my mom won't like how i look now. that's how it is now. yes, she will say that you are too much. you are too much from the cover. i recently sent her some pics. she says i don't like the way you make lips in the photo. and i think i taught photo posing there, my mother says that she doesn’t like it. maybe, yes, maybe i don't have enough approval from my parents. no lyudmila, look about the approval of the parents. you know everything very well here. uh, as if the problem, you have to look for what is already inside you yourself such a parent, and which just turns on this fatigue turns on this resistance. you evaluate yourself in terms of the fact that you, in principle, are doing something, what is shameful, well, or uh, unacceptable to your family, the word is unacceptable on the one hand. it is not very difficult and not very scary, but on the other hand. they won’t accept me directly, if i want to be like that even then, that i want to immediately earn 300 million right. that life that you like, but

this parent is already inside and it turns out that you little girl dreamed about it. and now the parent who criticizes this, for example, if you look at it from the point of view of transactional analysis. you seem to have jumped the position of an adult, but the child forms a dream, and adults realize it, and the parent controls and, moreover , in, let's say, so in a neurotic decomposition. parents control that this does not happen parents at all, in principle, this is a controlling form and figure, which should do everything so that the child does not do what he wants, what he only wants. naturally, the child does not have any need, and the child fantasizes; the child gushes with these fantasies and, accordingly, as a result, begins to realize them. and parents. you know for sure that this will lead to trouble, and therefore it is the parents who make you sabotage, of course, you do it right away. why do you know? now here, but in a new one. so i’m entering

the training and i’m still sitting like this, already here the start should be one of these days, i think, or maybe not go. but with products. well, i don't know how to suggest master-minds, you will conduct them. in the future, i want to, yes, conduct them. but first i go to study. first, i want to go to a person who has already collected several times, he succeeded and , uh, from the pluses, what i see, yes, that there will be people, well, a certain atmosphere, where everyone will support somehow, how will this happen? that is, you will collect, zoom plus live meetings plus miscellaneous. well, the tasks you have built for yourself are building some kind of goal. carry out this goal like a case, and all together are discussing. let's say i want to earn a million there. and they light up for you. listen , you're doing great. here's what you'll do great. think about it, i thought , it’s true, you can do something together from this, that is, there is support, that is, this is a supporting environment and every here in.

a businessman that i understand, yes, i was doing this when it was not yet called the info business, when even the word mastermining was not yet known, so no, i understand all this perfectly, and i understand that this is a profession and you want this profession now. well, at first you want to use it in order to grow in something, and then , accordingly, perhaps the most to spend like this, and at this moment it seems to you, what if it ’s not that, why, i’m afraid that i will jump off again at some point, that is, yes, indeed, this internal block will arise again. how right did you say? it's for the parents, yes, who will say listen girl. here, hadi, you go to your work , everything is fine there, everything is comfortable. worked at home, just parental position hear, well, in real life, mom says, definitely calm. you, i say, mom , you understand, i say, if i have the potential that i say, i feel that he needs to unpack the words. i can't calm down. i'm real. i tried to calm down. i can. yes, i have tried it. i can’t do anything in particular, not a speech, an idea, i can’t. because the child inside you continues to do this and thank god, when you talk about it, your eyes light up, but at

the moment when this figure of a parent arises, which condemns, look at your parents. you say it's terrible. it's not terrible that otherwise you parents did not raise you. you simply would not have lived to this age, but parents have a saving function, a parent has a saving function, but an adult starts , as if, if the child first explores, it's simple, because the child has such a mission, then adults already this person who is inside me a role inside me that says, if you want it we can do it you just understand, there are risks, responsibility and the child begins to act, it will become dependent on the information product, the parent will not allow him to realize his dreams, uh, adults are the one who can calmly observe what is happening and, so to speak, assessing the risks, can move in this direction. here in the position of an adult there will be no burnout, because there will be an adult. well, of course, edison . this is an adult who made 10,000 experiments in order to invent an

