i didn't lift one leg. even though it's been six months now. i don't even remember which one i got. it seems to me that there are a lot of procedures for these days between the short free program. i went to training and didn't jump at all. i just slipped, it even hurt, well , go back. i just glided forward like a christmas tree, it was evident, because i commented on these competitions. and you didn’t jump on what you need to warm up, not a single jump. i found. but it seems to me that i jumped, just like a triple glutton. that is, i followed directly, and you just rode, and then i alexander grishin also told his colleague that something was wrong with mark, the markle of forgiveness was jumping. it was my conscious decision. i felt and knew that if i go into some kind of burnout difficult, where can i make a mistake. and if i make a mistake, i won't be able to go on the ice. and when i go out for hire, there is no adrenaline, but i will finish the program,

that is, well, good or bad, this is another question, but i will get there. and if before the adrenaline hits me, i fall, i can’t just go to the start. and so it was it’s just that such a conscious decision to rent everything to take a chance turned out to be not so bad at first, because i really have, i don’t remember, it seems to me that my left leg was raised like that and that’s it. well, then you followed a few months of treatment without competition. i tried five more racists to come forward. well, as if in the hospital i rode a little the day before i did a short salchow and decided what to say, well , it wasn’t a selective olympics, maybe it was worth taking their

health and the result more seriously, right? looking back in particular, it tempers the character of the russian championship specifically. but, for example, the stage in samara but now i know that you can jump quadruplets and tomaxes on one leg, in fact. that is, if you were able to do it, then, well, how to say, when you do something in very difficult unnatural conditions, when you find yourself in ordinary conditions, it probably becomes easier in some way, maybe a little a strange comparison, but there i found when i was in good health there. i always jump, and in the numbers there and at the final,

despite the small area of ​​light. and at the beginning it was hard for me, and then with experience i began to do to do. and when i come to practice on a nice comfortable normal size ice with normal light. well, it's just easier to do. this is a free program podcast and we return to our conversation with olympic champion mark kontrak russian challenge the little prince audience award. and such a decision of the judges it just seemed to me that the number was overloaded precisely with the props to the props, that there were very few of you and there were a lot of everything else. although the image,

of course, was chosen very well, it was nikita mikhailov's idea, we discussed it , we decided that we should stage stopudovo, it would be good. i have heard opinions repeatedly that perhaps the scenery was too much. personally, i personally like it visually, probably, if there would be a little more time, a little more music, but it would turn out like a ride. it could have been more and this inquisition would not have been. there wasn't much in the eyes there. part of the audience, but i don't know, i like the way it was, but the judge's assessment offended you, or the main thing is that people liked me, the assessments do not offend me. i live by the principle that i ride the judges are worth the score. i can be it agree disagree. this is something

secondary, i don’t know, i always think that they gave me points. well, then i dashed off on such points. so this show is not in this respect different from ordinary competitions. well, probably, too, you know, it didn’t flash, therefore. well, to be honest, camila rode a pedana there and i don’t know, i somehow assumed that he had will be under 20 points. and when i heard that he had 17, i thought no. well, if kamil has seventeen, then you are doing nothing. well, we also missed you very much at another jumping tournament, which you did not participate in, you watched the guys. yes, i looked, it seems to me that at that moment i was either in the hospital, or just got out of it, and i was still offended, despite the fact that i understood the state we were in now. i was very hurt and sad that i was not there. here's hoping this year this next season will be fine. i

still participate, i want to fight there. you can imagine, i also hope that this tournament will take place. i will also participate in it, only in a different capacity, as usual. i really hoped, i'm returning to the russian challenge. do you even know what was waiting for you? you are an artist. i was waiting for you to do something, like this. here in his here in this artistic style of art. that maybe you 'll draw something, maybe you took something that you didn't think it's aside. i think by about art. it is absolutely. you just recently returned from training camp and these training camps took place in a very unexpected place. at least for me in altai. i was there too, but on a rehabilitation basis. we were standing up together, let's say. so we had such a recovery fee. i kinda liked it. in general, i was delighted with altai. how about you? i also really liked it, there is crazy nature. we lived in an incredibly picturesque place, and either katun and in the middle of

the river there are two small islands on one of which there is a hotel. that is you sushi you move or cross the bridge to the island with hotels. he. well, it's straight big island, that is, there is a giant hotel, a place where to take a walk. and from this island there is another bridge to the second, where there is just a forest and well , just a very picturesque place. wherever you go, everywhere there is a river, hills, trees, that is, just like that, well, picturesque russia, even you drive away, again, from the place where you live, you come to the skating rink, it’s beautiful to eat on some kind of excursion, it’s beautiful there, yes, we guys went rafting atvs. and it really makes a very cool impression. i didn't expect it to

