there, the field, as it were, reaches out, but it no longer reaches kashira. i have also been there many times, uh, and in the taldom. well, it has been mentioned many times. i have the beginning of dead souls. remember how there are two men arguing. this wheel, proof, rides or not? well, it won’t reach kashira. yes, it’s somewhere close to moscow, that it’s a suburb and this person has the same last name as sasha, i noticed this just recently, he is his last name. and by the way frolov yes, is it really news for you that i really didn’t soot and remembered, really. yes too you know, it's just, uh, taken from the ceiling, when for a long time i also had some kind of frol stepanovil in my early stories. that is , is it possible to say that this is such a great work of dmitry danilov well, what is it? for some reason i just like it.

this one is just some kind of creating between different texts some kind of common mustiks such, this is not something that needs to be somehow unraveled. do you understand? what's the score? what does it mean nothing? please, please, really. i have many characters and nikolai stepanovich i have one text, where there are three characters, whose name is nikolai stepanovich seryozha, is very stupid. well, it doesn’t mean anything that it’s mechanical , that is, they could all be called peter sergeevich, it’s impossible to imagine that one is called ivan petrovich, the other is peter, but still the same name yes, yes, what exactly is not spaniard. this. well, it's just, well, it's such a thing in one program was such an uh, and there was such a chip when the presenter and they said, as if behind the scenes, a replica of the opard. i'll tell you behind the scenes. danilov doesn't hear me, but still, hmm

it still means something, of course, no matter how much he said and once andrei tarkovsky let's interview about the stalker, uh, answering the question. what is the symbolism of the dog? he replied that i must disappoint you with the stalker dog, which means he said the dog, he is an example of such a conversation we have with you and he is terribly important. and what kind of person is already in a person in podolsk, this same fraulov, there is some kind of absurd interrogation going on. and how does he himself this hero, uh, hmm, in a new way or not in a new way , perceives himself that this is happening to him the situation is worse after all, yes roman sasha hello in the sense that well, in life it changes and changes in no way to blame. well, with him on the other hand nothing special and they don’t do it there, they don’t sentence him to anything. well , what they have in common is that they feel themselves to be objects, and both things are an object on which

something is produced. uh-huh in one case, this is the future of the death penalty, and it really is. he is her object, well, in the future, but unknown, and in the case of a person from podolsk, he is the object of some strange interrogation, and he does not understands. how what interrogation and for what purpose? tell me, after all, my e, pretentious soul, e, is hungry. e, we will use or how to say e after all, but who fusses? what amazes me is that there is no subject. yes, no one says that they are the law you. well, there are jailers in the novel, they say no. everything is fine. wonderful. here, make yourself wonderful. can't you walk past that fence? no, you can walk, please, but you can’t close the alcohol for me, please order. but what is changing? who is the subject. and what is the subject there such an actual subject is a dissolved subject. this is a kind of reality that

is so mechanistic and technology. he takes out literally computer programs. here, so that there was no one who could take responsibility, that here he was, he sentenced a person to death. here the world is going to the fact that this will not happen at all. yes, there will be no subjective authority. excuse the corral. yes , someone else figured it out. eh, this is the order of things and actually some kind of subject. it's worth it anyway. but i would like do it. it is in this book that it is as dissolved as possible. here, when just like that, there is such an order with a capital letter, p- invented. well, yes, that's how he is his people so how collectively they accepted it, they are cool separately, not someone said that it would be so. and somehow he uh wove out of thin air there is order, if something sensible becomes diabolical, but roughly speaking, uh, you can say, so uh, there is

a tracking system, but if a person takes a picture there from the wall in the gallery , then it’s bad or that it is detected after 40 minutes, of course, it’s good the crime, as it were, well, disclosed committed a crime. well, if he was upset that he was yes, our next step leads to a world where everyone is connected to a certain matrix. and there, once again, dmitry danilov or dmitry bug wanted to steal five kopecks. the neighbor has a red light, a light somewhere lights up and, uh, some preliminary measure is taken, because the worst sin is a sin according to the theory of inducement, as we know from dostoevsky from the gospel that is, this is such a world that is tuned to justice and the truth, but in the end. terrible manipulation and the absence of any subject. yes, somehow this time we

more or less coincided in the novel. e. sasha hello. there are such wonderful scenes in there, what if it gets staged. i freely retell, then the director or screenwriter will decide here if there is a love scene or not, between the characters, well, that is, after all, if there is something in them, if they ask for some way out, i, uh, tear my shirt to breasts or all this, well, some kind of technological dead end in everything world, how can it be, or do you not think about it? i'm just describing podolsk mytishchi well, i'm talking about it, of course, labor day. of course, i think about it, but uh, to be honest, i try not to think about it very much, because uh, i don't think duma is about that. all the same, it won’t lead to anything worthwhile saving, as it were. but to bring something bad. maybe, therefore , yes, you can’t not think about it, but it’s important not to get carried away with these

