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rub. he is the only one to choose a car is difficult, who fits the car does not fit the price, who fits, the price does not fit the car, and when you find the perfect car at the ideal price, the count goes for seconds. this podcast is a must read. i am aglaya, napadnikova, director, writer, the director is visiting me. vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva are people who worked a lot with dostoevsky's material and today we are discussing one of dostoevsky's best novels idiot by the way, how does the public react? does the audience love filippopov? well, i'm generally interested in knowing this too. not well, you are generally a problematic, yes, the reaction of the hall is now the modern world.
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in general, a woman in the modern world. well, it's probably hard for a lot of people to understand. and what is it bad to get a job with a rich man from the age of 13? well, an elderly person to live to swim, then shampa. is that bad? its cool. yes, it's great. this stain cannot suffer from this, which means that it can wash away the souls, and this broke her. yes and now, she is broken and takes revenge. is this the main thing to convey to modern. what kind of women today are around sex before marriage, now it's just not a problem at all and it's impossible to really even explain to people, well, what's the problem? well, there you think before marriage, she lived with some rich man. it's really cool, the audience loves nastya and with philip, how she reacts to the scene with money, she has fun. well, that's how he plays people, nastasya filippovna cruel with men scoffs. unfortunately, everyone perceives 100,000 as 100,000. and that's several million.
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you see, those 100,000 are against our thousands. well she has money for a separate issue. by the way, yes, he was one of the first to write this. forgive some that he has this money. well, i'm not talking about the tough topic of money, he has such a thing. such one of the key, what is making money in this world? there are few mikhalych who did this, so throw the fireplace. it seems to me that through money the characters of the characters are determined. here's how the mouse relates to money. yes, he distributes a peacock to some fictional son. that is , as he says. i know what you really are not a son to involve, but still i will give you 10,000, if only you calm down. yes, there is a real filippovna who knows the prices. any person will ask a question. yes, he seems to be indifferent to money. he got an inheritance, you know? why didn't he refuse? he has
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two women here, vladimir ivanovich anastasia filippovna, and an agla, and no one will accept him without money, no one needs him without money. dostoevsky but also women. yes yes and you have something to do with it, it's not the same for you every time. that's not a single heroine. yes , please tell me how you pear they saw how nastasya filippovna, grushenka, but in general , dostoevsky's favorite female psycho-psychotype is a holy sinner. that's how it is in a woman because it is very harmoniously combined. yes, this dualism. this swing this pendulum reminds, after all. he has over his life. this is polina apollinaria suslova, his beloved. yes, the femme fatale of his life, of course. she was such a vladimir ivanovich, well, in general, in general. yes, he literally writes. we have an anti-vein, he says, we will put
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dark glasses where a person needs to be for the day apollinary wore dark glasses, of course, to get a haircut we put on dark glasses, and she is already a nihilist. she's already everything. it is this fyodor mikhailovich writes, uh, in an idiot, but it is this that has haunted her whole life this woman who changes her faces correctly. she has one side, there is another , and she is in balance between them, yes, and these manifestations are polar. well, like marmalade in sonechka. it would seem, yes, this is probably the most striking example, but they are, and in every heroine of dostoevsky it is precisely such women, you worried attracted him attention, you know? we can here witty cleverly formulate, formulate as you please. why is she like this? i think the answer is no, not really the answer. that is why music is the greatest of the course, you understand. if you write some musical theme, for example, yes, here is anastasia lipovny there or someone else's music, she does not articulate, she lets out
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a feeling. but our nature. and why the spirit, i now think this is such our national nonsense. there is such a true sign of a fool, and it is in all of them in these in all persons. she is all our dostoevsky so, my theory flows from our territory from the vast space where i am, you see. and this is another plus. this is another plus, and some kind of capacitor is a battery, because bogatyrs are a piece of land. he lost this world, his strength was already gone from muromets , you understand, i am absolutely convinced of this. this is no metaphysics. this is physics and this is the battery we have and we are sausages, you understand, we are not all capable of coping with this. in dostoevsky, too, this idiot is, well, a direct lustration of this. here you go. you say that music is the greatest art. yes, and that literature is impossible, but transferred to the screen.
