[000:00:00;00] and to create, unfortunately, you see, i didn’t want to talk about what has already been created, but here i, as if without it, simply agree with you that i was faced with the fact that, in my understanding, the european best centers are the level of medicine. yes, and the sklif, which everyone here considers to be, well, somehow already old. there are so modern medical centers. yes, yes, the next, by the way, such a profile and such volumes as sklifosovsky no, no, no, really antonovich is generally provided with completely national drugs. there is some dependence. well, well , not enough. well, there is such a thing as an artificial lung. yes, this is called an oxygenator when the patient is not breathing. well, when he already stops the heart and lungs. let's

say we have oxygenators. ah, they released it for a while. i now do not know how it is not, well, medicine, in different ways. i can't. i just do not know this issue, what is not there is purchased. naturally za gra well, in the sense, it's all sold in moscow, no problem. there is no question that probably filled already piss off everyone. and if we are doing so well with both education and training from clinics, why do we constantly come across ads that psms are reportedly raising money for the treatment of children? what it is? well, i 'll say a very bad thing. well, it seems to me that very often mothers still want to go abroad to see what and how, because you know. here, i always have me calling. this is a stormy rapture of laughter, which means that we do, let's say, 2,500 operations for children a year. yes, they are taking

a child to germany, where 200 there are more than 10 times fewer operations, and our former employee works there. that's it, and then what to discuss? to discuss the operations that we do, let's say there is a bakulev center. well, probably five clinics all over the world that perform, uh, such operations, even in such a volume, as we do not a single clinic in the world. no, we talked a lot about the cost of services and i will now tell our audience one little life hack that our wonderful state allows you to make a tax deduction and save tax, uh, from 120 spent thousand, that is, 13% we can calculate it will turn out 15,600 rubles. amounts. ah, spent on treatment, many do not consider. this is worthy of your attention. many do not consider this to be such a necessary thing

, but believe me now, with the level of development and document acceptance centers and the attitude towards this state and electronic documentation , it is quite simple to do this, well, at least in such quantity, but you can really save. and this can be done once a year, and not just a check, which, as we have already found out, is really not always needed so often and at least without symptoms. the next question is to start a question. we have already answered about the future there, private or public, and about medical examinations and other drops, here again i would like to draw your attention to the fact that when answering this question, how often should you do a body test and where to do it? i will repeat the words of leo antonovich once again that you need to listen to yourself and the best chicap is you yourself and no matter how strange it sounds pain is pain that will tell you that something is wrong with you and it's time to go to the doctor. one more thing to carry on healthy lifestyle to it. you again grab all the ideas from me well with the program,

because. well, come on then. all right. let 's. so, uh, because you don't go to treatment , your children don't go. and god forbid pah-pah, yes, you have to knock, that is, money. i understand correctly that the best way to save money is to spend money not on treatment, but on a healthy lifestyle. what is there to spend? let's go like this, uh okay. specifically, we take no tracks of surgeries. here are the top three tips to have a healthy heart score of three. firstly, you have to be born healthy, but genetics is important nonetheless. oh no. i just want to say that this is a zero issue, a certain number of people are born with a congenital heart defect that needs to be eliminated, or endovascular. there, through the vessels, you either have to do what we were born with a healthy heart. three tips to live to 100 years

and leave to keep your heart healthy. well, 100 years. i think that 70. yes, no, well, 70 not enough of course, 85, well, up to 90. you can even live three pieces of advice. well, first of all, you have to understand life is perceived as it is. i i think that envy, for example, is present in many people, which greatly deplete the human body. the man starts to rush about, starts drinking, you know, the woman is there for something else, and that is, well, that’s all, but everyone belongs here. that's why this component has a very large philosophy of self-consciousness, and you can come to this already somewhere, you know, well, let's say at the age of 25, you can already come to self-sufficiency of yourself. well, yes. well, why is the desire for continuous striving for something that, let's say, delivers to you

pleasure, but for you? so, of course, of course, when you are satisfied, i am absolutely sure that when you are satisfied , you have a need to make someone else happy too. absolutely right. i have already repeatedly said that i generally perceive the bible as such a manual for life on this planet, and there is something absolutely wonderful there. eh, installation near the love of one's neighbor, as always the most so. begin with yourself. how do you know how to love others? probably if you do not know how to love yourself, that is, come on, that is, the first advice is to learn to love yourself a teacher to be self-sufficient and, uh, you will have happiness and heart health. first second. you can here this thought, well, constantly strive for something. here is my feeling that if a person does not have a constant desire. yes, you don’t necessarily understand, there to fly into space,