thoughts and not think that you ’ll come up with something very strongly, most likely, this will remain some kind of sluggish reflection, dear viewers. i will tell you behind danilov's back again that sometimes i lose the idea of ​​who is interviewing whom, it seems to me that it is danil who is being told. yes, you are moving in vain from pestering me in vain, in fact, i said everything in advance. so it turns out, the more interesting, the more interesting it is to read books. e, dmitry danilov e. here. i read you the beginning of a poem called human curse i don't know if you like the choice, but i love these poems because that they are exempt from political allusions. here are the synchronous allusions to time in the zeitgeist poem called how i said human the curse it begins so i'm right now right now. he knocked over a glass of whiskey on his desk on his work table. i just somehow took it awkwardly and knocked it over; it had never happened before; there had never been such

a glass for whiskey, straight, heavy, stable. it would seem that he should not tip over. and so, yes, he tipped over to run. now wipe with rags. it's all, uh, poured out, whiskey, flooded, many things, many surfaces and that's it. now it needs to dry. in general , garbage is some kind of nonsense, as it is now customary to say, well, just think, i rubbed some surfaces and everything became normal, everything became fine. no, it didn't. everything is fine. no, it didn't. everything is fine. it’s not normal and not good when a glass of whiskey or another glass or object falls out of a person’s hand just like that. i'm already on my own, in my opinion, this is a poem that can serve as quintessians. what you write because happened. seems like some bullshit. as you say, but in fact it is equivalent to a world catastrophe. yes, yes, and

you can remain yourself in this world of global catastrophe. you can be such a calm person with an elegant scarf, or you need to be horrified and say that the world is collapsing and the battlefield of people's hearts, the devil is fighting with the lord , you still need to remain calm. well , it seems to me that we should generally try to keep a clear head, but try. well, sometimes it's hard. uh huh, indeed. it seems to me that here in these even some small ones. our mistakes, that is, probably tragic, well, it seems to me that in general the great tragedy of human life lies in the fact that a person who has an image and likeness, god, can, for example, untie a cord, this is a finished poem. i think that the biggest tragedy is that a person who has the image and likeness of god can become

untied. for starters, it’s not possible to jump with your foot in the trouser leg. that's how a fool with these pants and in any way that's not to get there, or here, well, something like that or stumbled on the street. and so fell. it’s terrible, it’s already terrible, in fact, because here god’s samples come up, he shouldn’t fail to hit with his foot, that they must hit him like that, right away . for me, it is very clearly manifested in the little things here. i thought about it a lot, there were such composters in the old days, where it was necessary to punch coupons. well, or so or so and so you will never get into the ticket there and this one, too, that you do not get. eh, nah, foot shoe or you don’t get into a happy family and into love, or you don’t get into the lord. this connection of the very dishonest and the world still

betrays in dmitry. danilov in my opinion. i 'm turning you thing for research. excuse me, but the e russian writer still betrays you as an object for research , who disguises himself as an e indifferent painter, surrounding composters, e, trifles of overturned glasses and encourages us to think, e, about the main thing. i, uh, often remember hmm franz kafka's phrase from one of the parables, and it says very briefly someone must stay awake to the dodo must, despite the fact that everything is just the way it is. just don't teach. do not give recipes do not punish stay awake. someone has to keep a sound mind. i think you are one of those awake writers and thinkers, and i

thank you from the bottom of my heart for coming to our tip. thank you very much. thank you. i remind you that we had another episode of the podcast. e, let them talk, let them think. i dmitry bak talked with prose writer poet playwright dmitry danilov. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkapper this is a podcast of space history. today we will talk about space tourism on earth. my guest is a creative producer, broadcaster. uh, roscosmos media vladislav mironov vlad the first question. you most specifically agreed to wear the same merch. actually, no, we found

that we came to the same place when we arrived at your site. and i think that anya wears it because she is strong, and i just really like gagarin's quotes what is the main strength in man is the strength of his spirit. tell me what are you doing now. and in general, how did you get into the most space media in russia, but as you already said, i work as a creative producer and broadcaster in the largest industry, but in production. uh, in fact, at roscosmos media , my colleagues and i talk about our country and the world as a whole about the most important achievements of the rocket and space industry almost around the clock on a daily basis. and we move a lot, we put on shoes at the spaceports of our country, but at all enterprises. uh, actually we are filming ordinary people, here are the ones who create the russian cosmos with their own hands. it's very interesting actually. well, i know that now roskosmos

