[000:00:00;00] visible today why because even here at the level of the ministry we are talking, there are power units there, there is a power unit there, the economic unit is all right, but it seems to me that if we are talking at length, if we are talking about strategy, then the two main ministries in the modern structure of government is the enlightenment and the education of science, because here they are engaged in the area that determines everything, right down to whether wheat will grow in our country, whether rockets will fly, whether such semiconductors will be created there, in general, what the country will be like in 50,100,150 years, and but it seems to me that despite the fact that this is sometimes declared on such a deep awareness that it is extremely important, but forgive me. i don't know whether it's fashionable or fashionable now for bismarck to quote that warriors are not won by generals, but by schoolteachers and parish priests. nothing has changed, it's different. uh, the story is that the president of the kenadi. and when the soviet union launched a satellite or yuri gagarin said

that america is behind us because in the soviet soyuz is the best school and we urgently need to catch up. the m-level of school education is also commonplace, only what you are talking about does not depend on the bureaucracy. it depends on the society depends on the intellectuals from the copper environment. first of all, it is necessary to create this other intellectual environment, wherever these ideas are cooked bureaucracy. it is too tough in the process, it’s very tough and you don’t need to do anything, but this is how life works, external influences are needed a and the function is the one that you say, first of all, the functions of the society but in this respect, just a weak society. there's little energy in this part; it doesn't offer any new ideas. if there is no energy, new ones do not break through. well, here we are discussing my article hmm and

it seems that such? sunsets, well, should resonate a little more with a few more people out there blaming me for speaking. where am i priestly. here i am again dragging to school, yes. well, and so on, where this is not the case. well, we have gathered to sit and praise the article in real life alexander precisely for this, for the fact that she, uh, will be a thought, but you are very right in that that within the bureaucracy within the structure of government is also a responsibility. this view of the future needs to be divided, therefore, when, for example, we distribute budgetary places by areas of training, that is, by specialty by region by university. we think about the future, at least in the middle. yes, uh, budget places, people will do it. in a year.

in 4 5 6 years they will graduate from the university for these specialties, they will enter the labor market, who can say who will be in demand in 4 5 6 years, and here we, of course, are also addressing our colleagues in to the government and public organizations in order to think together about the future and decide who will be needed in the industry, who will be in the legal specialties. anyone in the history of philology, i don’t know museum work, so this is a common matter and i agree that this is a matter of society and the ministry is very important for us. this is a dialogue with society. and we have what happened not so long ago literally. right now , 20 years are less before our eyes. our higher education has become practically. everything in common was understood. we are fully, what led to this transition. after all, when it was, well, not even elite, but intended for those who

really needed it, then we and the soviet era before the soviet still received well-educated people at the exit, well , ideally, oh, whom we received well. these are people with higher education education signs of quality with higher education. and this , of course, is not only the skills of competence and the ability to do something, this is the ability to keep up a conversation on a wide range of issues and understand when you are being fooled even in the topic, in of which there are specially, of course, and uh, in a good way, the humanities should own the minimum uh, mathematical apparatus. uh, people who graduated from technical engineering. naturally, the scientific specialty to understand. here i am, i remembered. yes, i, well , i remember how qualified he was by the consciousness of the matter reasoned. that's about the problems of the difference between the gregorian and julian calendars. uh, a special historical discipline. i don’t know the chronology of such an easy

-to-explain moment and how clearly he could accurately state, uh, the essence of the matter, how far, not every story will be able to here is an education. yes, and when it became de facto universal in our country, changes took place in education itself and in society's attitude towards it. well, i think that these changes , among other things, cause valery aleksandrovich's reflections in life. well, the massization of higher education is such a global problem. yes, i want to return alexander to what you said and air-conditioned speech, supported the relationship of the society. what to do about it? because society. of course, everything can, so to speak, be invested in the mind of society, but there is the concept of a picture of the world yes, from a picture of the world. we are born to jump out. well, so far no one has been particularly successful, if you are not leonardo da vinci yes, how to change this situation, what should we do? ok then. so we talked, we can record many more podcasts there, and we will do it and we will hit this wall. yes, but i don’t know what else to do there to make

