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such, i would say, are professional criteria for the usefulness of the very profession of a diplomat from this point of view a visit. e, blinkin to beijing is definitely a positive phenomenon. the sides met sideways and talked and how. in such cases, sometimes the participants speak out, if nothing could be achieved, that the meeting allowed the parties to better understand each other's positions. here it is not necessary to better understand the positions, they are already very clear to the chinese partners. it is clear what washington wants and what it seeks specifically in this region and specifically in the visa application china well, in general, uh, the administration's goals regarding china are also already formulated in this regard, some secrets and sensationalism. no, and therefore, uh, you know, uh, english-speaking analysts, commentators love all sorts of formula brooches, catchy headlines, while reading
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various reviews, i remember this phrase. hello here it is possible, probably, to translate the first step up the steep slope of the hill. the step was taken and it's already good, but the slope is steep and the slope is quite high. uh, in the comment, blinkina. uh, was spoken a phrase that in general, uh, is often said by american u, participants in this kind of contacts, that the most important thing is that communication channels are kept open, which allow uh, to stop the escalation of incidents into armed conflict. well,
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you can't argue with that, but the question arises. but is it necessary to bring things to the point where incidents arise that threaten to develop into a conflict, and so, if they did arise, they only changed the american side and the chinese partners, they are absolutely right. uh, talk about it openly uh, american guests, so there was a meeting with sidepin. uh, this is natural for the leaders of the ministry of foreign affairs, the leading countries of the world, including our minister, when he is in beijing in his capacity as a minister. uh, the head of state accepts. if only he hadn't accepted it. this would be an element of such a sensation, you know, a kind of democlo with a diplomatic gesture, but accepted yes, accepted with protocol goals, and in general said what was expected. well for pancakes on it. yes. uh, some glasses. so to speak
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the american side got it as a result , because everyone in america is talking about the upcoming elections next year about the need. somehow prop it up. uh, let's just say, uh, the position of the incumbent president, who is running for re-election, is not very strong, including in terms of foreign policy. well, to what extent the visit, uh, will allow, uh, to solve this problem, time will tell. thank you very much and uh, you are an outstanding diplomat. and not only, uh, at the level of your previous words, but really from my point of view of your understanding of russian interests and the art of negotiation. i am not a diplomat, so i will ask you a question that is not diplomatic. and why is it good for russia if the united states and china begin to establish a dialogue, which the united states
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will most likely seek to make a dialogue against the interests of russia, well, because nothing will work out for them, but the establishment of dialogues. in this case, it will mean, well , some kind of relaxation of tension. in in general, in such a rather explosive zone. e. asia-pacific e, coasts and the situation around taiwan because the situation there is complicated and further aggravated. in general, no one needs anyone. as for hmm linking. uh, let's just say that the tensions around taiwan are easing with some uh moves by beijing uh under pressure, what is called such a cheeky onslaught of washington i think it's a relief what uh, damn it, said about his conversations, in particular about the possibility of supplies
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russian chinese weapons. let's listen. as for the supply of lethal weapons from china to russia for its subsequent use in ukraine, we, as well as other countries, received an assurance from china that it does not and will not supply lethal weapons to russia, we appreciate. this and we have not found any evidence to the contrary, however. we have concerns that some chinese companies may provide technology that russia can use to continue its aggressive ukraine, we asked the chinese government to pay special attention to this. general reshetnikov you occupied major posts, uh, in the foreign intelligence service headed the analytical department, help us analyze. and what blinkin said. well, firstly, this is, of course, their well-known position in the united states. you can supply weapons to taiwan. but uh,
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china is not allowed to insert russia's weapons well , well, well, i'm interested. this formula. we haven't received any evidence, we haven't seen evidence that china is doing this, but we're, uh, kind of worried about what some chinese, i understand, not very big companies will do. this means that on will there be more pressure from china to stop china from doing things in the area of ​​dual-use technology? what does it mean, look , he said this phrase about weapons not the way you said, you said china will not supply weapons to russia. he said china will not supply lethal weapons. this is already a stipulation. here andrey ivanovich said diplomacy very well, and in negotiations and every phrase means something, er, it means the americans. uh, they understand that they are supplying something, that cooperation between russia and china is developing, in
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including the development of the military-technical plane and they cannot stop this and this development, therefore , a neat diplomatic reservation is already being made , lethal weapons, and you are right, in the second in the second case, that nissan china, that is, another reservation is being made . in general, i also think, like, uh, our leading sinologist in our country, andrei ivanovich denisov, said that nothing, in principle, cardinal has happened and is unlikely to happen is unlikely to happen, principled positions remain they are practically motionless in this situation and both from the side of china so from the side of the usa , the americans now need some kind of visible success, they, uh, virtual success. they demonstrate this, negative. the prc took 35
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minutes. there was a meeting of them, it took 10 minutes to greet the parting photos and water phrases for 20 minutes. as again, it has already been said today it took some specific. yes, not quite specific statements about their positions. i think uh this is hmm something that happened to us especially given the level of our cooperation. with china , we should not particularly worry, we can assume that uh china uh, and the united states is really trying to defuse the situation so that the incident does not turn into an armed clash until no one needs it. here, but i think no fundamental events occurred as a result of this visit. here you are ambassador generals.
