if you need external signs here. it seems to me that another problem is that karine is actually not very interesting people. you see, she wants friendship, but friendship is all the same, uh, about well, about dialogue and selling. and i don't think you're really interested. people would be very to themselves. i'm on the whole hmm enough. eh, i'm fine with loneliness. i am in it. i'm alone. nothing wrong. don't stay in it. well, the fact is, because there is no complete loneliness, you have communication, that is, in common with other people. it's just you devalue the level of commonality with other people and say that if you do not have what you want, then this level is zero. and this is not so. you know what perfectionism is, of course, it is the pursuit of an ideal, perfection is only good for an ideal. do you know what pathological perfectionism is? this is a requirement that the ideal

be found, and right now and immediately. hello, this is hello. and with what pride you say this, you like it , you understand, it means that you really like it. this is your place and yours state. yes, and your longing for friendship. it's already part of you. i am karina, it seems to me that i need to decide for myself. that's good for you, in principle, if you remove all your dreams of friendship now. everything else suits your life. no, what else do you not like in life? yes , a lot of things, for example, unfinished repair work. the state of moving, which in some incomprehensible process is the absence of pets. ah, the lack of some kind of freedom a lot of things. well, probably freedom is primarily a synonym for money for me. at the moment, because i

really have a lot of financial costs now and for everything, of course, unfortunately, not enough. well, that is, you have something to do, that is, a normal person, but not enough money. so, but in order to finish all this , you need strength, and to get out of your strength, spend it on negative experiences, that you don’t have as much as you want here. such a closed cycle, it ends. only when you start taking what you have and doing something with it. instead of being angry at yourself or other people, what is less than you yourself fantasized think a lot about yourself and your imaginary perfection and perhaps that you are worthy of a completely impeccable relationship , an impeccable repair, an impeccable income. and because you, uh, your fantasies, your wishes, they are incompatible with ordinary real life, you drive yourself into this dead end, i try to avoid the mistakes of the past, just like people once refused to communicate with me

a lot of those or what is it was? i wanted at least some emotion to get live. why are you trying to avoid all the mistakes in the past. because i would like not to experience. pain. yes, it happens, yes it happens in life, but i constantly experience. so what are fairy tales? i'm talking about the fact that i don't constantly scare life don't flinch when i suddenly threw hmm no you couldn't because you are human too. well, how to turn to pain , you understand, you can’t live without emotions, including painful attempts to avoid them, they nephroticize you even more. you see, it is precisely the very attempt to avoid pain that leads to pain, because there is no pain without pain. and then you kind of two levels of pain. the pain itself, and more than that,

that it is pain, and then the third more that there is more from that which is pain. well , life goes on, normal karina mama hugs you. oh well, that is, you have a person in your life with whom you can hug, breathe out, and be some kind of absolute silence, that is, it happens in life. yes, that is, it is not necessary to always be so tense and ready to betray. well, you understand that there can be no such people besides mom, and i don’t understand. ready for betrayal and tense is not the same fact, but life consists of different colors. including those that are unpleasant to us, but an attempt to pull these unpleasant pieces out of life. will lead to the fact that the picture will be full of holes. try to reduce the degree of this perfectionism and the level for yourself and for others. see not a degree in

time of his plants. not now everything should be perfect, and i give myself time to go to this. and if i have not yet earned that level of intimacy with other people, then i will deserve it, if this is so for me. valuable. and if i don’t want to deserve and change, then maybe it’s simply not valuable for you, if i didn’t want to change, i would n’t even think about it. wouldn't come here. yes, you think because it hurts, yes , but you also don’t want to live all the time, you want to get rid of it, but pain is not a consequence of the circumstances that you encountered pain is a consequence of the interpretation of these circumstances, the attitude towards them , the interpretation of these circumstances, including yours. the main interpretation that prevents you from living without a field is that friendship is beyond the value that should be in your life, and to the extent that you want to be 100% complete. and this opinion is erroneous