films. yes, no, not yet, not yet, so to speak , not relevant to the generation for which the big change was a cult film. yes, first of all , you need to respect the young generation has recently been considered. uh, that most of the young people of girls are idiots, that they don’t understand anything other than tiktok pictures and short videos somewhere on youtube. it seems to me that this is a mistake. one of the consequences of such an erroneous attitude towards the younger generation is the simplification of the program. let's somehow in the picture in the pictures we explain something to him, what do they mean, uh. will remember somewhere, it 's not right if we treat them hmm with respect and assume that they are not idiots, but able to master the difficult the material, then, may change in some ways the quality of the conversation with the youth. this is the first second long ago we conducted

research leading school principals, and we named qualified parents. what is the demand of qualified parents for education? i remember well that, well, i beg you to be right, understood, they are now criticizing the english language. they said, that's where english is not so important. we 'll pay the money somewhere on the courses. they will learn english, our children, the russian language is important to us and russian literature is important, because what we understand is that these fundamentals are identical to the limbs, the russian language, russian literature. here you are, please, teach our children further, but the image of a hero. what is he like ? what is a hero and it is clear that here i am being criticized, because it is not clear how to create heroes, because now we have only freaks. and where are the literatures, where are the plays, where are the new theatrical productions, where are the elements? i've recently

read the poems of simmon hmm great patriotic war. these are very tough verses, especially verses forty-one-forty-two. a, volokolamsk highway. yes, yes, yes. hmm , you know, in the mid-eighties and all of the nineties, part of the zero ideology was built in such a way. hmm, that it was suggested to everyone that our country is some kind of secondary. she's kind of sloppy speaking, old youth language. and now there are some leaders of the world, and we can't catch up with them. if only we could catch up with them and everything will be fine. this is a profound prophecy, and so is she. i didn’t hall the public environment, and we lost courage, and we lost faith in our own rightness and in our own strength. here i know what to talk about. and i would like to support the conversation about the role of society by saying that well, i am an official not so long ago. in general, even quite recently the last

few years. well, i am the chairman of the board of the russian historical society and i can’t say the other way. well, on the part of society, yes and uh, we tried to build our own dialogue with the authorities, including the ministry of science of higher education. and here are the results of this dialogue. the ministry decided to increase the volume of history teaching by all areas of training in all specialties up to 144 hours. and the most important thing is to bring it all over the country to a uniform content so that every person who receives a higher education in russia would receive it. the minimum amount of historical knowledge, what is it if not the result of such social work, in my opinion. it should be more proactively integrated professionally. they said here, please, implement. there, now the e ministry has made a decision, also in all areas of the preparation of the course, the basis of the russian statehood-is the course of russian

civilization. these are courses of value, so we do not stand still. we are changing, but we really need a dialogue with society and eri alexander , i assure you. i fully support your thesis that today there are a lot of young people among young people, smart, looking for talented people, and all the guys who are now studying in the same fiestechi and in our other universities, because it is called the major league mm. this is the future of ours; they grow up, indeed, people educated in the highest and most moral sense of the word, therefore our task of the ministry, together with the society , is to try to pull up the branches, and these high examples are better to belittle, on the contrary, equal to the middle line. in the field of creativity, nothing is stamped nish, therefore, those who did not understand the irony in this name are weak. in general

, lcd that is, they show us so often, and they probably watch me, my friends. i didn't want them to smile at that moment. misha misha misha you have a little roof on your hands. you don't see morning and night. this greatly affects us, but we were asked to fill out a questionnaire before settlement in the house and there was a question. you have a girlfriend. we're all type-toky nanny, well, at the factory i liked the interns honestly oh yeah. i definitely liked her. outwardly, she is a wonderful person, but i understood that this was some kind of something, so we were at the concert of alexander marshal me. and then when they tell me that i will sing with him before that? premieres star factory 20 years later tomorrow at the first

