well, forgive me, imagine, while she is not a maniac, and she is not crazy. you know, i was once shocked by your phrase. i don't remember, you wrote it, but you have a lot of books. here is one of them, by the way, on my table is the cheshire smile of schrödinger's cat. yes, the book by tatyana chernigovskoy the brain is the language of consciousness , so once i read you that the brain is powered by a ten-watt light bulb . that is, thank god, there is still some kind of a spark of hope, yes, that is, there is technology, but for now, this e, strange uh, the phenomenon of the brain, uh, which is incomprehensible how the brain works is the most complex thing in the universe besides the universe itself. at least from what we know anything about its complexity. just sorry for the tautology goes beyond our general understanding, as i say the brain we are not on the brains of us personally. by this, that is, it is not 10/10. yes, it simply

means now, although i, under threat of execution , do not understand how they think it, but it is supposed to say that there are 86 billion neurons. and billions of neurons in each of the neurons several thousand connections with other places, which means that everything that happens in our brain is the connection of this with this, but several thousand. this is already some kind of universe in short , the number of connections that explain what they do not explain anything, which fix what is happening. we just have them, this is a quadrillion, these are outrageous numbers. excuse me, comrade, colonel, let's go to

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neurons play there, but there are also cells that no one paid attention to before, which is called glial cells, and they have always been considered, that it is like a material and moreover, uh, well, in order for the signal to go, it needs to be isolated. in short , such simple properties were attributed the trouble turned out to be that, firstly, this eagle has its own memory and there are a lot of things and it is 10 times more. that is , in fact, it turns out that we do not know ourselves, and in this sense, that is, we are absolutely. that is, we do not know ourselves in the sense that we see only our vision, they are the real world. yes, we see invisible infrared rays, apparently ultraviolet, we hear only our hearing, that is, the machine that is inserted into us auditory visual, but we know we feel, we feel only our brain. yes, and even errors. because he you see, when it comes to

natural sciences and cognitive science, that part of cognitive science, when something measures , discovers, looks, fixes. eh, then uh , it gives the impression that yes, but you have objective methods. there are tomographs correctly, these follographs , there are all sorts of vibrational devices with which we can see what is true in the brain. and what about the interpretation, so i will get 18 million tons of different numbers. further, what i will do with them further enter into my consciousness. or whatever we call it. yes and i will say to me it seems that this is what you say, but it seems to me that this is what philosophical do not think. yes, in a word, the words of pyatigorsky speak, and er, now moving on to the second part of our reasoning. i think that they will already be devoted to literature more of a degree, but

let me ask myself a question. and how general ideas are possible at all, if everything is so relatively general in a very different sense, uh, mathematical axioms are moral truths, but now, if the general one was on my way to you, i read the name of tolstoy in my diary and this parasitic things, how he contradicts himself all the time he writes opposite things, of course, he writes for himself. this is a diary, after all, it is supposed that he is talking to himself, that it is not at all, in general, and therefore he writes very honestly. i would say, i remember my year with luria with whom , that this is something like inner speech there is such a very stingy syntax. sometimes such simply denominative uh luria lev semyonovich two classics of psychology. yes, yes, yes, internal

speech - it's not that i say the same phrases with my mouth closed. and this is what comes before external speech and everywhere throughout the classics. and e is considered to be a different type of organization of speech. there are no subordinate clauses there and no participials there. and this is an interview. i myself why do i need a big syntax when it is enough to say i arrived, and i know where i arrived or who arrived, yes, that is, these are generally closed such hermetic texts. and this is what you see there, he writes honestly about himself and you see that he writes things that are opposite. that is , he is so great and honest that he is not afraid to say it. but this is very difficult. well, i was also shocked at one time by tolstoy's diaries and e. the topic that

