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both got up. so sorry. andrey alexandrovich e. here, for example, e. well, dmitry, of course, he had known him for a long time and the report was being prepared at the center, but i was happy to come and participate in the discussion, i knew these people. and these people took an absolutely normal sober position. here is the logic of this report. what was it? yes, of course. it is necessary, this is brilliant. now, if, of course, they would listen to such politicians in america, we would never have any problems in this report, he says, we must set priorities. yes, of course, valuable moments are very important, but the essential interests are more important and therefore we cannot reach the limit here and there at the same time, then we, in general, run the risk of ruining any relationship that may exist, and therefore, in
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general, rare cases when here such people at this level even later, who received the post of minister of defense. well, unfortunately, there was very little and little that influenced, but all the same, such views are on the american political scene. you can still meet, thank god. and there were centers where this was cultivated. you know, i thought dmitry is a very interesting question. even based on our discussion, a picture emerges , we say that we are not going to influence the elections in the united states in any way and the lord is passive to interfere in them, and yet. we don’t interfere, we don’t do anything, and they accuse us to the fullest , that is, trump, they accuse and accuse us, that is, we didn’t do anything, and we were condemned , they imposed sanctions, trump’s case is being heard. why don't we intervene? that's what we're afraid of, we're afraid of. in my mind go like a chicken to a spellbound line and we're afraid cross a certain certain line with
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us. they do as they please. we, of course, as they want. we still can’t, we haven’t learned, but it seems to me that some of the barriers of this psychological horror before the intervention of american politics must be overcome, and here we will be faced with the fact that we know how and if we have some real idea about the weaknesses of american politics social situation, let's say ethnic arta's economic problems and we know their weak points, and we tried to beat them. and how do we argue, if we need support, for example, the republican candidate. and how to do it? as soon as we set ourselves such a mental experiment, and having crossed this line, this hypnosis, like, that there is no way, because you still have to blame. here we will do nothing and we will get it in full anyway, and trump will get it or any republican. so, maybe, just spit on it, that we are being exposed from this. we are probably not so helpless not so powerless not so
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cowardly not so patient we can try it here as well. it seems to me that we need to understand that they themselves are forcing us to do this and with sanctions, pressure and intervention in our internal policy, which they constantly pursue after that era of realists, about which you are fair with danik, your logic says. we need to go public to record biden's election. but for example, but by the way, i did it, you know, when they came to me. uh, snan after the trump election, they said you were asking you to interfere in the election. i say yes, the camera intervened immediately there people right away. i say we supported and supported hillary clinton off. all the lights go out right there. okay, this is nonsense. i mean, they were only waiting for one thing, as soon as we say something like that. they are simply turned off. alexander, we only did this during the soviet union. yes , because the soviet union had a counter, that is
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, representatives of the communist party and always helped with money and advertising and anything. is it true. there in comfort there were more agents, fbrenativity over me and left and right and small and big us er. hmm, it is necessary not to engage in interference in the elections, but to ask a question and maybe count on the fact that this issue will be in the center of attention of the election campaign of both candidates there. this is what us national interests consist of in our eurasian space, specifically in the post-soviet space, even more specifically in ukraine. it seems to me that we should have a hippocratic principle and those
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of us who are involved in the formation and time capsule of foreign policy should be careful not to offer options that could hinder russia and who could hit those very people whom russia sympathizes with. this is me absolutely. with you , alexander, i am absolutely with you that this element of timidity and some kind of shyness, but somehow, uh, russia will express its preferences. god forbid, god forbid, this is somehow misinterpreted. and god forbid, uh, somehow russia will punish for this. it seems to me that we should part with this, and now, of course, there is a crisis in relations between russia and the collective west. this is a very crisis serious and crisis, does not tell her.
