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[000:00:00;00] r, who solved very complex tasks in certain sectors of the front on the verge of self-sacrifice, and sometimes beyond the limit of self-sacrifice, as it was in artyomovsk, but let's still see the big picture, uh, the armed forces of the russian federation have a lot of decisive role at the front regular armament to the regular armed forces, of course, therefore it is very important. in my opinion, firstly, e. to strengthen the authority of the armed forces of trust in the armed forces and expect from them, uh, changes directly on the ground at the front. this is what it probably was would be the best response to uh, the events going on. okay, so here's your role, uh, in the senate
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of the federal assembly. uh, you expect that there will be some new legislation with uh connected with the consequences of what happened a few days ago, but quite, perhaps more than expected, there are now conversations. by the way, they have been going to say for a long time, and even to me, as an ordinary person, let's say so to the legislator, it's not quite clear why they go, but they don't take steps. everything, because we, in fact, have a private military campaign. so far we have no outside the law laws governing this area. this is the first task facing legislators. well , you and i perfectly understand that this is a question that goes beyond the scope of a purely private, uh, agenda item about these same campaigns. eh, this is a question, in principle, the law. there is a lot of disciplinary support for a special military operation , including those relating to e, laws are being adopted
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, various normative acts regulating the social aspects of what is happening. we see that more needs to be done here. eh, and most importantly quicker. thank you quran i am now addressing you not as just an encyclopedic educated person. but specifically a film director, and you know very well that there is reality, and there is people's idea of reality; there is not only their opinion, but their mood. and i, on the one hand , am very impressed, but from the courage of the russians, because when you think about it, they said that russia is opposed. in a sense, this is, in general, larger in scale than that of napoleon and hitler, and the fact that russia
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opposes the fact that not only the authorities, not only the armed forces, but also the people. it stands proudly, like a wall - it's very impressive, but on the other hand. we all know from experience that at some point people get tired of such a challenge, that people want to see the light at the end of the tunnel, which sometimes. well, in general, it's not so easy to show yet. uh, you failed to achieve something quite obvious on the battlefield that we can do in this area in the field of ideology. and if you want strength of mind, and the mood of the people, what could you do because it is really very important.
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education is urgently changed urgently this is of great importance education you understand the soviet union in my opinion, i won the war really a terrible blow from this i survived, because after all , this is the generation that is, to which my father belonged, this was the generation brought up already. in soviet times, this is this generation of bondarev, these licenses. my father was a 24-year-old lieutenant. this is the generation. here. uh, he drowned, in principle, turned the tide of the war on one the sides have already educated a generation, because as they say, they have already been through, but on the other hand they have been brought up. uh, in the education system that prepared them to defend their homeland. and i think this is very important, because the education system in russia , we say, so to speak, our people reacted at some genetic level, but our people. in fact, he doesn’t really know anything about
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the civil war in russia, because all the horror of this terrible tragedy of the civil war, about which we all know, i understand for a huge number of our fellow citizens. they don't know anything at all because that's how they were raised. they haven't seen the films. they don't know them and they didn't teach them in school. they do not know what the kronstadt rebellion is. what is the rebellion of sorokin , remember one star is to say the famous muravyov, this is all the horror of the civil war. he passed by. but this is a national memory when you have this charge in you. you understand that we are afraid of this. here our generation has entered into us and we understand that in russia there is nothing not possible in any case. start a civil war, whatever you want. only not this, anything, but not this, because it will be a terrible catastrophe. we ourselves, as they say, will destroy ourselves and the whole world is distinguished therefore, but this must be educated. this
