this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya napadnikova, director, writer, my guest is the director. vladimir khotinenko and actress yekaterina guseva are people who worked a lot with dostoevsky's material and today we are discussing one of dostoevsky's best novels idiot by the way, how does the public react does the public like the real philip ? well, i'm generally interested in knowing this too. not well , you are generally problematic yes, the reaction of the hall is now the modern world. in general, a woman in the modern world. eh, probably even many difficult to understand. and what is it bad to get a job with a rich man from the age of 13? well, an elderly person to live to swim, then shampa. is that bad? it's cool. yes, it's cool. this stain itself cannot suffer from this. so, to wash off the souls of herself, and this broke her. yes and now she is broken and takes revenge. is it that's the

main thing to bring to the modern, true, interesting women's girls today around sex before marriage. now it's just not a problem at all and it's really impossible even to explain to people, but what's the problem? well there think before marriage, lived with some rich man. it's really cool, the audience loves it. nastya philippe how she reacts to the scene with money she has fun. well, that's how he plays people, nastasya filippovna cruel with men scoffs. unfortunately, everyone perceives 100,000 as 100,000. and that's several million. you see, those 100,000 are against our thousands. well, she has money for a separate issue. by the way, yes, he was one of the first to write. forgive me to do, of course, what money he has it. well, i 'm not talking already, and he has a hard topic of money he has one like that. this is one of the key, what makes money in this world better than fedor mikhailovich, few people did it,

so throw the fireplace. it seems to me that through money the characters of the characters are determined. here is how myshkin relates to money. yes, he distributes a peacock to some fictional son. that is, as he says. i know that you are not really the son of those who fell, but i will still give you 10,000, if only you will calm down. yes, there is nastasya filippovna who knows the value of money for a long time at the same time and use uh, any person wondered question. yes, he seems, uh, indifferent to money. he got an inheritance, you know? why didn't he refuse? here are two women vladimir ivanovich leave him. no one will accept anyone without money without money. yes, yes. it’s about you, and moreover, it’s not the only glow you have every time. is it that no heroine? yes, tell me, please, how you saw a pear, like a real pear to philip. in general

, dostoevsky's favorite female psycho-psychotype is a holy sinner. that's how it is for a woman, because it is very harmoniously combined. yes, this is dualism. these swings, this apollinaris pendulum, after all. in his life, this is the polynarium of apollinaria suslova, his beloved. yes, the femme fatale of his life. she was such a vladimir ivanovich, well, in general, in general. yes, he literally writes, damn it. we have to go burns out. we put on where you need a person on her apollinary wore dark glasses, just dark glasses, you know, a haircut for the day, dark glasses, and she is already a nihilist. she's already everything. that 's all. this is mikhalych writing. uh, idiot, but it's this that haunted all my life, then yes, this is a woman who changes her faces correctly. it has one side, there is another, and it exists between them and these manifestations are polar. well, like

marmalade in sonechka. it would seem, yes, this is probably the most striking example, but they are in every heroine of dostoevsky just such women, you worried attracted his attention, you know? we can formulate here, however we want to formulate. why is she like this? i think the answer is no, in fact, what to do? no, that's why music is the greatest of couscous. you understand here these site some kind of musical theme, for example, yes, here is nastasya filippovna there or someone’s music, she doesn’t articulate, she lets up feelings. but our nature. and why the spirit, i now think this is such our national nonsense. there is such a true sign of a fool, and it is in all of them in these in all persons. it is all dostoevsky's insomnia like that, but i have a theory that our muzzle flows from our territory, this vast space. understand? here is another plus.

this is another plus some kind of capacitor. this is a battery, because bogatyrs are a piece of land. he lost this world, his strength is gone, or that's all for him, you know, this is a battery. this is absolutely convinced. this is no metaphysics. this is physics and this is the battery of us and we are sausages, you know, we are not all capable of coping with this. so dostoevsky has this , an idiot - well, this is a direct or illustration of this. here you go. you say that music is the greatest of all artificial. yes, and that literature is impossible, but to transfer it to the screen, right? you, as a director, have, uh, a tool that no other art has, and that is the human face. impossible convey the human face of his facial expressions. here everyone has their own director in each. there is some kind of my method of work, but i can't torture katya to speak. you know, look at me now. like this, or in the place of stanislavsky, run through