is developing precisely the space tourist. and you are directly involved in this. tell me about tourism, yes. actually , you can conquer and open your country with different keys. this is what we propose to do to roskosmos. this is through visiting cosmodromes, because and this, firstly, is a unique opportunity to look at the great past , present, and most importantly, the future of our country. a it’s also just worth seeing at least once. you can tell a million about this, but this is even from the first visit to the cosmodrome, firstly, what was the cosmodrome? well, what do you remember your first listen. i am very i am the first time i went on a business trip to the vostochny cosmodrome. and i was very worried, because i had been waiting for a meeting with a rocket for a very long time. what year was it? it was probably two and a half years ago. this is the first time i've ever been this far. eh, it got stuck. actually on the territory of our country, the amur region, and i was very worried for a very long time. looking forward to meeting. e with a rocket. and when they were brought in , they showed how the export procedure takes place

, even participated in the challenge theory. well, how i participated, well, i covered it last week . on this, as they call it here, the left tower , the installation of wind retention and maintenance trusses was completed. 66 m of pure space, while it is difficult to imagine, but very soon the most promising space missions of our country will be carried out from here. and actually. here is the essence of the launch. uh rockets feeling indescribable. well i mean, that's all i've heard about this or that. actually, about how everything is shaking inside, about the fact that it is, well, just when this is makhina taking off. yes, yes, of course, and then in the sky there was such a very rare , as it turned out, atmospheric phenomenon called the space jellyfish, it occurs when a rocket takes off, either at a very late sunset or at an early bloom, and the fact is that the exhaust gases light is reflected from the rocket and

a picture of amazing beauty appears in the sky. well, that is you see, i got two in one it turned out the first time i saw a rocket the first time i saw how it takes off so also there was such beauty in the sky after well, how could you not fall in love, uh, in e rocket space. have grown. after that , i can’t even imagine, but tell, uh, to ordinary viewers. how can you even visit the spaceport? we understand that this is a closed strategic area. i know that to fly , uh, to baikonur, to get into the city, you already need to have a pass to get to the cosmodrome, you need to have a second pass. it's just that when i started then he collected lists of his relatives, who wanted to visit my start. it was about 2 months later that these lists were checked by the ipk in the roskosmos security service. well, someone was approved, maybe there were someone of a person. he can not. i just want to go to the cosmodrome and go buy a moscow-baikonur cosmodrome ticket. this is a regime facility, a strategic facility. just don't get on it. that's within the scope of this project. it is called. i said let's go a project about

tourism at the spaceports of our country, by the way, be sure to subscribe if subscribed then consider, in my opinion, yes, they have already dubbed it in social networks. we have now made a smooth transition. we are just starting the east episode here. the uniqueness of this project is collected in that we, in fact, have collected all possible information. what is possible about how to come to the spaceport, what to do there? what can be seen? here we have now completed a huge layer of stories about baikonur . a unified space map in all of russia because, in fact, in every city in our country there is something cosmic, and we have now tied the cosmodrome. no, we want to expand, yes, in fact, this is the map. and now we are creating a travel show, we will travel around the cities and tell the audience. something you can see as a tourist point of view. here is the space infrastructure. that's it, we are just developing an issue about novosibirsk and i myself come from there and it turned out that in novosibirsk

there is much more space than you can sibirsk from your e from your question. e about spaceports, how to get there, in fact , there are a lot of options about this. we also write e in ours. telegram channel is the easiest way to conclude an agreement there with one of the partner organizations. but to get there in terms of logistics, where to get this list of these affiliate market. here is a man he has and he wants to be safe. uh, without incident, get to the spaceport , see the launch, and return alive and healthy back home. hmm, a person has no money to buy a ticket to fly like a tourist, but he wants to see, really, that i myself have seen these freight launches more than once and so on. i just know how interesting it is, history. well, after all, it's just who wants to watch us now. i don't know when the time will come. i don’t know in these internet somewhere and where he will find this information for everyone, but write to our telegram channel. it has all the necessary

information about what needs to be done right step by step in order for it to happen. this is a meeting with the spaceport, a lot of different options. there im listed list organizations with which you can actually , where you can apply and early or arrive, that is, a telegram channel, i said, i said let's go, yes, and there is all the information on the organization that organizes the case, an approving trip, in fact, listen and getting to the cosmodrome is also a separate adventure, in fact, because here you can get to baikonur in a lot of different ways and drive by car. there is one of the federal highways near baikonur. you can take a train from moscow to baikonur, in my opinion, two-day two days, you need to move somewhere. yes, somewhere you will need to sit down , the easiest, probably, and most comfortable way is to get on a tourist charter. to the actual airport. yes, but they are made here, just for the importation of tourists. well, you can complicate your task a little and see , for example, almaty or astana, fly from moscow and then uh, in fact, the horde proved to fly uh. this city is located two

