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hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shkaplerov, this is a podcast of space stories. today we will talk about space experiments that are carried out on astronauts at the stage of preparing for a space flight during its flight to the iss and after returning to earth. i'm visiting like since the developers of these experiments, elena fomina elena is the head of a very, uh, interesting department. i'm afraid to make a mistake in the title. can you tell yourself how right and beautiful. yes? this this very beautiful name is called the physiology of human gravitational stability. you
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work at the institute of biological problems. yes, we are trying to prepare for long-distance flights to understand how to resist weightlessness and, accordingly, why it is called human gravitational stability, because, for example, we have there were three laboratories, one is engaged in weightlessness, these are the laboratories where i work and there is also a laboratory that deals with artificial gravity, that is, there are laboratories that deal with what is happening on earth, practically we see it, from very strong gravity to weightlessness we are tracing this entire spectrum. well, you have been working for more than 15 years, uh, in the mvp. e, you deal with direct astronauts, so we can say that all the astronauts who were on the iss and all wonderful. you know, he conducted his experiments on everyone, which were, which are now being carried out. well, here, if there is, which will be in the future. tell us, please,
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how did you get imbr. uh, because i know that before that you were the dean of the institute. and what prompted you to do astronautics, probably everything from childhood. everything is even further than the dean. at all. i spent all my childhood on tsiolkovsky street, the house stood on tselkovsky street, it turns out that when? there was also a little girl. the first thing i should have remembered. this adress. uh, you live on tsiolkovsky street naturally. my parents told me who tsiolkovsky was, and uh, then really. i already worked at the university faculty, called recreation rehabilitation. we dealt with highly qualified athletes and determined what psycho-physiological profile the sports elite should have in order for him to perform well later in order to prepare for the champion at the olympic games. yes, yes, and how to select it ? i'm with the best people first worked from the point of view of sports. well, i think it's professional burnout.
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i just didn't care anymore. yes, i have achieved something. e hmm yes, i'm the dean. i know how to prepare students. uh, how when to lead already before the diploma, well, she taught physiology, physiology of sports, psychophysiology, well, at some point it already becomes uninteresting. want something new. and so, well, that's how life happened. so life turned around, so i came to the institute. and i think that now i'm working with the human elite again in your department is, that uh, first of all, you monitor our physical condition. that is, since we are involved in sports, we go through certain tests on board before the flight. that is , you squeeze out of us how we can run on a treadmill, spin a bicycle, lift weights, then follow us. e during the entire flight and draw conclusions when we arrive, when you shoot already the test is correctly understood and the second. eh, i think the most significant and
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significant is, of course, the space experiment. yes, exactly which are carried out on astronauts. tell me exactly which ones there were experiments. perhaps the most interesting ones that are currently taking place. well, maybe you can tell something about the future, the best thing is we will start with you the experiments in which you participated. this is prevention. we have three main assets. this is a track. which are considered the main e in the russian system of prevention, this is a velargometer and a power simulator. i must say that the emphasis of our partners on the power simulator. they work out every day on the weight machine. we believe that the most important thing is the track, because i always say, then half moon on mars, you have to walk, and you have to keep your ability to move, uh, and keep your body upright, so they also do every day on the treadmill , they have an exercise bike, uh, every day, and then they alternate the track 1 hour is definitely
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a strength training and one hour, either this bicycle argometer, or treadmill. well, the meaning of all this is obvious in order to remind you what gravity is, as soon as you arrived in weightlessness you feel good there, by the way tell me how you feel weightlessness here is the feeling of weightlessness. well, everything is up. i remember exactly the flight, the first flight, when i arrived, was not very good . firstly, we flew in a ship for two days and only then we got to the station i had a feeling of motion sickness. well, i didn’t feel sick, well, here’s the motion sickness, that is, such a condition, as if the body shook you sick. well, it doesn’t vomit , at least it was after the arrival in the first flight, but i remember exactly in the fourth field, when i flew, i didn’t have any adaptation at all. that is, i have the feeling that i hmm fell into the same environment or in in general, i did not feel any change. that is, i immediately began to tumble and move as i wanted when