be so beautiful. i have repeatedly heard that everyone says altai is very cool very picturesque cool. but, probably, while it turned out to me, i was not sure of the conductivity of these words. we were also in the eleventh year of the camp and immediately after our first world championship and us we traveled a lot on it. uh saw just incredible. natural some just heavenly views. that's what i always want to come back to. that is, you want to tell our viewers that altai is a must visit. altai is cool. come, i understand correctly that it was a dry gathering in altai, that is, without ice. no, we skated, and you skated, yes, that is, there is also a skating rink. yes, about 20 minutes away. here is the hotel. yes, there is a skating rink and quite modern there are large halls. we had a full collection. but just not super intense because someone just got back from vacation there.

i haven't gone on holiday there yet. that's why we had one ice, one ofp or cross or both, and then, a couple of times we played volleyball. i mean, it's a huge room. we pulled the net and played straight. i don’t know, we were tested by 12 people, it was right full. yes, and the coaches, vitaly butikov and andrey borisovich , are the office of the mittens. played. used to play with us usually plays. but this time, in my opinion, i did not play. but, when we go to kislovodsk , almost everyone participates, that is, this collection was rather a hitch. after this season or is it warming up for the next i think because the first part knows the training quite active, and the second specifically i

had such a restorative large part. that is, i went to various massage procedures. and in the bathroom maral? including recover and prepare after rest for the new season with what mood then do you look to the future next season with enthusiasm that you were expected honestly sounded the same kondratyuk returning to sweeping away everything and everyone in its path. it's embarrassing for me to say that. i'm not that kind of person, but will i try to skate well? as best i can, well, i'll try, probably better than the program set, and a short one yes, a short one i roll right on. and that is, nikita is arbitrarily also nikita, but still in the process of staging. do you like it yourself?

yes, i don’t know why they didn’t continue cooperation with angelica, we decided to replenish the demonstration about the program, we didn’t think about it, but nikita i just really, really, really trust the music and the production itself, because there have been times that i didn’t like, in part, what they put on for me? but i was convinced that it was cool. and i should just wait to see, and everything will be great. and when they told me this, i kind of stepped on myself and thought that, well, if adults are professionals, they say, so i will endure and look, and ultimately in my subjective opinion. it turned out well, i know perfectly well that it doesn’t matter. well, it would be wrong, in principle, to ask such questions and you definitely won’t answer it, but still a little bit like this, let’s touch on this topic about your new programs, the fans are waiting. how radically will this and the news program of the season differ from the previous or examples. it will be the same mark short, that is, the seasons are straight hearts. thanks a lot.

what is the old mark, if in terms of some kind of drive and dynamics? well, maybe in part, right? in terms of the idea of ​​musical accompaniment of this concept, but no, this is different, of course, something from what i have, from some of my strengths, it will be present. well, simply, because, well, i have such a strong side, why not use it, but at the same time i am ready to develop development in that this is not about new music in some new, probably new style. by at least in the short one, for sure, if the free one is somehow possible, probably. connect to other programs. with a stretch, that short is specifically a new, probably, musical direction.

well, the musical style let it be so , and well, there is probably a development in this i was intrigued very soon we will all know in 3 months the test skates of the russian national team and i wish you to attend them to ride in full force with a healthy drift, and so be it all season. thank you very much for coming with us was the olympic champion mark kontraktyuk. the most modest, probably, the olympic champion in the world. and just a good guy. thank you very much. it was a free program podcast. i am maxim tarankov and my today's guest is the most team player of the russian figure skating team mark kondratyuk. i couldn't help but do that.

to paraphrase a little bismarck politics, like diplomacy, is the art of the possible. hello today, we have gathered our thoughts about what is happening with international relations fyodor aleksandrovich lukyanov international observer andrey andreevich sushentsov. historian and political scientist, dean of the faculty of international relations at mgimo, i am vladimir legoyda. hello gentlemen. hello there is such a thing as a historical distance and it is customary to speak so a little academically looking up that until some time has passed it is very difficult to assess the situation in which you are. how much is the law. as far as the lack of historical distance. today it allows us to answer the question that i boldly put in the title of our podcast. what is happening with international relations? i think that historical distance allows you to look just differently. but this does not mean that