and a half hours drive from baikonur and in this way, for example, with the east in this regard. everything is simpler, but there is actually a flight the city of arrival will be blagoveshchensk and then 3 hours then about the city of tsiolkovsky, this is the city of sputnik of the vostochny cosmodrome well, logically, we understood that a pass with a pass will help, one of our partner organizations will take care of everything. and there the main thing is to have time to submit all the documents. well, what, well, without names, what is it, a commercial structure , some kind of power travel agency, in fact, which concluded contracts with zinc. actually with an enterprise that manages the activities of all the spaceports of our country and which has the right to organize such tours and take tourists and show them all the most interesting things at the spaceports. tell us about other spaceports. well, i have already told about vostochny, which is actually the youngest and most promising spaceport in our country, and the future, just the same, is planned for it, that in the future all key launches will take place from it, this is just the newest most modern . and there is baikonur,

a legendary place. you are there i know repeatedly. e, there have been, and now i will try to convey to the audience the atmosphere, firstly, this is the very first and largest spaceport in the world. and when i arrive there, every time it takes my breath away that i realize that it is from here, when we talked about how to fly, who will give us a pass. and how to get to the cosmodrome itself , to come from, to cope with the travel company site, maybe we were with rackets, by the way, we’ll also talk about leaving. a little later now i would like to finish the thought about baikonur and an amazing place when i arrive there. uh, i realize that hmm, it was from there that yuri alekseevich gagarin once started, but along these long distances there are gigantic distances. this is a steppe, simply amazing, and valentina tereshkova, dogs, cosmonauts belka and strelka , the first satellite of the earth, immediately went into space, an amazing place. ah. actually, yes, in order to come there, everything will be shown to you there

, they will tell you everything. uh, there are a lot of interesting historical locations located there, for example, gagarin korolev's house where yuri alekseev well, in gagarin's house specifically and yuri alekseevich german titov space museum. i really have not seen this anywhere. although i managed to visit a lot of museums for work, and there is another model of buran. yes, the export procedure for the legendary development of the legacy of the soviet union is generally a separate one. history is probably the most interesting thing before launch. what can you see at the spaceport? this is a direct event, it begins with the royal times. early early in the morning , no matter what time a is scheduled to start, always around 6:30 to 7:30 depending on remote sites, and before the start they take out a rocket, it travels very slowly on a diesel locomotive , very special people go ahead. a lot of staff accompanies yes, they

watch. i know on the rails, because according to tradition they put coins on the rails, i don’t know there, a ruble two five. and besides, well, if you fly on this ship, uh, like souvenirs? well, they go sweeping these coins. i don't know about us. still, they get to do it, of course, we don’t advise anyone like that, because safety is above all, so the locomotive rocket travels very slowly, in my opinion, not more than 3 km / h they go quietly, yes, this is just so as not to damage the still empty fuel tanks from vibration. and i succeeded, and once i filmed a story just about the next exit, in my opinion. by the way, this was your launch. uh, with yulia, the klimov shipenko union with 19 was overpowered. i was allowed to ride here on this diesel locomotive. and the guys are trying to regularly take out missiles. that's what i understand school trips are collecting a model of proton or soyuz a. then you watch how approximately the same 100 times more, by the way, at the start of the ms-19 progress. they will also be inspired to create future models. but who knows,

maybe in a couple of decades. some of them will be the chief designer, tester or astronaut. it was, of course, a very interesting feeling of just looking like that. and i'm talking into the microphone there. there about just what kind of procedure it is. and finally there. an hour later, the rocket at the start, and then such an interesting procedure of verticalization of the rocket begins, when the rocket is lifted, in fact, setting it already in the launch table and vertically with a recumbent one, and it may actually turn out to be here, if you are at the cosmodrome, then i’m telling our viewers rather that it may seem that the rocket is installed a little crooked, but not exactly exactly a little crooked in this, nothing really seriously bad or something . this is being done, deliberately there is a whole department of ballistics, which calculates the degree of inclination of the rocket so that it flies where it needs to. this is a very exciting process. still very cold. and as a rule, on the road in different ways. we know, it is very hot. well, then already yes, in general