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but as he said well, the former chief of staff of president obama, raph mnl, and he said e, every crisis must be learned to exploit and use it exactly and here is the crisis that russia was not looking for, and which i hope, but will pass and pass to me in a very distant future . that's as long as he is. let's move especially away from this complex of subordination. it was a big game , see you tomorrow on the air. hello this is the easy money podcast, i am its
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host mikhail khanov russia supports the transition to the yuan in foreign trade relations with asia, africa, latin america, these are the words of our president, and already now the share of the yuan in russia's foreign trade settlements is 16%. this figure and not only this one from chinese characters to ordinary human language. nikolay vavilov will help us to translate today hello nikolay e, nikolai e. some ivet, publicist, author of books on chinese power, lived in china for 10 years, and aleksey gordishenin. e, entrepreneur , chairman of a russian chinese investment fund that invests in technology, which is especially important. hello alex let's have a simple question. now. i think that if it is quite simple for the layman in a sense, each of us is also partly in some spheres of the layman , it is quite easy to answer there. you said a figure of about 20%. now the yuan occupies our
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trade turnover, but i think that this figure is based on various estimates. she will grow. and grow rapidly. rather, they have already given a growth forecast. now at 16 20 - this is already with a margin of the year it will be from 30 to 50%, and this seriously, because turnover. right now, we have about 200 billion. in reality, if through third countries, and also count the trade turnover, there, like malaysia, singapore and hong kong, this is what is not officially taken into account, which means customs, like chinese russian turnover, is also $ 220 billion. that is, this is a value that immerses in trade with the european union. that is, china for us is actually becoming the second european union, the second eec, and an important point, in general, in principle, we are talking not only about the de-edalization of its organization, and so on, we are talking about the fact that ionization happens in a better world, that is, they ruled out that your, let's say, savings are in yuan. you can safely spend on holiday resorts in iran such as the introduced united arab emirates which work very closely together. something with china is happy to accept
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yuan in exchange offices, yes, and vietnam and indonesia, and with them all countries and argentina, please , lovers of exotic cuba, where there are a lot of chinese tourists. that is to say, not to mention . yes, not to mention the base issue in europe and open in italy for example, it's easier to do. yes, in some other countries it is more difficult than vitalia, the giant one. this is uh trade economic relations with china in the milanese a whole suburb of the chinese. so there in naples in rome and so on, france is the same, that is, the question is whether it is a replacement for dollars in general, yes, but how good a replacement is. this is the question now alexey chinese market. yes, now is a good entry point for those who yearned for investment. you know , it is very important to understand how investment exists in china at all. the fact is that the chinese they invest in real estate or in investments as soon as real estate inflates a little, and they liberalize the market accordingly. investments and money go there and vice versa and thus a balance occurs,
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because it is important for the chinese economy to ensure that they are available at the moment when they need, and the raw materials and for this happens. well, in my opinion. uh, let's say manual regulation. yes, here are these investment opportunities, respectively, when this is the moment of real estate growth. that's when it means, e the moment of entering the chinese market stock is now such a moment or not. i think it's worth waiting a bit now, but from my point of view. and if you already invest, then you still invest in indices, that is, not in specific stocks, but still either by sector or by general people, because as a rule, nikolay yes, we don’t live in china, we don’t read chinese in the morning newspapers. let's go for our audience. we will remind you that we traditionally do life hacks. let's take a pen and paper and write down that right now, and not the best moments to enter i would add that the chinese market is tightening all over the world. eh, i say, smart words. monetary policy, well it simply means that
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the rate is raised and money is withdrawn from the stock markets in this way. the central bank of the us federal reserve is struggling with inflation, uh, which, well, so far weakly gives in , has ceased to succumb to the efforts of the regulator. but uh, i would say wait, but here our experts also recommend waiting. well, at least the end of the twenty-third year. let's go back to the level a little higher in order to to understand all the same here russian and chinese are brothers for a century. and how will our relations be built further, what is it? yes. this temporary partnership is an alliance. is it friendship against someone or is it long term . here is a relationship, indeed, built on mutual respect and trust. let's start with a figure, and we all read a peppy report that, at the beginning of the twenty-second year, the us trade was about $32 billion, and trade in china grew from a hundred, let's say 40-130 billion.