being. e inside the process it is impossible to analyze it. uh, another thing is that, well, as they say, uh, the inhabitants of the roman empire of the era of its collapse have no idea that it is disintegrating , the ancient greta did not know that they were ancient. and even the participants of the first world war. they didn’t know that it was the world’s later called it, and therefore, of course, comprehension, uh, which embeds events in the historical line , happens later. probably, but on the other hand, here we are now if this is how we live here and now it seems to me that at least for people who are professionally engaged in this. now it is more or less clear where we are going to build. we do not know how it will end, that is, we do not know the consequences of the consequences, we do not know. and what is it already more or less, understand? i think that the period of uncertainty, which has troubled many specialists, including the last 20 years, has come to an end and

some clarity has come, at least the dynamics of international events have high inertia. and what the future will be history there, in half a century, for example , textbooks on the history of international relations of this period will be written. and some date will be named the starting point of the current processes. there in the mid-nineties of the last century. the beginning of the formation of a polycentric order, russian-chinese american relations, a bet on nato expansion at a unipolar moment and the accumulation of contradictions, which ended up at the beginning of the third decade, and the 21st century first in ukraine a. then somewhere else they got up to see such a systemic crisis that who knows, it may not last a single decade. edward carr describes in retrospect. true, the interwar period between the first and second world wars called it a long crisis, and it is possible that we are entering such a long phase into a phase

in which there are no events of such jerks that change qualitatively and quickly. ah, international relations. how did they do it, for example, the second world war in a relatively short historical period, a sharp re-laying of all the foundations of international relations, military, economic, legal, ideological and the formation of a stable frame for several decades, while we are in the middle of a slow process in which all these foundations are also in question under a certain pressure and inertia of these processes. god forbid, it would be slow , long, yet fast, and reloading means some kind of catastrophe. ah, slow transformations. uh, let's get together. i mean hmm so slow. i think this is debatable. i agree that it has been accumulating for a long time, but when the accumulated has already detonated, now everything is happening extremely fast, much faster than you

might think. also, i thought about, uh, the historical distance question . distance does one important thing that we can't do today. it removes the unnecessary, because these are three things that are happening now and we think are extremely important at a historical distance. they will disappear, they just won't exist. well, somewhere there small letters. and now we can't appreciate it. this is what makes a historic event. i want to offer you, but some cross-cutting thought, which for me seems to be extremely important and dear, let's say life, as a theory it lends itself to rational construction , life, as reality does not lend itself to rational ones. so you said that well , more or less, everything is clear, in the late eighties in the early nineties it also seemed that everything was clear. period of historical optimism. bipo crash. on the system of international relations , the confrontation is over, everything means democracy has won the world will become stable , predictable, wonderful, bright end

of history, then with all the stops, nothing it worked. yes, then he said somehow remarkably historical optimism was replaced by misanthropic pessimism. yes and now exploded into the market. that's all the same, how rational is the design of forecasting. in general, perhaps you correctly remembered the turn of the eighties and nineties, and indeed then an excellent feature of er perception was that it seemed that we understand what will happen next. well , because it’s not just a. we just know that nothing else can be, it’s more rutted than, regardless of the relationship, we like she or not, there is nowhere to go. and the same phenomenon. uh, apply globalization has long been thought to be globalization. here it is, and in which everything is and nothing more can be. we can hate it, but it is, but it is necessary. due that not to us, but there were people who already then said something else and it is easy to find people who said no. e

lord, it doesn’t happen like that and it won’t happen like that, but here comes the next question. and uh, how should it be built, in general, intellectual and scientific and other communication, so as not to succumb here this wave, because this is also relevant now. fedor very aptly noted that, uh , we need certainty, and this intellectual construction of our life in the late eighties and early nineties was based on the experience of the end of the second world war , when for the first time humanity consciously approached the results to a catastrophic conflict and said, but now we will come up with a stable world that will work according to the rules that we will propose in the key document of the united nations and stabilize this framework. perhaps for a long time. this is an alliance of the five main countries, they will support this framework and indeed.