, baikonur is amazing in general, and the climate in the east is also amazing. and i seem to be siberia for me here are coniferous forests. this is something native, and here the steppe is a huge distance. when you come to baikonur, they are sure to conduct, by the way, uh, a safety briefing. i remember when i first arrived i was told that you shouldn't go to the steppe because there are scorpions there. there are snakes, there are gophers do not feed wild animals, camels run around, camels run around. yes, while you are driving, uh, wild foxes, by the way, come, i wanted to tell you about one such. and hmm there is a fox. e, korsak steppe forest. she lives somewhere in the steppe, but she always comes to the thirty-first site. it is now one of the main sites. baikonur where unions start? actually, the manned program is all from there. and there is such a dining room, and for employees, and every time you go there, every time i see it in the forest. she has a nickname called manya, she comes to everyone. this is how her stratoviks look , they feed her, recently interviewed we

were wearing your vladimir mashkov when we were returning, well, just to have a bite to eat there and waited for the bus. we just passed and there, well, did not smoke there. well, it calmly comes out, like i don’t know how a cat or a dog, that is, and especially no one there about there, a fox there. and the locals know her well, yes, it turned out that vladimir ivanovich mashkov is the main fan of this fox. he told me just a week ago. we talked to him. he asked me to say a big hello next time i see and we better not say hello some sausage sandwich because yes, they feed the fox, you need to take it away from volodya. how so, do you know how long ago he appeared there? and listen? no, well, thanks for the question. i'll have to find out, but it's interesting. i know that, by the way, in fact, this is specifically 31 sites, or is it samania? well , actually, at each start there is some kind of manual scaffolding. she, of course, does not give ironing. it's still a wild animal, but it knows where to run to get a piece of sausage from the specialists of the launch complex, you start talking.

kvn is cheerful and happy, you want to go on saturday first, we continue our conversation with vlad mironov about space tourism on earth, and now listen to the start itself. well, yes. the very way those who come to visit the cosmos watch it , there is a whole site, a certain one is called an observation point, and it is removed from the launch complex at a distance of about 3 km. well, depending on the course, easy, rocket type is not very far away. everything is fine. it can be seen, in fact. and a huge number of journalists, by the way, work at every

launch. and here you are one hundred percent if you come to the cosmodrome, to look at the launch of some spacecraft or satellite, you will also see my colleagues who are on the air. we broadcast every launch. there are huge such megaphones, and throughout the cosmodrome. mm, live tell what is happening with the rocket and give the broadcast. yes, and before the decision begins. yes, well, somewhere like that, it means that somewhere in two hours they land a rocket before the start. uh-huh just now, if we are talking about a manned launch, we are just seeing you off. uh, in fact, we’re already going to the observation post from there, to look at youtube is a voice whose you personally know this person, of course. uh, now let's explain for our viewers, if you become a spectator, uh, at least one broadcast that we conduct or the spaceport arrives, you personally will hear, uh, the voice of a certain person who reports that the rockets are all passing normally , as a rule, every 10

seconds there is a launch and further, and it starts there 50 seconds, antangash, yaw rotation is the norm of 60 seconds. the flight is normal , somehow it became interesting to me when once again there would be savings, and who is this person, because, well, you really already recognize the voice from a thousand. and i managed to get to know him and shoot a story about him. his name is alexander and during his vacation he is in one of the bunkers. hello. can you with your voice please say pitch yaw spin is ok dungeon yaw rotation is ok guys. it is he. alexander, we are partly colleagues with you, because you also periodically work live on the air and worry. uh, it’s not like excitement, but it turns out that the launch vehicle is even a living organism and during you feel the flight time. well, everything that

happens in it and how you pass it through yourself, and there is a special state in this. now, if we are talking about tourists, yes, and about hmm there are journalists, for example, we all observe the launch from an observation post, and all the specialists who provide this search are located at the observation deck. yes, and all the specialists are in underground bunkers, alexander is also right under the launch pad . here is his task, just to report. uh, all about the fact that with a rocket everything goes in regular information comes to him, but from the computer center. and he actually reports. he was very happy. a told me that he doesn’t think about the fact that his voice, uh, hears the whole world, and, as it were , his work is certainly considered very responsible, but da didn’t think about the fact that he, too, is already the same symbol, in fact, of any launch, like a lot of other things, and he's been talking about how many years he's been covering launch. but no, well, i didn’t tell you somewhere, to be honest, i’ll have to talk about it