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i feel, as it were, my difference in political cultures with you, because the breakthrough of the united states for so many years, i 'm used to the traditional worry, when my , uh, closest partner begins to negotiate with my uh, main opponent dmitry , i lose something in my logic, and dmitry the fact of the matter is that there is no agreement in principle. e, following the results of blinka’s visit to the united states, i completely agree if they are there as petrovich and andrei ivanovich. and here, and andrei ivanovich gave a metaphor, he quoted a metaphor about carapkan e on a slope, but i agree with this metaphor only that further. the united states and china will remain difficult as well, but i don't agree with this metaphor and because it gives the impression of some kind of change that there is an upward movement in us-china relations and hints are being made that they are improving, this
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is not the case. i completely agree that neither the united states nor china fundamentally change their policy, their attitude, as they were in the nature of a systemic confrontation. so it will continue to bear the character of a systemic confrontation. the only hand. we agreed to try to control this confrontation , to manage it, to give it a stable character, in order to avoid something undesirable not for the united states, especially for the united states, but also for china is not a controllable escalation of this confrontation and it is clear why? and by the way, the united states was more interested in such a development of events than china . recently, the former anglo secretary of the united states, wes mitchell, and under trump was deputy secretary of state , wrote an article in a foreign policy. uh, in europe yeah but he wrote there that uh, and one of the sections of this article is that the united states can continue to support ukraine until china
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attacks taiwan because, if suddenly an open military conflict breaks out in asia here the window of opportunity that exists for the united states of part of ukraine will close and, in principle, the united states will find itself in a situation of zugzwank and the blinky administration, the biden and blinkin administration was very afraid of such developments, events. it was important for her to prevent the situation from developing in an uncontrolled way. and apparently. she agreed on this, but at the same time, it is not china that will not change its policy both in the global sense and in relation to russia and in relation to it. ukrainian conflict is not the united states will certainly not give up on confrontation with china and support for taiwan, but both sides will try to manage this confrontation. of course, i agree with you and everyone, especially since my expertise in china, let's say. so delicately i don't want
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to insult myself extremely limit, but er. i also understand what to say here, in principle, that the prospects for the sino-american agreement are very limited to say from my point of view, but if it’s not obvious, well , something very logical, but i don’t know what the hell the details are, and here given how china's behavior in the diplomatic sphere is also important for russia. and frankly, in matters, but weapons are special, some dual-use items know this, i would say so far there is no reason to worry. so far, it's probably good what they're saying, because russia doesn't need serious military incidents. between the two great nuclear
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just in case, i would say, but let's watch this carefully. let's watch. and yet, what is actually going on there? we will return to this issue for now, let's move to the front. and we'll talk to channel one war correspondent dmitry kulko dmitry thank you very much, we understand how busy you are and we also understand that the situation is very difficult for you there and we are very grateful that you found the time? tell us how you assess the overall situation on your part of the front. hello, good evening. well, here i am, in particular, i can say about the flanks of artyomovsk in this tactical sector. we are actively working, communicating with the fighters of the units who are holding a blow there, so for those 2 weeks that the enemy launched an attack. on this area. today, for the first time, there was no silence
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. artillery worked artillery, but there were no attempts. here is the ground assault on our positions, starting. since this month, since june, every time the enemy has made attempts, they went out in small groups of all this there with the forces of two platoons. i mean, it's, well, 30 to 60 people tried in seep groups. that is, it was a completely different tactic that we saw in zaporozhye, uh, these are small columns, and we saw what happens to him later, because the reconnaissance notices them quite quickly and burns these brains and ah-ah leopards. but here, uh, these were trained militants of the third brigade, mainly those created on the basis of azov are so experienced. stormtroopers, but nevertheless , our guys did not manage to do anything in this direction on time, they were identified and identified in forest plantations. well, then the correction was killed by tanks with those places where the enemy was launched - these are such lowlands. yes , the fighting goes primarily for the heights of the enemy did not manage to take a single height