, recycle, fall out in this, and so on . i say, look at her there or i can't say, i'm not playing anything. it's not just a face that i sculpt. i have to convey my ideas. it should be clear to katya and sow. this is a seed that will germinate. they're just there for something. although if director who is successful, like this model. and it seems to me, happy is the one who is not so. if the primary source was a book, you understand, then i have my own and myshkin is mine to me, if the primary source is a book, because it is so strong and no pupkin tyutkin ivanov petrov sidorova e will convince me, because i have my own these characters revived who live inside me. that's what literature is, and it's very difficult to break through brilliant film adaptations by staging through my vision the feeling of these heroes. and by the way, i heard from some

men, that it was the reading of dostoevsky that really broke their relationship with women, that is, when they saw these female characters, after reading them. so to speak, female nature, something was understood that it was not necessary to understand, and since then everything has gone wrong, it's amazing. it can be a separate story. well, the truth is that dostoevsky's woman is very unusual. they are truthful, but at the same time they are all very strange . the fact is that in general, it’s true that there is no forgiveness for banality, it’s true that dostoevsky’s art is everything and critics wrote about it. they wrote that it's not that they are not waiting, it seems that everything is everything, but this is not life. it absolutely cannot be like this in life, and in this sense , fyodor mikhailovich has me. or maybe, especially in an idiot, this is a fictional world. this is the art world. you understand

these female characters in the artistic world, and they turn out to be just an interesting world. that is, these characters nastasya filippovna and ogla does not work. they changed the face of world art in general. we can say so. don't know. i'm generally far from thinking. you may not agree with me that art influences reality. e there is no confirmation of this no art. it is worth it in order to strengthen a person, in the sense of the universe. here is my firm point of view, and everything else about the influence of the specific. well, maybe somewhere we will understand something for someone, but it affects everyone on everyone. no. here is such a paradox and what do you think, an idiot, can give something to the modern reader. well, look, either we are uh derogatory about readers, because you and i say that we are bastard. i'm delighted. i am delighted too and many have read delighted. and that means the rest of the spirits, or what? i

generally like to read. this, of course, is not easy. reading and of course, well, yes, it's not just reading. e, although er, for example, for the third time it is not difficult. well, you are still a man of dostoevsky vladimir ivanovich well, okay, i can firmly say. you know, uh do you have a handbook to take? yes , yes i am today, today, here i have, well, one. well, tell me, well, it’s all the same , yes, you say no, it’s difficult, you can’t name a book, or there isn’t one writer, dostoevsky, i will not think about it. i know, i can even answer vulgarly and reading it gives me pleasure. i'm wondering how this could be done. well, how can you write it? just just now or it tells him to get away so i don't see you, but never in a few lines. she says, okay, they're taking nothing. i'm like these here are all

the changes that boiling is. that's how i don't know, come on it causes. i just absolutely. delight katya is also a person all the time. i remember my first reading novel, and at school i, in my opinion, limited myself to, uh, crime punishment and, in short, something like that in the reduction of other works. here, and thanks to the role, i specifically already re-read hmm. i remember israelis 14-30. i then sat for a week, which means i was restoring my skin, because i burned out all but i was cold. hmm, that was the scene. i remember when the mouse of switzerland rides on a train with a rogozhin from that's just opening yes, yes, yes, yes, it's chill, this thin, light raincoat of his. here it is this chilliness. here it shakes a little. he doesn't know where hands hide the mitten. no knot and i was

cold. i remember that i was cold. i was looking for a way to hide from her. he says stop, wait, 14:30. i'm on the beach, yes, plus 39. well, he even beats physiology. elementary, just like that, very simply good. thank you very much for the conversation. i was very interested. this was a podcast a must read. i'm the main thing, the bath you say everything is a writer. and we discussed the idiot dostoevsky in the sense it sounds yes , dostoevsky's novel the idiot with director vladimir khoyenko and actress ekaterina guseva hello, i'm larisa guzeeva, this is a podcast