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we won’t get away from this. the pros and cons of the danger are precisely in relation to education, if we discard the wild idea, but that hmm very soon there will be no need for live teachers and live communication, and all young people will watch lectures on tv by some great scientists of digitalization. there are no risk features. why not surely a person can become educated only in live communication without words? it can’t start there, i don’t know, with plato and his schools went among the olives, yes, and they talked about something and they all became highly educated people, it’s impossible without a teacher. get around. it's impossible. so, another thing is that computers. i generally graduated from the faculty of management and applied mathematics. i'm

aware. why do you need a computer? yes, you know the button behind the computer. you see, our laboratory worked at the diamond central design bureau. this is where the s-300 is, these things from the beginning of the eighties we had a computer personal real personal first computer in memory 256 kb kilobytes. i also focused on this and our laboratory in black, developed hmm star wars, then there was a concept, remember, yes, yes , well, actually, the countermeasures were developing laser nuclear weapons. and this computer was enough for us, we solved it more difficult. the tasks on this channel were interesting, we were on fire with all this, so do not do it in computers. and the thing is, what tasks are solved on these computers, if it is tik well, of course, this is the path of death, you understand, and if useful interesting important tasks for filming

music is being written yes, you never know what computers can help with. it's good to rejoice at the edge of the step of this huge topic, i met students of the moscow state linguistic university the other day and they were just talking about the fact that, well, already now, uh, we point the phone at any inscription. uh, the program recognizes and issues a translation into any language of the world will pass. well, not much time. i don't know, it's a year. two three ear put the earphone sat down opposite the chinese friend of the japanese and anyone, and we communicate will need simultaneous translation. where will these specialists go? e foreign languages. it seems to me that specifically in relation to this case, the study of another language, not only gives a person a practical application. it enriches him, gives him the opportunity to know

a different culture, a different history , a world that is different in some way, and in this sense it is a person’s job to be more adapted to changing circumstances, such a person, even if it’s not necessary, less simultaneous carriers will be needed. he will not disappear in life, therefore i think that no matter what information technology technologies associated with artificial intelligence will continue to be used in education. they doubt their will only increase the value of the education itself. will not go anywhere. at least, because an educated well -educated person is much more interesting to live. not always better, because many knowledge many sorrows nightly interests. well, then i have the last one. question so to put it this way, summarizing, maybe what we tried to say today, collecting our thoughts, future teacher. i do not know the teacher of the present looking to the future, who is he and what is the most. the main thing, the main thing is to know your business well, love it and love those, uh, whom you teach,

in order to sow, as it was said reasonable good eternal my youngest daughter studied at a very good school. this is a private school to bespontov. here are some very good ones, where it means that they studied eugene onegin correctly for half a year, for example, in the eighth grade in order to understand every line, you understand, right? seriously, i would be in the second grade. we got her there, and sometimes i drove katerina to school and us i met a teacher in elementary grades, and she always had a smile on her face. she kindly greeted the children with joy at eight in the morning. i was i was barely. here, well, you know , at 8:00 in the morning, and i would come there, and this joy was transmitted. this is how teachers should be for me. i remembered now. timofeev , our outstanding

geneticist, irisov, has an entry in his diary of recollection that he writes about his gymnasium. he says that we were in a class that was very butny and in general our teacher got it, but we understood there was one feature that we did not we can offend him. here it seems to me, when the teacher builds relationships. so the students understand that they cannot offend him. this is a real teacher. thank you very much, dear friends, what did we manage to say? it was very interesting to me. i am grateful to valery aleksandrovich fadeev konstantinovich mogilevsky, today we gathered with thoughts about what kind of education we need . hello dear friends. this is a podcast life is wonderful and i'm alex with you

varlamov a away. i have a well-known tv presenter fyokla fat and we will talk about a wonderful scientist layered. e academician nikita and even tolstone. and this is the father of a filay, and we must say that we have known each other for a long time and have been in the opposite situation many times, when fyokla asked questions, and i answered. today we are changing roles, and i am very interested in what kind of conversation we will have, especially since the topic is very, dear, very important. nikita ilyich turns 100 this year. and so we 'll talk about him like your father, like o a wonderful scientist, as a person who once made me, like many students of the philological faculty of moscow state university , a tremendous impression, because he was completely different, he was not like. whom he had amazing lectures, and although i'll be honest. i was not very interested, slavic