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from 190 now, and the trade turnover between the united states and china is 750 billion us dollars, all the same, yes , that is, this is a figure that is three times higher than the current seemingly insanely growing trade defense time of our country and immediately into this issue. who really suddenly china has who is their main partner. and who is actually just trying to become one. based on your statistics, i can say that for the first 4 months. our commodity turnover continued its cosmic growth of 40%. we have an increase in trade turnover with china. but chinese american goods, china's exports to the united states fell by as much as 14%. and apparently, this is due to the decline in solvency in the us market and certain barriers. means the tools started this economic actually, and then they added not he again flew up the chinese american fish. and now it is already regardless of the politics of the conjuncture. it falls again, that is, the world enters into faces and everything is certain, and if you look at the history of this turnover of russian chinese. if in the fourteenth year we had, we bought more from china
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and sold less, that is, in fact, we used their foreign exchange reserves, which were received in europe to buy chinese goods, well, oil and gas income. now, on the contrary, we sell more there than we buy. that is, and this, by the way, is an interesting story, for example, with data - this is for a long time. this is a very good relationship for a very long time, we will experience high peaks of the peak of relations , according to my estimates. about 30 years old alexey is still, uh, returning to the stock markets. we found out how interesting the chinese stock market is for russian investors. russian market for the chinese, generally has some interest know, i e investment funds. met in china yes to care for their activities. i noticed that they still do not consider. for now, uh, serious investments. here, uh, the stock market. yes, and those balls are our blue chips. what, you know, is more interesting. e more. deep investing, yes, that is , investing in enterprise ownership. a-a full
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share is not a share package, but let's say institutional investment. yes, that is , when they are bought, well, you can in some work to say, so while china er, is expanding and its enterprises by buying local enterprises and thus the most interesting, of course. this is the auto industry, of course, ours, of course. uh, i think they're interested in the auto industry. uh, no, it 's still, but the production of cars from my point of view of the production of machine tools, and they are interested in buying our sites and completely. i'm thinking of integrating my enterprises, because we have a shortage, and this, and hmm, let's say cars and a equipment and, accordingly, they would like this market can be obtained by organizing. of course, here is the assembly shop in the first place. i think chemical. for them it is extremely interesting, that is, repeatedly. i heard that here is
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our enterprise, which is now supplied in a large share, by the way, speaking specifically to the chinese market. they would be interested in owning these enterprises, of course. we have, uh, protectionist measures to protect our market, and this process is not going as fast as, for example , in african countries, but nonetheless. we have to keep a balance here. we owe our protect interests too. well, let's say that accepting investments cannot spoil the investment climate, but at the same time protect it. we owe our interests, taking into account what you said to alexei, is there any danger that the chinese will really begin to dominate in the field of technology, too. and when we constantly say that we have it on the flag of import substitution. it turns out that instead of developing our own technologies and engaging in import substitution. we just switched imports from one part of the world to another. yes it used to be usa well more eu degree now. this is china, our officials are not afraid of this. here nikolai will also have this question for you. i think this is how we are in the situation. when do we have the opportunity? we have the potential to uh thanks to the geopolitical
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situation, but to improve significantly. uh, inside the internal situation of internal production. whether we take advantage of this or not depends on how our entrepreneurs will work, and how our officials will work, the chinese will give us such a chance to nicolae but, uh, the prime minister recently ended uh, mishustina, his visit to china, of course, he focused on the fact that there is so much building there that is a promising area of ​​investment, and here the issue of reviving our own production of reindustrialization is being carried out, which we face is the issue of personnel and design schools and certain subsidies, there and certain economic zones. and if we act, as in the soviet union during the sales industry, when american engineers actually used machine tools, there were the foundations for our own building of our own industrial, means the bases of the school, then yes, this is probably quite. if not, then well of course, it will happen. as you said, that is, we are simply reorienting from imports, and
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easy money podcast. my guest today is nikolai vavilov whales. vet economist and aleksey gorodishenin digital entrepreneur, returning to your topic with the peak period of our relations for 30 years and , in fact, connecting this with the last trips of kholodnichemskaya, mishustin to china, the question is, and these, to put it mildly, not very pleasant negotiations on the power of siberia 2, which are so important for russia, yes, because the power of siberia works well at full capacity, but this is yakutsk gas. it is very important for us to find a use for the jamaican gas that was flowing. actually in europe and now remained. well, to put it mildly, it’s not destiny and that’s why the power of siberia 2 is so important for russia but the chinese are completely openly lobbying their uh negotiations with uh, turkmenistan, as a supplier yes through uzbekistan, tajikistan, and there, partially through
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kyrgyzstan, absolutely, not embarrassed by the situation that just before our eyes , a conversation is being conducted with two sides. moreover, the visit of mishustin, who directly discussed this topic, who would like to discuss it, was practically not raised. it's that it's a minute-by-minute attempt to bargain for better terms. and this pressure is pressure. this is soft power. this is an attempt to show who is the boss in the house, what is it in the context of what you said that at 39 years old we are practically a strategic key partnerships. well, let's start with the basic things for our viewers, the power of siberia is two - it's not to load containers with boots and this is not being done. simultaneously. this is a mega-project mega-projects. any stream there is always discussed for a long time, remember, and the south north and so on are, well, long big projects they are long discussed, but here it goes straight, playing off with competitors. it's one thing to coordinate investment price figures, it's another thing, he says. well, if you don't want to, we'll go.