of the letter e, today we will talk with leonid yarmolnik about the people's artist, alexander abdulov, who turned 70 on may 29. laziness despite what we call a podcast of letters. today we will somehow manage without these very songs and without e sasha's book, because there is something to talk about anyway, we met about a week ago, and you told me so bitterly, and in my company, except for me, there is no no one left. oleg left, sasha and one. but here i am, for example, i remember your trinity always stood out from everyone at film festivals, for example, well, you somehow lived and existed completely separately, there was a feeling that you were really rich and famous, you were beautiful, you were somehow very fashionable while being relaxed. natural but unattainable, like you in this

trinity in the hotel, kovachenkovskiy and sasha, how it all fit together, but mostly it depended on sasha, because not a day without a line. if we have already arrived, we are a great gift. this means a good festival, or some kind of good meeting. we were always the main ones, but the main thing for us is always sasha, if everyone goes to a restaurant, then we went to the best restaurant. and it did not depend at all on how much money we had in our pocket, because this issue was decided later, for example, the commission of a boss. and i think that there are still living witnesses, despite the fact that many years have passed. we always had an old wto restaurant on tverskaya here on the corner. yes, you know everything, so sasha and i went there, almost every day. and if it's not a performance, then it's early if after the performance, after the performance, the restaurant closed at about 12:00 at night, and we went there, we have independents. money or not? and there were cases when sasha and i

went to creative meetings, like you, you know, to earn money around the country. so we were returning, and when we landed in moscow, the first place we went to, we went to the wto restaurant to give about 150-200 rubles. for those times. this is gigantic , this is gigantic money, and we could not pay for a month and sasha was so loved and treated me with sympathy, but sasha was already a superstar. and i 'm like, in short, don't forget don quixote and sancho, you're forgetting that sasha was a handsome woman's favorite. i was a character artist. what we stood for today loved, well, who love such such. yes, you don’t need to be different, you love each other, what did you answer me, of course. oh well, i don't even know, i went to your podcast program. oh, and i understand that you and i can talk about everything, what can we talk about, but sashkin's birthday is

as a reminder of what was the best in our lives, you can not talk outside of friends in not your company. you were familiar with the institutes, studied at different courses, but lived in a hostel at the same time, and your friendship began just then, but i can tell you that always, when one of our dear colleagues, no, does not get up at they immediately the next day there are a lot of close friends. so it was the first with vysotsky. i generally fell silent, uh, everyone fell silent and there were thousands the same way, and when sasha left, there immediately appeared such a number of friends that i have never i saw and did not know, although i sasha e, well, in short, it turned out that the longest time you understand something, but in fact, when you thought with close friends, really. i knew sasha for the longest time before everyone else

in 1972. he was in his second year, go was, and i was in the first year of the shchukin postul, we lived at trifonovka, 45b, and such a friendship began that had nothing to do with creativity. here we loved a beautiful life. i had a tape recorder in my room. i have already lived for six sasha on another floor, and basically it was two lessons. or sasha met a new girl and came to me for a tape recorder, not even to my classmate sasha deryugin. that's when the whole process took place e to the music of jesus christ super region. sasha and i created. god knows that sasha was always the initiator. i remember as a chechen studio. kabardinskaya fought, uh, and you know, they clashed because of what, because sasha for some reason decided that at 2:00 am, and on the trifonovka, these corridors were 70 meters, here in the corridors and doors it was yes,

yes, and uh, sasha for some reason took and bought in detsky mir, e.g. skittles, but the skittles were absolutely plastic, you know, so noisy hard, and we put the skittles by one window at the end of the corridor. and ourselves it's at 2:00 at night, and we played. in the kegg. you can't imagine what a roar and thunder it was, otherwise, uh, they came out, in my opinion, a chechen studio, and not in gitis, in my opinion, they studied. stalin to run into us. so sasha tried to sort things out with them. they were already on the brink of taking. uh weapons and so on and so forth. and then it came out. uh, the studio of the kabardian shchukin school, which me adored and in general, uh, we continued to play for another 2 hours. and they had negotiations. yes, wall to wall. as for money. do you know how much money we had? when were we students? we basically all the hostel and gitis, and washed bottles of champagne , scraped off this foil, and next. we had

