, the result is not to change something, but look around and see who you are around you, it can help more than

you, the first thing to do is to divert the focus of your attention from yourself. start serving people with small deeds, and you will be stunned at how much , but you can do it, even if you are a believer, for example, you can just go to the temple every saturday to pray for other people, and this will also be so many it will make sense for you. now he is 21 years old. there is no such meaning, and it does not exist, if you do not create it, it's good. write it down really do? it is very useful. thank you thank you. well, it was

a trigger podcast, and you and i were its leading psychologist and psychotherapist, tatyana krasnovskaya and a psychologist and psychotherapist. sergey on himself. our guest was anya , a young beautiful girl with whom we talked about depression. roman karmanov elena yes, our guest is jazz musician igor butman oleg neatly i wanted to beg igor to introduce oleg kuratov, as he does on stage when he introduces his musicians. this is a separate part of the usual concert, absolutely brilliant and better. than butman no one will do it. this is a unique unique, talented, unique, educated, well-mannered and very pleasant person, oleg neat, whom i first saw. well,

we saw each other where we saw each other. first time. i went to your club to see me, yes, well, not quite small, this is 2000, the fifth year. i was 0 years old 14 or 15 or 16 i can already walk. i did not even have time to understand anything, and then i was international competition world, jazz in rostov-on-don, the dialect was one of the contestants. naturally, as soon as he started playing, it was clear that this grand prix would immediately go to oleg akatorov. nikolai yanovsky and i, a wonderful pianist, an outstanding fattening composer, shed a man 's tear, because we are because when you see such talent, you just touches you. you know, when our athlete bylkovsky won the olympic games, in 2004, i think. and when he overtook everyone, so to speak, all the people in the world. eh, on

that moment of the best, who is also such a pride of this pride, you always have such tears of joy, as they said a famous hero , so that's the same thing, we saw it both of us. if so, then, of course, the musician who sings knows great music the history of music plays classics jazz plays. he knows folk songs and sings in all languages ​​of the world, so it’s impossible to imagine him differently than i imagine her , which means you met. i'm just here to come to you to a living legend of jazz. can you meet? this is me for those who want come up. but there are such talents, collectors, in general, you can not even be unwell. this is how talented people are treated by and large , since we are talking about the creative industry. here you have to be proactive and not be afraid that they won’t see you, they won’t understand, if talented, that is, you will notice. he is such a country that he notices our talents. mostly. if you are engaged, so to speak, you are doing something, as

a creative kind, so to speak, activity, then you will go away peppers, what do you like? if if you love, you want to pass this love on to other people. and how to convey it must be said, if you need to meet a person, and you want you have to tell him. i love you. from where he knows everyone, pass on the emotion to the energy. well, when we met, but i met you, i played the channel. i was with him, as if familiar. thirst many years ago suddenly played a musician who i had not heard in america whom i had not heard anywhere in other countries a musician who had every second. it's not just something learned, it's every second. creative oleg say a. at the age of 14-15, we went to the club then rostov, uh, and i say i saw it on stage. and if all this had not happened, you now have a good idea of ​​russian jazz in general, the music industry. here, what would happen next, if this meeting had not happened, you somehow didn’t even ask yourself this question,

what would happen to me if i didn’t participate, uh, with igor if i didn’t play with him the moscow jazz orchestra has now performed like a super-choke pinocchio, that is. well, igor a very good person, because i love him very well, i respect him with great pleasure, i always want to communicate with him, play and play, play all the time and work in his team. i say, here in your team, whoever you take. here you are, when you imagine, this is the winner of all possible competitions, both on this side and on the other side of the ocean. in general, americans, when they hear they cry, do not sob like children. that's all on the same stage under your leadership. yes, there is another group. where are also collected. here's more there are the best, probably, or you already have everything, well, in our country. well, not everything is better, unfortunately, i cannot combine all the best, because the orchestra assumes 18 people. i