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at a difficult moment, that about mikhail vladimirovich, i still don't agree. this is the main task. it means that it is to conduct negotiations successfully and to shake hands and conclude it for yourself or two within the framework of this visit. still not announced. well, it would be good to understand it, it would be good for all of us, uh, to have a salary four times more. so here is the question. what is the first e in turkmenistan it has always been the largest supplier of gases to china , always much earlier than the strength in itself alone. there is a ready-made infrastructure for the supply of so many ministans, i will correct you a little after all while kazakhstan and the latin akimat, where the main actions of the twenty-second year were, but they are ready to overtake turkmenistan overtook. but look, it means the total, uh, gas production and consumption gas i can now get back a little. to make a mistake in the figures is about more than 300 billion cubic meters per year, and turkmenistan supplies china. well, god forbid, there are 30-45 billion cubic meters, you know, there is a place. for
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everyone, this is a gigantic market. it grows there goes, moving away from the coal that used to be used. it's not environmentally friendly that she 'll destroy her air as a matter of fact. and this will be replaced by gas if next year we agree on everything about ourselves, yes, in a year and so on. it doesn't matter sooner or later you will translate it. this is the first moment. yes, firstly, we are not parting. secondly, the ethical point. here you are open negotiations and so on, and the chinese are asking you. now the tap has been turned off in the west. and what about you that you appeared at the border yesterday? you, as strategic partners, treat you badly. you ran to us. here is this ethical moment, do not forget too and when, by the way, advice to our life hacks, i say, someone will work with the chinese. you build a long-term relationship, because the chinese remember everything, how you felt before how you feel now and strategically plan from this in the future, so do not rush to force. two, but i agree my first with the management of gazprom that sooner or later? we got billions. our uh, that means we will bring gas exports, because the strength of siberia is 1, i emphasize. this is very important for the context. she reached shanghai ahead of schedule
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and was supposed to be in the twenty-fifth year. she came at 24, that means 23. oh, and beijing in general, the end of the twenty-second beginning of the twenty-second year. we are already heating. beijing post. our gas is used there. these are huge successes. and most importantly, because it is not in the center. china is a pipe, and it competes with american gas, so here it is generally in the background. we are american gas. for our audience, sails on ships to ports. at the same time, the chinese also overtook japan in terms of gas purchases. that is, it is the world leader here who is generally afraid of the fact that we are a little later we will sell a little earlier and so on from turkey and so on. let's have enough gas, otherwise our audience will leave ours now. thank you very much for such a detailed story. in general , let's write. eh, dear our listeners , viewers and just viewers, do not worry. some temporary, let's say, uh, gag or delay in negotiations, that the size of the chinese market is so large that it allows many players to participate there,
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including the tatars we have forgotten, yes, which is also a gas supplier to yes- yes yes one of the largest suppliers. and uh, let's think about how to prevent a global recession from happening and that china at least does not fall, but develops, well, at some pace and place, in this market. enough for everyone the question is alex in your experience. how difficult or easy is it to negotiate with the chinese as entrepreneurs, how is it built? what is the difference between the negotiation process with chinese businessmen and what we are used to with europeans. you know the theme of negotiations, it is very multifaceted. i spent hundreds of hours with the chinese in real life negotiations, and did not last even 8-10 or 12 hours of negotiations. nikolai correctly said that they require, first of all, a long-term attitude to these relations. yes, that is, for am and look for a minute short-term benefit, because the chinese do not accept this. let's say they have. so their mentality of understanding this is different from ours. moreover, it must
