body nutrition certainly needs to be good nutrition, but on the other hand. again, as astronauts, we could not take very heavy food, so we took freeze-dried food dehydrated, but there is enough water in antarctica. well, the main thing is to take fuel with you. and this is one of the characteristics of water. uh, we had liquid water just the same. that is, in the morning we heated water with the help of burners, quickly poured out quickly prepared food , quickly poured out for ourselves, and thermoses are hot and barely burning, because if you take hot food and you stay somewhere, then after 15 minutes it all turns into an icicle, well , the traditional question is about the toilet in such conditions, and antarctica is also interesting because, and according to the international agreement, nothing can be left there. that is, everything that you brought there. everything must be brought from there, including, of course, all

the products of life with a person, so we can say that we brought the toilet with us. here, at a minimum, that is, all this was packed and then taken to the base, where it was all packed in special containers. as we went out, a separate tent was to us. i had to build. uh, if that's the case, we had to build a stone toilet. stone, that is, no, not from ice from ice. it would be very cool, probably, but there was a stone ridge nearby, marina and we dragged several hundred kilograms. probably, if not the tone, uh, they built structures that protected completely from the wind, because the wind is still in antarctica, uh, even if there is no such powerful one during the day, then it always is. there is such a katabatic wind, it is a wind that blows from the side poles, it always blows in the evening when the cold air comes in, and now, well, to the toilet.

it was very fast walking. now technology to people is still a difficult team. someone is a scientist. you are an astronaut. you are all different, and you, uh, live for a week, gathered in one small tent, how not to quarrel, not to quarrel, not to go crazy at all, because there is also always around. well, first of all, you need to get to know each other. in advance of course we got acquainted. not already there. we met in advance and we had training camps in elbrus, because all participants must were to understand what they would face, what is snow ice? well, fortunately, everyone knew what snow, ice, something like mountaineering. well , probably, only here we have up to nizkovich, he did not participate in climbing activities, but nevertheless, as a geologist. he knew perfectly well what a field camp and work is far from civilization. these are conditions, namely relationships. still, all people are different in different

roles, how to negotiate in the first place, as in space, you need to know exactly the same approach. why did you go there, if there went to get new knowledge for and in order to bring some kind of result , every time you do your job, remember that you are working for a common result, that the task is not easy. that's how a tourist has a task for a tourist. to go and see for yourself and return, and the team’s task is to bring the result common to everyone, therefore, when you work as a team , you must remember that team goals are understandable, therefore, they teach even at school, roughly speaking, well, here, after all, living people very closed in one space. well, we were lucky we were lucky, because all the participants turned out to be just excellent people, very mowing, everyone turned out to be very interesting. all the people who went to the antarda of their own free will and made every effort. to do this, they all

love adventure. you understand that a person who is afraid or does not like adventure. he will never go instead with uh, extreme conditions. and yet here is here to be honest with myself to admit. now, if everything is the same, the same is good for world knowledge. it would be possible to bring no drops or an extreme place to you and these people would be interested, right? it seems to me that this is impossible. well, as we are already less and less space here antarctica space is already in siberia already such that it is already possible to board a helicopter and get most of the points land in a new way, including remote places and here places with e, difficult conditions that require such people who are ready, and take a risk to go somewhere and

gain new knowledge. on earth there are plenty of such places in the north. this is the depth of the oceans. i don't think there is enough money in the plans. eh, somewhere a noble padin. there is not yet somewhere else, not yet, but i do not know what will happen next. this is also the whole cosmos, there is a huge underground world. there are speleologists going to the caves. i have already been, but i'm still happy . probably this is also my own world, which speleologists explore. it is insanely interesting with its features, but it is impossible to get knowledge without going to such places, and therefore people who are inquisitive on the one hand, any scientist, inquisitive person who loves adventure. he is an inquisitive curiosity. it's in our genes to try to find out what's around the corner. and to know, personally, i am sure that scientists who use the knowledge that we have brought them. they would love to.