a collection point for glass containers, and sasha and i with four suitcases. went handed over there we already knew we did not stand in line. we were taken separately, we received, as a rule, there 8-10 rubles. there was a lot of money for this. naturally in the evening. uh, it was a holiday 8 years beautiful to live. it's innate, it's not exactly acquired. that is, you were already such uh, well, i think i, too, like others did not know, never generous beautiful. uh, hospitable broads. here you were straight stars. now i’m shooting with young people, and they all live very well, no one smokes, no one drinks, and everyone comes with their jars, closes in their actors. eh, and that's it, that's probably good. in connection with this, i want to tell you, because sasha, uh, nature gave such a face and such a figure, and i have a feeling that he was killing his

beauty. so he did everything to ensure that this beauty quickly disappeared from him. i can say no, because sasha has always been beautiful in recent days. and when he first started the lists did not include the first performance. this was back in the time of his friend. yes, physical beauty, i say, he is you. eh, if she speaks tough, sasha, of course, incredibly, talentedly destroys herself. because she had no concept of 24 hours a day. it was 48 hours and all these 48 hours. he was on his feet and he had enough time and energy for everything, he could act all day in the evening to play a play, and then until 5:00 in the morning we could , uh, receive some guests to sashka. royal performances for 3 1/2 days there from the society of book lovers and social studies. yes, it was more profitable from these organizations, and we

had 31 performances in 3.5 days. no one even from our era, no matter how colleagues understands how it is physically. perhaps it. we just worked , it's called a shuttle, that is, it began it ended at 7:00 am. it's at 12 o'clock at night. sasha i started at one point, and i started at another point at 7:00 in the morning, then we went. fragment, uh, sasha showed my fragment, and i represent sasha presented his fragment during these 10 minutes, and the car was transported and after the fragment, sasha already left and i went out to another site and 30 e one performance. and it so happened that at the same time andrei mironov derzhavin and shirvindt were sitting there for a week and flying. back we are on the same plane with the same ones with the same task, then they, too, they also had creative meetings. and when we were already flying back,

there was already such a plane that began to fly, and at eighty-six and sasha had already arrived , he was already registered on the ladders. everything was closed, only the commander stands at the first ladder and it is thinner, and sasha abdulov, you know why you don’t fly away? yes, you were delayed. i was still on stage at that time. so you know me directly, how in the detective they brought me grass and after take-off , andryusha mironov comes to us from the business class 5 minutes later. i ask. well, how are you? what? well, sasha's performance was saying, so what, how old were you thirty-one? and how many of you are saying here, the dialogue ended for 3 days. so, uh, andrey left in 5 minutes

, shirvindt lenka arrives . show money. and we open two types, backpack. so here we are, between the legs we open. so here it is, and there are dozens of quarters, two bags of money, then, uh. now we can talk about it. we always know about it. well, i don't know those. details still a wonderful quality sasha had. and when we went somewhere, the company always grew, that is, we went together to restaurants, but it turned out that we were already sitting at the table with us 15 people . sasha never let anyone get a wallet , never in my life, you can’t say sasha understood that he was so omnivorous and accessible to everyone. uh, your status, who is he and i don’t think that if someone saw that a company had gathered and there were two people of abdulov’s yarmolnik, they could easily go to you for table. everything depended. uh, it depended, that's the moment when someone wants to join us after seeing, uh, relatively speaking

abdulov then, it depended on how many glasses. maybe they drank with sasha, if we drank three or four glasses, then he was ready to make friends with a person. but, if this person was not worth it for sasha to communicate with him, then after 15 minutes the person was sent. i'm colonel volkov let's go why did the circumstances of martin schultz's death mean that she accidentally got into an accident? they built it, they killed it. close grinko what are you from me want to intimidate will threaten the operational alias returned?