philology, but for some reason like this, but he himself is the appearance of this tall, stately man, such a real russian nobleman, a count with a long beard, his speech. uh, his movements, his gestures. it was something absolutely incredible. and here what memories do you have about your father , you need to tell our viewers that my father has been gone for more than a quarter of a century. unfortunately number 96, but really here in the twenty-third. we are celebrating the centenary of his birth. i have memories , of course, very, very warm, homely ones. and when you say that he was not like the others, then the child, the daughter , does not understand, does not realize, but i was always my father's daughter, and i, perhaps, i will say something completely different, but philology is serious things. we'll talk more. it seems to me that that what i'm doing. uh, working on television, because i studied at

a theater university, that i am somehow, uh, emotional, maybe, i hope, such as that artistically, that's all from dad. uh, because dad, despite all his scholarship , ph.d. glasses. eh, books of knowledge, yes, yes, he was a very cheerful person and very much. uh, just so artistic, he sang some stupid songs all the time. he wrote poems, he made jokes, and he, by the way, acted in films once, yes, yes, he acted in films several times. e. one day they were traveling with my mom on the subway to work. and there, beyond tretyakovskaya to leninsky prospects, i caught him. uh, just a subway assistant director. yes, because of his big beard. oh , tell me, please, you have such a beard. and you don’t want to act in films like that, dad, which means the president goes to some meeting there. you are their science or something like that he says, well , what do you want, what's in what? the actual

proposal? but we are looking for extras for the film. e sergey fedorovich bondarchuk boris godunov well, maybe that means dad is scared too rejoiced, canceled all his academic affairs for several days and stood in the crowd at e in the film boris godunov on the stage of the coronation, which was filmed then in zagorsk in the trinity of the sergey lavra, although the action takes place in essence, of course. in the cathedral of the dormition of the moscow kremlin so he disappeared there for several days. uh, and when he said uh hmm if he got a call from work or something. he says you don't say that on set you say i'm very very busy. so it was terribly interesting, and he was there on the set, too, no one said that she, of course, did not know either. no , i didn’t know, the only thing that dad was still here was the end of the eighties, people who know the church service well? and in general, here is the introduction, how is it, how is it in the church. there were not so many, and my dad was

a very church-going person and as a child he served in the church and services in general and knew everything brilliantly, so he was still very proud that he prompted a little, there he was an assistant and a second director. that how one should hold on, how one should, means to act, and so on. well, this, by the way, is true, here we are. so i studied in the soviet years in the early eighties, and yet. well, not that the church was completely banned. well, how can you obviously not welcome it there in the university student environment, he walked when bright week was there, easter congratulated christ is risen, and he did not flaunt his religiosity, of course, but he never hid it. i must say that several of his students somehow connected their lives, someone just simply became a priest , someone here, well, artemia vladimirovna and someone remained in philology or in science, but in a sphere close to the church. eh, like this, i remember very well how my dad and i went, and he

took me to church, we wanted to say zhilina and we continue to live in the ordynka. and this is just such a suburb of moscow, such a corner of moscow where several more churches were preserved, and several churches were open. i remember i went to holy week, and joy to the church of all who sorrow, and he stood there, he was nikita ilyich , i remember exactly that, and here, hmm, the eighty- fourth year. easter was like that favorite holiday. he always changed, but i wanted to say that it was still somehow preserved, uh, he supported such an old moscow tradition that you go to church? uh, for easter actually. here on the procession at the beginning of the service, then for some time we were still there. well, maybe not for long, because i was still a girl, then you return home and break your fast after fasting, then you go to some other church. then and then you go to visit odni and others, or guests came to us. and here