maybe they would have gone, but to antarctica and into space, if their health had allowed them, or it would not have been so dangerous and scary. how valuable is this knowledge? here, a lot meteorite, did you manage to get it? ah, we brought it. uh, a very interesting sample that ruslan kolonin found, and initially we were almost sure that it was a meteorite, but for this it was necessary to conduct a lot of research, and we brought this sample to the ural federal university. research was also carried out at kazan federal university on equipment on a complex one, and so it turned out that it was not possible to reliably confirm that it was a meteorite, because there are no samples with which to compare there are no similar ones, but scientists could not say what kind of terrestrial breed it belongs to. that is, uh, it turns out that this is a sample of zavis and this is also very interesting. it's like a fairy tale when visiting. i don’t know how to look for

meteorites in general. there marina marina is a pile of bulk stones that the glacier dragged from all over the continent. that's it, uh, the most interesting thing. the glacier collects everything that it meets in motion, including everything that falls on it from above, reaching a certain point. he brings it all to the surface. well we can sittin' arenas look. we have the suburbs anywhere here . how to find meteorites there is necessary to look for what they look like, which is there in abundance. hmm you need to come to the place to fly to the place. and er take a close look at who we are. what material is there on site? what the arena consists of and for those who have never done it. it's generally difficult. but how do you find a meteorite when you don't know what it looks like? then you get used to the breed that is. and after a while you begin to notice with your eyes what is not like

on most of the stones they tried to create a robot that would analyze visually , they tried to create devices that would use a magnetic field to determine where the meteorite was, but it turned out to be a by analysis. works, what is better than the human eye there is no tool the human eye and the advantages of the analytical abilities of the brain - this is the best most effective way to find a meteorite, but this is not today, after all, artificial intelligence is jumping, then. yes, and you have no fear of robots that you will not be needed, because it is still easier to send to antarctica into space. deep ocean some kind of iron machine, first, not so sorry. we do so and the robot is needed, where, uh, at the moment we use it where there are routine operations. well, in order not to waste human time, or where it is extremely dangerous for a person, not in general, what will refuse such people who

have prepared dangerous places that they will not need. i think that there will be some kind of symbiosis here, because a person because of his curiosity. never turn down the opportunity to go where he is never was. well, after all, robots are not much faster than you and i, aren't there? here are the fears that you will not need your skills that give the task of the rover, because when the rover explores the surface of mars, it performs, uh, a certain algorithm laid down from the ground and these algorithms are they, but they are created with the help of scientists geologists, including hemomorphologists, everyone who explores mars and i, when talking with one of the scientists, he said, if there was, uh, a geologist, he would have done everything that the rover did in a year, probably , completed in three weeks, it’s clear, it’s clear that

now compared to the rover, that's better, but literally in 5 years. here i am. as a journalist, i thought that i was cool nonetheless. i can quickly rewrite any text now this same gpt chat takes instead of me , comes up with edits and does split seconds a year ago there was no such advanced. you are not afraid that robots will appear in your area, which will better take samples from mars . feels the magnetic field finer. it determines iron meteorites in antarctica and, most importantly, if anything happens to them. yes, of course it's expensive. well, it's kind of a pity, right, but for me it is very difficult now to limit e. and those fields where the robot is useless in this regard, because there are still such fields, but still robots in this regard. they, uh, help us. doesn't compete, i would say, that is, they do, they help to do some work

more efficiently. this means that we must take on the work that the robot cannot yet do corny. this is like an example from a dishwasher, because she washes dishes better than we do, but we don’t worry about this and use these benefits, but no less fear. this is the case for people and creative professions and people who are engaged in analytics. and that they will remain not the lot of some profession, in the end, as with the technical revolution, some professions may disappear. i mean about your professions. well, then you can ask a question. and how to send the robot to that place of the initial data, which is not there, and make it work there. no, wait, in space, there is one. well, one of the most obvious goals is landing on mars. why risk it? humans, when can a more advanced robot be sent there? the thing is, eh? well, maybe you can. then it can be an advanced robot, there now hypothetically reasoning is omitted.

