[000:00:00;00] they need to be fed, they need a salary, and all the time it worries me terribly, because i can’t be indebted to anyone i start to itch if i owe someone, well, here’s my sister. no money, again she laughs and says, how much are you, just like ours, baby or yes? and grandfather all the time said panicles pennies. they didn't beat me anymore. i don't demand anything. tilka had a penny, and the family was 10 people, with his grandfather. there were 10 children. he worked as a carpenter . well, only one began to carol, then there was my dad, he was one of these ten children. and i, well, i don't know, when i was 15 years old. i went to the city, sverdlovsk entered the new theater school yes , they give land from kazakhstan and the village is called fresh gorky. that's how he laughs. what's the name? well, from the surname, it’s lucky from the name, maybe in the village, not that, it’s insipid, there is no

gorky, our life. well, well, but how many uh there are graduates of theatrical universities but there are thousands of them, yes, and seventy thousand. i am almost 20 years old. i serve in one of these educational institutions at a school in the moscow art theater studio which i love u endlessly, and now, well, not every graduate has a theater that is named ivanov theater directly by his last name. petrov theatre. well , somehow it turned out to be an old drama. everything, like people was great, as you understand? here's what happened to me, i think. i also think so, from what i have. i just fell in love with the theater at some point, endless, when i came from the village from the villages to some performance at the sverdlovsk academic drama theater and so the curtain began to open slowly, slowly slowly, and there stood some scenery people and for me this is it. eh, fairy tale. so, when does the curtain always open in the theater or does it rise?

she also remained forever for me, except for the theater there is nothing in life. maybe that's why he started writing plays. it's time to put on a play, then i don't know my own theater, well, somehow love itself builds, love builds, look destroys, they say it's true, it's absolutely true, but i had a provocation prepared, but even behind the scenes i realized that with you some kind of provocation will be easy for you, but look, it is customary from theatrical to theatrical people to say that the dates of life. i can't live without him i will play when i am 80 years old 90 years old. this is so, understandable. and i love theater too. yes , but still, some of those who are listening to us now, after all, he hmm belongs to those who can be annoyed by this. well, as football fans come together and say bones kairat yes and buttermilk korzh in the sixty-seventh year, left- back petrov, oh, honored artists. here he played what the people are, well, an ordinary person.

and he remembers, besides this, after all , except for the corporate unity of falling in love, that life ends when the stage begins, yes, that is, no, well, they say according to statistics that 3% of the population goes to the theater. here comes no more. uh, those who let them not speak will find it necessary to force them to beat and go to the theatre. yes, no, why does he go to the theater? here you will take us to the stage to bow. when you go out, do you see that they are sitting in the theater? sorry for that rude word from my aunt. they tell me who is the hero of our time , aunts. that's who saves us my theater, who saves an aunt forty-fifty-five years old, they buy tickets, they come to the performance. why do they come husband drunk? this is your book, we are talking, of course, where we drank ourselves. yes, yes it is, well , here comes my aunt. here, i'm signing programs for a trip. i say, where are your men, and at home he watches football on the couch they didn’t bring anything and pull it out by accident, yes, yes.

another psycho. no, the defender of the kairat team or is it an asset? that's what you say or spartak uh, and the other remembers the honored artist petrov in the role. i already remember that in such a year i will sing the great artist elena nikolaevna as the bliss of my desire. mom dear. i looked 50 times. well, it doesn't matter the other way. i talked about who fills the halls and who goes to the theater, mostly these women go here, and they save us and god grant them health, i really like it, well, they come. why for beautiful love. they want it if the poster says romeo and juliet the whole city runs no matter. this avant-garde is also at least some novel lives, everyone knows there, well, love, but they die after all, so what? but there will be love. god bless all these women, because they bring flowers, they bring chocolates, they love artists, they love. it's all the same they

are building something in their souls there, i don't know. sometimes , you know, it fits and, uh, i sign, there are programs for good, health, and so what you asked the man there. a yes she says, you write, i say, and the peasant passes. in a month. you know several times there was no comes and says there was elk says, you understood that nikolai kolyada from the wonderworker well how correct what kolya is, yes, it’s good with us. e, koledatel, i'm trying to imitate, you'll see. well, i have a different impression. hmm, in moscow we have in moscow. it's fashionable, it's cool. the mass of young people now is still about sverdlovsk, yekaterinburg, what kind of cultural center is this? so you got him to me, in general, young, apparently, age. yes and that's where dmitry as you are told, the boarding house explosions are so beautiful. yes, in the eighties , rockincial dances were formed in our country. rock learned pompilius, pompilius, we got artists, many

famous. and balabanov appeared , the ural dramaturgy appeared. that's what i'm involved in, in fact, i made a lot of students. why did it happen? why i don’t know, but all the roots are from there. here. if you take it for 30 years or more , everything goes and develops and moves from there. from what i don't know. and how did it happen that i began to produce one after another at the theater institute of the city of yekaterinburg, and not a single playwright was a playwright. elite, institute for 30 years. here, it looks like something . name no one released. i love whether it is an institution. god forbid, and health, i myself studied there, but in the eighty-ninth year. i have finished since then not a single playwright. i don't remember there. where did dramaturgy come from? it's a very crafty profession. it's kind of a nest. yes, these are some kind of roots, this is some kind of faith, which means that there is something in moscow . no dmitry asphalt, but there is none. you see, some kind of black earth with roots. why go beyond paphos, but it's true, i still, uh,