there and so on. well, if you have chosen some specialty, then try to become a grandmaster in this specialty. you don't need much for this. to do this, you need to read constantly to be interested if you the medical specialty spend some time day and night with the sick in order to get enough, you understand the content, and the complaints of these people who are ill are their self-consciousness. these people are different here, you understand this is such a world? this is an easy money podcast. today my guest is leo bokeria leon antonovich , the chief cardiac surgeon of russia and our topic is paid and free medicine. how much does it cost to be healthy? i always say, so the body is very sensitive in general. uh creation, in general, i don't know, there is more uh hmm higher creation. sorry there. sorry lord, yes there, than man in nature. and and when we forget about something, right? well

, for example, we say that we want healthy teeth, but the body says. why don’t you gnaw cabbage, there’s nothing there, that you have teeth, that there are cereals and everything is smoothies to drink. yes, you don’t need it there, in extreme cases you put it or about the heart. you say i want a healthy heart. now why do you need friends? what are you living for? yes, i understand correctly that this message is such that if you develop, then the brain says so the owner works for me. my host develops benefits people, which means if i try to keep all organs in good condition. state, that is, it sounds, of course, very much like that, well, childishly it can be fantastic, but i think that this is philosophy, but in life if you talk about life, then you have to somehow work, i don’t understand. i just want to say for life the same as some people. it's just that he has never philosophized in his life and does not want to even think about it, he sets himself the task of being healthy. that's but to be healthy no matter what

this is a short time there to run, jump , you know, pump yourself up to be constantly healthy. to do this, you must comply with the functionality, which, so to speak, is not easy for you. that's the whole story, the best health measure is walking. let's write in the third paragraph. i just know your advice. here tell us more about it. how much of what and how does it mean, uh, well, the americans conducted very serious studies, and they showed that people who walk 2 hours a week. 2 hours a week they live 12 years longer than those who don't swim. there are no such studies, only walking took place. yeah, well, because you know, walking is everything and legs and arms and head and they are all very good, but it's a load of a load and it's perfect. it is clear why and so on.

that's why there are not as many ways to maintain a normal shape as it seems, for professional sports this is still a very serious job, which, so to speak, requires the maintenance of organs. in addition, in all sorts of other ways. as you say, if there is sports medicine, then if there is something it is not just to use it, it is there, he liked it. this is so uh. the first is to love yourself, the second is to develop and the third. well , at least 2 hours a week to walk no , i would know how it's all right, but you need to insert it like that, and life should be love. it's quite obvious without it there's nowhere to love yourself. this is called selfishness. if you don’t love someone, not even someone more than yourself, but several people, while, while young, mom is alive, dad is alive. that's number one, brother; sister, that's

number two. well, also the first place, but the most the main thing is when you meet a person with whom you then live your whole life. here it is very important to always put this person in the first place if you are a man. if a woman is not smarter than us, they are kinder than us and they are better than us in every way, because they eventually bring humanity to reproduction. this and so on. let's not insert love, because it's too uh, really a great feeling and a great filling, it will be ether, which will simply fill everything with the same ether that is between the first and second and third. that there is, as they say, i will paraphrase a well-known phrase without love and in the wrong direction and you know. now i’ll tell you, it means that they pass an anatomy test in the first year. i live in a barley hostel. we go there and play football.

excuse me, let's have a drink. here. well, and i think so again, i went to medical school. so, i'll finish and get a diploma. and that's enough, and suddenly volodya's head, who lives in the same hostel with me, comes up to me. we are barley every day. we are going to no pirogov, then the first two courses. they where the hotel national there in the yard where moscow state university used to be. that's what fits, says heard. olya soldier of this five received. i say, this is what we have 26 people. we won't make it yet. here, she says, there is such a small girl in glasses, her legs are all even, as it should be, too, for more than fifty years we have been together there, we have daughters , seven grandchildren, and so on. you know, man , hmm, she taught me a lot herself in the sense that she is very attentive, very

caring about children, is generally unbelievable. there your eyes are obsessed and you feel that you love you love her so much as it is really impossible to love yourself. this is true. it's just, i would just like to wish those who are listening to have such a meeting in life. you know, you said that envy is a bad feeling, but i sincerely and completely completely envy you, i look into your eyes. and now i just feel that you even fill me with you. thank you very much. thank you very much ilya antonovich for your invaluable experience. thank you for the time you found and well what to wish? be healthy. and you can also wish everyone who will listen? you need to be in good health. take care of yourself and your loved ones and be happy. thank you. it was a podcast, easy money. today we discussed the topic of paid and free medicine. how much does it cost to be