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i got to the station. well, first of all, they flew. we are much faster than 3 hours. secondly, apparently already an organism. uh, i understood what was happening, although these internal yes physiological changes. uh, in any case, when a person falls into weightlessness, that is, in our case , gravity disappears and the body cannot. like a click to say, this is weightlessness space let's. work coco no it keeps on the same the body works correctly, as on earth under the influence of gravity, so there are these changes. and the most important thing. this is the redistribution of blood in the body. well, i felt somehow, but it was no longer painful and not hard in any way, so here it is for training and experience. he told, yes, the most interesting thing is that we even made such publications, what do you need to understand here? for example, if we are going to send to mars, we need to send a person for whom the experience of adaptation is already weightless familiar, or, uh, take a person, who has never flown before and send him, but i still think that you need to take a person
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who is familiar with weightlessness, firstly, he will enter you more easily and most likely that readaptation, probably, to the ground was easier. it was easier for you to recover after the next flight. yes, after the fourth also returned. i almost didn't feel any problems when i wasn't moving. well, i also think that it's even more important how we get there. that is, when you hit new gravity conditions. here you are under white handles met, and we will rehabilitate you here. and there it means that how easy it is to adapt to weightlessness, respectively, it will be easier to go through and readaptation to the conditions of gravity already. well, there is the martian lunar one. therefore, i still think that there is scientific evidence for this, that it is necessary to take a more experienced, astronaut, organism, which already knows how to adjust to them weight. and how then to return in the conditions of greta but in order for us to feel good, er weightlessness. we have a lot of trainers. uh,
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we are rotated in the center of the fugues on chairs and so on. here are our partners somehow from this. eh, well, not that they moved away. i think, well, maybe at the dawn of astronautics. they were doing it. now they have more, of course, the emphasis is on tablets. that is, they have the ecology in the first place. that's where is the line, what is better or to combine, for example, i think that you yourself have found the answer ski combine to eat a pill is always easier. but if the body has included in its reserves, and you are going well, then there is no need to interfere. we are so thin built system, so let it be in the first aid kit if you drank really badly, and that’s all. and if the body has turned on its mechanisms, then there is no need to interfere with it. we are talking about getting used to, but to weightlessness, and then there is a long flight, how not to forget gravity , what methods do you have. and what do you use when an astronaut is aboard the iss by far, of course, we only have our physical training here, mainly for
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future flights. uh, as tsiolkovsky said, there will probably still be an artificial gravity centrifuge, but for now. we don't have that. and in general, we can say that we are quite good at preventive measures, taking into account the fact that valery polyakov flew 438 days. it can be said that the flight is also to mars, yes , it turns out that we have a strength training machine , a track and a velargometer, and this is how we remind the body. what is gravity? how will he come back? how will you have to move again in the conditions of the earth. yes lapwing about dnt workouts. now it's just a very interesting topic for me. now there will be a short flight. i want in this short flight. uh, use lapwing use dnt training never done this before, in general, in short flights of great experiments, it’s generally different, because extremely japanese people flew to me. i didn't notice that they were doing experiments directly. here is how they are generally allowed. i was very
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glad. what we have succeeded. to make an experiment with an arab cosmonaut when there was an international such project, and we were able to examine him before during the flight. he also ran on my track, and then after we all it was a short flight. yes, now it will work fly, the belarusian girl too. i want to try adding more. uh, about dnt in-flight training. by the way, yes, how did dnt perceive training for you in general, how would we expand this negative pressure to the lower half of the body. that is, these are special pants, let's call them that, in which we fly astronauts and lace up. e such, well, rubberized fabric in my area, well, in the area, yes in the area of the e belt, and further , the air begins to be pumped out of these pants. that is, they are sealed, and it turns out that in bottom negative pressure top
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positive. well, due to the pressure drop , we begin. profit goes to the feet, that is, this is artificial gravity, it turns out right, as here we are on earth in an upright position, when we stand and it turns out that our circulatory system has to deal with this pressure drop, that is, it’s the same as with gravity and most importantly, well, first of all, the heart. i think it works pretty much the same. you can do less, yes, in fact, this is just right for the heart-sucker. i know, that these valves that we have , oh yes, that help push blood to the upper body when we are vertical, opening, closing, that's for a while. well, i don’t know, well, a long flight, they don’t atrophy, they don’t die. they just, well, i think fall asleep. yeah, well, first of all, they have to, uh, remember. what is it like to push this blood, and we do it about 2 weeks before landing and increase the time before planting, and