uh, except for the periphery, uh, international relations, this framework held out for quite a long time in the late eighties, there was, apparently, the same mm hope that now we will build the same stable world on a slightly different basis. ideologies means american values, universal values, american financial other infrastructure universal and we will now live in peace and happiness, we must remember that the episode of the end of the second world war is exceptional for world history, if you look at the previous episode, let's say the end of the first world war. such an attempt was unsuccessful , we could not rationally build a system that would work and be stably maintained, previous similar attempts, conscious conservation, an established order. they were extremely short-lived international relations. your norm to rivalry or leading here i just wanted to ask you, yes, this is the thought that you have already met. he says that the world today is returning to international

relations to its historical norm. yes, that is, but do i understand correctly that, relatively speaking, i recently listened to the lectures of our wonderful antiquity scholar. surikov about the peloponnesian war. and i thought so, here it is. what time am i talking about now, really this is the same ancient greece or some, but are there such things in which this is normativity on the material of the pyloponnesian war. actually classics theories of international relations derive the main maxima. this is the concept of his realism in international relations, when countries compete with each other for their interests, their national understanding. it is in each case very individual criteria of common sense are also very individual to them must be treated. eh, respectfully. uh, that is, our concept of common sense is not at all necessary. the same in germany, the same in the usa, the same in china , in india, and this requires respect. and i think that cognitive realism allows for more that

or, stand firmly on your feet, comprehending, that 's what is happening, what do you think, well, in any case, he creates the illusion that you are standing there on your feet. i would like to develop this. it seems to me that andrei said a very important thing. it is important for understanding today that the second world war really had a very strong influence on our consciousness, meanwhile it really was unique in many ways and it ended too, unusual, in general , there are not so many wars in the history of mankind that would end in complete defeat one of the parties to the complete destruction of germany in its former form did not become japan in its former form. well, you can say, too, there she is later , well, this left a very big imprint on further understanding, when the cold war ended, the feeling arose the same , only this complete rout, as they thought. i have comprehended not a country, but a certain system of thought, a certain worldview, let's say all worldviews, except for one, and

now this is from the number of the worldview. it didn't even win. it just proved that others are not necessary. that's all we have today is the consequences of such an end to this very one or an interruption of the cold war, but this began to change rather quickly. this is the idea of ​​the victory of the worldview. this is what will provide. that's what, we have already said, yes to change. it has become. rather , the idea that the worldview did not defeat others began to change later than the signs of this appeared. well, for a very long time they tried to pretend that they were some kind. well, costs in the way of the right goal. well, even though i don’t know, there, if we talk about the academic space, then already in the sixties the concept of political culture appeared there, yes , which simply told us that institutions and processes. they will be completely different. work political institutions in different political cultures, then what you said, yes, andrey andreevich well, you know me. er , maybe i'm not quite. here i understand, here is

the question, when we associate with the same ancient greeks. yes, indeed, some basic things are basic patterns, they do not change, but this is the context, life is about the context. yes, he was fundamentally different. well, that is, military operations there during the a war of athens and sparta. they did not lead to similar results at all, not in human casualties, in anything it was fundamentally a different world, it seems that the laws are different, but the consequences are for everything that hits the nerves. yes, what makes a person, uh, a person exists rational. yes, they were fundamentally different. uh, some historians of antiquity. it is said that even there there are hoplite battles. they are generally more sports, for example, they could have been numbered there, dozens there. sometimes even a few and actually some others were pushed back, they ran away, we won. then and here they are, so to speak, running around there throughout civilization. it seems to me that brutalization and humanization developed simply along two tracks at the same time. they walked,

as it were, together at first. hmm, more and more cruel forms of confrontation and some kind of attempts to curb it. and about, uh, how the nature of war is changing. right now at 23 . there's a lot to discuss here on this subject. where it moves forward back to the side, because well, those, uh, you actions that we are now observing, generally speaking, no one has been preparing for them for many, many years or even decades , they thought that this was impossible. it remained in the 20th century. well, please. today we have gathered our thoughts about what is happening with international relations in the modern world fedor alexandrovich lukyanov, international observer andrey andreevich sunzhentsov, to the kants of the faculty of international relations to the hero. i am vladimir jehovah, continue andrey andreevich when you talk about school there realism. yes, there are other schools, but some kind of productive dialogue is possible between them, and

how practical it is for real diplomacy. i believe more meaningful for real diplomacy. this is the experience of the national experience of the experience. the elite of existence in that international environment, which in reality we observed a lot of experiments in the nineties and 2000s, especially from small countries that recently gained independence, which tried to import foreign policy, along with sometimes the diaspora textbook by professors, there the individual caucasian republics suddenly presented themselves as some kind of small western european country with a different neighborhood belt with a different economic environment with different security threats and tried to behave somehow differently. yes, countries invent themselves in their circumstances. but hmm, remember that each country is an experiment and the final is open to it and the elite. testing boundaries. perhaps they are this experiment. here they test the strength of the state. how did the experiment