the next time i’m in baikonur ask him, we see each other, then just periodically somehow just ran into each other. he also asked to say hello to everyone. hello everyone, this is alexandra's voice that we hear at every launch. well, what you shot somewhere you can see the story about it. go to the roscosmos channel. roskosmos tv has a huge collection of materials there already. i had the longest business trip mm in my life and actually to the spaceport. it was just a business trip for launch. union from 19 under yours, and the launch from yulia overpowered such projects by shchenko call. and we, of course, part of the work hmm, as it were , covered the time covered it was somewhere more than a month. actually a month. yes, there would be no savings. no, well, it was a very busy time. hmm, we worked a lot on your project, and covering your final preparations, we also traveled to all the facilities of the cosmodrome of the cosmodrome, which is on baikonur and tried to understand, that's how this whole

thing works and tell the audience , and amazing people work and live in baikonur and i think that tourists will the opportunity to get to know them somehow to communicate, because they are really space people. and for me, for example, i really remember we were filming a story about the work of environmentalists. they have a very cool team. they, for example, leave after each launch in the steppe in the area of ​​the fall. uh, stages of launch vehicles, takes them out , makes measurements, and so that our specialists or kazakh no our ours, uh, zinc, yes, but they make measurements to ensure that the ecology is connected to the baikonur system. our launches did not damage anything very cool team a of the hydrometeorological service, with whom we also met. for example, they did not say that a rocket is possible. in almost any weather, as long as the thundercloud is not directly above the launch complex. they definitely send such a weather balloon. e, before each launch before the state commission for refueling, just the same, that is, before refueling a rocket, everyone is convinced that

there is no danger, e, nature does not consider how e produces oxygen. it is a booster oxidizer to oxygen nitrogen plant. it turns out there are such capacities that oxygen is produced. hmm, and for baikonur for the needs of baikonur. then they are sent to plesetsk and vostochnaya . but the amazing place is the cosmodrome - this is a huge huge machine, and a huge number of people are involved in each launch. i was very interested to know and talk about it. and those who are going to fly, but here a certificate to bring some kind of commission to pass. uh, you need to submit documents , there is a list, just the same in our telegram channel hmm certain. well, let's say, yes, yes, there, as a rule, for 21 days, but aha, yes, there are deadlines for foreign citizens that will be a little longer, about 45 days. well, in general, yes, about three not 3 weeks before the planned trip, you submit everything to you, they will tell you what needs to be submitted. where do i need to submit some

documents? yes, we are making out, only only. if you want to notice isolation, you have to sit. no, it's just an astronaut. well, i think, venton, nikolaevich, you know, it's the best me every time i come to baikonur m-m. at eat me. mm, such an assignment, i always go live for the viewer of our broadcast in 40 minutes of admission and tell about what is happening at the cosmodrome. every time i try to find some interesting information , but to get it and then one day i went out with the key to the start, just the same, less than an hour is left in my hands before the start, and before the cherished, and the team is the key to the start. i thought honestly how to surprise the audience and our live broadcast and found it. actually the key to the start, which we will now demonstrate to you. and i ask the operator to me help once with the turn of just such a key began. uh, launch sequence. now, of course, no one does that anymore. everything has been switched to automatic, but the tribute to tradition is observed and such keys are issued for each

launch as a souvenir. and in fact , these keys are still traditionally symbolically released before each launch. uh, here's no button nobody pushes the processes are automated. well, yes, uh , everyone has a certain call sign for the spaceport. that is, no one says, there alexander nikolayevich launched, accepted or else someone is the so-called first second, there is the tenth twentieth thirtieth. here is the first one - this is actually the very shooting launcher, who is responsible for ensuring that everything goes smoothly. so i was at almost all spaceports. well, here's our very first one. you said the biggest baikanur, the eastern one is the newest, how do they differ for you. well, apart from nature, what you said, listen, well, nature, actually, too, uh. yes big difference hmm i don't know how active i am as a tourist. it seems to me that nature this, well, you can learn spaceports. and through it, too, because, for example, here is baikonur.

we have already talked about you, for sure. this is completely different, and the eastern one is huge. i remember when you go to the cosmodrome and there are huge strawberry bushes. it's just these sizes. here, uh, some huge butterflies are flying. these expanses are amur forests. that's very beautiful. well, yes, as i said, you need to visit different spaceports at each. it seems to me at least once in my life, because the bekanur is our glorious history , you come there to look at the heritage which was left to us by our acc-founders. in general, all eastern astronautics is our future, it is something innovative. there is something very modern there, for example, such a very surprising building for me, at least, the building is called a mobile maintenance tower. and that's why you need to visit two spaceports in order to understand how they differ from each other. and this is a mobile tower. well, about 50 m, in my opinion, it is uh in height. she runs into a launch vehicle during preparation for launch. that's right in the literal sense,