this is such a full night full on the one hand of some kind of holiday and holiday trips. eh, also conversations and friends, and so on, i was very shocked by this story from the cinema , because somehow i was getting ready just now, there i read some materials and memoirs about nikita ilyich, but lord it is written about the cinema nowhere. but that's just what you followed. after all, you also acted in films , that i and just such an artistic beginning and craving for it, dad, and i starred in childhood. i got caught the same way. it's just that uh dad for the beard, and at school they came to me like this at some photographer so he came and said, well, yes, girls, come here, and uh, my classmate and i put us on the stairs. i remember shags. since then, i always go to akhmats, and we ended up on the cover of a magazine, then for the second time some people came to the gorky children's studio. go to the girl here, we sent you and me to the filing cabinet, to the filing cabinet of this

bitter children's studio. then i starred in several films and his dad was something like this, well you earlier than dad. i took off before my dad. yes, and we, apparently my means, did not give children's glory, but peace. he also said that he had to get out. eh, you were filming, and i will be filming. i had an interesting story with this gorky studio, also connected with the thick ones, that i had several films behind me in my i don’t know 13-14 years old. and at that moment , our famous great director gerasimov was filming e. the film, leo tolstoy, which means such later paintings of him, and he plays there tolstoy and his wife. sofya andreevna plays armokarova there and they call me for auditions. here i am, probably means teenager. yes, i'm 13 years old and they call me for tests. i have to play e molo. uh, so she is still a girl, the daughter of lev nikolaevich jr. alexander lvovna

tolstoy i remember that i came, i was already interested in by that time, that means the history of cinema. i understood who gerasimov was, i understood who makarova was. i come to gorky's studio. such old chairs are high, and i sit down and i see that makarova is being made up next to me. i, therefore, a little i value it, but something winds up for me there, i don’t know that inexpensive people are here or something like that and the audition begins, and they have photographs and they all say, says, my god. well, it looks like, well, it looks like, well, how did you find it, say the assistant. well , it looks like, and my mother and i. i was still with my mom. you know, like a minor. we somehow shrug our shoulders there, well, god, yes, well, as it were, you understand, well, here is one family somehow, of course, alexander lvovna is fat. she means, a sister of my great-grandfather, but still how some kind of tolstoyan blood, but they did not understand that they were calling a person from the same family here. but then events developed funny, that when it turned out that i was fat all this, it means that somehow they became even

more interested, then it turned out that my uncle is beautiful, then, as i know, maybe this is not true, but so i they said beautiful. hey, ilya vladimirovich, stop. uncles. ilyusha wrote a rather blunt review of the script. e, gerasimova and. v. in general, i did not play alexandrovna lvov, but somehow they came. yeah, well, no, well, maybe i'm just didn't play well on the tryouts. the same happens too. hello factory in general, we immediately fell in love to a large extent from the grandeur of the format and from the fact that we quite correctly chose guys and here are sweet chocolate buns. if we are shown so often, and i am for sure, watching my friends did not want them to laugh at this moment. there goes the roof a little bit, you do not see the morning night. this greatly

affects the questionnaire before settling in the house. and there was a question. do you have a girlfriend. we're all babysitters at the factory i liked the interns honestly. oh yeah. i definitely liked her. outwardly, she is a wonderful person, but i understood that this is some kind of something here we were at the concert of alexander marshal. you tell me that i will sing a duet with him. the premiere of the star factory 20 years later tomorrow at the first pental in it, the highest dosage of a substance for more inflammation in muscles and joints will receive 1,000 rubles. for inviting friends to

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rubles. bring your friends to tinkoff until june 30 and get guaranteed prizes. tinkoff he is the only one to choose a car is difficult, who suits the car does not suit the price, who suits? the price does not fit the car, and when you find the perfect car with the perfect price, the account goes for seconds. get a tinkoff car loan for both a new and a used car. will receive 1.000 rub. for inviting friends to tinkoff before june 30 and together participate in the drawing of 100 million rubles. well, now let's get back to history a bit. let's figure it out, so nikita ilyich tolstoy is your father. why, what does he have to do with a lion, because it’s very difficult to deal with thick ones there. who is who? yes.