'd love to invite it to be some new show where you can do anything. then invited. you are a producer. when do you gather musicians, do you understand? yes? here we are still talking about music, we still play music. we, we have certain forms in which we are trying to find something new to find a new form to take five tubes. well, that means we need to write one more part for the trumpeter for one more trombone. uh, a symphony orchestra suggests, let’s say there are some 100 people 120 people, maybe, yes, you understand on the other hand, but there are wonderful musicians who play, make their own compositions, some who don’t play with me, but it would be what to do in the next century of jazz, because i'm sure that hmm , young very talented guys are coming to my shifts. well, change. why should someone immediately take the baton and continue this to do, because it is clear that such work is given and the fruits. she gives pleasure to people

who come to concerts. it is this new talents that reveals itself. they could have gone into classical music. these artists go anywhere, but they went to the music that i loved we made. so these talents are such as oleg neat, evgeny is beaten there. anton chikurov eduard here are the dead musicians who work with me ilya morozov i am alexander long-haired, yes, and ivan akatov. these are all musicians who they are in demand both as a soloist of my orchestra and as soloists of other orchestras and as soloists they have projects, so they should go further, but i should not end up alone on one person. i set an example, maybe, and i'm sure that oleg will take this baton, and then he will find some young talented guys. yes , he is growing, growing, he has a human musical experience, as for the creative industry, again , so that people understand this creative industry, where absolutely everything is possible, and there are wonderful composers who

still make up to show colleagues how vocalists he is in a solo program. uh, that's why he sings foreign songs and cossack-kazakh cossack songs folklore, tula folklore, krasnodar folklore sing kuban uh, you can ask for something. oh, capella, i can have time, if you want to sing, it would be very cool, yes, oh , yes, i will become punishment girls. river on kai yes, i will become girls before such

a finale, by the way, suddenly i had such a question. i often sit on the jury at children's competitions, and when children start singing jazz, they teach him. yeah, it's clear that they teach him. they don’t feel it, maybe this feeling should come with age, in general, like a jazz school, that is, a child comes. he wants to win the competition, but not everywhere and not always, not in every genre. and here is the question for the new shift, which will come and synthesize it, because for them this technology is a technique. yes, what do you say that when a real feeling of jazz comes, i understand that it may not come, you see , this is where we mix, again two concepts people have talent, they have feelings, because when there is a competition, everyone wants to win the competition. uh-huh. therefore, if you have a competition, let's say the piano. you must learn everything

well. that's right and then you win, and you learned best of all, you interpret best of all. you win a jazz competition. children, mothers, fathers, teachers are afraid to lose, so they memorize in such a way that they are not this, just a jazz interpretation of any kind of musical structure. but they learn it all by heart, and i try with it to fight and even many talented girls who even saw with us. i say improvise. you don't need to study. she says i learned to improvise. you don't need much. you can sing better and this excitement of creativity will come to you at the moment of the very performance, you will understand. you know you play the piano. you know music. you are a talented person. oh no, she learns everything and gives it away. yes, that's how, and when you sing already learned a completely different thing, it

can be well written. maybe done well. well if it's every day you play it disappears. here is jazz charm in music, why do i love mine? i when the first competition, when i was in rostov-on-don, i see that we have two compositions for the peasants to play, and they choose the first composition themselves. and then no, then there was generally one composition, and now they are playing. i watch him play. well, the man is playing. well, great. i think, wow, and then i say, and you play there, well, some kind of jazz standard there, he starts playing and the kurlyk kurlyk. well, that is, jazz, it's a continuous creative must be not only jazz, music is creativity. this is life all the time. it’s easy, when they really lead, there is such a tatyana chernigovskaya who says that children definitely need music, and she develops and expands this and at the same time here in a new education. i mean, there could be this part, when in the new, i mean in the new millennium, when they give children the opportunity in basic education to start

experimenting. here it is definitely necessary to improvise - this is not some kind of something, it comes out of the hands, yes. this is how we talk. we are you set a topic. we start talking to her, if we have enough to say so, well, i don’t know the knowledge there, according to the vocabulary. you know, sometimes i want to say, but i don’t have the strength. and how was it for you? as a child, everything is fine too. well, well, as a child . no, well, as a child, my dad forced my child to play jazz under duress. so i have such a question, in general, it is necessary to force a child not from under pressure, but to create an opportunity for him to study. if there is any there was a story. tell me, i had a different story with me. i had to work out from under the stick with classics, and not jazz, because i spent more time on jazz -jazz than on classics at the beginning at the beginning of my period, and then i already realized, somewhere from the age of 18, that i when i started to prepare for the competition in novosibirsk, i think i