karel. let while your request a little know such. he is so deformed, uh, comes from some kind of trauma of your experiences, but he has requests. so you have a chance to grow this friendship, just slightly reduce or stretch, as mikhail says, the degree of your claim to impeccability and perfection. and you can smile here's a friendly smile natalya now look, how is anyone there, can you still? no, this is the maximum. yes, just once again this, of course, is my taste from the point of view. e facial expressions, but i would say that for the entire time of our communication. you were outwardly quite unemotional and uh, had a rather arrogant expression on your face. this is my opinion. many people actually have it, but she is not arrogant. and it

seems so to you, if many people tell you so, then such a stereotype is present in this society. try to fit the stereotype. tsya, not people to try finalize it for you. yes, exercises of their own life. you probably love puppies and kittens, of course, you saw the face. and you can ask, colleagues, the machine , something about those inner feelings, that is, not to make a face, well, with inner feelings, with which you would give milk to a kitten or me personally for the night. but when you are touched by a puppy, all these of yours will surely let you go. there are expectations of betrayal of resentment and so on, but the puppy will not be offended. how else can offend, you can invest a bunch and not once shoes favorite to eat, favorite shoes and even bite. maybe you can imagine it, of course you need it. forgive everyone else. i love

dogs. what is your love for dogs? i should love cats more. well, you love cats. what does it mean no? what expresses your love is actions. these are things. i don't have a dog or a cat. i can't tell, but i can sometimes stand homeless food, for example, always when i eat some kind of food, not cooked. and yes , the ordered leftovers, everything that i do not give me , i will definitely immediately take it out to where the cat is feed. here's life, but it appeared in a person, yes, completely different eyes in the voice. you have a completely different face with you want to be friends. now it's true, it's true. it's just themselves really really want to. now why don't you have expectations from cats people. these are the same cats. sometimes i just want to stroke natalya right here. yes, well , here they are, yes, they can cling to

scratching a cat. maybe, well, it seems to her that i know kitty, you understand, and you forgive her anyway. why are you this pain from her? expect yes i don't expect you let us stay on your arms and don't lie on your heart. likewise, let the insults, suddenly free involuntary, that you receive from your buddies. don't let it stay on your hands. do not put them on your heart and it will be easier for you to breathe, you see, it seems that we have come to the right conclusion that you want to be friends. think people are kitties, dear, friends, a visit to a psychologist. maybe sometimes it has to do with rethinking your life. it may be painful enough, but pain is a normal part of life and having gone through it. you get better stronger healthier more mature. we invite you to our podcast. come, it will not necessarily hurt, but

even if it hurts or is unpleasant, or you are against what they tell you, it will definitely give you. a chance to look at your situation differently. so we are waiting for you to change it hello this podcast is a must- read. i am aglaya na batnikova director writer, today we are discussing dostoevsky's novel the idiot e with director vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva they say that people are divided into those who love tea coffee with a dog or a cat and a fat one dostoevsky and here i am, for example, a man of dostoevsky you probably vladimir ivanovich is also a man of dostoevsky yes, well, you know, you have to take the liberty of saying this.

i’m a dostoevsky man, but in a certain sense, it’s true, but i absolutely can’t say that somehow i ’m more than a person who didn’t even love dostoevsky very much for god, i also feel this very well, even paradoxically, but i'll say the same nabokov who didn't like dostoevsky what i didn't know then, i i loved forward, and i fell in love with dostoevsky dostoevsky later, when you were working on the material. this is fate. i am grateful to fate. what she gave me the opportunity to do is not even what to shoot, because to enter this world, fyodor mikhailovich, i would be an unhappy person. if i'm here now, i can't even imagine myself here without that's it, you know it. well, i'll even take a change to say. this is somehow already a part of me, of course, for the school curriculum it’s a little bit, but it’s a bit complicated, and therefore i am, well, thanks, who doesn’t know dostoevsky’s great