boris mikhailovich ehimbaum wrote about them, the great researcher of tolstoy e he says that tolstoy writes about plans and disappointments. uh-huh sat down to play cards learn to play 66 in the whole game began to learn dutch learn all languages, and through the page i'm nasty ugly i didn't succeed. i failed i was struck by the phrase that tomorrow at two o'clock in the afternoon the thought of music is not what i get the piano. but it's a must have great power to write this to yourself. well, the himbam says that, in general , tolstoy, in many ways, as a writer, was born from the fact that he asked himself a question. how uh is that? well, speaking in such, apparently scientific language. how this exterior is realized, how it becomes external, it has a phrase that makes me here's how it happens, i'll sit down at the table with ink, write a few lines, and it will be exactly what i thought, how it

will go out into the world. this is an amazing story. i will ask you. you know what happened on at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries it was precisely with literature , am i right if i say that what in the 19th century turned out to be absolutely true in the 20th century after the first world war and so on seems to be absolute fantasy. uh, that's the inner monologue in mind, it's not plots. no, no, it is technology from relationships. yes , but if you can name. come on, as if the theme of our consciousness in the literature of e is not always, but there is no akhila, there is a world inside it. yes, it's the whole project. e the will of the gods, if he is angry at the beginning of the iliad achilles or achilles i remember the first line of the menadet. this is all that i have left of the ancient greek language, then he is angry not because he loves the brusseide there, but because it is supposed to be such

a good world in which they lived, somehow all the same, the coordinates were so solid. well, yes, but we don't have coordinates at all, so i just wanted to remind you about the general thing. here's about these common points. it's just a convention. in the sense that through the millennium. yes, gooseberries are a banal thought. it seems to me that the classics, i like to come in from the side. that's for it was now that it was a classic, that’s why it’s a classic and why it is amazing that a person is generally the same all the time, that the scenery changes, while the scenery is not necessary, uh, chairs and trees. yes, but the accents look different, yes, but the main things remain. the times are the same otherwise. uh, why are we interested in ancient tragedies, because everything is the same as it was, that is

the image of a person from the point of view of thinking , consciousness of feeling. yes, of course, that's the whole point. he is like that, he changes into different clothes. and sometimes a candle illuminates like you students in your turn off the electricity, that is , with a candle it is very important, because a completely different world got into the world of electric light nothing wrote to me, in my opinion, it flickers. everything in short, but still it's all entourage yes, but still the basic things are what they are, and they were like that. this is amazing. why, through uh, thousands of years of the life of our civilization, the same things go on, it seems to me that basic things will still be everywhere, that homa is homa for all people there are two ears, two arms, two legs, a head. this

is the kind of documentary thing. i have two questions to finish by the end of the first one. is it possible to say that this whole system is so very similar to homeostasis to something constant, swiftly stretching to the middle of the center, that it is cracking, or it just seems to us now that, more than ever, i hear this crack. i just physically hear it. i hear too. i'm just interested in your opinion, how would the staff. i'm sure we 're in a very dangerous real dangerous belt of transition to a completely different life. we can say that this is, well, some kind of analogue of the fact that i spers karl jaspers called himself time. e the time of the emergence of religious teachings, but biological species. yes, i think

that this is it. this is at least on this topic. if not stronger, stronger, in a sense, not worse, because we can clearly see the time in which two intellects coexist on the planet. and of course, with all our sins, a complete set of what we talked about today and an artificial one, which in general another and no one promised that we would understand what was happening and it was already impossible to turn off this path, it was impossible to return to non-exponential. uh, the economy is not one that must necessarily grow. why should she grow? looks like no. it also seems to me that there is no growth. index. it falls on some bije. and what do i think, it would seem, but no, these are some more serious deep things that are happening. they affect anthropogenesis. as