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the pressure drop, so that just these, well, the valves that are in our veins. uh, by the way, our partners are somehow skeptical about belong to this. well, there were astronauts with me who were happy to train before landing. the fact is that they are now making their dnt suit. that is astronauts. now, in model experiments on the ground, they are again looking at the effects of dnt training. moreover, right at 6 o'clock they hold a person with negative pressure in the lower half of the body. it is proposed to make such a sleeping bag in general, so that during sleep it would be possible to do such pressure. eh, rarefaction, the meaning is what you see when we arrive after straighten out these conditions of weightlessness. bye remained on the ground, i had to raise this blood all the time against gravity, yes , it turns out that uh, as soon as the blood went, well , in the cranial direction, we say, well, that is, uh head, uh, right away the heart no longer
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you have to work like this with a muscle pump. no need to work uh, appreciated. we have such a concept of misjudgment. i'm saying that the system of the body is made very, er, right. if it is not used, then it is not necessary, there is no such thing to support, therefore we lose without it. this is because it has already been about two liters or well, some big numbers, sort of. uh, it turns out that the blood flow to the heart is increased receptors signal a lot of blood. there's just so much to drop. and how to reset, well, right away, uh, the liquid leaves the body, then it was all felt. do you know how it happens? therefore, when we return, we even drink on purpose, well , soy supplements, that is, well, roughly speaking, straight salt. well made in the form of tablets. uh, a certain time, a certain amount, and as a commander, i always followed everything, uh. well, to all the crew members, and they were and the americans and ours, that is, everyone understood that we drink just salt, salt retains moisture, well, water in the body and thus
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else is there? now we are trying to deal with the support unloading compensator. the point is that we specially made shoes like this, where the support zones of the feet are stimulated and thus the nervous system is deceived that, as if a person walks without this shoes, yes, in which there is a special insole. i had it four zones uh special. uh, pump yes compressor, which delivers air pumps up this insole in one or another zone while uh, it turns out, imitating, as if walking, that is. we, when we walk, we start heel toe heel toe, and the same happens in these. eh, shoes. yes, and the only thing that i tried to close my eyes was to imagine that the food was not working. no, because, well, it seems to me, because only four zones need them, of course, more to do 8 16. i don’t know, of course, it ’s more difficult, but it would be more correct, but it would also be better to put strain gauges. well, that is
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sensors that can measure. with what force we press on the supports, yes and uh, just walk or run on the treadmill and the computer should remember how hard this or that part of my soles of the feet, yes, believe me then check. if i close my eyes, i will feel, if i will press on the lower part of the foot and i will feel as if i am walking, that is, it turns out. we don't bleed. we just give signals to our brain that there is gravity we are going and this will help to adapt faster or not to forget not to forget gravity, there is an assumption that if we do this at the initial stage of the flight, when all receptors too, well , it turns out that the vestibulars signal, which is not clear? what's happening? well, yes, it does. well, if physiologists return, yes , a person, we have the same er, if we are on earth, we close our eyes. we perfectly understand
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where we are. we are vertical. yes, we rotate, we go to the left, we go to the right, because we have three hemispheres, yes, in different channels. yes, yes, semi-circular for sure, well, third channels run a special liquid, there is uh, nerve endings and due to inertia. yes hmm turning the head or and so on the body fluid receptors, and with closed eyes we understand this in space. no, that's why the liquid just runs, but the signals continue to come in and it seems, when you close your eyes the first moment, and as if you are being rotated in all directions in a chair, because just the signals and the brain go. uh, and i remember the first night exactly. i may not have been, but it was definitely the first flight right away, that is, when i went to bed in first night. i closed my eyes and was in a bag, the zipped bag was tied to
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the ship's utility compartment. i closed my eyes. after some seconds there was such a feeling as if i were standing like this and my face was sharp. i'm falling i'm falling right into the floor in fear you open your eyes. right out of fear, chill ran. and you see that before you close the bag again again, and you again have these straight faces. and so scary. okay, it's scary, of course, maybe we'll somehow be able to compensate for these popular violations later, but for now, we're all the same only in the experiment we are trying to do this in order to reproduce these sensory inflows not only from the support receptors, but also from the vestibulars. hmm well, let's talk about the beauty of a space experiment. yes, uh, usually an astronaut who flies for half a year plans about 50 experiments for each. yes, i remember that before the flight you bring a special paper on which there is a list. ah, experiments. hmm there are