stand if it went through a series of major invasion test revolutions of economic er, turmoil. uh, some catastrophic natural events and so on and so forth are from the side of the state. let 's say that micronesia has a very special foreign policy environment. there is a state in africa there is a state of southeast asia of latin america for each of them in general the world looks a little different and for them, uh, some universals, about which we are talking. here and now they can have their own shade, but if we talk about the basic ones, e, the postulates of the struggle for influence for status of military-political rivalry, then in general they develop approximately according to the same rules. there are laws there, like, uh, there is current in an electrical outlet, if something is there, it means to climb with a sharp nail, then from there a current will strike and small countries, some of them had the misfortune to experience for themselves. what is it exactly, or tok e, in the 21st century, is still

going to the outlet. yes, it's still getting worse. and this invention of the bicycle brings them back a little, uh, to reality and to the tradition of a realistic understanding of what your foreign policy potential your resources. how you should formulate your interests, and this is always very subjective. you can express it in many different ways, and together it puts us all together. well, according to the degree of realism of your policy, there is, for example, a small country in the middle east, israel, which, in terms of the totality of its foreign policy resources and experience, has been foreign policy in its short period of existence. can give a head start. uh, many long-standing countries. yes, they went through a lot of crises on their own, they emerged from them, continuing to divert such a rather active line to an external political one and what is called they play for their own e, their vital interests are constantly at stake e, and the measure of their e or something, such a tendency to fall into illusion, it is very low,

strange in a different international environment, where less threatening they can afford the experiment. and tell me, but, uh, again , the changing context and conditions in which we exist, here is the information society. about influence. e of the new information space on domestic politics, well , dissertation diplomas are already being defended, with some i even had a chance to get acquainted. and in general, with all the critical attitude to what they are trying to analyze, so to speak, but this influence exists. here is the changed information environment. what impact does it have, and again on international relations, if at all , it has to what andrey just said in many ways, but if in the most applied, then let's say the work of diplomats has become absolutely unbearable, that is , the classical approaches, that is, these means, yes, because we know from books, but this is nothing and there is no discreteness and confidentiality.

no, on the contrary, he spat out something so fried faster than you, like, how much more . and constructivism, which , generally speaking, is correct, andrey called a small country that he imagined himself to be an eastern european paradise. unfortunately, the long-dead, accidentally bright , witty man was such an entrepreneur in socks and benduki, yes , who left. he then formulated brilliantly. here is this phenomenon, when relations with russia began to strain there, then the boycott of the embargo and so on, and he said at some meeting. listen, let's imagine that there is a sea there is no russia there is a sea. we don't look at it at all. we live like this here are the squints. hmm, let's imagine that this

is nothing. and it seems to me that this is the triumph of such an approach, which admits that one can imagine that there really is a sea. this is a product of the information age, because the information age it actually constructs everything around us. we are disorientated to a greater extent, it turns out. well, it’s further disorienting from the beginning, then you get used to it, you already understand what it is. and where is she not to start diving into this sea? just andrei andreevich correct me. if i misunderstood you, somewhere i met the idea that this is one of the characteristics of the information society, when you feel like a participant. yes, in terms of international relations, this is a complete illusion, because, of course, there is no actor in international relations. there, an ordinary observer is not here in domestic politics, after all, this is a little bit wrong. or i'm wrong. well, how else to interpret this wave, when people celebrate some event on themselves. uh, in social networks they put certain images on their avatar picture, they

perceive themselves as participants in this process. this affected my feelings of thinking i imagine myself as an actor, then these many are not actors. many people on the dashboard pressed a button, sympathy solidarity here, in connection with something, there are terrorist attacks, let's say, yes or vice versa, there is some kind of triumph, a major conflict. here in the united states of great britain, some western others are skilled in information warfare. countries. they are now, uh, very good at directing, uh, the flow of emotional reactions of citizens, english-speaking in the west and other regions of the world, to the desired image of perception that is happening in ukraine, moreover, an intuitive person. maybe e to understand that e here is the picture that contemplates, it does not correspond to his deep intuition about what is happening, but since there are very logical, seemingly such constructions in a synonymous series, he intellectually finds them. e opportunities

to disagree with this. and i think that this is just another one of the means of international relations that you need to understand well and gradually master this tool. works and swims in this environment. well, that is how it is or otherwise, it still affects. it seems to me that it affects more than us. i would like and than we think. i remember not so long ago there was such an incident. in general, this was filmed at the g20 meeting in indonesia. uh, operators, therefore, lagged behind in the public domain, a very funny skirmish between the representative of the prc, xi jinping. and, for example, canadian minister justin trudeau, but the day before they had negotiations. well, normal negotiations with closed doors and xi jinping contrary to chinese tradition in general. it is at the reception . he went up to the work and said what kind of disgrace, why is it that what we discussed yesterday today in your newspapers is not done the way it is, as they look at it and work.