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at the ideal price, the account goes for seconds. issue a tinkoff car loan for both a new and a used tinkoff car, he is the only one. sasha was very picky, but he was very communicative and lively, and he never was. here in that bad sense, a star , which is where you are, yes, yes, he always was, he knew the price, but he never in this sense was unique in general more than all the brand control. zakharov adored sashka sashka was like a theater talisman, despite the fact that this theater had an incredible number of stars of such first magnitude, ions and pelsars, yankov harnesses, and all these wonderful things are the link, but sasha was his favorite. he was like a son and those performances where there was a role for sasha. and this theater was doomed to success. tell me about munchausen who or who or a hmm do you

want me to tell a secret? yes, the fact is that from the fact that we were friends for many years, adored each other with sasha, not only was mine, firstly, he is my godfather sasha my daughter and, uh, when there were tests for the munhouse, but he also took care of my creative biography. it was 78 years old. and there were samples for this role of theophiles. i then many years later. i found out what it turns out to be. i was not the only candidate for the role of theophile. here, and the fact that i played theophilus. this is not only because that mark anatolyevich decided that the theophilus should be with such a face, so abnormal. and i think mostly. it was sasha abdulov who convinced mark anatolyevich zakharov that a theophilus in our country can play if a little introduction is at the tip? the first time i saw you on the screen was in a detective film, and

i didn’t remember anyone but you when you sat on our motorcycle. and it was written on your face that you are a very talented person. you were beautiful. and you are very talented. look, listen to you herman stripped off. well, uh, in his greatest film ever. no, what i would say today is lariska, today we are talking about massage, uh, impossible. wait wait, if you were near, wait yes, 70 years will be in nine months. i've been younger all my life. i hope when we talk about me better, if i have it in connection with sasha , it’s very difficult for me to imagine everything. and if sasha was friends with unlucky and not talented people, you understand, both yankovsky and you had nothing to share, so you had a full-fledged friendship, even if someone was at work, but oh someone could put in a word, then it wasn’t either. so you know, m-m margan. well, well, just invite me to do it for you, that is

, even here you are from what sasha recommended. it was a huge plus for myself and joy. well, naturally, when we were filming munchausen. and we went to germany, er, back then in the gdr. but since there were tiny daily allowances then, of course, i don’t even remember anything there. now how much, well, some pennies they get. and quick-witted vova dolinsky he said that we would get out of the situation. in short, we brought uh, a huge jar of, uh, black caviar. here, and he was sure that we are in the hotel where we will live, we will give it to the owner. he is there, by the way, the brand of the bundesmark, and we will have a lot. we threw it all away. no, nothing happened like that. so we choked on this caviar for 2 weeks, because no one bought it from us. and we have never eaten so much caviar in our lives and were terribly amazed, and mikhailovna churikova and oleg said to them, where did you get it, where did you

buy it here. how much does she cost here? well, i also often tell in order to, well , some things, probably the audience. sasha was still scary. sweet tooth he could eat. that's how much sweet will calmly eat. i always say, yes and uh, he could eat, for example, we skip the line in prague cooking it was very much the same. this is prague cake and bird's milk. yes, we are always there without a queue, like everything is relatives, after 5 minutes we were already leaving with cakes. here they came to the rusakovka. here the vein came, put it on the table, and i went. excuse me, go to the toilet. when i'm through 2 minutes returned from the toilet from bird's milk, there was one piece left, and the cake was big and sasha said, i would like you to try it too, so he giggles, and at the same time once. he fell ill, er temperature and i

came to him in the morning. he says, i say, san can, some kind of medicine, says medicine. there would be, and i say, well , what do you want? he says, i so want condensed milk, he adored condensed milk. i say it's not a question. and i already had a zhiguli. i went to one store, the second one did not, the shortage of condensed milk was terrible. here in at some point i realized i went to their test table i bought him condensed milk. only not in such a jar, but one that supplies in the dining room. this is a 3 kg can. the same only hefty, you understand? yes, i bring happy. it was sasha, it was about 12:00 in the afternoon. and we are always this condensed milk. he said that young ar are watching everything. the tists were there, it seems, i took everything correctly. and we, if there was no time to devour, but bought a can of condensed milk two holes, and all three became fat. when did you save yourself at 12:00 brought this bank next time. i

came to him. i would go to work to shoot and come to him at 7:00 pm. how much do you think there was in the jar of condensed milk? imagine, but everything was e everything was a barrel the next day. he's already played the show. how lucky you can imagine, lyon, i'm so jealous of a big child, of course, sasha was amazing. eh, well, god connected you. it's impossible otherwise. that's how to get together, because it's more than friendship. you know how the masculine began. i have already told this story somewhere. uh, when we were students. and when we had free time, we not only unloaded wagons. we also worked part-time at night not at the cemetery. we, too, commanders dug for a week. and we went. why is it always money? well, 35 years old. she says, yes, he says, he