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should be brought up in everything in the cinema. and in this, and , of course, first of all, education, first of all, history textbooks, a story about this is of great importance. here, in principle, look beyond the very short period of soviet people who lived in ukraine there soviet people lived. they were more soviet than in russia. by the way, they were the most soviet people. sorry, the most grated are the most like that. if the political officers were so, they were ukrainians. this and what was done to them during this period, they were completely re- and, i myself observed when i was in ukraine, how was this done? it was purposefully brought up and brought up , you understand, therefore it is very well. well, i want to say one more thing at the moment, maybe you will not agree with me, or maybe, so to speak, polemically? if we're talking about something? well, let's just say, well, hypothetically the positive effect of the rebellion. you know
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, i have this feeling, maybe not now . i don't know if it will show up. but in general, if in the west at least a couple of meanders are left, and i think they have a couple of meanders left, in general i am strong, i thought about the situation. well, wagner would come to power in russia, a nuclear country. and what would happen here, what would happen here, i think that in this sense , some kind of promotion of this idea, we need to throw it under them. although i think that they themselves do not know dmitry, but it seems to me that this is generally logical. so, now they are in emotions and first emotions. it's a pity that it failed, but the second emotion should be at least some people with a head who would say listen, guys. can you imagine what it would be like if all this is a nuclear country with these poseidons and on the head of all this, and even a civil war that would start, it
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can, strange as it may seem, make some kind of shift in the brain, i don’t know, you will agree, you're with me no will it won't be. here i have such an idea came only one small remark. groupings are politically created under the idea and these ideas are put forward sometimes by people who are not associated with this idea. then those groups that are created under the idea, they demolish those people who do not correspond to this idea, and therefore the group turns to this idea . wagner is a deeply nationally oriented group, roughly speaking, officially oriented. i would say radical. and if these people came to power, then the west remembered vladimir vladimirovich putin as the most holy kind person in comparison with those who would have come then, that is, with experience, then they spoke in a completely different way in a different language and boldly assure the daring tasks in
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the strategic nuclear forces were transferred on the third day. after they scattered, they would come to power. or maybe even before it was true. for some reason i think. what if wagner came to power? they would n't hold on to power. i think it might lead. k if you want to the collapse of russia yes , from civil and civil not in russia, and so i thought about the civil war in the united states, which was 861-865, terrible more people died in the war than in the second world war on both fronts, a and b in europe and in the pacific theater so that's 100,000 people died. so, this civil war still ended with a compromise and the integrity of the united states ended because there was not a single state
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that would actively intervene in it on the side of the technicians. imagine how many countries no matter how hard they try to fish in the troubled waters of the russian civil war, so i personally am personally grateful to the president for showing restraint in, uh, 796, i think, a young brigadier general. uh, napoleon bonaparte made himself a national figure during the rebellion of the release rebellion in paris, when it seemed that an armed mob would go and smash everything, and he napoleon, he took an artery and put cannons on the porch of the church. uh, holy roch and hit
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the ceiling. uh, there were many dozens of victims on napoleon became famous and soon became the ruler of france so, i think if someone tried to do something similar in russia especially on a larger scale. it could have the most tragic consequences and so for me reasonable restraint at the moment of a terrible challenge. this is a sign of common sense. and, if you like, moral strength. well , then what is called the elderly we see, it was a big game, we'll meet tomorrow on the air.