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well, as a director, you have, er, an instrument that none of the other arts has - it's a human face. it is impossible to convey a human face, his facial expressions, the director, there is some sense to his method of work, but i can’t torture katya to speak. you know, look at me now. like this, or at the place of stanislavsky , run through while working there, fall out, and so on. i say look at her there or i can't say, i don't play anything. it's not just a face that i sculpt. i have to convey my ideas. it should be clear to katya and sow this seed, which will sprout. they're just there for something. although there is a director who is successful in modeling like this. and it seems to me, happy is the one who is wrong, if for the first time the source was a book , you know, then i have my own and he is a mouse.
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i have my own, if the first source. e, because it is so strong and no pupkin tyutkin ivanov petrov sidorova e will convince me, because i have these characters of my own resurrected who live inside me. that 's what literature is, and it's very difficult to break through brilliant film adaptations by staging through my vision the feeling of these heroes. well, by the way, i heard from some men that it was reading dostoevsky that really broke their relationship with a woman, that is, when they saw these female characters, after reading them. so to speak , female nature, something was understood that it was not necessary to understand, and since then everything has gone wrong , it's amazing. this can be a separate plot. well true, the women of dostoevsky, they are very unusual, they are truthful, but at the same time, they are all very strange in that they are generally here. eh, the truth of life to forgive for the banality
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is not the truth of art. and in dostoevsky this is all, and the poets wrote critics wrote that it ’s not that they don’t go, it seems that all this is all, but it’s not life at all in life, it can’t be like that, and in this sense, fyodor mikhailovich has me. and maybe, especially in the idiot, this is a fictional world. this is the art world. you know what's the matter, but nevertheless these female characters created here in the artistic world. they turn out to be an interesting world. and that is, these characters nastasya filippovna and ogla does not work. they changed the face of world art in general. we can say so. don't know. i'm generally, uh, far from thinking. you may not agree with me that art e influences reality. there is no such confirmation that art exists in order to strengthen a person. in terms of the universe. here is my firm point of view.
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here, and everything else about influence specific. well. well, maybe somewhere we will understand something for someone, but it affects everyone on everyone. no. here is such a product. and what do you think, idiot, can give something to the modern reader. well, look, either we are uh derogatory about readers, because you and i say that we are bastard. i'm delighted. i am delighted too, and many have read delighted. and that means the rest of the spirits, or what? i generally like to read. it's certainly not easy reading, and certainly, well, i mean, it's not easy reading. e, although er, for example, for the third time it is not difficult. you are after all a man of dostoevsky vladimir ivanovich well, okay, you know, uh, yes, yes, today i am here with me today. well, tell me, well, that's it, yes, you will say no, it's difficult, you can't call me. well, a book
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, yes, a book, or there is not one writer there, dostoevsky i will not think about it, and therefore, i may even answer vulgarly and reading it gives me pleasure. i'm in awe of how this could be done. well, how can you write it? just just now or it says, and we get away so that i don't see you, but never after a few lines she says, okay, not everything. i'm like these here are all the changes that boiling is. that's how i don't know, come on it causes. i just definitely have the east, but i remember my first reading of the novel, and at school i, in my opinion, limited myself to crime and punishing them , in short, something like that in the reduction of other works. here, and thanks to the role of me. hmm specifically already re-read, and i remember israel 14:30. i then sat for a week,
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which means i was restoring my skin, because i burned out all but i was cold. it was scene. i remember when the mouse of switzerland rides on a train with a rogozhin from that's just opening yes, yes, yes, yes, it's chill, this thin, light raincoat of his. here it is this chilliness. here it shakes a little. he does not know where to hide his mitten. no knot and i was cold. i remember that i was cold. i was looking for a way to hide from her. he says stop. wait 14:30. i'm on the beach in netanya , yes, plus 39. well, he even beats physiology. elementary, just like that, very simply good. thank you very much for the conversation. to me it was very interesting. this was a podcast a must read. i'm the chief talking director writer.