well, i have everything, as i understand it, the uh project will do what we came up with here in a comfortable chair in a comfortable chair and based on our conclusions that we made here, and not on the spot. i remind you of the schrödinger code podcast and i am its host grigory tarasevich , along with my co-host cat bar. well and we have a wonderful guest hero of russia pilot cosmonaut sergei kut sverchkov how do you see yourself in the future? here you will continue to perform feats and getting adventures. i believe that there are adventures in the life of each of us in one way or another, and the most important thing is to approach them responsibly, that is, cosmonauts and scientists who go on polar expeditions are not the people who can be called adventurers. and we always think through all the steps we try to think through, of course there is a degree

of uncertainty, there is always a plan b and if plan b won't work, there should be a price plan , at least a plan, how to get home. everyone, uh, people who can be called travelers and, uh, lovers, adventures of any kind have it. adventure has excitement to search for meteorites. you will find lucky with the weather unlucky with the weather. well , even if we're not lucky, we're still ready for plan b, or maybe an adventure without -35 e space cold. e meteorites behold the chair and think, here is his thought the courage to switch. i think so, if you do analytical work and come across thoughts. but what if, that is, to ask such a question, to which there is no obvious answer and which involves several options for hypothetical solutions. that is, a puzzle, a puzzle is a mental adventure , it is azat learned frequencies people who

come across some kind of solution. ah, in hard work in mental work and these decisions. and they try to test a true hypothesis, an incorrect hypothesis. it's also an adventure, because when you check something, you may come across something unpredictable, but in general all these adventures they are more needed. to whom the hero himself, who floats flies and so on. i think it's mutual. why because, and there are people who love adventures and there are people who don't really like adventures but they need to get some data, are these people going to be just astronauts or are they workers? the polar stations of the antarctic they say we are ready to set off. to distant lands they are told, you should not just go. you should still enjoy the bring. well, in fact, they all want and

astronauts. glades themselves want to bring them benefit, so it's a symbiosis. e man. again, returning first is a person who does not like adventure. he will never go there, and certainly everyone loves to read about adventures. even those who are afraid to go somewhere. why because he himself seems to be turning into a hero. and why are there so few people who read faithful and other adventure authors so few get into the cosmonauts or antarctica that stops people for fear of lack of money , it can be a fear of banality, it can be self-doubt. well, maybe a person can i definitely can't think. and he won’t even try to do this, by the way, the secret lies, not having time for very many. ah. it could also be health. those who try. they cannot, according to some formal signs , receive education, they want a person's health. to try, but he does not have the necessary qualities in order to formally go into space, or to the antarctic station, it may be

there, probably, domestic reasons, and financial ones can generally be on adventures. well, not something to be golden, at least to detain the family. i know, that i am absolutely sure, and based on my communication with, e, polar explorers and astronauts, that the people who go on these tactical space expeditions are people who definitely do not go there for money. well, seventy does not contain emotions, astronauts. yes, participants from the artistic expedition. i think so too, yes, yes, but the risks that e are in these expeditions, and of course, they probably do not cover the finances with which they are provided well. in the sense of flying to antarctica, i went further, where, after all, your immediate plans are prepare for the next flight into space. ah, after all, space flight is a certain responsibility, and one cannot say that one can thoughtlessly rush into some expeditions, because this is a risky thing.

and the priority is more important. still preparation. e flights into space, and then, well, here you are flying to the iss in the distant future. i don't know if you're going to mars or the moon. god bless you. and what else, what kind of dreams do you have, if just dreams start up like, uh, we love, and is it actually very correct to read? and, then, of course, these are depths. and the depth of the oceans, because small studies and this and underground space. these are the poles. it is quite possible that there are some places that are less much less extreme much more interesting, and for example, i participated in an expedition to the east a few years ago. and it was an expedition to search for new e, caves of karst cavities. and uh, it's an extraordinary feeling when you uh open new completely new caves. you go there

you find traces of life cave animals some and you understand, you are the first person in general. who appeared here, who saw with his eyes before you, nobody knew about it, nobody saw it. it's an amazing feeling, even if it's a small opening, well, here we are , unfortunately, we're coming to an end. and now i want you somehow i don’t know life tips for those who watch us, how to become a participant in the adventure while bringing benefits, but a huge number of different expeditions, and in which participants are actually required. uh, i'm in the antarctic expedition got, but relatively by accident, and i had mountaineering experience. that is what was needed. it's some kind of background. but the other one needs to have some kind of background. yes, you need to have some kind of background absolutely, either a scientific background, or , that is, some kind of background, but in extreme activities, because expeditions