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points that you put for them. well, then you suggest that we choose and sign which ones we want. well i'm the kind of person i am i understand how much money was spent on me to prepare for the flight. i know how expensive the flight itself is, understands the responsibility. we don’t have a thousand cosmonauts there, a little more than a hundred in general over 60 years, therefore, well, piece goods , let’s say so. i understand that if you brought this paper of experiments, then each pigment , no matter how many points it takes, it is very important, so i. well, you remember, i don't even read what kind of experiments you are. that is, i just sign them right away, but then we ask, well, you still read it. well, like this protocol, have there been astronauts who refuse to do certain experiments? yes, and for what reason? they do tell. i don't know, he's afraid he does no, most often a person, when he flies for the first time, e signs, but agrees to everything, then they start talking. oh well, and it seems like i already
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worked for science. i have such a case, i will not name who it is? yes. here is the list, yes, uh, when i spent several hours talking specifically about prevention , telling what we need about it experiment. still, so what is it, now he will tell that whose refused everyone is wondering, why put pressure on himself in his place? yes? what is all these simulators in perm - these are all means of preventing the track. uh, velargometer, uh, shoes, and it turns out that we wanted to see what would happen if, for example, the track was removed. can we for 6 days when a person does not train on the track, but he still has a strength simulator, he still has it. uh, velargometer. turn off one device and see what happens. naturally. we we test a person before and after as we examine in the track test. that is, here you are doing a test on the track. we have a regular test
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known to you three, which is an astronaut, run with sensors. see what the heartbeat is watching. uh, we're looking at the electrocardiogram with glue on the legs. it means how the muscles work correctly, how the muscles work, how the heart works, and plus you put on a mask, we analyze the composition of the inhaled inhaled air, because when a person, here we are sitting with you now, this is the so -called aerobe. energy supply mechanisms it's all easy. we just get oxygen , we use this oxygen as a source. e. well , in order to restore our energy resources. and when you run and run faster and faster, uh, the body turns on other so-called anaerobic mechanisms. we are already starting. there is already an acid-free kind. there, there is no time to split your reserves and somehow provide you with energy. at this time, the composition of the exhaled air changes. therefore, you ran in a mask, because
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it is important for us at what point this number will increase. well yes, and besides it changes hmm uh blood lactic acid level. why would you do a lactate level test, because just uh, how much you went into these anaerobic mechanisms, the more lactate you have accumulated and, accordingly, we can say that uh in weightless conditions. by the way, what results have we got. from prevention because you are running here in mm in active mode, even when you run 15 km / h on a treadmill, when the treadmill itself runs, it works with a motor. well, as usual, yes, because we have two modes are active and thanks, the active track itself runs. roughly speaking, we accompany her yes, running, well, like ordinary fitness. e hall. but, uh, passively. this is when the treadmill
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stops and we need to push it with the efforts of our legs. yes, and i wanted to say that there is one astronaut. which during the entire flight ran only in the passive. yes, and uh, i must say that uh, this is an astronaut who used to fly on the world. and he said that i know it works. it definitely works. and i'll be better i'll train like that. and it's definitely me well, i'll come later, so the results of the prevention experiment are such that we still need to include the passive mode in the test. that is, now we have even worked out new ones on the ground. uh, new test protocol. but now the main thing for us is to take tests for long-distance flights, because when we assume that we are going to the surface of mars, for example, yes, we must land during the flight. uh, to evaluate the performance and predict whether this crew member is ready
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for the exit, and what needs to be corrected? uh, gotta whether to us eh well, do not know how to change the workout. or maybe in general. from the crew members , you can choose this one to go to mars. and this one . better let him stay, uh, in the ship, because, uh, as it is now, according to modern scenarios, it is very important. as far as hmm, these first hours are the first hours that you get, well, a person will get to the surface of mars, to what extent he will have a level of working capacity, to what extent he will be able to perform all these work operations, therefore from a banal landing. yes , this lander, which will need to be someone to manage, but i think, how can the exit to the surface begin to work as soon as possible. yes, there must be some kind of batteries included. all this was discussed, that this is literally a matter of the first hours. that is why we are now a constellation and are doing an experiment.
