capable of carrying nuclear weapons. uh, what a noise has risen irresponsibly, completely aggressive steps that do not contribute to the normalization of the situation. eh, this is the rule they have. although we are not violating any international obligations, this includes the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. and the americans themselves, together with nato partners , have been holding nuclear weapons for many decades , tactical nuclear bombs in five nato member countries, moreover, within the framework of nato , there is a project called joint nuclear mission. in the rank of this project, pilots from non-nuclear countries are trained in aircraft control and the use of aviation nuclear bombs, which, in general , is in strong conflict with the non-proliferation treaty, but also many. and this is according to their rules. this is possible, because as

i once said, i forgot who trump's national security assistant was, i will not lie. i forgot his last name and, uh, he told him such an on-duty american narrative. how fashionable it is now to express themselves about the fact that they are concerned that russia is interfering there in africa to latin america somewhere there is a nicaragu of venezuela, to which patrushev answered him. you know we have absolutely transparent ties. yes, we also have military technical cooperation, it does not violate any international obligations, but you are almost open. and then already, in my opinion, bolton was frank. it means that they are preparing coups there, you openly, not embarrassed to say what you dictate. countries how to live and he answered him. well, you know, after all, we carry democracy. and you are carrying. uh, costs. totalitarianism.

that's all, that's the whole philosophy here, these rules are the same for us in the west, not what is possible we are obliged to arm ukraine to the teeth, including more and more deadly and effective weapons and tanks and highmorses and storm shadow and now these f -16 are being discussed, which can carry nuclear weapons. the british have already supplied ammunition with combined uranium. and we can do this. but all other countries, no one has the right to supply russia with even dual- use goods. well, uh, you said it right now it is difficult to imagine that it does not have a dual purpose when there is a war people. uh, and have to dress and eat and have some kind of medical. accompaniment is a given. this is the position of our western colleagues, although supplying weapons. e to the area of ​​conflict, at least the countries of the european union are violating the treaty they already support on

limiting conventional weapons of the small. the treaty on the limitation of small arms treaty is an osce document that calls not to supply weapons to conflict zones and to eat in one’s own the european union has the relevant legal paper, which also requires refraining from such actions. this is all e is not taken into account is ignored. i want to ask you two last questions and, uh, one is about these sanctions again, we understand what kind of pressure is on the state that trades with russia and is considered russia's partners yes , to what extent this pressure is successful, how does it affect china, how does it affect on india how it affects brazil on turkey can

it be said that he is successful in his policy of sectional pressure outside of his own, if you want a block? well, i would say, first of all, that washington and e are completely subservient to their european union and the rest of the allies of the collective west , meaning, e asian. u.s. allies they certainly succeeded in bringing e to e, completely unimaginable before, and the limits and limits still, in my opinion, have not yet reached their desire to sacrifice all their principles of organizing the world economy, which, as i said, they have been for many decades , promoted advertised and well, somewhere they even imposed on everyone else and uh, ultimate the result will be. uh, i have no doubt that they will undermine their reputation, and not so

they have already proven their inability to negotiate more than once. but, and here, uh, i am convinced that the end will be finally put. if someone else has any illusions that it is possible to negotiate with them and then count on the fulfillment of these obligations. everything will be decided solely depending on what selfish goals the united states is currently setting for itself in relations with this or that country, to what extent it works, this one certainly affects position of individual countries. they are forced to take this into account, because, well, china, it is very deeply involved in the world economy , which is cut according to american patterns , which adopted the american rules of the game , beat america on the american field, and according to american rules, has become economically much more uh, strong and efficient. develop. immediately there was talk about what

needs to be restrained, china. today i read the next sanctions against the supply of chips to the people's republic of china, there have already been many sanctions introduced. inclusive because china is just becoming more competitive than uh, its western partners, but uh, in terms of the impact of these sanctions on relations between us and our partners in the world's majority countries, uh, we proceed and how like they are those whom you have listed and chinese indians turks. uh, our arab partners, a and many others proceed from their national interests from the balance of these interests, and when they are strangely guided by the balances of the balance of interests in relations with each other , you can always find methods and mechanisms for implementing such an approach. washington since november, but