are always, uh, an uncomfortable place looked unsafe, i will give. through the forests through the deserts i want to bring new knowledge to the world, you can start with the simplest simple environmental participant and i, and actually participated , as an ordinary part, but, despite the fact that i have a background, this is an astronaut, but when you go on an expedition, you were on an expedition on uninhabited islands. i was, as usual, a field worker collecting samples, but this required several skills. this climber's skill is the skill of working rather with scientific equipment. that is, it was necessary to be able to take samples aseptically, all this knowledge was accumulated that i was simply offered to go on an expedition. and also, probably, everyone there is some kind of background that can come in handy in certain expeditions. but still from the point of view of the family. now, well, most people have a wife and you have two kids. you say i won't go

with you. in case i'll go. i'm not going to look for distant mountains. e. uh, the islands don't know what, how to combine it? well, agree on an answer. yes? no, i'm talking about the fact that it's always uh, well, it's not easy, because we have a family, that is, a family that you have to take care of her and be with her, but nevertheless people who go on expeditions. they without this activity. the spouse cannot live either. children. they are well aware that this person cannot sit still. well, how am i? at first it was not easy, but then my wife. i just realized that i can't let go. thanks a lot. unfortunately. it is necessary to finish with you there was a refusal. here is schrödinger and i are his lead chief at the editor of a popular science magazine. here is schloeddinger grigory tarasevich and my co-host, a very smart , calm cat in a bar. thank you thank

you sergey. hello this is a podcast, paws. my name is dmitry bag and we have a literary clue under a wonderful name. let them not speak. let them read, you can read in any situation , you can read in the evening on a sofa under a floor lamp , you need to read in a tent. you can read in space, you can read even in the theater during the intermission, if you don’t understand everything, from the first act, this is especially important, because today we have a wonderful person visiting us - this is a playwright and the director of the kolyada theater , his last name is consonant with the theater. as you well guessed. nikolai kolyada is our guest hello nikolai but dmitry here we are

discussed with you. how do these poison you? and, of course, here, uh, a lot could be attributed to you of all sorts of properties, because you are a man of orchestras - everyone knows this. you said that there would be cleaners and a cashier in the theater. well, yes, yes, i perform, well, a private theater, so i perform all some kind of commercials. uh, there is an answer. i write plays, put on plays. i'm heading to the light to figure out costumes. i even write music dmitry i'm ashamed to admit it. well the truth is, think off the good life. well, write covers, yes , plays, see for yourself. uh, in the sense of their paris no, i can't watch concerts. here are the conservatories that have already been made. i love to rehearse. this is to indulge. you will come to the process and laugh with the artists. let's do it. let's do it this way in childhood from my mother's curtain sticks. let's make a theatre. let's do something fun. but when the viewer sits down, he complains already ready to experience. so this is the public. not boring, because you want to jump out onto the stage from the yelling

fire of the curtain. if you want to remove all the artists so that everything is already they do everything wrong so how is the rehearsal everything right not everything, they want everything. it just seems to be the audience. in general , i take it easy. and they start beating me like that . i then just sleep. i can for- why do i need these nerves? that is, i made a play, they go on 15-17. i have king lear going there for 14 years. i play the king, the lyre. hamlet is coming. uh, i play those gypsies. it's 12 years old. well, there are performances for many, many, or what will i watch them and they know what a person who has been playing a shadow for many years knows his business. is it definitely yes? yes, yes, yes, yes, that's all, if all with all your heart and you listen to listen to you my duty, and then take revenge when you hear everything. i am the spirit of your own father. she is condemned to wander for some time. i remember, of course, to be not to be. uh, that's

the question. worthy to bow. oh, resistance is the worst. this is the worst thing about mortality. yes, yes, and no one returned from there. again, feelings are removed and the most terrible words there are such that to be a mockery of those who are not fit and she laughs at you, scoundrels and people who are not worthy of you, these are the most terrible words. and then you turned aha with your eyes into the soul and there is not everywhere inside, and in the soul there are five different translations of parsnip, he turned his eyes with pupils into the soul and there is a spot everywhere that says gertrud hammed. or when he says he knows, yes? why did his beloved father die, and her beloved husband. what do you think, what are we doing now? what are we talking about literature or theater at the moment, just chatting chatting. yes, maybe about the most disturbing works of hamlet's four