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what kind of experiment is this constellation experiment, which was generally conceived back then, krikalev was uh, the head of the center ivanovich with him and boris marukov, that is, it turns out two cosmonauts and scientists came up with this experiment in a spacesuit with a signboard we are doing lunar and the martian signboard, but now understandable lunar one, is mainly hung up and due to the suspension, gravity is done yes, and we look at the work operations that you can perform. uh, right after the flight. this is what an astronaut after half a year arrives literally there the next day. yes, he enters the spacesuit and begins to carry out this experiment. yes, plus there is, uh, a centrifuge, that is, it drives it, yes, they check how it reacts . yes and the next stage
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is the flight. it's the landing. and in general, i think it's very interesting to us. they do too. they have. m-m such an experiment leaving the capsule, but they have the capsule. it’s just that they are building such a structure, as if it were a mock-up capsule, and based on these experiments, they also determine what strength a person should have in order to be able to perform a work operation, but now i was in houston, they brought this structure. i, naturally. i want to try. well, everything fell apart for them, even under me everything fell apart, well, they will probably finalize it, but i think that we have made more interesting, because we have it all right somehow. yes, of course it's not easy. well, understand, hmm the need for such an experiment, it is the future. yes, that's why we, of course, do it, it's very important that we, er, petya did all this. you, after six months , i flew you for a year, and this was the first flight, sleep, in fact, it was everything. well
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, i would say we didn't really know. uh, how can he or not. for me. it was a complete delight that after a year he completed everything that he did and the constellation and he prevented completed in a week. consider, after an annual flight, a person ran 15 km / h along the track. i think that this is the best indicator that we led him well, that you really observed correctly and gave him good recommendations. channel one, with the support of the state corporation roscosmos, is holding a unique campaign. all. you just go to the cinema for a movie from june 28 to july 30. send your ticket along with contact information to the website 1tv.ru. if you've seen the movie before and still have your ticket. you are in too, lucky 20 will have the opportunity to visit the cosmonaut training center in star city. and the five
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out of tinkoff city services and free maintenance of tinkoff pro cards your new status subscribe to tinkoff pro and get the first month for free tinkoff he's the only one we continue the conversation about the experiment, which is put on us by the cosmonauts of the fomina universe. and at what stage do you connect to the astronaut? here, at its preparation, at first the training center selected you and prepares you, then at some point specialists from the institute come to conduct tests. in particular, the m3 tests, which are regular, even if there is no experiment, we still conduct this test here in order to in order to evaluate the performance of an object on a treadmill during the flight , within 11 minutes of these indicators, to see
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how our body is already a system. yes, for now , of course, we are only looking at the heart, but i must say that the americans are going to ensure that gas analysis turns out to be done only in an experiment. and they already have it regularly during the flight. they don't do trail bikes on bikes, but they do with gas analysis. uh. this is also very valuable information. so it turns out that petya will return to petya yes, he, after an annual flight, could complete the entire constellation plus. eh, in flight , we arranged for him in prophylaxis such a regimen that no one had done before for two weeks. he didn’t run on the track, he only had a bike and only a weight machine and, to be honest, when i reported there were people who said, no , this is dangerous. i say, well, a one-year flight. yes, we will have time to restore it, then nothing to try. here, in this sense
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, of course, petya well done that he agreed that everything went well and in general, it turned out that our working capacity did not decrease so much and it turns out that we now understand whether we can during, for example, a flight to mars, but you are tired of the same choice all the time , that is, the road is a great strength simulator. that is, it turns out that you can, well, for 10 days, for example, do not do it and you can relax during this time, and then run on the track again with pleasure, but that was all that there were some places. thank god it's not. i think that we are working to ensure that everything is regular, in general, the experiments took place regularly. well, it happens, well, you probably know yourself with us who is there some kind of contact? no. oh, well, this is a periodically treadmill, and and here i am on zhory well, of course, the american powerhouse , it is always always controlled. eh,