not only regularly, of course, i follow the american press, talking with a variety of people, including those who belonged to the administration and, uh, in congress and so on. and this is what an interesting picture of sergeevich is that most of the people with whom i talk predictably, they have some questions about the position of the administration, but if they didn’t have it with me, most likely they wouldn’t talk, there is natural selection . but in general, uh, almost everyone has a feeling that, well, let administration does. something slightly wrong somewhere overdoing it, somewhere, as if laughter. these are religious dogmas and specific policies. well, in general, all this. well, it doesn't really matter that president biden says that

the united states is not a party to the conflict in ukraine once, that the president does not want a nuclear war of the third world war, two and three united states are the most powerful powers in the world. and if the united states does not want war. before this war, there will be no. this is a very important statement on the eve of the elections. how are you you know, in september , the american electoral campaign will begin in earnest, voters. in general, they say, listen, you do not have to support us with a strong issue of ukraine. but don't worry about everything we do. it does not threaten your prosperity as normal american citizens. this does not threaten your safety. this is a war, we are waging it, it seems, with full ukrainian strength, but why should america be afraid of the arrival of a large number

of ukrainian slaves, if this does not bother president zelensky america is very big. it's not always. as successful as i would like, but i don’t threaten anything in america, what do you say, well, from the point of view of propaganda, brainwashing voters well, these are probably good arguments, especially as far as we don’t give a damn about ukrainian coffins. if zelensky is satisfied with this. this, i think , is a good argument, with regard to the reasoning that we can be the most powerful powers in general, they will want war and there will be no war. uh, these are the successes of the american intervention of american politics interventionism. you can now remember for the last long long. well, even here, starting vietnam although nowhere, no success anywhere achieved results that were declared

destroyed. a number of states libya, an obvious example of iraq, cannot yet be glued to the end, well, and in syria, too, the americans. they are hardly promoting a noble mission when they are creating a material base for kurdish separatism, annoying both turkey and iran, annoying other countries in whose territory the kurdish minority lives. a. well, i already spoke about afghanistan ah. one afghanistan, iraq, uh, and that's it. the rest is in the middle east, and haiti, the americans have been taking care of haiti for years, too, in my opinion, long before they created the organization of separate nations, they began, uh, to help this country somehow create states, but there is still nothing to create such and such a functioning system can't do that, so here's laid out about the fact that

we are the most powerful power. as we wish, so be it. well, as long as they didn't really want to, apparently in many places. i don't gloat. i'm just stating a fact. and then that what they are claiming is their ability to single-handedly prevent a nuclear war. this is an honor, we praise no one wants nuclear wars, but uh, it was not in vain that they were created, despite this desire to avoid nuclear war. it was not in vain that checks and balances were created in the form of those treaties that we just talked about against missile defenses. on average, missiles are smaller and the range and the treaty, of course, are strategic offensive weapons, so rely on chance. i didn't know it was an american tradition. i think it's a russian tradition it turns out the americans here us even intertwined with words, ending the conversation. on the eve of the presidential election, the congressional

administration, er, from the point of view, suggests that the american voter rely on chance on the issue of nuclear war, that is, he is playing. in general, if you want the fate of the american people and do not tell him the truth about the most important thing, then. well, what they have destroyed is the entire system of the international legal deterrence system that ensured strategic stability. this is a medical fact, if at the same time i have not heard these statements that now quoted if while doing so they say to the american do not be afraid, there will be no nuclear war. well, it's time they say, it's good that they don't want a nuclear war, nobody wants it. i say it again , and precisely in order to reduce its risks and make these risks generally insignificant, there is a system

of agreement that was destroyed in the united states. thank you so much for this important and interesting conversation. thanks for taking the time. thank you for the invitation. visiting a person who can be called the first person not only in russia people's artist, teacher, conductor, a true patriot of russia, we have received a lot of awards, including games, and what is the most