captains. yes, the last line. what silence or all other silence is otherwise terrible, when oleg yagodny is my artist, he reads a monologue, to be or not to be, and every time i stand behind the scenes. when he starts screaming to be or not to be? that's the question, i 'll tell you the truth. i'm in tears because he makes them grand in the first place. secondly, there is some text, but, why? and why live when everything is solved, all our problems are solved by blows, wait with a dagger. that 's all oleg yagdteryevna, a completely legendary actor. who doesn't know, yes, that's true, but uh, does this text need to be performed? there is a german concept drama climbs, that is, drama for reading. it's all there in the text. imagine i'm talking. i tell you and those who hear us that hamlet, who loved his father, knows for sure. eh, who is responsible for death? is it easy for him to kill a person? yes, easily polonium rats here once through the park,

for example rats and then all over the castle. he just wants to kill a person. well, or him playing the role of a madman, but it doesn't matter. here instead of going and killing. my god. how gullible he is. and here what kind of dreams will he dream of a deadly dream, and here it is necessary to kill or not to kill the monologue, by the way, here to be or not to be, i rearranged it in the second act, because in the first act , for no reason, he walks at all, he walks saying to be or not to be, and i put it in the second action, when he says, poor her or you lay out some kind of cross from these bones in the cemetery and then says to be or not to be. that's the question, because when we were rehearsing, yagodin asked, why did he suddenly start the first act? no, the reason already immediately says what i'm talking about. why live? then? everything is possible in the second action is very logical. all. goodbye shakespeare. i don't simplify. yes, it seems to me, and what is there such logic, there is no logic there. tolstoy, gorky gogol, you know our great

ones, you know, all the billions walk around. nikolai there is enough space. i understood everything. remember what i'm saying. e tolstoy in czech, and he spoke, approximately. so, well, shakespeare is a barbarian, of course, your play is even worse. yes? yes, they say he is shakespeare the barbarian. well, chekhov, i must tell the truth, boring plays, but we will discuss this too, especially since i will read today the beginning of the cherry orchard in my execution, because the train of the word is still ahead. well, you know, there's no way we can start the play. and how, like a pirandelle, in six characters in search of an author, when everyone knocks with hammers, and then the audience understands that the play is already underway. that's how we have nikolai carols. today the plays are already on. and my first question. i'm not like you can not ask, but the question was. well, such a traditional one in general, how did you come to a life like this, how did it all turn out? yes, now you are nikolai kolya, yes, whose last name miraculously means his

his life's profession was caroling carols. yes, yes, this is a whole tradition, how did it all work out? how it all began. finally. i this question you director of theater and time money and money money money. and here is your essence. 70 people they need to be fed, they need a salary, and all the time it worries me terribly, because i can’t be indebted to anyone i start to itch if i owe someone, well, here’s my sister faith has no money, again she laughs and says, how much are you, just like ours, baby or is it? and grandfather all the time said a penny panic. misha beat me nothing, i didn’t demand anything, the tilks were pennies, and the family was 10 people, with my grandfather. there were 10 children. he worked as a carpenter , did, only one began to carol. well, yes, then my dad was one of those ten children. and i, well, i don't know, when i was 15 years old. i

went to the city, sverdlovsk entered the theater school. well, initially yes, from kazakhstan, yes, yes, the whole land and the village are called fresh gorky, and everyone laughs like that. what's the name? well, from the surname i was lucky from the name, maybe in the village, not that. with it does not have gorky, our life. well, well, but how many uh there are graduates in theatrical universities but there are thousands of them, yes, and seventy thousand. i am almost 20 years old. i serve in one of these educational institutions at a school in the moscow art theater studio , which i love endlessly, and now, well, not every graduate has a theater that is directly named ivanov theater, petrov theater by his last name. well, how did the old drama of people happen, yes, how do you understand that? here's what happened to me, i think. i also think so, from what i have. i just fell in love

with the theater at some point infinite when i came from the village from the villages to some performance at the sverdlovsk academic drama theater and so it started to open like this slowly, slowly slowly, and there were some kind of scenery people and for me this is a fairy tale that's when the curtain always opens in the theater or rises or whatever, she stayed for a century for me, apart from the theater there is nothing in life. that's probably why i started writing later. if you put on a performance, then i don’t know my own theater, well, somehow love builds everything, love builds, you know destroys, they say so it's absolutely true.