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this important section on the e, southern flank, artemovsk. these were only e lowlands, where the enemy carried colossal ones. uh, the losses, in fact, continue to bear them. and it is probably precisely with this that such a lull in this section is also an important site. ah, criminal. right now, he somehow fell out of the information agenda. well, in this silence our guys. this is primarily part of the central military district of our paratroopers. e, conducts an active defense and so quietly bites off the territory that the enemy now occupies. and a long time ago actually figured out this tactic of militants. they have such single trenches , a network of such trenches, and then during the sa during the attack, our guys are trying to draw up reserves. and for this time , 30-40 minutes, our guys. uh, if there is such an opportunity, takes a position. e. well, actually, these are the sectors today where we work. all you know about the threshold is about, uh,
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we think they are, and ukraine's attempts to break through to melitol there, because this is such a serious thing that something unusual is happening. ah, well, zaporozhye is probably kilometers 800 from us, of course, we do not know all the details, but nevertheless we know a lot of messages from those guys who serve there. a-a reports every day there, so that the enemy is trying to break through and with large forces. this is the enemy using strategic reserves , the supreme commander spoke about this at the meeting of the svenkorm, which we also attended and, uh, continues to lose equipment. uh, continues to suffer heavy losses understandable to him. it's tempting . it's tempting to go to the azov and try to cut off for us the land corridor to the crimea well, as we can see, even here is the first line of this defense in depth and in depth. eh, the enemy really take and uh, fails. e. well, let's look further, i must say, it's not only in zaporozhye that such a powerful defense
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is built. we also have such lines here, if the enemy is trying to so well, actually act and get at least some media success near artyomovsk, but because offensive operations have been going on there until recently. and maybe not everywhere. that they managed to make huge ditches, but nevertheless, even here at so far nothing has worked for him. dmitry i understand that, well, you are at some distance from this zaporizhia section, but which one was rightly said, you are following carefully, you have looked, you are looking at the message of other correspondents. i understood you correctly that so far there have not been any significant breakthroughs in the first line of russian defense. yes, according to all reports , the territory that today is under the control of the militants is the entire territory, and in the lowlands, active defense suggests that it is possible to launch the enemy at e, disadvantageous positions, and themselves approach more advantageous positions. and as soon as they are,
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the key heights are then occupied by the enemy. it can say something to its success, as long as the battles are going on and in which there were no such messages. at least i didn't see it for sure. that is, when the new york times writes oh, you are the ukrainian offensive, that they have some separate advances, but they are all not inside the first line of defense, and did not reach. in this sense, you do not have information you, how can you rely on her like that. uh, well, including, if it is of course, if at least sometimes they can say there , after all, some truthful things, then, of course, they can be relied upon if they correlate with what we know here from the fighters . but in any case, the enemy, of course, is now trying to somehow survive, at least some kind of media success there. here, even under artyomovsk. ah, in addition to the fighters
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, a lot of some kind of ukrainian military bloggers and correspondents were obviously taken, who every day try to talk about some kind of great win there for the small 30, m there, which is issued there to take in some areas, but it is clear that this does not play a significant role in defense. may be flexible dimitri and last question. you participated in the third president. putin with war correspondents. we've seen a lot. what happened at this meeting. so we know some things, but i would like to ask. here is your main impression of this meeting, so that they know that there was a request for the leadership of the country to indicate, uh, where they will be go, this is a special military operation. and this meeting showed that the supreme
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commander-in-chief has plans, first of all, this plan is connected with the development of our military department in the first place. this, of course, is a rearmament. today, the military-industrial complex has been launched , our defense enterprise is working in several shifts. and we have cutting- edge weapons that have proven themselves today in real combat. this is the same tendenstein breakthrough tank that vladimir putin called today the best in the world, there are others. we have very important ones. you can say small, well, even inconspicuous gadgets are those that win. here in this race between uh, drones and means of suppression. if we also have them, we need to accumulate them and scale them up to work. now this is coming. here, too, they talked a lot about this in the closed part, including today it is no longer a secret that it was also underway. today, the reform of the officer school , vladimir putin also spoke about this. during peacetime. and