incandescent lamp and, as it were, everyone around him turned away. and when he was told that 10,000 failures we experienced as a failure, these are 10,000 ways how it does not work. yes? he was crazy. yes, but he made a light bulb incandescent. here is exactly the same position. there is such a thing as the routine of the police, you can withstand this routine and not burn out. i have no idea now how to deal with this internal parent with uh. so you say, i understand this with my brain, but what? do i don't understand the first thing to understand is that your family shouldn't accept what you do, and you can handle rejection and that's it. that is, here is an adult who is able to survive the non-recognition of what his family does not accept. i decided to become a psychologist at the age of 35. leaving business and no one accepted it. i said okay and went and decided to say a psychologist and became, but this is the feeling of anxiety

that arises as a result of absolute loneliness, when no one shares your interests. nobody shares your pleasure. no one shares the fact that you are doing the ability to survive this is exactly what tatyana is talking about, which is just to immerse yourself in this routine and just do it. yes. here. what is the conscious activity of an adult, the child will say, come on, these oven pies have gone, and these went to space to fly. and these went somewhere else. you don’t have to do all this, but an adult is the one who will just work out his actions. hours in order to become a professional in some activity, and the parent will condemn all the time will condemn. we must learn to see it simply and understand that from the fact that you talk with your mother, nothing will change, mom is inside. that is, he simply knows that it is to accept, that it is good to have this voice, but there is an adult who is ready. this is to do this and there are these responsible adults. solutions. where we take

responsibility for it. i think sometimes it's even scary to take responsibility. and at the same time, you want to make money on the master-meneh correctly. and it seems to you, well, you probably have some examples of people who earn a lot on this. yes, i have an example where people really earn money with this, plus they live, well, just in pleasure. and this is the norm for them and ideally. i so want. i will do it. well, let's hit it guys. concert

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it's under the kostrigery with you its hosts tatyana krasnovskaya, psychologist, psychotherapist, psychologist psychotherapist sergei for herself and our guest lyudmila who wants to become a dollar billionaire. say harmful paws married. yes, how is your husband? and he supports you, you know, on the one hand. he gave me a selfie lamp. that is, as if you were filming yours there, but there were moments. he

he helped me shoot there, some kind of rails, but in general he doesn’t really understand this one, that is , as he says, i, well , you like it ok but so that i do something there, no, he seems to , although there are moments. in some there, too , somewhere even there, in a voice, he asked for something, that is, he does it, but it's not a pleasure that yes it's good. and what is it, is it necessary to remove it there? come on like this. well , look, no one around you recognizes or accepts this. well, for the most part. yes, there is no such thing that listen well done cool. let's difficulties where you need to dive headlong into the routine and understand that this is work. yes, at this moment you, accordingly, start a to stand on their side against yourself. maybe even in this ah. sometimes it seems to me that i am not quite closed. this security is basic and, for example, in hiring is simpler, because there is a border in the first place, which are built by the employer. here, too , maybe i have not yet learned how to allocate for you the responsibility of the employer is responsible for your safety freelancing. this

absolute taking on absolutely total responsibility. are you ready for this , i'm scared, but i want to. well, so here it should be, to let your want to say it here. yes, it has exceeded other people's needs, because the other people's needs are that you have to go to work. it is necessary there to receive a salary from six, or as from eight board, as they work from nine. yes, i don't know eight there until six is ​​good, i'm confused because i 'm self-employed, and therefore it seems to me, i generally work all the time because and being a freelancer, you depend only on yourself and obviously, if you don't work, you don't eat is called. if you want to eat delicious food, then your task is to work hard. but it's just ah. here is another important point that i like my work. so i really like it when you create some products yourself, when ideas come to you, you share them with people.