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hello this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya na batnikova director writer, today we are discussing dostoevsky's novel the idiot e with director vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva they say that people are divided into those who love tea and coffee, but a dog or a cat and a fat one dostoevsky and here i am, for example, a man of dostoevsky you must be vladimir ivanovich also a man of dostoevsky, right? well, you know, you have to take the liberty to say it, i’m a dostoevsky man. but in a certain sense, it’s true, but i absolutely can’t say that i somehow have a soul for tolstoy , moreover, for a person who didn’t even really love dostoevsky to nabokov. i already feel this very well, even paradoxically, but i’ll say the same nabokov who didn’t like dostoevsky what i didn’t know then, i i loved in advance than i loved dostoevsky dostoevsky later, when you were working on the materials. this is fate i am grateful
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to fate. what she gave me the opportunity to do is not even what to shoot, because to enter this world fyodor mikhailovich i would be an unhappy person. if i'm here now, i can't even imagine. here without here you know it. well, i'll even take a change to say. it ’s somehow already a part of me, of course, for the school curriculum it’s a little, but it’s a little complicated, and therefore i, yes, well, thanks, who doesn’t the great writer knows dostoevsky. dostoevsky what is there to say that, well, in the black crime, the punishment is there and list that something, yes, therefore, moreover by that time. i haven't read much yet. but when it was already started, that then everything just read everything that is here. today we will talk about an idiot, an idiot is a very voluminous novel, and how? it seems to me that it contains the entire matrix. here are russian characters and here are characters characteristic of dostoevsky, and this novel was written in post-reform russia, that is, after the abolition of
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serfdom, and it seems to me, but a new hero was needed and dostoevsky tried to find a method to make a positive hero, because the main character is a prince, myshkin , whom everyone calls an idiot. well, because he has epilepsy and. well, in general, he really just does not comply. uh, he has some rules of decency. eh, the other one. yes , the principle of interaction with people and therefore he is rashly called an idiot and roman is called an idiot. do you think dostoevsky managed to make a positive hero, because it's hard to make a good character. we are definitely, for sure. they will answer this question. i 'll start with a seditious thought that i just had. this is not homemade. here's a wonderful one. of course, who is the main character. they don't do it early. well, prince of the mouse, yes. that's what they thought, for sure. no, there are a lot of characters, it's a mosaic, it's a mosaic, and
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it just highlights the prince. myshkin i would say so, he is a lighting device. it highlights the characters. here i take this book, idiot is very fine and i think lord she i let in nastasya filippov . this is one of the most unthinkably complex paradoxical images in history, literature, culture, in general , this is how difficult it was for nastasya filippovna to let it all in . and what do you think about this character anastasia filipovna, that is, such a heavyweight seems to be. yes, these are not just replicas that need to be said through a dash, yes, and make them your own. and they are preceded by a description. what state is this woman in? and what happens to her after she has something
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said? and you understand that you have no voice, no data, no nerve. they are nothing to realize this plan. well , it's just distribution itself, as if france crushed it, i remember the day of the theater was march, its bulletin board idiot. yes, i saw everything. and he told me, so yuri ivanovich eremin, our director of the moscow council theater, now you need to find a limit. just a human limit. i need you to laugh like that. how are you? well, i never allowed myself in my life, or for example. well that's any quality to reach your personal limit. so he helped me gave this key, that is, the key is at the limit at the limit on his own, and then in general she is a bitch or she is a kind person. i think that no one
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else should by any means, so categorically by no means. it's not this, it's not defined, either or that's the point. it is the elusiveness of absolutely the characters is everything. so i do not exclude at all that even dostoevsky running up the names of the characters. he always treated this as a matter of principle; he looked into the spirit of the holy one. i didn't remember myself. and what is nastya sisi started? yes, it's sunday, thank you actually . aglaya light shine, seth, you understand, barashkova is not accidental, and this is also fyodor mikhailovich, this is an established point of view, which absolutely agrees in any other hands, the works of fyodor mikhailovich dostoevsky have turned, well, brazilian serials there. well, what will not arise, you understand? yeah, that's all, or, uh, some kind of detective.