allowing all specialists to carry out the necessary pre-launch work in this mode. that's very beautiful. well, yes, under any weather conditions there sometimes, by the way, it can be very cold too, amur region. still, there are only planes. can be reached or train. there too. it seems to me, if desired, you can train for durability too. it seems to me that the road to the cosmodromes, but to see our russia and thinks, it will be 6-7 days. but why do our open spaces here actually imagine how cool. everything, here, as if comfortable, yes, that is you can, firstly, get an interesting experience trying to get to the cosmodrome. well, in fact, everything is much simpler than it seems, but it's also interesting. experience yes, and as well as to baikonur , as well as to vostochny, and then a separate experience will be the study of space infrastructure before, well, that is, many people think that it’s worth going to the cosmodrome, just to see the launch. this is wrong. it 's not like that tourists can get to

vostochny now, yes, that is, if now they can get to vostochny yes, just recently, by the way, there was a launch, and from there, and the next it was a sufficient amount. yes, those who want to watch the launch. now, in september, there will be another manned mission, only from baikonur a to vostochny for now. uh, before this space inspection it is very important to understand. he adjusts so much. that is, it already works there. uh, the starting table for the raki is relatively union, eh, but the start for the hangar is being completed now. this is actually the most promising advanced launch vehicle of our country. here, and at baikonur in september there will be a manned launch, and they, as a rule, the most interesting ones, because people send them into space. that is, the tourist can, well, see. yes, sure. a huge number of different activities, starting with the exit of the crew from the astronaut hotel to the song grass at the house of the earthlings group hmm, until the moment when they leave already in spacesuits from behind the 254 platform,

a and go to the start. yes, you can see it all with your own eyes. well, you're broadcasting live, what are you talking about at this time? i talk about how the preparation is going on about what is happening on spaceport every time i try to actually find some interesting story, some interesting moment, mmm, so that the audience can catch on to something. for example, ah. on the launch pad, there are huge iron structures such as beams, and on them. when i first visited there, i saw such huge yellow stars, and the big ones a little smaller asked someone a question. and what does it mean, in general, what is this asterisk? why is it like some kind of street art or that it didn’t turn out that this is a tradition of launchers. after each start. they draw e on this metal structure, and a yellow star. a dot, and one small means one start. and actually the big one is 10 launches. and here, specifically, from the thirty-first site of the baikanur cosmodrome. already more than 400 launches. it has been committed since the moment of its discovery. that's also interesting. and

there are some interesting traditions that you have learned about, that you tell about. well, here's the fun part. probably this is all that is connected with piloting and the program. uh, that's when the astronauts, when sent to cosmonauts day, generally filled with all sorts of traditions for me, one of such, how important they are, is to send you off to the crew. they leave the cosmonaut hotel, in which they actually complete their pre-launch training to the song grass at home , the earth group, they all know it, or rather in our country. and this is some such moment at the same time of mountain pride of joy, because you see, you saw off the same way, weasel once, and after you, in my opinion, oleg arteevna flew to the s- with his guys to the last time i was, uh, at the launch of sergei prokopiev, and every time it’s some incredibly exciting feeling, then it’s very interesting to watch, for example, and the report of the state commission, when the crew, already in their flight suits,

report that they are about to launch ready to fly ready. this is also some kind of amazing, in fact, the feeling of looking at people who are about to be there in 3-4 hours already twice reporting twice another start yes, yes, that is, well, you are reporting, uh- uh, in my opinion, the boss uh leader. uh, the darts commission is, uh, after we put on the spacesuit. yes, and already by tradition, uh, in front of the rockets. well, i'm the commander here reported to the head of roskosmos, yes, but actually with tourists. unfortunately , there will be no opportunity to look at the cosmonauts so closely at the launch complex. but here is how we work. there our film crew in order to the audience. broadcasts show this moment we are allowed to go there. and you yourself know that astronauts cannot get close, after all , safety precautions. here, well yes, it's an amazing time. well, the kick is so light that they give. actually, the head

of roskosmos or give such a small acceleration. yes, yes, here are some such traditions, and i can remember, tell me star happened on this next, that it all ended, what to do next for people who flew hmm, you can first, you packed your things and left everything, that's your work is over, but depending on vacation really. if this is a manned program, then we then, and all of us, as it were, are going, and such a local branch of the mission control center and we are waiting for the opening of transitional suites. well docking examples now in 3 hours yes, yes. yes, yes, now they fly according to the two- vitkov scheme, if they are mistaken, but there are tourists there. tourists can do whatever they want, and firstly, it is very interesting to explore the city itself. there are a huge number of all kinds of space artifacts scattered throughout baikonur. and if we are talking about baikonur and you can go to the museum, oh, which there, too, about which