thought that i definitely need the classics, because not a single jazz musician can do without a classical education. that is, such an adult understanding has come, in general, i have already begun to relate to this in an adult way, and everything, and. why is this the biggest why me i used to spend more time on jazz and 2 hours of studying, only classical and only 2 hours of classical, please. who was doing jazz? i was constantly doing only jazz all day long. and now it's like yes, and now it's completely both. you said dad you said no, but no. i became. i just listened to jazz. i really wanted to play the drums, and so my dad played the drums at home , there were some, but he played there at weddings there, well, in the afternoon as an engineer he played at weddings in the evening. and drum was at home. i always played, when i was from five to 6 years old. i already played there with emil dmitrov there was some kind of other kind of records leningrad was there i played drums with all of them,

then they invited me a girl who wrote to teach not the piano but she taught me the piano, we were half a year there we moved. a cheerful village in leningrad, a new area for such a bedroom, and she refused to come here, and he refused thank god, and then later my father spoke for a while, jazz beni goodman charlie parker gennady goldstein josi weinstein. these are the musicians who then thundered over the whole of leningrad. therefore, these are the teacher above me, who i later got gennady says, all the time it was the legend of soviet glory. god still lives legends of soviet jazz, an outstanding musician, arranger , composer at that moment, who played oleg galustyan and the waterman and vadim lyudkovskaya orchestra. einstein in general, it is necessary to infect. yes, it is necessary to infect, to infect , it will turn out good music, it is necessary to infect jazzmen, but to be a brilliant musician, good

musician. maybe just a musician , any musician is a genius, in his own way 100 years of russian jazz, but october was celebrated. now let's celebrate a little more. uh, 2023. so this is a good thing, but the next 100 years are ahead of what is missing in russian jazz. uh, what to pay attention to for the first 10 years, at least for years with the support that we receive and all the creative industries in our country receive. at the moment, we are working quite closely in the field of education. and it's not just us it's if passes the camps in samara plus e passes, of course, tavria yes , that's it, it's coming. there is a huge support, so we just need to work, and now we all believe that people can see successful jazz musicians on television, oleg neat. sergey is there, smut, peter vostokov.

kondakov the guys in st. petersburg are there to crush our golovoks and other young people appear here, in principle, we now have everything we have a port there is support at the local level yes guber and the ministry of culture has appeared an incentive now it is clear that even the youth they have a choice. where to go classical pianists go or go. i don't know about going to moscow state university to become an engineer. where are you, you can earn money. you can be a professional jazz musician. now i can not help but ask the jazz musician, this is a wealthy person. well, of course, we are solid middle class solid middle class so, i don't know, for example, i consider myself a wealthy person. i don’t know how it is said in general from the point of view of finances, we are now talking about the fact that young people are now very much needed, how to yes, that is, they are very sensitive. if you are in demand, then you are in demand. well, last year we officially had 170

concerts at my place. almost the same with lera, the musicians of my orchestra and my committee of ours almost the same. well, we didn't play for free. therefore, we have financial stability. i'll tell you what the musicians. some make very good money. and this is not the limit. there are jazz musicians, ours. well, we also focus on the greatest musicians for us, the same wynton marsales is, so to speak, both a musical and human idol, as a public figure, he was one of the 25 most influential people in america according to well, according to ta magazine, well , he’s already doing music very well, if we stayed, he himself can be an influential person in america, one of most why a jazz musician in russia can not be influenced. and what if you outline your mission as a jazz musician for the next century?

i just love. i can't be you have a mission. i don't think, i don't sit, i don't think. so you know, yes, the mission is to make people happier, so they would like to know, i say that if there are some things happening in the world, it means that we have not finalized somewhere or not. something was not finished, something was left behind. i remember being alone. the wonderful jazz singer and pianist shirley horn sang in america , she performed at the festival there, and then i sat for the service. she went out. we were already such an elderly woman who came out playing with gloves, and she sang and the whole first row. we all took hands, just not well, there are people. we as if someone knew there on the right, on the left they sat by the hands, and now they listened. here, this is

some kind of divine musical revelation. well, nothing was bright. she just sang and this timbre of the voice is all together. and it was wonderful and we want to do it so that people leave, satisfied with a sullen smile , exchanging impressions. dear friends, dear friends, on this optimistic note, unfortunately, unfortunately, we are forced to complete our version. today they were with us. igor butman people's artist jazzman oleg akuratov a star of modern russian jazz without a doubt. i'm sure the best thing you can do now after this broadcast is turn on the recordings. oleg is true, listen to him and igor butman's orchestra. this is wonderful pockets elena kiper, we say goodbye to new and night airs. we wish you happiness, everything in this big world is now for you. hey like the sun. that's jazz for you.

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