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oh, and because he himself was talking about this, i read his diary entries. it's either she's got a melodrama, yes, an illegitimate child, or all. this is a slightly obrazelsky serial, but in the hands of the feudois mikhalych it becomes high that he wrote to him like that. it is important for me to hook on reading or to interest him, and then already yes, this is just a novel for us. it's something incredible. i can't. i just stop thinking about how it is, well, they wrote about it, and even modern critics wrote about it, what is it? the variety of characters is so damn good. well, everything, paradoxical laughter. here they remembered. yes, they laugh. there's 10 times on every page they're from time to time they start laughing, then all in chorus, then nastasya and the fullness of the aglaya begin. do you understand this? yes what is sometimes? it would seem perfect? yes , you don’t know, yes, yes, and chatting them back and forth. so
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i just wanted to say that i was just re-reading it, and i had the feeling that they all act these characters in a state of altered consciousness. they experience extremes all the time. that's how catherine said the extreme limit of emotion. and it really could be a brazilian series. if it wasn't. it's somehow mysteriously missing. so exactly psychology and characters. if it were not for such incredibly difficult people behind this, everything complicated there, although it hurts, but the boy kolya even it would seem to be certainly a minor character. and the way it is today is just hippolyta from how to come up with it all. how is that in the head? how it is, i don't know. here is fedor mikhailovich, therefore fedorovich because he is human nature and in particular in the novel you do. here i am, here i hear it. you know how to the bottom gave. no one can go further with him ivanovich
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but uh, i, for example, have a tendency guess to dostoevsky. if, for example, i meet a person somehow. i don't understand his motivation. this is easier for me to find. here is some character from dostoevsky to find the key of a person. that is, i understand, yeah. this is a leg with a nut, this is parfyon rogozhin . yeah, this is probably prince myshkin. that is , i have. eh, and it seems to me that there is no other such thing to write or which would be, but it is an encyclopedia. these are precisely the psychology of russian characters created, do you know, right? before their deaths, they opened. uh, opened the bible and a string. read it from above i predicted my death very curiously, because that's how it is vladimir ivanovich well, these scenes, here in an idiot, i read there 15 to 10 characters that converge in one scene, for example, when nastasya filippovna throws money there. yes to fire. it's very difficult there. everything is psychologically connected.
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yes, there is a ganechka who is looking at this money there, let's drag e money from the fire and perfume rogozhin who is waiting to go with him, or withdraw the money that yes paid for the night. here, uh, right there is prince myshkin, who offers her his hand hearts. her seducers are right there, yes, to whom , in theory, he is sitting, he appreciates that a colorful man is a woman. look, he is a general just to carry here to educate. he kind of gave birth to it. yes, yes, they say, that's all. those people are unimaginable. here's how the director ru, how can this be filmed at all, because uh, while one person is talking. yes, there for half an hour it is not clear what others are doing. and how do you choose an editing room, what is more important is the character's reaction to what someone says or what? someone says some words. how do you know it uh such a question is still too general, it is meant every time. um, well, i filmed something
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because i filmed it. i read, i see everyone's eye. i know, i'll bring you quite bears. mikhalych, these are wonderful situations that are not lucky. yes, and there is a very analogue and we see nikulin so yes, but basically this is all that the events did, almost passed, damn it, did nothing there. that's why i would always be behind the eyes of the eyes. no, it can, it's wives there are so many characters. it's crazy. can these scenes in all you try present mise-en-cene. she says mikhailovich sat down at a round table and so on, probably, it is clear that there are some signs of mesocynism. well, anyway, it's something , it's something, it's not this incredible boiling, that's the passions and in general to bring these ruts. how to transfer it, everyone has their own here in the theater. here we are for each too difficult ekaterina i also can’t imagine how
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it’s all on the same stage, in general, in terms of. well , probably, probably, eyes whose eyes we will now show in this regard. well, first of all, for this talented person. can't be. sorry , i need to understand a little. i want to do something, and then you need to come up with something, because, well, yes, in the theater we see everyone at the same time. and it only seems, it seems that it is easier, in fact, everything is more complicated plus. now we have already invented ways when we change even in the theater and so on. yes business not in it to answer unambiguously, on this question it is impossible. you have found the key. i think our, uh, and theatrical film attempt. yeah, uh recreate it all in the first place encourage the reader to read the novel. you can relax on your vacation at the dacha, you can relax in the mountain, the action raffles off 50 travels in russia, a super prize from 100 million