the museum of cosmonautics has already told you to look at the snowstorm, and which are there to see in in the house of koroleva gagarin , be sure to travel to the launch sites, and the sites that are no longer functioning, but were once very famous, for example, the gagarin start and site number one from there. from where once yuri alekseevich went into space, and tourists are allowed everywhere accompanied. there are guides. naturally, some groups, but it needs to be seen, and in fact , there is a lot of work at the spaceport . hmm. . that's something not enough time, because even just to stand in the steppe. and this is how to look at these expanses at these gigantic distances. look at the camels that ride horses there, and this is for this. you need to allocate time, there are actually a lot of cafes and restaurants, there are a lot of hotels. that is, there will definitely be something to do there, than there is a market market. pilaf is very tasty there . by the way, uh, in one such secret one. i mean to bring something from there,

by the way, some souvenirs. you just you mean oriental. yes, there is one secret place where they cook the most delicious pilaf that i have eaten in my life. but i won't reveal it. meet at baikonur if you see me run up. i told you all the secrets, you will have to go to the battle to try everything in kazakhstan. the truth is that i have never eaten anything like that in my life. very tasty lots of fruits. there, too, by the way, but now i think. that's just the autumn start will be manned there, just the fruit is there, but my saliva actually flowed. i remembered, that watermelon. there are just amazing, too, very tasty melons, right? we continue our conversation with vlad mironov about space tourism on earth. here i want to ask you my standard question. i always ask, how do you see a person in 50 years in space, what will he be doing. i would really like, in fact, that we went to explore deep

space. it seems to me that in 50 years our country will definitely have a smart base. well, for starters, go beyond. here, actually our planet. and as far as possible get at least to the moon i think that in 50 years we will already be well, our country will be. lunar base, and not just fly around, namely , of course, of course, to explore. first, our only natural satellite and then go. and actually there further. we are actually humanity for more than 65 years, manned astronautics. we never got out . here, beyond the borders of our earth, as it were, the moon, and in this, it happens. further, to conquer mars , for example, but i don’t know, go somewhere even further beyond the boundaries of our galaxy. this very interesting, but everyone hmm space starts on earth that's the first thing i understood when i came to work at roskosmos so i think that in 50 years there will be a lot of space tourists, but for now you mean

who to fly into space. i think what will be the implementation on the ground or already, probably, not some kind of ground. so i think that smart before exploring, and actually the planets, and satellites and go somewhere far away, you must definitely see how it all works on earth, so i all i campaign to come to our cosmodromes to get acquainted with these space people to look at the launch to be inspired by this, and in 50 years already i think we will all be, but so for the weekend drive to the moon. and i myself would like to fly into space, of course, listen, i actually went to your podcast today and thought, that's all the same, life is amazing. well, i don’t know before that that i definitely interviewed you. and today you are sitting in front of me, interviewing me, that is, well mine, as it were old friends, yes, yes, i just i think, what if i, too, someday will be able to fly into space. then if everything is so uh, unusual in this life. yes, i

would like to definitely, and who would not want to, i do not know where he flew. uh, on the third flight. yes , on the third flight i had on board, i was the commander of the international space station , i was immediately on board. uh, two countries in one that, before becoming, well, professional countries, then. they were teachers at the school, well, at the school of america. i have everything ahead of me. yes, i mean that all roads are open. listen at the cosmonaut training center , please, i'll be more active then. i would like, of course, at least for 2 weeks, like to look at our earth from the porthole or experience it. this is the feeling of overload at the time of rocket takeoff. it would be very cool, but e, again, returning , uh, to my original thought here. space any space begins on earth, so come to the russian spaceports well, i support vlad, of course, you need to at least get enough to go to the spaceport to see the real launch i'm anton shkaplerov. today at

was visiting me. uh, creative producer. ah, broadcaster. e. roscosmos media e. vlad mironov i am anton shkapper. this was the space history podcast all space history podcast episodes. you can watch it on the first channel website 1tv.ru.

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the song is dedicated to saying goodbye, generally dedicated to anyone in particular. this song didn’t start at all about love. i tried to convey the mood in which i lived for many years, when you believe in a miracle and expect it to happen, but it doesn’t happen and it’s obvious to everyone that it will never happen. and i have this song begins with installments, by the minute. expectations of the impossible are crumbling m-m to say goodbye to the dream. and then, when i began to write this song further, she was already a little somewhere. a little lost in love. well, in general, the song is not about love initially. i almost cried. so, when i always listen to this song , i listen to understand that everyone is in it. this is a personal, respectively, moment, and each person always has forgiveness with something or someone with some era with

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