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today they are being pushed out by such enterprising officers who show themselves in real battles, uh, who take a non-standard approach to military operations, but modern military operations. they just mean that some tactics of military science are sometimes written on the go right on the battlefield. and these guys, who are fast and talented, they should go upstairs. and that's because, of course, support them. well , uh, how, in fact, how the hostilities themselves will proceed, of course, vladimir putin, i answered. although e. actually. i asked. eh, this question. will we go on the counteroffensive ourselves? uh, said he could only say it face to face, said, no, i can't tell, but anyway. ah, openly stated that everything will depend on what potentials will develop after e ends. here is the so-called ukrainian ukrainian counter-offensive, and the enemy suffers huge losses and it is not so easy for the west to make up for them today, uh, and even with regard to shells. yes , the supreme commander-in-chief also spoke about this, that e is not enough. uh uh today
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power. uh, the enemy spends practically as much per day as the united states produces per month, uh, 150-mm caliber shells. of course, there are other production facilities, of course, some countries further on, so that they open new defense enterprises. well, in general, in any case, of course, over time. we can only understand how the special military operation will develop further. dmitry huge to you. thanks good luck. take care of yourself. thank you, uh, general. i saw you, i think 10 days two weeks ago. e one of the other channels, where did you e express? in in general, the significant optimism about how the russian armed forces are coping with the ukrainian contour offensive is optimism, you have retained optimism. yes, because, uh, 10 days ago, i was in the liberated territory in the city of skadovsk
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, which is 40 kilometers from the line of contact. as it says, we erected a monument to pushkin there at the initiative of this small liberated city, since everywhere, uh, in ukraine it is thrown down, and they decided to put it up and i talked with those people who are fighting, there weren’t many of them, but they were in a different mood. than it was before, than before. they are in a mood in the sense that they feel some solidity now in the actions of our army in the actions of our armed forces, solidity and ie in the supply of equipment and in the supply of e, ammunition and the attitude of e to the e themselves, soldiers, officers and really. here is what our war correspondent, uh, said , uh, the appearance in uh, leading
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positions, uh, of officers who have shown themselves over the past year and a half. and it gives some a certain optimism and from the meeting with the military commanders that we heard saw. e, it also feels that there is a real plan, this plan is being carried out so far, without jerking, without fuss, and uh, this also gives a certain optimism, but uh, a certain optimist, because we must not forget that uh, everything was being prepared very much, reserves were being prepared. there are still not too few technical reserves, despite heavy losses, there are still. and, of course, the situation remains serious, but there is one thing, but we are our guys . our troops are standing. really shows methods of active flexible defense
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leave something at the same time take something to leave, then inflict damage again return. that is, we are already seeing, in contrast to previous months, the work of both the general staff and the army command. and this again gives grounds for some kind of normal optimism. well, i also had a relatively recent opportunity to see what is happening, and on the battlefields and uh, i must say that i left in a very good mood, because i did not expect this, and uh, i must immediately say dimitri knows this, what happened, special operation. all the time i warned against throwing a hat, because when mahi climbs against you, 31
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countries. well, let's just say to understand that this is a big challenge. well, then, when you look for ukraine, i dmitry knows, there is only one precedent for this kind of situation, a situation where russia grinds ukrainian weapons does it heroically and sometimes. unfortunately significant losses. what is nato doing and starting to replace all this? no, of course not. it's not that fast as zelensky would like, and not always. this is exactly what zelensky would like, but i will tell you that this is such a compensation for losses in a country that is not even a member of nato . i know only one case. israel is 73 and
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it was a very impressive air bridge, and it certainly had a serious one. if you want a resonance in terms of the possibility of israel dmitry, what do you think about this, if there are other precedents and how significant it is from your point of view, but dmitry really there are no other precedents, and i would say that the scale of, uh, the american content of life to ensure the kiev regime today is greater than the assistance that the united states provided to israel during the war, capacious pura or the yom kippur war of the seventy-third year assistance not to the allies, and in the history of the united states there is no, because yes, there were cases when they provided assistance to the union for example, during the second world war, but these