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full stop writer director is visiting me director vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva, we are discussing dostoevsky's novel idiot and you can, uh , ekaterina ask, that's how you see the relationship between filippovna and prince myshkin, well, for the first time myshkin saw a portrait and he disappeared to see his eyes. he said in those eyes of suffering a lot everyone laughed raised him to death, but he alone saw in her. here is the lamb of god yes lamb to you. victim if you want an innocent, because who is this nastya girl burned down and less than her father, her mother was burned alive, father. sang died, sister, whoopee. uh, died, that is, this is an orphan that a wealthy landowner totsky took away and at the age of 13 noticed in her that he would become a rose and placed in the rooms gracefully cleaned and in general brought up and hired her governess only
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teachers, but they taught her not only french yes, maybe nabokov was offended because of this . you prepared me for debauchery. and i think that since childhood she bit off this physiology disgusting abomination. i think that she did not return to this at all to physiology. i didn’t find anywhere in the novel her strong physical connection with any of these e men who talk about it all the time, she already behaves like that and presents herself and behaves like that, but was it really me, by the way, this too interested. but i really followed it between the lines between the letters diagonally, i didn’t find something. found a phrase. uh, rogozhin arranged orgies at the station. santa is there
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stronger. what is an orgy is not in our understanding, so here's how to say it, it was understood by death. unless she knows death. maybe, maybe, maybe we can, well, at least she has clothes scattered there , that is, she is naked, or because she mocks us so much on the road. why does it seem to me that she ended up with him, she herself did not sit down to take a knife . she hmm wanted to say to herself through him and his hands. i think so. here, but now we will return to the relationship with myshkin. why doesn't she marry mouse is impossible internal. i wonder what is the key of catherine as she explains it to herself, she tried to think somehow high. afraid to destroy him. yes, she considers herself a fallen woman, she does not want a lot of men very much, but when she saw christ, she suddenly
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understood what love is? and when you are ready to give your life for another, it is not carnal. uh, yes absolutely and it seems to me that this is the feeling that i was not familiar with. and suddenly, but this nature yes of this feeling, that is, a spiritual connection is not intimacy. here, yes, but of course, the feeling of understanding, who is she and the unwillingness to defame and desecrate and the inability to be around. i would be here more, let's say, if you are a lawyer, and i would like to act as a prosecutor, because here the character is also agla, and boarding houses, which are a rival. nastya filippovna for the prince. they are here, like a fool idiots for him, two such women hooked. yes two beauties one, so to speak, fallen another noble. here they are because of him, in the end they go there
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in one scene and after that anastasia filippovna on the one hand she wants he married the head, so to speak, he was happy, on the other hand. in the end, she does not let him go and shows aglaya, right before her eyes. she says he is mine, and now you will see that i will tell him that he will be at my feet, and he will be. this is how it happens myshkin it seems to me quite unexpectedly. even for the reader chooses nastasya filippovna stays with her. i'm head nine of these hesitation runs away and forever she no longer sees myshkin, that is, but it turns out that nastya filippovna has selfish motives. that is, it is not that she is not a saint at all; she has a sense of ownership and torments rogozhin; she seems to me sensually with pleasure, as she was tormented once so she torments all men. mogla tells her in this scene. she
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says, if you would like, it seems to me whether this is real. in fact, i was offended not by the relationship with the prince, so to speak, she was offended, because she was ogla and said, if you wanted to be an honest woman, you would go to the laundress. after all, we can say that aglaya is right, that is, nastasya filippovna did not go to the laundress. she really walked with rogozhin, yes, and in general she presented, so to speak, her tragedy all the time very prominently, showing everyone that she lived a bad life. in general luxury is quite safe. she is not trained, she, dear, is a thing that was used from this scenario of an expensive thing when i use it great mighty russians. yes, you know the expression everyone knows it, i guess i'm so you i love. what a choke is ready. yes, ready to kill would kill, yes. and it seems, only a figure of speech, in fact, there is content here, but i have so many sayings in russian that cannot be translated at all and