lev nikolayevich is the largest father in russian literature. he is such a great russian literature and understand who how fat. here you are , you are some kind of fat, as we say e second cousin. these tolstoy leo tolstoy you know, i mean, hog, keep an eye on your hands. and our line. uh, uh, russian fat now comes from here in russia, in general, not so many fat people come from the second son to lev nikolaevich andreevna from ilya lvovich tolstoy hmm, i lvovich married the first granddaughter before other children. uh, lev nikolaevich , this is the daughter of just, uh, both lvovich and the source. chief philosophers. you, and then they had a daughter, then four sons and e, then another girl and a boy, also a rather large family, but what, in general, in those days was not such a rarity four boys. it so happened, but ended up in the military schools of the cadet

corps, as it was then called. my grandfather studied at the naval cadet corps in st. petersburg; there are excellent photographs of his student. and even before the revolution. uh, as a young midshipman i sailed on the aurora, it was quite modern. the ship where he passed. eh, the practice, probably, among the sailors is somehow, that is, i also swam correctly, i say i went on the aurora and, uh, hmm, i continued some kind of service, first as a student, then uh, i continued the real one. here is another who studied in e. hmm in moscow, in the cadet corps, the eldest of these of this four took part in the first world war, and and beyond and when the civil war begins, then all four brothers. in the white army, three of them end up in the south direction, and my grandfather as a man of the sea, he makes his way to the east and

joins kolchak's army and it turns out he was a personal adidat of the general capel. here is my father when he told me this. he always remembered that in the film chapaev there is such a scene, mental attacks, how to go in black uniforms. just like that, just such such such a rank. e parts. eh, and, as far as i understand, these were parts of even just officers composed of a psychic attack. this is what we call a psychic attack. here, papa, this part of the general capel said, that is, he was going to enter there, probably, but not in the chapaev film, of course, but in history, probably in history. yes, my grandfather means, it turns out that we don’t have his memories, but we know that he participated in this ice camp. during the siberian, there was another ice campaign. and here when they when they are 2,000 km, if they are mistaken, they passed in the winter and there is a story that he was taken out several times to be shot. once he escaped execution, as my father

told me by the fact that he was seized and already means that they just put him against the wall, and then he probably considered that they were red. he thinks it's red. why who else is it? maybe now he can take life altogether, and then he became like. well, now, it’s just like before death. all that he thinks about the reds is to say and to cover them with such a good good naval obscenity and then, then, those who became somehow thoughtful. or maybe, after all, he is not in common with anyone, by some miracle his grandfather, but he managed to survive. although the emigrant newspapers already wrote that he, that he was shot, then there was news that he died actively, but still in the last hospital train. the unconsciousness in him is taken out to china, somehow through chita, he is somewhere there, he ends up in china in harbin then shanghai and then he begins to find out where his

family is, and how do you, i still don’t understand how they are found out. he finds out that his family in europe, in emigration, a pause must be made here. i tell you so, it's all like a movie and for me it's really a movie and to be honest, i want to make a documentary movie. here we are with my second cousin volodya, the fat grandson of another of those brothers, uh, whom i am now telling, we want to make a movie now in the history of our grandfathers and about mine, that means the other three grandsons of tolstoy mikhail ilyich andrey ilyich and vladimir ilyich turn out to be moving in a south direction and unfortunately, here one brother is dying of typhus, and the other brother is already on perekope, which, well, is there on the neck, which connects the crimea with the main mainland, and when the reds advance, he rises, uh, to his full height above the trench and just from uh, some kind of revolver or something,

he starts shooting point-blank. uh, the chain of reds, which, in general, was suicide, it turns out a bullet in the stomach, and it dies , in my opinion, just almost into the hands of his brother, but falls and now, after almost 100 years, historians have found it. maybe not exact right up to the very place of his burial, but the cemetery where they were buried, who died in the twentieth year in that battle, and there is now a cross and, uh, here. it is written that count andreevich tolstoy died there during the civil war. vladimir ilyich manages to escape. he boards a ship and through turkey through galipopol through this galippoli camp, finds himself in serbia in the kingdom of serbs in the croatian-slavs in migration and there in the twenties in xx-xxi they meet two grandsons of tolstoy,