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at some point. well, if something breaks, of course, by the way, they have now done it. so protocols will be directly loaded on the power simulator and we are fighting to ensure that it is the same for our cosmonauts, that you work in the same mode as the astronauts, so that all protocols are automatically loaded from the ground. well, there is a program like engaged automatically you received the information. how many did and so on in time by weight and so on. well, you know, we write letters to you every week, where we did freebies, where we, on the contrary , did a lot, but you know what a dream. we want here is one of the experiments that i want to do is called a virtual trainer. the point is that we will analyze how the state of e physiological systems changes in response to the load after the training effects defined there and with the help of
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artificial intelligence, so that you the next training program was already given out by this virtual trainer, so that you, uh, well, now we will redo it together with mathematics and analyze it. how did they work for three days and how is the next 3 days , how should you train? well, while it's at the beginning of the journey, but i hope we made it. i know that you are well from you. at least it depends on your department's clearance. uh, on a spacewalk. well, before my exits. i passed the tests. here are what tests and how do you conduct them? well, uh, don't only i have a lot of people there, everyone answers, because not ship activity is probably, well, such an operation that is very responsible and, of course, everyone is in it. eh, they are very sensitive about the exit. here is this test for manual ergometry, when a person does not perform with his feet, pedals with his hands on a bicycle. we must evaluate the strength of the hands,
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because during the ship's activities. you basically hold on with your hands. yes, and now it’s good that we still have a power simulator , can we? with the help of a power simulator, too, hands train, respectively, so that you are ready for non-ship activities, but this test, uh, manual velometry, the so-called mo-6, which we have a regular test, just the results of this test are the basis that we allow, well, we sign conclusion, permission to exit or not permission, but in my practice , not a single astronaut ever happened. so, according to the results of the test, they said, we still need to practice. and take another test. this is how it happened, but it never happened in such a way that someone would endure the exit there, thank god we are all fine with our cosmos. ah. i had to work, uh, with american astronauts. yes, i actually have the first one. uh, let's say so. first time. i went to zvezdnaya. it was gena
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and michael bard. that is, it turns out that i immediately saw both the astronauts and the astronaut not together, then they were going to fly, but also about the nostrans, i remember telling you when i was in japan, i met with your brother and you get space with a space brother. yes, she came to japan, he says, you know antonovka, i know, he is mine. brother. so you are my sister. it is clear you and i were born, through now we are making a movement, towards our new e russian orbital station grew. uh, of course, experiments are being laid that will be performed in order to make the interior, well, i don’t know, uh equipment it is under the experiments. what kind of experiments will be at our new station? i want the simulators to be better in accordance with our
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level of modern technology. plus, of course, experiments. i want those same shoes. for example, i would like to it wasn't easy there. uh, walking or running. but just running, for example, on the grass or running there on a rug, so that it was completely different sensations , you can add virtual reality so that you are erochki yes viorochki and so that you don’t just run and watch a movie so that it seems to you that you are running, for example , in your park in some city that you have yes, yes, well, now there are such ideas, and anyway, of course, there will also be experiments on prevention, but there is something else we are approaching. in general, to to what will be in interplanetary flights, and this is the scientific value of such a station, that it will be in it differently than iss a through e orbit through the poles. well, let 's imagine what a person will do in space in 50 years. in general, i am such a person that
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i actually think that the moon will have already been mastered by this time, there will be space settlements there at that time. and i think that they will start from the moon even further, uh, ships towards mars or maybe they will still find life somewhere and it turns out that not only mars and even further we have even now , next year will be. such a symposium is called, uh, at which i conceived a section. uh, interdisciplinary invited physicists , invited architects so that we can look from all sides, it turns out that biologists will say their own. uh, the doctors will say theirs , architects should think about what these houses will be on the moon. how can we hide from radiation? how can we live in conditions of reduced gravity, but physicists will tell us what is there in particular? there is also another factor
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