expensive, most memorable award for you. well, everything that is connected with my country with my homeland, of course, is a russian order. well, of course, for me the most important thing is to dream. what will become a star of the first magnitude in russia in the soviet union, and so on even in the world, how did you imagine your future then, what were your dreams? when you were already making music, you probably already understood that this was your profession. this is your destiny i was born in rostov-on-don. i remember something, i lived in rostov until i was 5 years old. but there is also music that i will make music, that this will become my life's work. of course, then i did not think until 5 years. although i remember very well how some choir sang on the other side of the river. here i remember that

warm water. i hold on to the boat, my dad is rowing. mom is sitting in the boat and is worried, god forbid, if i let the boat go, because we are in a deep place of the river, well, from the other side some kind of choir sang, then in lvov it happened that my mother began to look for what i have appear interesting, so i went through some sports. this is diving. a little bit of everything. there 10 days 2 weeks of drawing too. well, i'm stuck, i'm in fencing, because then they saw the film three musketeers, my cousin. so he brought me to the fencing section. and i got to the first category.

that is the first level. this is the second youthful category i had. but someone told my mother that the brush can become stiff, that's why it's bad for the bow, that's why it 's so quiet, mom took me from there too. here but soul belonged to the beatles, i had my own band. i played the guitar. and when the beatles broke up the world collapsed, i tried other styles. there my brother advised me jazz, he himself sang and played the guitar. so it didn't work. jimi hendrix is ​​not mine. uh, and what did i do then i was interested in american jazz hands this group is blood, sweat and tears chicago and i did it in lvov but it was a pitiful copy, because we did not know how

to play like that. we did not have such instruments and these traditions. yes, they want your experiments term. yes, that is, then the group was rude flowers group flowers - i was a student, and they offered me and said 30 rubles. you will get it. i came and pulled some notes there , it doesn’t matter to me. in what genre, if a person is talented, i am already interested in this or this music is talented, so i like it, i like it there and sting i like it, i felt much more there than such a boy. very diligent studied at a music school and was one of the leaders, but this is for parents. well, first of all, the boy with the violin is outside. it's small son. so, it was already street friends

who did not treat this very well. then in general, uh, at home it was impossible to speak the language of the street, well, all sorts of things? well, yes, but at school it was impossible to talk about what they talked about at home, because this is already a political moment. yes, i didn’t like something there, but there were times when, uh, huge queues and bread in lvov , a bun cost 6 kopecks. so small and more than two were not sold to one person for hours in line stood. well, therefore, of course, there were all sorts. conversations well, of course, i wanted to i would like to visit these places, then there are graves. all of us are their parents, grandmothers. yes, i have a childhood friend. yes, which, well, we

call each other on holidays, but i know that everything is in order. he he cares. he generally considered my mother to be his second mother, because he came. and his mother told him, yes, you sat, so i'll give you an interesting book to read. and i spent an hour reading, and so it was for many years that you very often turn your thoughts. yes, there are a few more people. here, of course, well, it goes without saying

you talk and know to answer, of course, but there are several such people, friends, we whose opinions are very important to me , because i played this concert, and these people are not necessarily musicians, because my mother was not a musician, but her opinion after my concert for me it was very important and i have such friends of opinion, which would mean me. i can name them or not . well, first of all, my wife, we are classmates. as if in a conservatory, so she played the violin very well, until they had children who needed to study. here, and secondly, of course, this is nikita mikhalkov a. well, of course, they saw georgiev and our president, by the way,

listens to classical music. we already have such a tradition, if we meet, i always give him my new disc and that's a few years ago. by tradition, i have already presented another property. it was schubert's music and he looked. he says, and this is true information, that this is the composer who during his lifetime never heard the performance of any of his symphonies. well, where? well, it is. this not even all musicians know. you said that one of the most important people for you in your opinions is your wife natalya. yes, when you didn’t have such a conversation, which was your career. becoming the mother of your

children never regretted, she didn't live if you were, if you were men, then i would then i would answer you so 100% sincerely. and as if i'm a man answers. i can't. the fact is that, firstly, we have a beautiful daughter who plays the piano, his number of competitions. xenia teaches at the end in history. well, we are often with him on stage meet. i love her on stage very much, because she is a very convenient soloist, however, yes, very much so, in childhood, you need to somehow force it to be needed. mom, so here is natalya, she just well, maybe compensated. the absence of one's own. that's what musical activities, just about