writers. dostoevsky what is there to say? well, what a crime, punishment there, or list something yes, so more than that by then. i haven't read much yet. but, when i was already started, i just read something from everything. anyway, here it is. today we will talk about an idiot, an idiot is a very voluminous novel, and how? it seems to me that it contains the entire matrix. here are russian characters and here are characters characteristic of dostoevsky, and this novel was written in post-reform russia, that is, after the abolition of serfdom, and it seems to me that there was a new hero and dostoevsky tried to find a method to make a positive hero, because the main character is a prince, myshkin , whom everyone calls an idiot. well, because he has epilepsy and. well, in general, he really just does not comply. uh, he has some rules of decency. eh, the other one. yes , the principle of interaction with people and therefore he is rashly called an idiot and roman is called

an idiot. how do you think dostoevsky managed to make a positive hero, because it is difficult to make a positive hero unambiguously, for sure, they will answer this question. i'll start with a seditious thought that has just been born to me. this is not homemade. here's a wonderful one. of course, who is the main character. they don't do it early. well, prince yes, mice, yes they thought so, definitely. no, there's a lot of characters, it's a mosaic, it's a mosaic, and it just pops up. e, prince myshkin i would say so, e he is a lighting device. it highlights the characters. here is the book idiot, i really think, lord, she let nastasya philippom into herself. this is one of the most. this is an inconceivably complex paradoxical image in history, literature of culture, in general, this is how

difficult it was for nastasya filippovna to let it all in. and what do you generally think about this character anastasia filippovna that is, how it seems to be such a heavyweight. yes? these are not just replicas that need to be said through a dash, yes, and make them your own. and they are preceded by a description. what state is this woman in? and what happens to her after she says something? and you understand that you have no voice, no data, no nerve. they are nothing in order to realize this idea. well , it's just the distribution itself, as it were , crushed france, i remember that on the day of the theater it was the month of march, its bulletin board, idiot, i saw everything. and he told me so, yuri ivanovich eremin. uh, our director of the theater of the moscow city council, now we need to find the limit. just humanly your

limit. i need you to laugh like that. how are you? well, i never allowed myself in my life, or for example. well, that's any quality to reach your personal limit. so he helped me gave this key, that is, the key is at the limit for limit on her own and then in general she is a bitch or she is a kind person. i think that neither one nor the other is by any means impossible, so categorically by no means. it's not this, it's not defined, either or that's the point. she is the elusiveness of a completely personal is everything. so i do not rule out that even dostoevsky picking up the names of hmm character. he always had a principled attitude to this. he was a saint who looked at me. i didn’t remember. what does it mean? yes, it's sunday, thank you, actually, they say.

aglaya light shine, you understand, this is the lamb god's barashkova, she is not by chance in a certain sense clumsy. and this is also fyodor mikhailovich is a well-established point of view, which absolutely agrees in any other hands the works of fyodor dostoevsky they have turned. ah brazilian serials there. well, what will not arise, you understand? yeah, that's all, or, uh, some kind of detective. yes, because he himself was talking about this, i read his diary entries, or i have a meladrama, yes, an illegitimate child, or that's all. this is a bit of a brazilian tv series, but in the hands of the feudoi mikhalych it becomes high that that he wrote to him. it is important for me to catch reading or to interest him, and then already yes , this is such a novel. it's something

incredible. i can't. i just translated how it is, well, they wrote about it, and even modern critics wrote about it, what is it? the variety of characters is so damn good. well, everything, paradoxical laughter. here they remembered. yes, they are laughing. there, on each page, 10 times from time to time they start laughing, then all in unison, then, nastasya hoarsely at that aglaya, and this, you understand? yes what is sometimes? it would seem not at all you know, yes, and chatting them back and forth. so i just wanted to say that i was just re-reading it, and i had the feeling that they were all acting these characters in a state of altered consciousness. they experience extremes all the time. that's how catherine said extremely limiting emotions. and it really could be a brazilian series. if it wasn't, that's kind of a mystery. missed not so accurately in terms of psychology and characters, if it weren’t for such incredible people behind it. the slot is all complicated there, although it burns.