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were the relations of the allies. and that support which they provide to ukraine, and partially try to compensate for the losses in technology that the kiev regime. losing now just proves how high the stakes are for the west. indeed, the west has made a very large investment in ukraine , and the military and economic and reputational west has put at stake the prospects for its position in the world order and this international order itself , and the inability of ukraine to achieve this or that victory will turn out to be a catastrophe for the west as a result of that situation , in which the west has driven itself. after all, this is the west , but it has transformed a special military operation into a general world conflict, on which it really depends. uh fate, uh, the rest of the world and, of course. i e also fully agree, standing by the tax
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that you brought is not accidental. uh, discussing the prospects for a-a policy towards ukraine even after the end of the military conflict in one form or another. the west most often discusses the so-called israeli model. uh, that is, the transformation of ukraine into not ally, and the united states legal strike military strike military force in the region. naturally, against e, against russia , this implies the militarization of ukraine much more than is being carried out. now this involves the supply of fighters and long-range missiles to ukraine, and a lot. what else does this imply very intensive military-technical cooperation. well, of course, all this suggests that for russia such an outcome is categorically unacceptable. dmitry agrees with you and is unacceptable, and i think, based on the fact that
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the president spoke, in particular at the st. petersburg forum near the russian military industry. there is an opportunity to deal with this, of course, but naturally with great efforts, great efforts and a heavy price . china can china support russia from your point of view, at least at the level that we have seen so far or will be able to, beijing still squeeze in the west so that everything that can have a double use, so that russia would be denied all this. uh, you know, uh, the main thing in china's position regarding the situation in ukraine and russia in this respect? it's not even support. this understanding is an understanding of our motives, an understanding of goals and objectives, an understanding that russia has another opportunity
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to act in defense of its interests. she just wasn't left with any other options. here in china, e, shows absolute realism and sobriety. i would say thinking should be based on this. i don't see, uh, any possibility of changing china's position under pressure from the united states in precisely this regard. moreover, the position of the americans. she habitually arrogant, which no one likes, including china well, look what blinkin says. he says, literally next, that if you supply lethal weapons, there will be very serious consequences. and if china tells the americans, if you continue to supply weapons to ukraine, then there will be very difficult consequences for you, it’s even hard for us to imagine. although it would be perfectly correct and uh, it would be uh
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balance, therefore. uh, of course, the pressure exerted by the americans is the strongest and uh, at the st. petersburg forum, our e, the president spoke about this just during the speech that you simulated. he really did not mean china, but, let's say, a wider range of countries, but the situation in this respect is no different. and i think that this is part of blinkin's visit, if the american side left such a task, it will obviously not be fulfilled. thank you so much , we'll be back in just a few minutes. to the former expert of the battle of psychics and many other ukrainian television talk shows this is a ritual murder, and you and i cannot ignore the fact that these are our people . anna painter from a television expert. she changed into a gauleiter suit of a khaki
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on the air of the big game, putin said an important speech at the economic forum in st. petersburg and we will now discuss some important parts. but first, i want to give my personal observation, since i was a moderator, the first time they asked me to be a moderator, they began with the fact that no one requires me to coordinate issues with them, this did not happen at all. i was told
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that no one expects me to give a list of questions. there was no such thing. i said that you know that our conversation with the president would be more constructive. i at least want to give you the main themes. well i said that i will formulate the topics in such a way that they will not be questions. it will be a general direction, because i wanted to have an element of spontaneity impromptu reaction was that they looked at these topics and said, yes, please, that's up to you. this is what impressed me, uh, and i don't like historical parallels. they are all relative, but i thought about richard nixon and the reason i thought about richard nixon is because he was a man who was unlike putin and very insecure