everything invested in my daughter. and here is the result of a very good conversation about the fact that i left this for you or for the sake of my family, because this has never happened in my life. well, okay, as if you are men, but women are still more important to be mother than a violinist, because maestro but you understand. well, well, when well, there are women, conductors, two women, there are talents, but i would not want to play in this orchestra. well, it's sexy, because it's great, yes, and musically talented, but when he makes a remark, here, i can directly see how she adds a little pepper here. here the salt here in the kitchen is here, well, here, here, let's then. let's go man to man.

no, we don't have a president or prime minister there. well i think that still a wife. well, because she more often makes a decision all the same, but if i have more than 200, e concerts a year, this means that 300 days a year i'm absent. understandable orchestras, and natalia conducts your creative family. it happened. natalya loseva and my guest is yuri bashnev, a man who can be called the first person not only in russia but throughout the world, i cannot but leave now in the eighty-sixth year. please, your first tour orchestra in france at this

time is already a very good chamber orchestra. georgian, well then it was the soviet union already left. they are the virtuosos of moscow from the pelaks to germany vladimir fedorovich they left for spain i was also looking for a place where the soloists of moscow could go under a contract for 3 years. yes, that is, it was like that. well, almost a chain reaction when the musicians realized that they could go there was a time when there was no money there was a time when there was money and there were no goods, but i had seven options of them uh, seven offers there in france a few in finland in italy portugal well that's it the french mayor of the city of montpellier, he himself

sought me out. right now, come and sign the contract and that's it. well, i flew in then we had a meeting and the main question that i asked. you understand that this is a contract, that we are not leaving, we are not leaving uh-huh to the soviet union russia and this is for 3 years. yes , everyone voted that everyone understands this, and then there were just over twenty of them, there were 24 people, but the families of the dog and the cat. parents are relatives there, then there are more than 90 people there. so i left, it was just the most important holiday in france is the storming of the bastille and hmm there is the artistic director of the festival, well, the main person there. he said i need an orchestra this day here. i told him that you are not in command of us, the concert was somewhere in moscow , in my opinion. i say it's been gone for a long time. he will be

here. well, i slammed the door. here's what happened, and then there was a meeting without me , 1/3 took some kind of neutral position from the orchestra, they took medical certificates, someone suddenly caught a cold and didn’t come, there, and so on. but these two-thirds are divided in half i ended up losing the orchestra and they lost me. so i returned, and in december i had three concerts, the poster was already hanging in moscow in the large hall of the conservatory with this orchestra, which is not. i met by chance in the courtyard of the conservatory with nina wave dolyag - this is the wife of the richter. she said girl, turn the page. after all, so many left, so musicians. but we have talented young people, they really need you. so that's it, start again. and

then i threw my shoulders back and then you began to systematically deal with young musicians, but i gathered the soloists of the new soloists of moscow who you know now exist, they are already there over 50, you know by age, then they were yours, uh, a completely unique amazing youth orchestra. there are children from all over the country . we are really listening. these are competitions every two years. they first came up with this amazing project that has been in existence for over 10 years. by the way, he is supported by the president of the grand special, just imagine our whole country and how they come, where they live, uh, during the competition. yes to it

orchestra, but it's from everywhere from krasnoyarsk to anadyr there, i don't know, there are no central music schools, the new kuibyshev is small, a city for a family. a child, it turns out, successes are an afterburner for their family life, and the goal appears for the youngest person, a boy or a girl, and for a teacher. and in the end, the governor finds out that he has a school where children study. well, in general, i talk about this a lot, of course, but they first win at home. it is he who has been studying for six months and sees

the goal, why does he not run football. there she stands in front of her with tears, but he knows, by the way, he argued with you here, because you can play football as a pianist. yes, i know, here they argue. i myself worked out and ran, and my bike had an effect for you, who are the children , partners, competitors, maybe you can’t complain about the competition. it’s just that my friend’s denis is great, he just has pianist musicians in the world, therefore , it’s more difficult for him than for me, the amazing youth of the masleys what is one more turquoise, amazing pianist musician. i believe that better than rachmaninov, we recorded with him. that's who you asked, who are these children? who they are they are first

of all colleagues and i in general are mine and i think that, well, we should give back a long time ago. i do it. why did you become a patriot at some point? what happened to us? well, i think such atavisms are still soviet soviet. yes, although a lot of soviet. unfortunately, the good also collapsed. you are a good it and musical education. well , you can list a lot to make it disappear, uh, but i think that everything is massive. here it repels the creator. there and below signatories. come on, what is this , some kind of mass protest, they are personal