yes, even just you told stratelling about some thoughts and i understand that i can influence other people with some kind of ordinary experience in my life with some ideas, and i get this here the question is even more about self-realization. that's it, and i just want to help people. well, how does it fulfill itself due to the fact that i can? well, here you are, for example, yes, you help people, it's cool. and if, uh, let's imagine a hypothetical situation that you are not married? so you are alone and you have a child, no child. you are alone, and you have a child are you ready to go freelancing? you want to help people so much and here the question is solved , you know what it really is, if i understand that i have a fairly high level of c wages, well, earning income, yes, then i am my own assistant, who will also be happy to do her job to sit with my child when i need it, yes, yes,

i’m ready for this here, as it were with regard to the child here rests that i need to be sure that my child is fine, that there is someone to sit with her, because i understand that i, too, cannot be with her 24/7. i can qualitatively spend an hour with her there too, and she will get it. and this, too, see not the way it was your parental family. not so then you understand, yes, that you go beyond the limits of how it was accepted throughout your life, yes? if you are already leaving, then you will have to accept the fact that you may not return there. that is, you are not doing this in order to prove it to them, but you begin to evaluate your results through their eyes. can you bring it to them or not, probably, well, it’s different and, in principle, my mother always told me about it, you are different. well, even you know, i don’t know, there, i often order now, i go for delivery. well, i can't. i don't always like it, and i have

the child is now a little puffy and mom says, well, that's right. what food. you eat there and order. that is, as it were, but now is a different time, i understand that i do a lot differently than they do and i never thought that this was the question. it seemed to me that, well, okay, lord no, of course, in this. because a figure has already formed inside you that shares their values. for me, this is a discovery, in fact, you have come to understand that when you leave home. you get away with just being different. this is also a very big courage. and you need to decide whether you are ready for it or not without support, even if your husband does not support you, even if your family still considers it not significant and whether you are ready to live this period before this big income, and that's not a fact. yeah, are you ready to be in this routine. this is it. the same adult position. that is, it turns out that it is not what you think. well, okay, someone

will support their find. and the fact that here, well, imagine one hundred percent. nobody supports you. yes, there is a goal, and you either you go, or you merge, because you were not supported. no one will support you in this success. you can be supported by some small things, but success is really here, which you want. no one should from this success, yes, what are you, yes, and the question is, are you ready to pay this price or not? i know that you had the first request. you are ready to voice it. well, in the first request i had that i also have it , since i have it at work. that's all katerina is on me, and it was also with me and in the family that i did not always live peacefully with my husband. here, but i i understand that this is again all about this about the same key problems arose, just

the moment when you realized that your husband might not support you in these matters, most likely, right? hmm, you know it happens. and now, it can be anyone, everything goes around, he wants to do a lot now for this, he wants to do what he wants, no one will vacate the station, but it happens that you have to, i probably have a feeling, like in my family with some kind of parent then in a relationship. well, that there are some limits, what should i be, what i can do what i can't do? and perhaps, yes, this is also about support, not support, because even in the same place, well, in social networks. i needed, for example , to show some photo and ask. listen, do not mind if i put this photo there, well, there , it seems to me that this is also about expectations from loved ones and from family and from a husband. this is the expectation that they should also be some, and they should also be some- then the way you accept to maintain the expectation of the same is always at the site of the injury. as you say, thanks for the quote. yes, expectation is always formed, where there was

an injury. here, perhaps, i had expectations for my parents, when i was growing up, you even know it is corny that i would have some kind of separate room there. yes, i did not have a separate room. my brother had a separate one. i didn't have a private room there man. yes, of course, look. you said a very interesting phrase that you have to ask a question with your husband. do you mind if i post this photo? yes, here's an adult asking a question to another person. you don't mind me posting this photo to hear the answer. against, but put up. well , simply, now you know that he is against, and the child says, you do not mind, then i will not put it up. no. yeah well, just watch, what are you going through at this moment? you go through a struggle, then you fight, then you are still with yourself, in general. you just seem to transfer this parent to him and give him this figure. and you do it from the perspective of a child, an adult, even if i don’t know why he asks if he