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and we discussed dostoevsky's idiot in the sense that dostoevsky's novel sounds yes, the idiot with director vladimir khoyenko and actress ekaterina guseva hello this is an easy money podcast and i am its host mikhail khanov and today we have a difficult, but very important topic that concerns absolutely everyone paid and free medicine . how much does it cost to be treated? and most importantly , leo bokeria will recover as my guest. legend of russian medicine leading cardiac surgeon of russia and chief. uh, a cardiac surgeon, if i may, so to speak , the bakal national medical research center for cardiovascular surgery, which you headed for many years. i think that e 25 years headed. and before that , they probably worked for the same number of years, er, as a deputy director. let's start right away with such a difficult question, where is it generally worth being treated in our
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country. a paid or free clinic is a different thing, let's say. here's what regarding cardiovascular surgery. there, of course, there should be a state clinic. this is 100%, because large groups of people around one patient are involved there. that's all there is to major surgery. this, of course, must be done by others. is this an open surgery or what? well , it's open heart surgery. this is neurosurgery. these are big operations inside , let's say, the abdominal cavity and so on. anything that requires a fairly long nursing in the intensive care unit, so uh, i understand that we have in the medical community in this respect a complete concept. we know to say that open heart surgery should not be done in private clinics, because this is indeed a process that can end very badly and with a court, whatever
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you want. the same can be said about large operations on a hierosurgical profile. the same can be said, but a large traumatology and so on, can be followed by a doctor. it's just that i'm on my own example, my wife had several operations on the tunnel nerve. here on the fingers yes, the fingers do not bend, and we just went specifically for the surgeon, who at one time saved my daughter's finger. so the operation went very, an expensive operation in a private clinic, but nonetheless. well, you understand not everyone lives in moscow, petersburg and in big cities, therefore, when we talk about moscow or petersburg, then my idea is that private clinics try to keep the same level as a public clinic, at least, and then uh patient arises if he has the opportunity to go to a private clinic, because there are no these queues there, with all the ensuing consequences, there is an opinion that oh
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, you know, as we always said a little bit in the past , let's go back, that the soviet union has the best medicine, and is it free medicine in russia, free or not? here you are now, we are addressing your experience to the head of the largest cardiac surgery center. you know, i've never had a private practice. all my life, all my conscious life, after the first moscow medical institute, which i graduated from the institute i immediately went to the center, which is called the bakulev center, and my whole life to this day passes as part of this center, therefore, and i have some minimal ideas, let's say. i once accompanied my wife to a private dental clinic there. well, it was her choice. you understand, therefore, but your children are grandchildren, they are all treated by state doctors. here, but they are not treated, but if
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this is how, well, healthy, girls, yes, yes, and grandchildren of health, i have all the pieces here they are rich, well thanks, here they are and healthy girls grew up and grandchildren grow up healthy. and if not, you know, they often argue about when to go to the doctor and so on. hmm, there is such a classic message, so to speak. uh, in medicine, that a person should go to the doctor when he felt something like that, because the giant trend. you see, here's to go caps. yes, we drove to be examined, there, the fifth twenties will definitely find something, which do not play any role. and then a doctor e of not such equipment begins to appear in a person. maybe there is some
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let's say. um, there is the duration of the complex. there the psychosomatics begins a little increased. and this one who is, then , says, shows, and then the usual quirks begin in a person, you understand, therefore, not all doctors will write down the advice correctly. we are programs all the time. i teach our audience to write. well, it's generally useful. yes, uh, to and i remember everything, you know, like in lectures to a student? what to write down? i know it's been a week. you already forgot everything. so, uh, we write down that uh, you don't have to beat yourself up about what you everyone is sick and you always have to think about the fact that i missed the next check, chicago now you can say an annual two- year three-year there, the most important criterion for something to happen is pain. that is, and the feeling that something is wrong with you, yes , it tells you, uh, the leading cardiac surgeon in russia for many years. uh, leon antonovich bakiri,