has been working all his life. he says lvovsky, he says, so he will never take a penny from anyone in his life. he says when it was necessary, but she didn’t say that, of course , yes, that he even worked the cemetery, well, this is due to the fact that the actors are not all so childepers, you know in the cemetery, but not so much for money. how much was it? e, some kind of acting interest, in general, what happens in the cemetery, how does farewell to serious people happen in general, and i worked a week for a week, i dug despite the fact that i did it very badly, and there was just a foreman. uh, of us, of our actors, kiselyov was like that and he took me. he knew that i was interested in watching all this, i dug, then i came, i dug, and this was all the navagankovo ​​cemetery. and if you know, the vagankovskaya cemetery, almost everything is on the sand. and when i came i reported that the grave is ready, and professionals were going there. in the meantime, i came and reported. all uh, the sand

has collapsed and again there is no horror. no. the fact is that e it would seem that there was free time. we penetrated the fence through the fence and ran around the production of the hull. probably i was sitting in the film group, the directors were assistants, and we were knocking here. we knocked, the door opened and cheerful such young talented artists are not needed, boys. close the door fools. what yes, and we did it, about every week, and when it got to the point, you already had you to us not needed. but it was so cool, and so funny, and then we kind of hid it, and over the years we have been proud of a century. this is a podcast of letters, we are talking about alexander abdulov, who would have turned 70 on may 29, and my guest is the wonderful leonid yarmolnik . tell me, please, when did the casino appear in your life? sashka was generally a very

gambling person. he loved to play poker. uh, and when did casinos come into existence. it was as if it was almost grief, because he could receive some quite significant fee to go and lose it in a casino, and he changed in character, his mood changed. casino on one side. i loved it very much, on the other hand i was afraid, because he was very angry. and i didn’t always go to the casino with him. i'm not that kind of player. i can also play a little in the casino to play some number of people to calm down. sasha never calmed down and there were times when he lost. he also left somewhere, borrowed money and returned there were cases when he and you. is it true that when he filmed the bremen town musicians in egypt and there was nothing to pay uh actors, well, in general, the group he went to play in the casino, won and, uh, money from the casino. yes , there were indeed some difficulties. i was there and we are not with him. it's

a beautiful legend that i support because it doesn't matter. sasha won at the casino, or got money, but he found the money that was needed in order for him to be both the director and the producer in general , the organizer of everything. look, sash has already begun to experience fate, and directly the most dear of youth he walked along this very verge of life of death, and everything could happen to him much earlier. here. tell stories that do not sound plausible, but it happened, but about the plane, when it could crash, when irina's fan yes, it's terrible. eh, naturally, i found out about it the very next day, but from sasha, what about the plane? it was terrible, because there was an hour when, for example, i thought that sasha was in a plane crash, and he was sitting there. it was

bad, as the weather can be and two tu-134s. well, in st. petersburg, one is the same as the other, and that’s all, and the girls who adored sasha, he was already sitting already sleeping. he is usually on the plane. he switched off immediately. so he sits alone, and everyone is not taken to the landing, because it turns out, uh, a delay. she and i tell him that the next support is minor cons, and he flew to him, like at 10 it was already necessary to enter the frame for intimacy. and now i'm talking about the fact that these 15 minutes decided, it's not that there was no sashkin some kind of star, because one of those planes on which he could fly really suffered. and what a disaster. but when the plane crashed, i told you about it, that i knew that he was flying to st. petersburg . yes. i flew to the shooting and like some hour

was the worst thing in my life, you know, over the years i realized that for uh, you can talk about sasha for a long time about how wonderful he is , unique, inimitable beloved well, in order to understand him, thank god they have a lot of pictures and pictures of wonderful . to be honest, i think that the best sasha's paintings, this painting by mark zakharov, is kill the dragon. it `s naturally. ordinary miracle. this is the same munchausen, look, why women fell in love with sasha, of course, but he was handsome, for which i can never understand why he is in him not in me. but yes, look. well, he's handsome. well sasha was loved. i have a feeling that all this disgustingly vile yellow press fell in love with him, which poisoned him and sasha reacted to it in such a way, but they earned their filthy bread like that, tell me, but was he?