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in terms of his own, i don’t know how say dmitry and human e contact qualities. er, it was absolutely confident in its intellectual potential and was absolutely not afraid of any intellectual challenge. in any format. this is the kind of president, from my point of view, that russia now has a person who is confident in himself in a good way and therefore gives him pleasure when he is challenged. he does not expect people who will say bravo, mr. president, comrade president, and in short, we get bored from this. this of course calls me to him, a lot of interest and a lot of respect. now let's see what he said from
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my point of view on one of the main issues. i asked the president at the very end. they would like him to say something. the president, taking advantage of these opportunities , let's listen to what putin said. an adult and experienced in politics is not for me to teach him. let him do as he sees fit. and we will do what we believe is in the interests of the russian federation and the people of russia and take this into account. vladimir vladimirovich you do not want to give advice president biden, but you probably said the most important thing, and everyone will have to reckon with this. but i, of course, said something to repeat the president’s thought, and to give him
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the opportunity, if this is not completely what he wanted to say, that if this is not the main thing, if you want the message that the biden actually makes. i wanted him to have the opportunity to say what he considered necessary , he did not, and it seems to me that this was the main point of president putin's speech at the st. petersburg forum russia is open to diplomacy, and russia is not looking for confrontation. and russia, at least, does not yet see a situation that could lead to the use of even tactical nuclear weapons, but there has always been some kind of, if you want to clarify, what this is in practice, what this restraint in practice means that putin
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on the use of tactical nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons are created in order to ensure our security in the broadest sense of the word and the existence of the russian state in the first place, we do not have such a need, but secondly, uh, the very fact of reasoning on this topic already lowers the possibility of lowering the threshold for the use of weapons. eh, here. this is the first part, the second is that we have more such weapons than strange ones. they know about it and all the time they are trying to persuade us to start negotiations on reduction by horseradish , you know, as we have she kind of says. so, because it's e, it's in this case, to put it, e in cloth language. e of these economic terms. this is our competitive advantage, but it seems to me, again
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you can’t say it more clearly, he didn’t want to brandish a nuclear hole, he didn’t want to intimidate anyone, but he clearly wanted to remind that these tactical nuclear weapons exist, that this part of the russian arsenal and no one should think that russia does not remember and does not will take this attention, determining their capabilities general. well, i agree with you with your conclusion. yeah, uh, hmm, we shouldn't be talking about nuclear weapons all the time about the possibility of a strike. uh, it's just meaningless talk for now, but remember. what has the president done to the west? yes, this is what is needed we need to remember who they are trying to fight with, with whom they have contacted and with, and what advantages we have, in general, i must say. i want to support you that we have a president. uh, from the very beginning, one who is not afraid
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of any questions. he's ready to talk, uh, to answer any thorny question. we were convinced of this when i served in intelligence. and now we all see it. and, probably, colleagues also notice this. therefore, here is what was said at the forum, especially this part of the questions and answers. well of course, uh raised her tone. eh, our eh, citizens, all of us , and the forum somehow turned out to be successful, despite some, er, criticisms in social networks , the forum was successful in the situation. when, as you said correctly, 31 countries are trying to fight us, the situation is when we are under huge sanctions, yes. at the same time, a huge number of people of specialists are coming. eh, economists, businessmen and the forum are on a good optimistic
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wave and results. they have it, of course, a huge success and the president and presidential administration. and the host, by the way, is big. uh, success because it all worked out, so uh. this is a very important moment, and president e, he also outlined the confidence that he has, and he has confidence not only in our victory, but also in the further promotion of our idea of ​​a multipolar world. e. uh, getting rid of the hegemon, e as the dictator of all international politics, this is confidence in him , and he does not doubt it one iota. uh, in this line that he draws consistently. we are not all his decisions. can even understand and know, because they are not all open to us, just as not all the information is in front of him, but here is the confidence that he once again demonstrated at the forum.