healthy? hello this is a psychic podcast and we're here to take the heaps of trouble off your shoulders. well, let's try to do it anyway. my name is natalya loseva i am a journalist, and my co-host is a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors hello, our today's heroine elena stupnikova came from very very. unfortunately, typical problems. how to explain to children that they are not to blame for the fact that their parents broke up? hello lena, hello. well, the whole story. e, so to speak, sad began 5 years ago e, my ex-husband and i separated. well, so to speak, we didn’t agree on the characters and, uh, now the problem. mine is that i have an 8- year-old daughter, and my youngest child has a son. i'm 6 years old and uh, that's the age uh hmm when do they

realize? what's going on and they started asking where is dad? i want daddy not with you lives. yes, they know why dad is with us. yes , dad doesn’t have another marriage, and his happiness and health, but it turns out. so daughter. she remembers him, that is, she was 3 years old when we broke up and hmm, my daughter is very worried about this topic and let's say such situations, when february 23rd. yes, there are some events in the school where they draw. postcards well, dad, yes, uh, and now my daughter came with such a tantrum. she says, and who should i draw? where is my dad? and why doesn't he come, why uh hmm they don't now they communicate very rarely and rarely by video call. it's like once a month, maybe twice a month. well, maybe you live in the same

city. well, now i don't know exactly where he lives. but you don’t know he lives there, no, we are not in the same city, when you got divorced, they talked for some time, things were for some reason , it was more or less regular and often then began to go to no, yes, yes, as usual with all happens, and the children live here, in what paradigm in what version? why does dad live separately from them? how do you explain, well she explained that we met , fell in love with each other, then we didn’t have a relationship. and we better somehow build our lives. yes, on their own, so as not to spoil some moments of life. well, that is, you didn’t offer them some kind of such a replacement model, what you see, but dad doesn’t live with us, but he, that is, you gave them some kind of sphere of his presence. well, let not

physical, but some kind of virtual remote work. that is, at first it was like going on a business trip, he works. he's there to make money for us. yes in order for you and me yes to live well. yes, yes, no, there are no questions, that is. well, what are we saying, when on february 23 all the children were drawing postcards, and dad , you could tell your daughter . yes, the fact is that it was at school, and i did not know that when they would draw what moment there? that is, it was without me without mine. they just didn’t read this situation, what could happen. so that everyone was to make some gifts. why did they calculate, because there is probably no such thing at home when we draw something for dad and send it. because if it was, then the child would have problems, but in this model there were no problems. well, well do dad not a court

postcard. and i'll take a picture and send a postcard. yes, we did just that. we then took pictures. yes this. well, here, probably , this is my yes problem, that i don’t quite understand, and sometimes, if the daughter doesn’t talk about dad. i try too somehow don't speak. why? well, maybe it's my inside. yes, it's hard for me. it’s hard for me to talk about it. and if she doesn’t talk, then i somehow don’t initiate this topic myself. let's take a step back. when did you visit us? this is how you would put it. or maybe you have formulated the problem? honestly, i can't even offer two options. yes, the first option, how to explain to children and the second option, how can i stop suffering myself? and i have a third option , how to make my father's presence in one or another

form? somehow it happened, because the father exists physically, the father exists legally and the father exists. well, let's say so morally and ethically, because, well, at least, because he bears material obligations. and maybe a third option. by the way, this is not a mutually exclusive option, yes, the third option, how can i build a new model of life in which there is a dad. well, in fact, i came here to figure it out, maybe even listen to experts, yes, in order to understand how i feel better. what better choice should i make? well, in principle, as mikhail da put it i had it in my head. how do you explain to kids what's going on? yes, why because, of course, at this age? they still take it upon themselves that it’s like, more precisely, a daughter , but uh, my son was 9 months old when we parted, he, well, practically doesn’t remember, but my daughter was 3 years old. that is, she remembers him well, and had a very good relationship with her dad. that is, he is with her, he is right there love.

and there was such love with my daughter and she is very, very worried that there is no dad around and but there was some kind of love, that is, he is with her there he somehow nursed to go and had fun while she was some kind of baby. they didn't walk. yes, she wore it on her shoulders. this is the whole story here. i mean, they danced together there, he turned on the music. she moved around somehow. it all broke off at the moment when he left you, or he already left, but their relationship. i just don’t understand how you can turn off lyubov yes, but me too, to be honest, it’s difficult how it happened, their relationship collapsed. well, gradually. well, that is, he began to come less, then he began to say so travel on a business trip to other cities. yes,