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that you should go to the doctor only when you feel something is not right, this is a reason to go to the doctor, it is available. yes? let's talk now about the availability of such heavy necessary heavy. i mean, uh, in terms of importance, hard things, like heart surgeries. eh, it's available to everyone. and let's say that our capacities allow it. yes, i will absolutely speak, i say, as the main specialist in this section, because here we have a huge network of such centers, where, for example, in moscow there are several clinics in st. that somewhere there is not. you take a direction, relatively speaking, if you don’t like something there. go to moscow go to st. petersburg the biggest problem with this faced with the fact that they don’t give a direction above, that is, they give, they don’t
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have no right. and they are obliged to give if they don’t give it. so i say, on the air, write specially to the ministry of health, write to the leading institutions. the topic will be decided. you see, it is impossible to turn such a serious tool as the provision of highly qualified specialized assistance. here in something there they give, they don’t give, and so on. there is one law for everyone, and every citizen of the russian federation has the right to be operated on. where he wants recorded every citizen has the right to himself, where he wants it is important to get a direction. if not given, then we turn to the cops. well, if you can, you can write a letter without rava. well, i speak in my specialty, write a letter to the bakulev heart center. we will call for sure, you understand that we have a large number of operating rooms? yes, no, well,
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there are a lot of such centers in the russian federations. you well. will talk. so 80 plus at that age. you do not just head various medical associations. hey, share your experience. you have and practicing surgeon. i operate every day, but when it comes, well, it’s different now , such a period that there are simply fewer patients. and so i had the largest number of operations up to seven per day. here, and i repeat one more time, maybe this year is such a small number of patients, well, one or two operations now. and why are there fewer operations now, returning to our topic in private medicine, it is obvious that they are leaving, because it is impossible to go abroad. no, why a i don’t know, i think, i think that after all, this is a network, which we set up in the country of cardiac surgery. i think that she is starting to slowly cope with requests.
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tell me, when did you come, uh, after the sechinavka, did you come here? at the bakulev institute, there was ever an idea to open a private clinic, never in my life, because i think that, firstly, the period that i lived. uh, it was not accepted, even the nineties zero. well, yes, no. no. well, how is it for chickens? do you understand the laugh? this is such a large team of people who are busy with one patient that in a private clinic it is unreal. we make a diagnosis of a born heart disease when it is still in the mother's womb and we solve the problem. after how many days to operate on him, well, for many years i dealt with these issues, and we came to us directly from the kulakovsky center. the child will lie down for a day and we will. otherwise, he will die. you see, these operations that are performed on the heart, they are very expensive, and therefore, of course
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, the private sector in this section is actually, but there are in america, yes, basically, private clinics of such a very high level, but they exist, they originated from something, they had some foundation for many years, and so on, and still today they lag behind in terms of volume in terms of the quality of the operation. this is from the fact that, let's say, such bakulevsky has a commercial branch. no. no, that is, you have we have patients who do not have a referral. well, yes, and such a method exists, but they pay exactly as much as the state pays us. if not a secret, how much? well, they are different. that's up well everyone wants 100.000. a million oh no no, well, he i i, really afraid of the range from 100 to 500 thousand and able to 500 less less
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is the most difficult heart surgery. and what, by the way, is the most difficult operation for a sir , if we say little ones yeah, this is the so-called transposition of large vessels. this is when the aorta emerges from the right ventricle and the pulmonary artery from the left. that is , on the contrary, and this is a blue child. yes, here , too, at first hmm, such a procedure is urgently done, let's say the child expands , is born with a hole to come so that he cannot breathe during the mother, therefore, the blood mixes and in this way he lives off the oxygen that he gives to mothers and this message remains for some time when he was born, then it overgrows in a number of people, well, it doesn’t overgrow, and then we close it surgically, but we try not to start it, because then pulmonary hypertension develops with all these same ones. well, this is what it looks like in time.