it would seem that they are definitely secondary characters. and the way everything is not easy there is hippolyta. and how do you come up with all this? how is that in the head? i don’t know how this one, here is something mikhalych in this fyodor mikhailovich because he is human nature and in particular in the novel and do. here i am, here i hear it. you know when the bottom added. no one will be able to go further with him ivanovich but uh, i, for example, have a tendency to guess at dostoevsky. if, for example, i meet a person somehow. i don't understand his motivation. it's hard for me to find here some character of udostoevsky in order to find the key of a person. that is, i understand, but it lags like a ganichka. it's perfume, rogozhin yeah , this is it, i guess. from myshkin that is , i have, uh, and it seems to me that there is no other such writer who would, and that's it , an encyclopedia. these are precisely the psychology

of russian characters created. and you know, yes, that she is mortally old for herself, they opened, uh, opened the bible and the line. read it from above, he is very curious for his mortal years, because that's how it is vladimir ivanovich well, these scenes, here in an idiot, i i read there 15 to 10 characters that converge in one scene, for example, when nastasya filippovna throws money there. yes to fire. it's very difficult there. everything is psychologically connected. yes, there is a ganichka who is looking at this money there, let's drag e money from the fire and perfume rogozhin who is waiting to go with him to the neighbors who yes paid for the night. here, uh, right there is prince myshkin , who offers her a hand in his heart, right there, her seducer is sitting, yes, to whom, in theory, he is sitting. only the racy could women. look, he is a general, the teacher says. he kind of gave birth to it. yes, yes say

this character. that's all these people and it is impossible to imagine. here's how the director ru, how can this be filmed at all, because uh, while one person is talking. yes , there for half an hour it is not clear what others are doing. and how do you choose an editing room? what is more important is the character's reaction to what someone says or how someone says some words. as you know, this is, uh, such a question, yet too general it is meant every time. um, well, i was filming something because i was filming. i am reading. i i see everyone. i know, i'll bring you quite bears. mikhalych, these are wonderful situations. it is forbidden. so yeah, but basically that's all they do. this is almost one share , moreover. did. that's why i would always behind the eyes. yes, this is it, maybe it's the wives there are so many characters. it's crazy. it is possible

in these scenes in all you are now trying to present a mise-en-cene. she sometimes writes mikhailovich sat down at a round table and so on in the vidnoe village, the area is some kind of misanthenic signs. well, it's something anyway, it's something, it's not, it's incredible boiling, that's the passions and in general these everyone has their own, but in the theater here we will order a complex ekaterina i also can't imagine how it should be, in general, in terms of. well, probably, probably, eyes whose eyes we will now show in this regard. well, first of all, for this is not a talented person. can't be. sorry , here you need to somehow understand a little something you are doing. and then you have to come up with something, because, well, yes. and in the theater we see everyone at the same time and it seems, it seems that it is easier, in fact, everything is more complicated plus. now we have already invented ways when

we become larger, even in the theater, and so on and so forth. it is not the point to answer this question unequivocally. impossible. you may have found. and it seems to me, our , uh, theatrical film attempt. yes, recreate it . this is primarily to attract the reader to reading the novel. this podcast is a must read. i am the main thing, a body shirt director writer, i have a director as a guest. vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva, we are discussing dostoevsky's novel the idiot ekaterina ask, this is how you see the relationship with the philippovna connection, well, for the first time myshkin saw a portrait of him, he disappeared in the form of these eyes. he said in those eyes of suffering a lot everyone laughed raised him to death, but he alone saw in her. here is the lamb of god yes lamb.

a sacrifice, if you want an innocent one, because who is nastya a girl, her mother burned less than her father, burned alive , her father sang, her sister died, whooping cough died, that is, this is an orphan that a wealthy totsky landowner took away and noticed in her at 13 a bud that will become a rose and placed in the rooms elegantly cleaned and in general brought up and hired teachers by the governor, but they taught her not only french, but maybe nabokov was offended because of this. this is a flow of lolita in general, it is. so they have a lot in common and butterflies yes, yes, yes, yes , then he asks why i hate so much despise because you have prepared me for debauchery. and i think that since childhood she has bitten off this physiology, an abomination. i think that she is in general to this physiology did not return.