such, well, yes, because as the experts say - it's not me. i have in mind specialists in the field of artificial intelligence and developers of these neural networks. here, who often got out write a thesis diploma, and not a lot of what he writes. i am from one of these networks. so far i have been in india. i recently talked to her. i'm not a weak young lady, but i have goosebumps. i just got scared. yes, you are talking to a person. this is an instant answer, moreover, this network is made in such a way that it does not have access to the internet; it is trained, since we drove it into it. a wild amount of texts is a linguistic system. she learned to books. she has tremendous speed, and she is not stupid at all, the developers use the word

singularity when they talk about such things because of this it follows, what is the way back? no, we either catch. i don’t know who we are, and we either catch this situation now and stop it, which will not happen, of course, or it breaks out of our power, and we can’t do anything with it those fools, as well as their listeners who say , listen you is in vain astrology. yes, but conspiracy theory and don't scare anyone, because it's taught us understand, they are no longer so. it was like that a while ago, but it's a plus. to you interface, understand? it’s you who haven’t been for a long time, firstly, and secondly, e jin doesn’t get back into the bottle, it’s clear if we have some kind of hope, then only art is nothing more, because art - this is

our human is an imitation . and, of course, you can train the program, and it will give you dougers, while not photocopies of dougers or copies. and as if durer will be another durer, but only a copy. here so that's why we don't need it. i think that this is the only way out that remains for us and uh, after all, our hope for art and literature remains in force, so i uh with great. i am pleased to thank tatyana vladimira chernigovskaya for this conversation. thank you tatyana vladimirovna, i thank you, see you for two. this is true and uh, and our dear interlocutors i tell you, as always with pathos, and now read life with hope with pleasure, dear friends.

today we gathered our thoughts on tolstoy and dostoevsky

therefore, these are absolutely not mutually exclusive figures, but you understand. this is what it could be, a playful division, that after all , people like to read, or, uh, some people get attached more and not only not only readers, because writers get attached too. eh, we remember the same bunin who with all his heart is for tolstoy with the liberation of tolstoy and against dostoevsky e. i mean, there is something in it. e. e, such that it can, yes, but uh, i 'm rather closer here, of course, that's what tatyana said. i, too, e different strings of the soul,

e resonate e on e, after all, and at different ages. e on uh, uh, then uh on a sweatshirt, then she is dostoevsky, so to speak. e such motives and positions. yes hmm well, you know, i, uh, also thought about the fact that there is such a stereotype. so let's put it a little bit, knead the first thing we say dostoevsky means orthodoxy. and what, in general? well, how do you automatically love orthodox dostoevsky and so on, yes, yes, that's a very big question. yes, in general, where is the dostoevsky church and so on, but we say tolstoy, meaning a monk, which, in general, is also a big question, because how many times have prices been said there, when karenina forgives anna on her deathbed yes, this is generally one of the most christian scenes, maybe in the world literature of ivan ilyich and the death of ivan ilyich about but about , which we will definitely talk about today, i hope. here's what about these stereotypes tatyana well

, first of all. e, dostoevsky e does not write from the church, because he writes about god inside a person. he writes, in fact, about the image of god yes and uh, he does not believe the space of the world into the sacred profane, and it would be nice if we didn’t share it in general, that is, for him , what happens in the church actually happens in the world. and, as it were, well, this ecumenical liturgy that ends with taking karamazov. it’s as if it’s written directly to them, because they didn’t understand for too long, and he decided to say as much as possible, as if in the forehead , that’s all, yes, but that’s all and uh, at least with crime and punishment, starting very clearly, he always has the deepest church scene in crime punishment takes place in a pub. here are the marmalades, yes, but the future is about the future life, yes, and i’m the last court to speak there, yes, in fact, the atmosphere is tavern. yes, in the dwelling of the e marmalade

, yes, and there, too, confession and communion and e transfiguration take place. here is this hmm denial and rebellious human mind. yes, in some higher form of forgiveness. that's it. eh, dostoevsky, he is built on the same paradoxes on which the gospels are built. here he is not, no matter how he provides us. that's it, that's flat and flat and comfortable ground. yes, like they came to the temple and stood there. well, as alyosha says, yes, if if the lord said, take your cross. follow me, it's not enough for me to give 2 rubles. and walk the day. here andreevich wants to object aga or pick up the case. the fact is that for me, dostoevsky , of course, is easter. uh, such a writer's problem is that, for example, uh hmm uh in 1992 .