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it says that we not only have a military action plan, but we also have a general plan for our foreign policy for decades to come. i had that feeling too. and uh, there are certainly a lot of obstacles here and one of the obstacles. i want to ask each of you about this. it's an obstacle, uh, talking to someone on the other side. and now let's listen what putin said about the degradation of the western years. most recently, the former prime minister passed away. eh, italy, mr. berlusconi, he did a lot to build normal long-term relations between russia and the nato countries. he was a very bright person and a very active, energetic me, without any exaggeration. i consider him
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to be such a personality, on a global scale , some of today's leaders do not even have a higher education, but such is the specifics, yes, of the political system. uh, in some countries, what u throws up. e people with such, let's say, weak preparation, er, general educational and cultural level. here, uh, i when well, now it is also wide. no, he was such a big politician. i once asked him why the american leadership behaves this way. well, so aggressive and so not far-sighted in some cases. he answered me in russian in russian, because direct speech is not cultural. and this is connected
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precisely with the level of general education and understanding of the development of objective processes or misunderstanding of these administrative processes. i want to ask you senator and you professor, what do you think about this is a non-trivial whole question. and, if we want to seek agreements, and on the other hand, if we want russia's warnings to be taken seriously. and it's important to know who's listening, what do you think about it. eh, what, i think about it. eh, really, really really says, uh, there is no one in the west now, but not only for the reason that the president indicated, answering questions and explanations.
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uh, relatively speaking, in a crushed way and in what, let’s say, not cultural, as uh said, but in the fact that there was such a self-sufficient and overwhelming everything, i take this word in please understand correctly, but i call it bolshevism when that's just our opinion is correct, and the slightest digression towards common sense. it is simply severely punished, and we have seen it. this is why this is not the season for talking to western leaders and their political elites, but let's not forget that this speech by our president his statements. addressed by no means. not only this. there are three to four dozen countries, moreover, the audience there doesn’t hear them anyway, after all, this is not brought to them, but there is globality. the global majority or world majority, which perceives these words correctly and we have the right to expect
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the opposite. i would say pressure from this world majority, again, on this rather narrow group of countries. and here it is. in my opinion. maybe sooner or later somehow. have action thanks dmitry besides the fact that you know america europe you have a lot of experience such informal dialogues, which took place in the past, and it seems that the dialogues did not lead us anywhere, what do you think about the possibility of a constructive conversation with western elites, i completely agree with andrei ivanovich that there is no such possibility today, but, nevertheless. uh, saving contacts and saving dialogues is necessary. and i can say that i even now participate in the russian american dialogues of the second track. they certainly do not concern the possibility of improving relations. they are about being able to better
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understand each other and prevent the worst-case scenario. actually a direct military clash and a nuclear war. i fully agree with the president, and the degradation of the elites in the west. this is a fundamental problem. this is the fundamental reason for the current global confrontation and proxy war. and this is the fundamental reason for the military crisis that we are seeing now in ukraine and in which we are directly involved, and to a greater extent than in united states - this is a european problem. elites who demonstrate absolutely unprecedented strategic parasitism, but the united states, too , because of its arrogance, because of its ideological narrow-mindedness, but are pursuing, let's say , a policy that ultimately undermines their own positions, will put the whole world on the brink of a global catastrophe, but with all this, for the biden administration,
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at least part of the biden administration and a significant part of the american expert community, inherent instinct of self-preservation. there were people who more or less soberly assess what is happening, not by chance. the committee of the joint chiefs of staff recently stated twice that there are only three superpowers in the world, their number being these superpowers. he attributed this to russia, despite all the propaganda talk in the west that russia allegedly had already suffered a strategic defeat, weakened to e, it is not clear what limits, according to the mile, russia remains one of the three superpowers and the united states must constantly think about how to prevent escalation. here, in fact , the prevention of escalation in the study of direct military clashes, a and nuclear war - this is still something, and what should we talk about with the americans? and that's what this conversation is about. i
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would say continues. let's hope, of course, justice, for the sake of the general. he is retiring soon and will be replaced by another general. uh, the african american is now the minister of obo. and the chairman of the committee of chiefs of the tobs will be african americans, but this is somehow i am absolutely not worried that this general, when there were racial and other radical unrest in america, and for some reason he considered it necessary, being a general and part of the army, how to show his sympathies to the protesters and extreme wariness towards the administration, trump go to advertising. eugene, we cooked dinner, we were hungry for dinner. this, of course , is good, but let's prepare a module for
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