i didn’t find anywhere in the novel of her stotsky physical connection with any of these e men who talk about it all the time, she already behaves like that and presents herself and behaves like that, but was it really me, by the way, this too i was interested, but followed between the lines between the letters diagonally, i didn’t find something. found a phrase. uh, rogozhin arranged orgies at the station, anastasia ivanovna is present there . what is an orgy, it's not in our understanding, so, that's how to say it, it's death. unless she knows death. may be, maybe we can, well, at least she has clothes scattered there, that is, she is naked or because she is so mocked by dear wives. so why does it seem to me that she ended up with him, she herself did not sit down to take the knife. she um wanted to talk to herself through him and his hands. i think yes. here, but now we will return to the relationship with myshkin. why she

does not marry a mouse is impossible internal. i'm wondering what is catherine's key as an actress, how can she explain this to herself? somehow to think high. afraid of him ruin. yes, she considers herself a fallen woman , she does not want a lot of men very much, but when she saw christ, she suddenly understood what love is? and when you are ready to give your life for another, it is not carnal. uh, yes, absolutely, and i think it's this feeling that she was not familiar with. and suddenly, but this nature yes of this feeling, that is , a spiritual connection is not intimacy, yes, but of course , a feeling, an understanding, who she is and an unwillingness to defame and defile, and hmm it's impossible to be around. i would be here more, so to speak, if

you're advocacy philip something, i would like to act as a prosecutor, because there is a character there is still an ogle and it is necessary, who are a rival. nastya filippovna for the prince. they are, like, stupid idiots. two such women clung to him. yes two beauties one, so to speak, fallen another noble. here they are because of him, in the end they go there in one scene and after which anastasia filippovna she, on the one hand, wants him to marry aglaya, so to speak, he was happy, on the other hand. in the end, she does not let him go and shows aglaya, right there in front of her eyes. she says he is mine, and now you will see that i will tell him that he will be at my feet, and he will be. indeed, this is exactly what happens myshkin it seems to me completely unexpected even for reading or choosing nastasya lipovna stays with her and i am the head and

, seeing these hesitation, runs away and never sees myshkin again. that is, well , it turns out that for every filippovna she has selfish motives. that is, she is not so that she is not at all a saint, she has a sense of ownership and torments rogozhin , she seems to me to be of high quality with pleasure. how she was once tormented so she torments all the men of aglaya, she is told in this scene. she says, if you wanted to, it seems to me that this is the real philip. there, in fact, she was offended not by the relationship with the prince, so to speak, she was offended, because then she says, if you wanted to be an honest woman, you would go to the laundress. after all, we can say that aglaya is fair, that is, nastasya filippovna did not go to the laundress. she really walked with rogozhin, yes, and in general she presented, so to speak, her tragedy all the time very prominently, showing everyone that she lived a bad life. in general, luxury is enough. i don't know well. she is not trained, she is expensive, the thing that

was used cannot be exited from this scenario, the mighty russian language was used on the road. yes, you know the expression, everyone knows it, probably, i love you so much, what kind of souls are ready, yes, ready to kill would kill, yes. and it seems to be just a figure of speech, in fact, there is content. well, in the russian language there are so many sayings that are not translatable at all and even in another cultural space it is even impossible to imagine, go there, i don’t know where. bring something, i don't know what you understand, yes, you know the apostle paul has a letter to the corinthians. the first is a big part about love. i don’t know by heart, but we are love, well, we more or less imagine what you mean, in general, this is love. i will say one more thing to attract the reader to this novel. let's attract today if you read it carefully letters, nastasya filippovna, as the eyes. i