he sincerely doesn’t even understand what the grandfather’s problem is, in general, why why this is happening not because the labor idiot is there or he is a boor, just for him, like the whole generation of politics. especially. he's pretty good. young well, sort of, well, he's young so he's oriented legitimation is a constant reporting to the public what i'm doing? look here. so i talked to you see, here i am this is what we discussed. here i am to him and this one , contrary to the whole tradition. here, and the axis is classic, but between us, we spoke with you, this is confidential, but in serious things and this is a collision. and this is just a consequence of the fact that the very people who put up avatars, they influence, because they form a mass, which the politician , somewhat conditionally speaking, china has sounded. let's talk about the east a few words. let's say sergeevich lavrov spoke here, but at the un he recently said yes to the western minority, which

should be more carefully most. i remember talking to you, and on similar topics he said that we are all the time. well, a few years ago we were talking with the west, but the chinese do not understand this and do not really like it. what awaits us here? i think our challenge is that the chinese and indians of another non-west perceive the russian western confrontation as an episode of struggle within the west, and we need to work with this perception to show that we are not the west, that we are there in the north let's say or what, we are the leader this world majority or someone else original state civilization is written in the same new concept. well, let's say yes, but this is the perception in which they feel what is happening, in fact. this is a conflict of the white civilization within itself over, in general, not even ideological essences, but there is a dispute between economic entities. although uh westerners are trying to present it as an ideological struggle. on the contrary, we will need to show that what is happening goes beyond the struggle. so inside western

civilization. it is essentially like this a prolonged confrontation about the principles, uh, on which international relations in the 21st century will build unipolar or polycentric here, of course, we are like-minded, if india is from china and of course, what is happening is the main new feature - this is that in 500 years, in reality, significant centers arise in reality economic political war gravity. in the east, the east becomes for us an important and large new value that we need to know. but the danger is the one that we identified in this recent western projection. yes, when the world was offered a certain unified logic of life, yes, a single system of values, or the only one, more precisely, yes , here it is here on the path where it rises, so to speak, the sun in the east is not waiting for us.

it seems to me not, because this is a feature of the western world, universalism and confidence that this cultural ethical system is the only correct one and therefore it should be extended to everyone, but it probably started with the crusades and the great geographical discoveries, where it was so say there was a large economic subject element, maybe the main one, but it was all packaged. here is this civilizing mission. the east lives, otherwise the east is not a single conglomerate. it's a lot of different cultures, sometimes with each other. well, not at all, if not alien, then very far from each other, and the meaning of this very term is the world majority, which we have, as the western majority, should not be confused here with the fact that this is some kind of consolidated one. yes, the essence of the world majority, like multipolarity, is that no one does anything to anyone imposes. and we also do not impose anything on anyone, and not only because it seems like we have nothing to carry now, but also

because no one needs it, there is no demand, the americans have already encountered this. if someone tries to carry his torch, he will face the same thing. today we have gathered our thoughts about what is happening with international relations in the modern world fedor aleksandrovich lukyanov, international observer andrey andreyevich sunzhentsov of the deans of the faculty of international relations gemoy. i am vladimir jehovah, we continue often we are talking about, but in this new emerging system of international relations. what is the place of russia or what should be the place of russia, as theologians would say, but in fact i want to ask you what the place should not be. that's who we definitely don't need to become. here in this new emerging degree. we cannot become a power of order. we are in the current border, as a country has existed since about the period of peter i, but here we are, as a large large state, a large center of gravity

in the north of eurasia must depart in the first three of the top five, and world powers to maintain subjectivity in the struggle of these great countries. we roughly understand how demographics will develop until the middle of the century, how will economic trends look like uh? we hope, more or less predictably, now politics will line up on the horizon. there, for a decade or two, russia must retain its subjectivity. it must be a strategically sovereign country that excludes the possibility of dependencies. from someone it was not possible to maintain this autonomy the ability to choose the possibility of laying own destiny in the 21st century. i would say the same thing in a slightly different way, we cannot be anything in addition to avoid dependence , it will always be impossible to depend on someone in some way, dependence here is just a task, so that then there would already be more, so that different dependencies would balance each other, because if