for the first time, nikita ostrov's phd messengers posted such a letter from archimandate kern. e. and bunina e. i. there e. hmm it's eighty second year. e, if i'm not mistaken, that the thirty- fourth issue and there is just e archmagnet ker e, declares his love. to whom he tried to, which means for what e for him maybe, he is closer to god, e, writes e closer than dostoevsky than, dostoevsky despite the excommunication. how does he explain it somehow? he explains it. ah, my love for him. yes , that's exactly the way to say it, and here these are deeply christian approach. in a sense, here he is, uh, even saying that not only as an artist, but also in his hmm such theological searches of tolstoy, uh, of course, hot. this is picked up by ivan bunin

, of course. he's there, uh, impartially responds. e about dostoevsky, in short, uh, there is a problem here, of course, but different aspects of such russian orthodox christianity are touched upon by tolstoy dostoevsky , as you know, how very much i love this comparison, like uh, heidegger once said that uh, without cologne of the cathedral hmm uh, the stone, that's not uh, didn't quite become a stone in order for the stone to be a stone must kenin cathedral, as well as thick. dostoevsky for our e russian. i would say even the russian orthodox culture is all the same. eh, at least. you are an artistic creation. yes, not journalism, this is something uh, well, i don’t know, something like, maybe, uh. plato aristotle do you agree, yes, a very good comparison with aristotle's plato, because really, as it were. eh, dostoevsky is

the whole product, and tolstoy is the whole product. well, it’s impossible to say that the spirit is there, but it’s high and beautiful, but the soul is not important until you master the soul and space carcasses and you will not master. yes, it will not pass to the spirit, of course, of course, and here he is talking about tolstoy . this is the human coexistence, which they and at some points really lead to the very heights of the spirit. yes, this is the most dostoevsky scene. here is tolstoy's bath-rooting. here and this, that is, this is not uh , again, it does not exclude one another, but naturally, something is closer to someone, because someone uh say, that is already burning in spirit. yes , he is looking for suddenly discovers for himself such a thought as dostoevsky follows him ready. here, and someone lives and quite, as it were , uh, well. e lives here in this middle

world, but here is martha yes, here is here and here is martha it’s as if one cannot say that she is not needed. yes, it is very necessary. she and, as it were , without her, maria cannot exist either. that's because the submarine was sitting at the new christ's, someone should take care of life, it's interesting, that's it, but still then. we are talking about their relationship to religion as well, yes, here i have a few questions. the first one is which one we have already indirectly reached out to him through the death of ivan ilyich, the theme of death is central, the theme of any religious consciousness. what is death? how to overcome it? what to do with it and so on. how is it allowed? here is tolstoy and worthy. well, uh, as you know. uh, central point. on sunday, tolstoy did not receive. uh, and that was his main problem. we will remember there , let’s say the famous arzamas horror and others

, etc. animal and spiritual in the same novel of the resurrection about tolstoy , fortunately, dostoevsky did not have this. e here and e, in this case e, of course they e, well, they diverged at the central point. e. well, uh, uh, i think the most important thing. so now i think so, it’s still, uh, to distinguish between the ideas of ideology, uh, and uh, heroes and uh the world itself, and here we see, uh, if we are so serious about this in tolstoy and dostoevsky, uh, that- something close, because in the literature. e in literature in literature is close to russian culture in a big time, which is close to the idea e's ideology does not explain this person as