asked, then he asked, well now he has this information. and this is very important to really leave here. here with this insight. how can you say that your success price will always be loneliness not loneliness. in the sense that everyone will die, they should not accept, of course, and she herself decided that i am doing, as i am doing, they have the right not to accept you. thanks a lot. thank you. it was failure triggers. we were with you its leading psychologists tatyana krasnovskaya psychologist. psychotherapist sergey for himself and our guests were nice people. no need to have dreams because i really did and do a lot of ballets. ugh, i'm having dreams. sometimes a performance starts and some dancer can't come out, doesn't say

igor well, you know, ballet, come on, i 'm waking up in this hysteria. yes, it happens. hello dear friends. we have almost started our broadcast. uh, on the first channel podcast, paws and the creative industry with you elena hyper, clip maker and producer and roman pockets, ceo of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and media manager. and visiting. we have the brightest sign. uh, the representative of fashion is more than fashion, but an honored artist of russia, in fact. there are a lot of designers sitting in this chair, and all of them are igor chepurin. good night, i'm glad to be your guest. good night. but we have already started talking about dreams. let's continue, because the intrigue. eh, the viewer is terribly interested in how the dream ended, what the designer is dreaming of. yes, there are dreams. i have. uh, the dream that i wake up from is that we are preparing a show for almost all fashion models

ready, but no one is dressed and the music of the show begins, and i see that the fashion model is not yet dressed, i also wake up in horror. so it's all horror. that is, it turns out horror. let's somehow creative industry. actually, let's move on. yes yes. what triggers designers? well, that is still mentally, right? well, first of all, the number of objects that we understand, yes design , uh, well, how would it be called art uh, that is, it is street design, it's like industrial design, if we are talking about the facade of a factory. yes, i'm glad i did at one point. eh, began to enjoy not only not only their direct profession, as fashion designers. at one point i went into furniture design. then i began to do interior design and i am grateful to myself that i was not afraid, then i started making scenery for ballets. for the costume department. then i made

the design of the car to make the design of the iron. i did a lot of things and got there. it's real, my pride. it was last year. i did, uh, the design of the façade, and the factory that makes fiberglass. this is the strongest thread in the world, from which aircraft wings are made. well, a lot of things, this is russian company. i am very proud of the result. it's very beautiful, so i'm turned on by work. i am turned on by this life in the context of my curiosity. how to make it more beautiful or more modern, and this, of course, goes out of fashion for me, but that's all i do. even ballet i always do very modern modern performances, and my costumes are always surprisingly new and for me this is also a new discovery of myself. so, what turns me on is the desire, uh, to give birth to something new and to be endlessly surprised. i have

know that. uh, there is uh observation that we have passionate designers in our country who have a lot of work. that's how igor is in particular, and the design industry. in general, is it a debatable question, does it exist or not? well, here's something that definitely works. i am very happy with what is happening now, because now a lot of effort is being invested in designating design as a very important phenomenon. and people don't always think when they pick up a pen that it was someone who thought, someone suffered, someone decided, or a cup, whatever. all what surrounds us, but this is design and such a deep education of design. we never had a deep design education. now everything is developing very actively. i'm happy about that and for example, uh, what a creative industry. now it is coming to the fore and

there is really a lot of attention. that's exactly the generalization of design as a kind of culture. this is a very big victory of this time, and in this time, uh, it is important to express myself and i am glad that the new generation is now more free in the phenomenon, because yes, i am present everywhere in design. but this is my choice. and when i was studying, there was always a fashion designer, a shoe designer, a textile designer at the institute. well , for example, i do fabric design and shoe design. and that is, i enjoy everything, and so, probably, modern society and modern designers must live. he must express himself, he must express himself in different, different, different manifestations, that is, worry about the presence and absence of an industry. he, in principle, should not have time. well, the point is that we this should be an industry, therefore, i, probably, am in our country the example when just a boy from the city of

velikiye luki was educated as a designer of women's clothing, served in the army. then, uh, i went to college, and then i just started working and worked in a very wide spectrum from ballet to building a factory, and i feel very harmonious in this and i am some kind of foundation. i think it's a nascent industry. well, now someone on the other side of the screen must have sighed and thought sadly, but there was hope on chepurin generally speaking, well, in terms of our russian clothes, and he is facades, which means he got carried away in facades, and dressing beautifully. we when we start our native domestic brand, after all, our brand is unique, because we make about 10, maybe a little more collections a year, because we make four main collections. we do haute couture collection. we do a lot of collaborations. we are now doing chiporim sports. that is, we are active,