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how long does the operation last, well , different operations, then this is a short operation, if we talk about a defect in the interpressive septum, that is, a bone blood circulation, there 30-40 minutes. and if you are doing multi-valve prosthetics, for example, a mitral valve, an arterial valve, a tricuspid valve, it can be there , let's say artificial blood circulation lasts up to 2 hours in the states . of course, of course, but good. here, but in perspective. so i just wanted to warm up this topic, because in the states, uh, a doctor's call. if here i am not medical insurance, it costs 200 to even medicine. he can't prescribe you any sneeze there. here, uh, for serious serious money, calling an ambulance costs 1,000. and even one and a half. here i had a precedent i had to call there for my wife
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in cologne at the airport and then presented a check i understood. well, there was a case i had an example there was an example in europe in germany yes, in the ir- mouth, if it were exactly between cologne and düsseldorf. there, the airport is located just as examples, but it was paid by the insurance, of course, but without insurance. eh, how are we they say it’s not there and not the courts, but only in the states yes, without medical insurance , that’s why they all bake like that, and in sweden they say, very high-quality state medicine, well, there is a 52% personal income tax, they are like in russia 13. and here, what do you think, from the point of view of your experience at the head of such an institution, the state is moving. in what direction is he trying to develop his, let's say, segment of state medicine more, to invest money there. invest in the development of specialists in training, or else it allows for the presence of e paid medicine of private clinics, it is clear that
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in your case, it is quite difficult and here you can not be afraid of competition, if only with other clinics in other countries, but in the case, and another medicine is not even necessarily dentistry. here are the general trends. where are we going? well, you know, it seems to me that i say this very sincerely. it seems to me that the system that is chosen in our country. she is for a person. it's perfect in the sense, in the sense that really anyone can get medical care, even if he cannot walk, you understand, an ambulance will be sent for him, the doctor will arrive, not in 4 hours, as they do not in america. yes yes. exactly, therefore , if we talk about this former very backward country, which nevertheless retained the population in good quality. we have a healthy population. we started drinking less. that's about it. we must also say, you understand, because
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it had a very large negative effect, so to speak. here is a solid drunkenness, which was on the face. i lived through this entire period, when i lived in a hostel there and so on, there is much like this today fewer drinkers really just know. liquor sellers are being caught. well, and so on and so forth, and i think that to a large extent this is due to the fact that we have a well-organized health care system. that is, we are now, in a good sense, reaping the fruits of uh medicine of the soviet union. we are not reaping we are not reaping. and we use we have the opportunity, you know, to live in peace thanks to the previous one. let's talk about frames. do you feel a lack of staff in your profession , feel the quality of training, that is, uh, what is missing or enough or everything is fine, but with specialists it is easy to find a shortage. you know the fact is that this
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system is also magnificently built. we have everyone at all institutes, if we prepare postgraduate studies and residency for ourselves, well, we prepare ourselves or others that you smoke. courses yes, no, no, they come, well, many go to our circle. we have a scientific student circle at the institute, but it's not about them, it's just advanced guys, so it's about the fact that he is undergoing residency, he is passing graduate school, if an intelligent person, he defends his ph.d. thesis off and on, so this is the vertical lined up. i think that it is built perfectly, you know, i have been to many countries, including the states, where i am an honorary member of the american college of surgeons myself, of such a prestigious one. so i can say that when they come to us. they are surprised. frankly speaking, here is this built-in system. well, they
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never come to study. no, we had many years, signed by brezhnev in soviet-american cooperation, and it must be said that in general cooperation is necessary for any country. so this cooperation was incredibly useful, because we saw a lot of things that we did not do, and they saw a lot of things that we have now preserved in recent years. especially in a year. here is an exchange of opinions at conferences, some opportunities at congresses anywhere you want in it a special component for better penetration into the chat of pain and inflammation against pain and inflammation of the muscles and joints will receive 1,000 rubles. behind invite friends to tinkoff until june 30 and participate together in the drawing of 100 million