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be said that, well, how many we are 30 there are 35 years old. we have a market economy. yes how many years e in china the idea of ​​business was formed and when do you start about it to think about it, you understand that how long it is 5,000 years and in the negotiations between russian and chinese entrepreneurs there is a relationship, in some way, an older and a younger brother. and, uh, they often impose on us , let's say so, but such a model that partners should be equal. and in the chinese mentality there is an understanding that there is a younger brother who has become, that is, it does not happen. yes, they are very clearly lined up in every relationship. and they may differ. and now we are brother. yes, we are the younger brother of the russian businessman, younger brother, but this is very important. this does not mean that at the expense of us, and china can do something in no case, but because the relationship between the younger and older brother is, among other things, the relationship of care and mutual love, so here attitude is very important, and relationships
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come first of all and mutual understanding. and this means you need to understand the chinese mentality nikolai excuse the question. straightaway. do you agree with this theory that we are currently negotiating a little brother for china as a big brother, but there is nonetheless respect for your brother is also the fact that there is respect for our position, i absolutely agree, but i still would have left, this is such a rather dangerous rhetoric. who is the younger who who is the older brother? a? well, imagine that now china will enter into close conflicts with the united states and the only oil supplier, and china is 75% envy of imports, which means oil abroad, and the only supplier of the overland oil corridor is in russia, and if russia turns off the screen and oil, then there is an economy that barbie will be sanctioned in due time japan in the forty-first year of the oil, she simply won’t pull the question here, who is older than who was compensated for this by sea by sea, and sea lanes on sea lanes
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mean the united states navy , which will have already shown that they are capable of leading the americans to these energy terrorism. and this is true. so it was, by the way, a signal. the chinese read any signal regarding russia as a signal regarding themselves much more dependent on importing, i agree. yes now the chinese fine, the other can long enough security council nuclear umbrella and beijing security and so on. i would move away from this territory, whoever is the eldest younger, brother. i think that here it is more like the concept of good neighbors and comrades. they need to build a truly equal relationship. a and. i think that, like russia , it would be difficult now to resolve its issues without a chinese implant without a chinese one. it means exporting our resources there, so some in the future and now it will also be difficult, because if you really look at picture means china's neighbors russia is practically almost the only country with which there are no territorial disputes, a provocative question.
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now i’m asking at the moment, yes, when there are already two full-fledged centers of power left at the moment in china, it’s profitable to call a spade a spade the continuation of this sluggish conflict in the center of europe, or it’s beneficial for china to support russia so much so that, let’s say so together, by joining forces already to fully compete usa already really. in fact , the economy according to various estimates. maybe even china overtook the american economy came out on top in the world in terms of gdp well, let's just not say something clear advantage. there, however, if we take the total gdp there and china, indonesia, india, and even the same vietnam, well, if you add south america there, then it exceeds, uh, the top five of the so -called developed countries. i think even the seven in terms of gdp. here it is beneficial for china, e. it is beneficial to continue this conflict, supporting it there, or it is still beneficial to complete it, localize and close it in order to continue further compete clean economically for the chinese. i will answer. first, it means in
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china a disadvantageous destruction of chinese and european ties. he needs the direction of europe to be relatively stable, and secondly, the attitude of himself in relations, in general, europe was stable. well, in relation to yourself, since china ousted the united states from the first position of a trading partner in the european union in 21, then, of course, consider europe to mean that this is chinese european relations. dominance of the united states and thus, in order to base china's dominance in the world, the second point is the loss of the united states, let it be formal let it be. it will be a peace plan for ukraine, everyone will accept it, and so on. that is, it is beneficial. it is not beneficial to defeat the russian federation is the third point. which is worth fixing, but is it beneficial for china that we reach, for example, the borders of hungary .