therefore, i believe that a woman in chapurin is always exceptionally good and beautiful. now we're picking up a little male audience already. so i am infinitely constant in fashion, but at night there is no pine tree, or i paint. but when a, a boy from velikiye luki there, velikiye luki, had a desire to create and create what is today igorevich purina, it turns out, i think, e, the answer is very honest and simple. my grandfather was a leading flax processing specialist and he was sent somewhere. he built a plant from scratch , started a team, became a director, and then went somewhere further to build a new plant. my mother was practically the leader a huge knitting factory, my father was engaged in equipping with modern equipment. e various sewing productions.

that is, i, uh, everyone was me, uh, parents of light industry, and when i was especially mom and earlier leaders, when holidays they had to be on duty at night at the factory, when production was empty, and she changed, and i hung around these shops at night and inhaled the scent of fabrics looked at this outfit. i think it's just that it's purely genetically pressed into me, probably love for this story, and with that, i went. go ahead, i'm very grateful to myself that i did not immediately go to college. it was probably the most important thing for me to do. i surprised my parents, because i went to engineering and left velikie luki for vitebsk, i wanted to understand what clothes are, how they are sewn, how they are built, what is going on with them, and then i graduated from this technical school with honors and already then i moved to the institute and experimented, but with all sorts of different stories, so everything was somehow logical for me, and i probably didn’t even think about it.

i recently found myself thinking that i never i didn’t think what i would achieve in life, because i never thought about a career, i just loved what i do. every second i was doing what i love and somehow involuntarily, either one or the other, then a wonderful client, then stars, then shows around the world. how it all happened there, but it's more love is love for people love for life. yes, this life is not loved, of course. but it seems to me that a very great achievement of this new time of ours was that, in principle, both a woman and a man and a child. well, literally in every at least, exactly in a large city of our country and thanks to all sorts of delivery services and generally speaking in different parts. they had the opportunity to dress inexpensively, but beautifully practical, and now these opportunities have, in general, been cut a little. so the question is, how can we replace it? that's all and yes they can.

this is the question that really occupies a lot. here we have these designers , these people in love with clothes, or is it always a piece of such a person whom we all know, but nevertheless, but for the country is someone who, for the beauty of the country, who is responsible, of course, uh, personality designers, first of all, it’s not a matter of knowing about him, they don’t know. it's still a person first and foremost. for himself, who endlessly loves what he does. i suffer a little from, uh, i see how the new generation is obsessed with t-shirts sweatpants in sweatshirts. this is a product that has swallowed their head and does not develop further. unfortunately. i.e, as a designer and my team. we do a lot of collaborations, where everything this is present, but we make unique dresses, haute couture, in which the woman is a goddess, that

is, the team is so strong and voluminous that we can do everything, but the new generation. unfortunately, it limits everything to this simple, but inexpensive form, so much so that they have no future precisely as the personification of the creators of beauty, and not just a product. i think everything is back to normal. everything will be sorted out, quite good, good brands appear, which are just comfortable clothes, i will not call them designer. no, just comfortable. this is also necessary. and i am glad that e pricing policy is democratic and people live in small towns. eh, far away. from moscow they can afford to be beautiful exactly, as they see it, but they still have to work and work on it, but i, uh, risked a lot of times in a good way, when i entered into relationships with mass market companies and we jointly

and chepurin was the second name in these collaboration collections. i did this only so that a person who dreams of such a design would become such a russian designer. and maybe something is dear to him, but in this version, he can afford to buy some collectible item, so we have been cooperating a lot with different companies for about seven years , namely, which make a very large volume of simple, laconic clothes. i add design there and things do not change in price, but already become with a different mood. i have a question, it concerns, probably, those who just, um, maybe can take a step into this profession, and it seems to me, uh, we are talking now about some kind of comfortable shapeless clothes, that is. eh, speaking of that to convey oneself to identify oneself and to convey through the form, then, of course, you will turn to design. if you try not to stand out from the crowd, it is clear that you