. this, of course, repels the creator. why did this word come about? well, probably also well, because often it was all too much. well , since you can not eat some sweets for a month. from morning to night, do you understand? well, it's impossible to confess your love every minute. it is being transmitted here by i think it was, but in fact it is now being revived, very powerfully with your orchestra. as far as i know, you speak to fighters in hospitals. you are the first to start. we started it in klin and played two concerts during the day. my children played. i mean, we're from the youth orchestra for refugee children in klin. and in the evening

we played for their parents, we played classical music. it was tchaikovsky who cursed the volume, where he also composed his sixth symphony of genius. the fact is that in this music of this level everything is about everything, and man, that is, the birth of death, loyalty, betrayal, love is hatred, and it is therefore, when there you go up in the elevator tokyo, for example, music sounds from the hotel , you go there, tchaikovsky and why? their favorite composers are mozart and tchaikovsky. the japanese, well, because the great she is beyond the borders of languages ​​is correct, and in general it is essentially about a person in fact that you were born at all, how you live,

your students remained abroad. i have in london have in italy in caressed the concept of mister group of elts, but he is italian. this is my italian student. there is bruno bulana from sicily - this is also an italian. yes, there is in paris there, it is french we are a student, he is an accompanist too a group of ices and innokenty e-e in the vienna philharmonic, in general, the rarest case of a russian who lives and works there for obvious reasons. russian soviet musicians with great difficulty in europe got into the orchestra, because they are much better trained, that is , not politically even by some obscene language. it's beautiful. this amplification of the orchestra is your child. so there for france, let’s say in paris you teach him music and he makes progress and

he doesn’t even get a conservatory diploma from them, but the laureate then appears a vacant place in the main orchestra in paris there and a competition. and this child of yours is playing and everything is fine, and then a russian girl or boy comes out, and is three heads taller, and then what, it means he spent this money on education, it turns out that this child is 18 years old, but takes up some space. another country from russia, and therefore, before the competition, they no longer let through the documents, so that a person would not come out and wait, in general, yes, but i understand them too, okay? and here are your experiments with drama theater by our friend konstantin khabensky, for example, yes, you and he's doing an absolutely ingenious job . the little prince is such a shocking job. i

know you have a lot more dramatic work where your orchestra is basically on the dramatic stage and you're trying to coexist with another genre. this is from greed from some of your creative. well , that's only creative greed for me, firstly, i get to know and communicate with wonderful talented people. with actors , here is a performance with khabensky it has been going on for nine years and well, with a full house, and now, when he became the artistic director of the moscow art theater, this the performance from sovremennik moved to the moscow art theater here i will immodestly say that it was my powerful initiative so that it would not cease to exist at all. well, bones happily agreed , and that means he's coming.

now, when i watch you in this performance by your orchestra, i understand that you, of course, in this performance, your role is not accompaniment and the same accomplice of romantic action , we improvise, but would like to try yourself in dramatic art not musical. well it's it's all the same another profession. you need to be a professional, firstly, memorize the text. secondly, how to pronounce what are the words of the purifier, well, yes, and then nikita sergeevich mikhalkov invited me to very black ones. well, i would in this period. i couldn't in one of the interviews. you said that alto is jealous, that the instrument does not like it very much when you change to another instrument. when you change genres, it means you leave, so to speak, because of the gold

standard of classical music , into some such some kind of creative revenge i say, as if alive, to capitalize it. yes , of course he is jealous, but well, he forgives, he understands what it is for a short time. when will he stop being offended for 20 seconds?

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