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this account? to what extent is it beneficial or disadvantageous for china to continue the escalation of the fading or completely localization of the cessation of the conflict? i think china is a good observer, but he just, a looks at the situation and use the opportunities that these situations give him learn to draw conclusions online every second. he just observes the situation and uh, there is always some kind of process going on. that is, it is only uh, in the western sense. yes, that is, the development goes up, then the fall up and in the chinese sense. it's a constant sequence ups and downs of precipitation in the form of a wave-like development and in view of this. that is. they simply observe the situation and at the moment when it is beneficial for them to do something, they will e be restrained humbly, so to speak. it is in my own interests to get there, so i am, well , a small expert in geopolitics in this sense, but i can definitely tell by mentality. ah, the chinese, they know how to wait, they know how to observe
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. yes, but the chinese do not show their aggression. and let's say, so their such peaceful stance. it gives e fruits in that, including its ionization, including the spread of chinese authority in the world, because they allow the local center to remain, and they allow decision-making, and some kind of national identity to be preserved. that is, if the western value, they impose themselves, then the chinese values ​​are still, and they are more tolerant. uh, in my opinion, world politics at the moment have been supplemented by alexei , they are not chinese. yes indeed time. for the first time, it is perceived a little differently, but they do not know how not just to wait, they know how to form negotiation conditions for a deal. well, uh, coincidence or not? what the largest means is that the logistics company
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of china, before the election of the german chancellor , almost concluded a deal to buy portagammerg, in which the burgomaster was in scholz, and they formed certain conditions personally connected with olaf highway. i don’t know. as a result, we bought and bought and there was a powerful discussion. well, i was the first to name the properties to chinese lobbyists. then it's already was in the german one, accordingly, the thing became obvious; there was a long discussion, they were allowed only 24 e and 99% in this port to buy a macron, exactly the same you think that this happens on its own, and the latent chinese did not clearly form the conditions for their victory i i think that it is not just to wait, but to create conditions so that the fruit itself is ripe chinese. yes, i'll catch your hands, really actions - it counts. well , let's just say, low qualification of the player, right? there are a couple more questions for both of our experts. the first question is what can we do
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to propose to china in addition to hydrocarbons, in addition to raw materials, in addition to metals, in addition to, well , traditional oil and gas, as far as i know, your fund is engaged in the sale of technologies in china , but it sounds, well, almost fantastic, here are a few words about it. e that china may be interested in russia in addition to raw materials. it has always been difficult for me to look specifically at the growth of raw material turnover, because in my opinion in russia, the most valuable thing in russia is human capital. we have unique people with absolutely amazing creative intellect beginning, and in fact, when we in technology startups come to china with russian technologies. we see that these technologies are initially ahead of what can be developed on chinese soil by the chinese mind. for example, we have technology in the field of robots. that is, our radio technicians from russia to china is just the point, we do not have
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a machine tool industry that would allow us to create industrial robots there by the thousands, but we have technologies that allow us to control these robots in this regard. uh, it was a discovery for me when i came to the largest chinese enterprises and the most ordinary engineer of our let's say perm university a was simply head and shoulders above a, for example, the chief engineer of one of the largest electronics manufacturers in china that is, i was convinced from my own experience that we have very good minds. and when we bring technologies from russia there, we try to preserve intellectual property on the territory of russia and sell a license there, because then we get the most, let's say, sound cooperation, then we don't sell out there. excuse the giblets for the expression. yes, but we are collaborating. yes, maybe we understand that this is ours. and so, continuing the idea of ​​a younger and older brother, and he, as an older
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brother, buys our technology, but buys the right to use it in this regard as well. i believe that the technological backlog in russia is absolutely not implemented. and we have a very big nikolai. you have examples of what you can buy in russia in addition to raw materials, so i’ll add alexei and move on to such things. yes indeed, there are companies like huawei, they actually work like a vacuum cleaner in russia, uh, they are actually recruiting engineers and there is actually a certain brain current, but there are tasks in a different way. yes, this means mission impossible chinese means brother. let him use the terminology from alexei to force not to buy licenses, but to do joint ventures here, or even in general, yes, this is very difficult. you know from the automotive sector that they basically do not create enterprises. they mainly export to him it is convenient to produce chinese there, which means that the workers there outwitted it. yes, you need to study, and this mission before, among other things, means positive government bodies
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, so that these scientists do not leak there, so that these developments do not leak there, yes , a license, this is generally very successful. knowing the chinese, they simply can to buy a lot, which means i’ll clean it up without paying anything at all, but a license. again, the license fee is controlled by the chinese themselves. they are the masters in their territory, that is, of course, you need chinese, using our influence on china to force to do. that means a joint venture. i’ll be surprised that there are practically no joint ventures between russia and china, that is, the manufacturer is the easiest to imagine. they are simpler, or they are completely building. here the factory works. why did they use such a term alexei and social investors, it’s easier for them from the point of view of the operating system to do everything their own now about examples. specifically , what is the most now, a growing industry. this is agriculture and products primarily processing in the future. these are food products. the chinese do not trust their food industry, it is absolutely tactic love. everything that is produced no matter where the butanes of russia are.

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