are there, and ultimately. in any case, this is a kind of stereotype that is difficult to go through. if you do not think about the content and the idea, that is, inside every design project, there is probably a philosophy, of course, and meaning and meaning. yes, of course, how is it? where does it start with an idea? what is this, what is this process going on with a designer who already can tell say to convey this knowledge. that's it. well, briefly , but succinctly. i’ll even say a little by another example, having made 12 shows in paris in the official schedule of paris fashion week, we all collections were about russia, but i never exploited the theme of folklore ethnography. i showed anna karenina lolita nabokova a story about anastasia, the daughter of nicholas ii, who supposedly survived and it was always a very

modern design. for me. that's really always the basis is a deep meaning amazing quality, but a very modern product, so when i start even work with a client. first of all. i really want it to be singled out, so that it is individual, so that i spend my soul on it and make him deeply happy, and therefore i offer the most beautiful fabrics, the most sophisticated technologies. i encourage you to experiment with volume. but my task is always to make a person happy and make a person beautiful, and ballet costumes. yes, that is clear, there are already laid themes. but you, as a creator, can convey the meaning even more deeply through the costumes. for example, i when i looked in one of the museums of st. petersburg costumes from films, i created them. uh, i don't remember which of the designers, as we've been seeing for many years. in

any case, there were wonderful italians, talents, such a complex work that conveys this contribution and excursion into history and how everything is sewn, how is it created? how is it done? feeling like it is not transmitted from the screen. but you see what a depth of work there was to create from the smallest detail this fire every line, uh, i mean, sewing there thought, as if by all means my first ballet. i never dreamed, uh, of making costumes for a ballet, and the bolshoi theater took the risk of offering me to make a costume and scenery. it was an afirism on my part, because i did not make any scenery. i agreed. and it was surprisingly the ballet of the thirty-fifth year of leonid myasin, the former dancer diaghilev, and this ballet was made by the phenomenal henri mason of the famous artist of that time and the local son allowed me to mother a guy who

never did anything, redid everything. i went so deep into it that i came up with costumes, and the vykorska was up to the city, and there were a lot of movements when the guys lift the girls up on their shoulders and they go diagonally like that. i came up with, so the costume from the dark one was bright and the girl was the lightest. that is, i thought about even doing such things, and in paris, swan lake. i recently came up with a swan tutu like japanese origami. and this performance gave a completely different mood. he would become sharper more rigid and all this drama. she let it out more clearly, so, of course, ballet is for me too. some, but my innermost self, but this is an important manifestation. e yourself as much as possible for you are doing some kind of spitting into history, no matter how it sounds a little strange. right now i am very

worried, because next year there will be a premiere of a three-part ballet, the tempest, the last play by shakespeare, where the theater entrusted me to make costumes. i'm very worried, because i let everything go through me, but i 'm sure that we will do something amazing engineering, because this is the same ballet. to work and it should be convenient and comfortable in order to accomplish, of course, of course, well, that’s why we are given a head to think about everything 10 times to think and create once. well, we still hear a lot in paris, and attempts to limit russian culture abroad, associated with art and literature from e. hmm artists with our opera and so on. here you were touched by this phenomenon somehow touched me. maybe more personal on some level, because in

france i have an angeline with a jakashi - this is one of the most famous french revres. i made four ballet costumes for these performances with him. and i feel, of course, a barrier and i feel, of course, that, probably, swan lake. this was his last job. although we really feel each other. we are moving , developing and art is endless. and most importantly, still maintain respect for each other, and i treat my past and those people with whom i worked with great respect. and i will always think the way they would not show themselves in any situation. no. what did you feel? having signed a contract with the house of dior, i can say that i do not agree with certain elements of this heritage. sometimes it is important to say no, the process of creating fashion

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