such? there is a stable expression tolstoy's favorite heroes here he is tengevich alizov about this in particular natasha rostova why are we for an ideology for an idea? no, we love her, as such, uh, we pity ivan ilyich as such , uh, and dostoevsky has the same thing. uh, here, uh, he was leaning on ideology. he, too, needs to be loved and pitied, like a marmalade. and it is a deeply christian approach to man. this is what ideologies are for a person. still, it's not posture. there is indeed a difference. it seems to me that in the works of death in the works of one and the other. like, well, again, after all, death. eh, well , dostoevsky's death is simply not there. here, despite the fact that he has a lot of deaths of deaths. here, but

thick after all. uh, if we're not talking about the fact that he draws because here, yes, here you are, pierre who laughs at all, yes, they wanted to lock me mine in me my immortal soul, in general suddenly understands that there are no boundaries. and if you are free, yes, and if you are really this spirit, and then , who can catch and lock you up at all, who can restrict you and so on, the same again and yes to the death of ilyich’s bathroom when , well, everyone it seems that it’s generally already so to speak, senseless yes, a corpse, and he’s just walking. here's to the greatest in general passes the greatest events of his life. the main thing , after all, is that it seems to me that after all, perhaps you will not agree with me that death is necessary already, so that there is no death. e in the sense that dostoevsky does not depict, say, a dying person, and here from the inside

of his dying consciousness, but always a reaction. some other, but not from within. uh, tolstoy dares to portray and show, it's pretty creepy. eh, somehow trying to shock this, of course, very much, because a very important thing, that is, other reactions of others or in the way you monologue from within the consciousness of the hero himself. this is not the case, it seems. eh, that's why it seems to me that udostoevsky is never there. e, there is no hard border between the life of death, as there is no between the sacred, yes, that is, it is interesting that yes , because if a person lives this life in the spiritual dimension, then death itself, in fact, does not change anything. here, and he has all the heroes pulling him up there, but again, yes, he received all this. now let's remember. this is a person who, uh, says , uh, the most stumbling, at least, if not the deepest words, but love yes

, because, well, dostoevsky always through the most low. he goes to the highest, through the funniest, to the great himself. that's when fyodor pavlovich explains that for him there was no maveshak. and in general, as it were, well, the mere fact that she is a woman. this is already half of everything, and so on, because he, in fact, speaks of god's infinite love for anyone who wears human images. yes, he thinks so, he not only thinks, he also feels like that, which is much more serious. that is, he is experiencing this love, which is simple, because there is, well, yes, a woman, yes, then already love it was directed at her, but the problem was still death. otherwise, how is masha lying on the meeting table, if you say masha is lying on the table and immediately begins without transition without without but reflection on how she died. yes, when we meet, why can't we meet here, how we will meet there, that is, yes

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gathered thoughts about tolstoy and dostoevsky today, philologists tatiana kosakina and ivan ivanov i, vladimir yoke. yes, we continue dostoevsky who says this is super well-known, that if someone proved to me that the truth is in them, then i would announce us or would prefer to remain a cross and not with the truth, that is , theological probably is not quite correct, but all over the power of the utterance. it’s impossible to object to this, and even tolstoy, who , in my opinion, writes in one of the letters that christ is who he calls himself, he is god, he is the son of man. well, then here is the translation of the gospel or the so-called? yes where in general sunday? no, where is the best place? no , well, here are miracles, even miracles, we would forgive him. yes, but on sunday there is no and there is such a mahatmaganda, yes, there is konstantin leontiev, who exclaims that

there is no tolstoy organ, who believes. here was tolstoy's organ, which, of course, he had an organ that believes. this, i think, like the same scar, on which everything is, tolstoy somehow flew off. yes, he was worn. image probably still yes, but since 15. anyway, and uh, he also believed. eh, finally russian. eh, but there was a problem here, and the problem lies in the fact that it seems to me that both tolstoy and dostoevsky quite clearly, as it were, polymerized in their time with the ideas of the enlightenment. eventually. uh, rousseau, he's part of the enlightenment. not so to say e is uh, so to speak a piece that contradicts him so that's the problem. e.