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rubles when you share with friends, all such friendship remains, forever on june 9, tinkoff's friends day offers to celebrate it with a month of gifts. bring your friends to tinkoff until june 30 and participate in the raffle of 100 million rubles together. tinkoff he is the only one bring friends to tinkoff until june 30 for each friend you will receive 1,000 rubles. suddenly he will receive a gift or 500 rubles. or 100% cashback from partners or a free subscription to one of the popular services. and also you together you will participate in the drawing of 100 million rubles. bring your friends to tinkoff until june 30 and get guaranteed prizes. tinkoff
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, he’s the only one choosing a car is difficult, then the car doesn’t fit the price, who’s suitable, the price doesn’t fit the car, and when he found the ideal car at the ideal price, the count goes for seconds. have fun for inviting your friends to tinkoff until june 30 and together participate in the raffle of 100 million rubles. he is so alone. this is an easy money podcast. today i am visiting. leo bakiria leo antonovich chief cardiac surgeon of russia and our topic is paid and free medicine. how much does it cost to be healthy leo antonovich how do you choose your employees? after all, we have a built-in system for a very long time, this is called residency and postgraduate studies. that's
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why, as a rule, people who fall. as a result, to the bakulevskiy center. they go through both of these stages. well, sometimes we just take it after the residency, let's say employees. if he shows some unusual abilities there, are they already operating or not? no, they stand assisting, of course they should at all all this atmosphere is known to everyone and to see and so on. of course not, and then there is no point. well , he will make one botal duct. and tomorrow, that's why he must get the appropriate what is called position in the team some kind of salary and after that he will be there selection criterion. here you see a good boy or not or a girl. well, how do you share, firstly, you said externally about girls, so bravo lord, how i would like
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to keep such a clear one at that age. and most importantly, you instantly instant reaction wonderful age. look, okay, first of all, let's, we'll move on to the block of people's questions. eh, because we are all over the place, but we read and looked and collected questions. here is the first question of the same trembling hospital. polyclinic medical center any medical. well, not a government agency at all. these are kilometer-long queues, endless waiting for reception. is it really impossible to experiment with a relic of the past? what is the reason? this means that in many countries i was in the leading operated, they came to us with us operated on, which means that in all clinics everywhere in the same states there is a certain queue, because there are an incredible number of patients with a cardiovascular profile. that's it, you need to
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calm down. i just want to say it again, looking into your eyes. so you need to calmly find out what order is in this institution in order to get the opportunity to be treated. you just have to treat it the same way doctors treat you. you just understand what a different matter is, when there is an emergency, for this i am an ambulance, you understand there and so on, but when you what is called, you can come with your own feet and want to calmly go through all the stages. please, well, look at the situation such as this, we don’t come up with queues, people come, they write off us, you know, and so on and so forth here. i also allow myself to partially answer this question, because i recently had a precedent. uh, wife, she sprained her knee ligament very badly and her from a regular emergency room. yes, and the direction of sklifosovsky is a new center. i remember uh, 20 years
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ago. i got there by accident after car accident. i can tell it's just space. that's really space from the entrance. that is, there is a waiting room with conference rooms. i took photos there, they told us, you know , today there was a very big reception, there really were a lot of people there in may there were injuries from scooters and falls, and something else very much. many injuries are very everyday, and a very large reception will have to wait a long time. i say, well , how long do they talk, 4 hours they say, well, well. okay, in an hour and a half. we already got out of there. well i can say i would be really amazed, maybe it's only in moscow, probably, now residents will argue with me. ah, our vast countries. yes, something like this is not everywhere, well , unfortunately, yes, well, why are you surprised in large cities? it's already there. tell the governor that this is absolutely true, and so on, there is something like that, so we will not solve problems, but everyone can create. unfortunately,
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you know, i didn't want to. the main thing is to talk about what has already been created, but here i just agree with you that i faced with the fact that it was just in my understanding of the best european centers and all the level of medicine, yes, in which everyone considers it there, well, somehow already old there, uh, so modern. yes, yes, there is no such profile and such volumes as sklifosovsky, is your industry really antonovich, in general, is provided entirely with national drugs. there is some kind of import dependency, of course. well, of course, but not enough. well, there is such a thing as an artificial lung. yes, it's called an oxygenator when the patient is not breathing. well, when he god stops the heart and lungs. let's say we have oxygenators.
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