'll tell you. this is in general for today. then, probably, people did not think about it, as he writes. she still needs such words and how long and how unique it is to live there and how poignantly it seemed that dostoevsky fired all these minor characters there. eh, kolya ivolgin is some kind of swan in this general ivolgin, there are many of them, he gives them some interesting monologues all the time, but it always seemed to me that this was from the fact that dostoevsky played. he needed money. in at the time, publishers paid by word count. all the time it seemed to me that all these superfluous waterings had nothing to do with this main intrigue. i do not exclude purely theoretically that he stretched the volume. yes? yes, here, it seems to me, the volume and nothing of the sort, if it is done like fyodor mikhailovich you, please, this is welcome. well, but fyodor

mikhailovich has, uh, most of it, he starts such a digression, he has many such authorial, as it were, digressions. yes, of course, we attract writers , we attract non-traditional characters with something original advent tips. and what to do with and what to do among us individuals and then fedor mikhailovich begins his position on ordinary people. and as they are, uh, you can’t shoot boringly. it's boring to understand, and what about ordinary ones, there are further. further, he gives examples. she has them. ganya and it's a tragedy for a single, but he does not want to be a single, and you tell him this. so you are a nonentity. you know, in the hangana, they said, like a leaf, who are you pretending to be, and there are many characters and sister of the guni. she is kazakh. and as she said, yes, and he starts

when fyodor mikhailovich is a writer. he starts. for example, he says he is a barbarian. and how it then suddenly sets off, how it intertwines dostoevsky’s whole life it seems to me that there are no ordinary personalities, it just gets it, it’s just called he just says what to do with the original like this, and we suddenly understand and he turns them into a non-singularity, and this is already his genius. you understand here. after all, jesus is generally some kind of environment, generally speaking, jesus is impossible not to play very much to do anything. jesus can only be made here, yes, it can be done in a conditional work like this , yes, in the opera you can make jesus christ - superstar by the way, well, yes, too, yes, there they are, yes, yes, yes , they did some kind of or san you, but, in principle, it plays everything the environment does. here is either a child or mary magdalene who

or this, well, his business is such an environment. that's the thing. it is for the whole world, therefore, and somehow why it is quite difficult to infect, but for your own people, the whole topic is alben, are you going for christian motives? yes of course, here this is a picture. yes, he himself there is already a lot of his personal all these stories these minutes about the death of conversations. why stand up? so don't tell guillotis about death. don't say nothing. here, and before that, he told them about them and told them how he was on the execution of the guillotine - this is already like a bag. and katya is he so many stories of his life there includes don quixote and a note hides volumes of don quixote poor poem. there is so much more personal there, plus everything, he was never shy about mikhalchik. including player wrote,

to earn. yes, we needed money all the time, but at the same time, it's on such a level , so personal, so deep. he intimates his experiences. then he invests that, in principle, it ceases to be important, really. you know quite a lot of geniuses, and including michelangelo, who worked to yes, you know ivangay, these are hundreds, the shameful motivation of the brilliant director bergman, he has an amazing interview with him, which ends with saying, you know, you don’t need to. here are these lofty words. this herman is one of his last interviews. actually, we are doing. what a carpenter does, who makes a chair , a shoemaker who lives in it, the essence is further the question of how to do it. stay, but, in general, everything, you understand. you know, it's you who are scurrying around here.

i'm high, you know, dostoevsky drank the first chapter in agony. it will be interesting to be interesting that there is not enough money. writes have to write. that's how the region came back from germany ended. money, it is impossible to write, if there was money there was money. this podcast is a must read. i am an online batnikova director writer, i have a director as a guest. vladimir khotinenko and actress ekaterina guseva are people who worked a lot with dostoevsky's material and today we are discussing one of dostoevsky's best novels idiot by the way, how does the public react does the public like nastasya philip ? not well, you are generally problematic yes, the reaction of the hall is now the modern world.

in general, a woman in the modern world. well, it's probably hard for a lot of people to understand. and what is it bad to get settled from the age of thirteen with rich, well, an elderly person to live to swim, then shampa. is that bad? its cool. yes, it's cool. this stain cannot suffer from this, which means that it can wash away the souls, and this broke her. yes and so, she takes revenge on the broken. is that what matters most. carry up to the modern truth, wondering women's girls today around sex before marriage. now it's just not a problem at all and it's really impossible even to explain to people, but what's the problem? well, there you think before marriage, she lived with some rich man. it's really cool the public loves. nastya philippe how she reacts to the scene with money she has fun. well, that's how he plays people, nastasya filippovna cruel with men scoffs. unfortunately, everyone perceives 100,000 as 100,000. and that's several million.