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it’s even impossible to imagine in another, even in a cultural space, go there, i don’t know where it will bring. well, i don't know what you understand, yes, you know, paul's question is the epistle to rhythm. the first is a big part about love. i don’t know by heart, but we are love, well, we more or less imagine what you mean, in general, this is love. i have one more thing i will say to attract the reader to this novel. let's attract today, if you read his letters carefully, nastasya filippovna, as glai. i will tell you. this is in general for today. then, probably, people did not think about it, as he writes. she still needs such words and there to live for how long and somehow uniquely, and how piercingly it seemed that dostoevsky fired all these minor characters there. uh,
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kolya is an ivory of some kind of swan, in this general an orivolgin. there are many of them, he gives them some interesting monologues all the time, but i always thought that it was because dostoevsky played. he needed money. at the time, publishers paid by word count. all the time it seemed to me that all these superfluous waterings had nothing to do with this main intrigue. i do not exclude purely theoretically that he stretched the volume. yes? yes, here, it seems to me, the volume and nothing in it, if it is done like fedor mikhailovich you, please, this is a velka. well, but fyodor mikhailovich has , uh, most of it, he starts such a retreat. he has many such copyrights, as if digressions says. yes, we, of course, attract writers, attract non-traditional characters with something original appearance tips. and what to do with and what to do with personality radians and then fedor mikhailovich begins his position on
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ordinary people. and as they are, uh, you can’t shoot boringly. it's boring, you know. and what about the ordinary ones? then he gives examples, they he has. ganya, his tragedy is in our dinar, but he does not want to be ordinary, and you tell him this. so you understand the nonentity, he is a gunny, he says how you were dead, who are you pretending to be, and there are a lot of characters and sister ghani. she is kazakh. and as she discovered, yes, and he begins when fyodor mikhailovich is a writer. he starts a dictionary. for example, he says he is a barbarian. and how she will then leave, how she is intertwined throughout dostoevsky’s life it seems to me that there are no ordinary personalities , it’s just what he gets, just called, he just says that and what to do with the original, you know, and
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he turns them extraordinary, and this is his genius. you understand here. after all, jesus is plays the environment, generally speaking, jesus - it's impossible not to play anything at all. jesus can be done only here, yes, it can be done in a conditional work like this , yes, in the opera you can do jesus christ - superstar by the way, well, also your own, yes, there they are, yes, yes, yes, they did some kind of there, but, in principle, it plays everything the environment does. here is either a child or mary magdalene who or this, well, his environment. that's the problem. it is for the whole world, therefore, and somehow why it is quite difficult, that is, to infect. well, a whole theme, alben, here are christian motives. you go? yes of course, this is the picture. yes, he himself is there already a lot of his
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personal all these stories these minutes about the death of the conversation. why stand up? so don't tell guillotis about death. don't say nothing. here, and before that , he told them to them and told how he was on the guillotine - it’s already like a bag and katya. he includes so many stories of his life there don quixote and a note hides volumes of don quixote in his eye, a poor poem. there are so many personal plus to everything. this is what mikhalchik was never shy about, including the player wrote to earn. yes, we needed money all the time, but at the same time, it's on such a level , so personal, so deep. he intimates his experiences. then he invests that, in principle, it ceases to be important, really. you know quite a lot of geniuses, and including michelangelo who worked
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so that yes, you know ivangay, not ashamed, the motivation of even the great artist, the brilliant director bergman, he has an amazing an interview with him that ends with saying, you know, don't. here are these lofty words. this is herman, one of his last interviews. actually, we are doing. what a carpenter does, who makes a chair, a shoemaker who disappears his own, this is the essence of our launch. how to do stay but in general, everything, you know? yes? no, you know, you're the one running around here. i'm high, you know, dostoevsky drank the first chapter in agony. interesting will not be interesting. what is not enough writes, christmas trees, you have to write. he is the same as with the region returned from germany ran out. money.
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it is impossible to write, if there were money. this podcast is a must read. i am an online batnikova director writer, i have a director as a guest. vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva are people who worked a lot with dostoevsky's material and today we are discussing one of dostoevsky's best novels idiot by the way, how does the public react? does the public like the real filippopova? well, i'm generally interested in knowing this too. well, you are generally problematic yes, the reaction of the hall is now the modern world, and generally a woman in the modern world. and perhaps many even difficult to understand. and what is it bad to get a job with a rich man from the age of 13? well, an elderly person to live to swim, then shampa. is that bad? its cool. yes, it's cool. this stain cannot suffer from this, which means that it can wash away the souls, and this broke her.
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