lived for 7 years in siberia, so i'm not talking about well, you're going some kind of black soil. this is an industrial city. children are not from yekaterinburg, children there and who come to me to study, but burst hard, you know such cities, kamensk-uralsk, artyomov, these are industrial cities that come together. so they know life firsthand, something different than nourished by some. maybe she was unexpected at some other slightly non-fictional institute, too, uh, muscovites. we won’t compare at all, but still, yekaterinburg is something special. we have a museum worker. who knows who reshetnikov is nobody knows here everything is forgotten. we have a writer the second plan in russia, yes, but my mother's back is also considered, as it were, well, also the second nargisovich, but reshetnikov's name, like dostoevsky, is already a lot. well, yes, he is fyodor mikhailovich well, look, uh, i have a hypothesis. why were they forgotten? the fact is that in soviet times it was believed that the essay tradition. here it is directly carried out with the realism

of communism. to this, after e, the physiological school , dali's janitors and organ-grinders there and grigorovich immediately go. just the same, the assumption brothers nikolai well, who is their gleb artillery, novikov-surf about production on velikogo prey is a completely different situation, another another another yes, we cross it out, but i mean that the essayists of the sixties of the century before last too directly exalted the soviet era of the two uspensky brothers nikolai and gleb intestines. sleptsov yes, vladimir mikhailovich that's why they didn't get caught by herzen, they drilled chernyshevsky . so, in a word, this one too, in such a way that the ural territory is famous for its talents, which, well , as if effortlessly live, yes, black earth from the earth. they strive for success. they don't move became the capital. they don't take. he's moving fast. it gets lost very quickly. but i

always say please. don't go anywhere. stay at home and, well, ural is generally a very differentiated place. sorry for that foreign word. there are several areas. thank you but, in the sense of literature. there are very different people late makani on colpid. yes, there is a powerful ezifovich. but leonid abramovich, you all know not even. no , of course, onikhonov nikolai grigorievich what a great writer was? i've now written a play on great motives. uh, books, it vestal, wrote a play in the theater of satire sergei gazarov will have to stage hoping, because the name of a completely forgotten brilliant writer. i worked in the ural magazine for 11 years as the editor-in-chief , nikolaevich magazine came at one time. everything is absolutely small edition. uh, the library seems to be number 87 darnay yes , this is the most famous yes of the famous sasha ivanchenko was a wonderful writer. where

did you go, by the way, disappeared, comrades, let them talk and read. here is a podcast, here i am dmitry bug, the host of a literary podcast. let them not speak, let them read and visit my drama by the director of the theater collective nikolai kolyada and now our median is coming. uh, i think yes, no, we 're done. only the first part of nikolai i will read a few lines. usually i read from a book, but here is an abbreviated text. uh, with excerpts like this, it's just that it takes less time, and from the cherry orchard from boring dramaturgy. chekhov is my favorite, because with the cherry orchard i have been sleeping hugging for decades. i love this play. and so, uh, as we, of course, remember, and who does not remembers, then he will know now and immediately forever that there is very much in your motive of hearing the motive

of hearing that hears further. what is it, maybe there, not hearing the firs who speaks the day before yesterday. a tub somewhere in the mines well, in the slammed strings, finally, the most mysterious incomprehensible symbolically loaded, but here is the jewish orchestra, which is heard across the field, but it is very important that literally from the first lines this motif of heightened hearing changes absolutely everything in the reality that chekhov offers us his last play. here it starts with small ones. uh, the train came in lopakhin banknotes. thank god, what time is dunyash. soon two was extinguishing the candle already lightly lopakhin, how late the train was for two hours, at least he was yawning and stretching. and what a good fool he was

, he came here on purpose to meet at the station and suddenly overslept, sitting, fell asleep in annoyance. if only you could wake me up. i thought you left. he listens, now, it seems that lopakhin is already on the way, he listens, no, to get the luggage, then, yes. everything, how many meters are there to the station dmitry vladimirovich in the theater i saw and i will say, yes, i’m not calm, but you didn’t read it. i am very happy that we are starting a theater, but what is it, how is it staged? we know it was saying goodbye, i'll tell you it's explained, when the whole room is sleeping on these words. i'll tell you, and without a hall you should not sleep, but sit like this with pleasure, because these people. eh, what do they hear? it will remain far away. she's not in the yard. uh, domra nevskaya yes , he will get his luggage, then, yes, all uh, my father, he really

was a man. and here i am white vest yellow e shoes with pork rel in kalashny ryad. only the rich have a lot of money. and if you think about it and understand that a man leafs through a book, he read it. here is a book, i did not understand anything, i read it and fell asleep the soul of a dog. they didn’t sleep all night, they smell that the owners are coming, well , the dogs don’t even hear what they ’re walking with their noses and the infantrymen lopakhin? he listens for the fourth time and indicates to us that it seems they are coming. well, then everyone goes right across the stage, the famous baggage stage. i'll tell you how bad directors do it. wait how directed by good directors. i go to the cherry orchard. it's completely different there. yes, yes, vova is a director - this means that he listens because of chekhov. this is how the curtain opens. so, and there ku-ku-ku-ku, that is, it was. what does it mean dripping so drip. drip drip drip,

then in the buckets, talking about the ocean train peek-a-boo. ku-ku bubu, thank god, and so the whole performance is possible to die, because the whole gave what to do when you say? yes, the whole hall is doing carols together. so forward sleeps, then back. they sleep terribly. this is impossible the door opens and everyone yells, lyuba is a fair-haired spit honey cossacks. they are waiting for all the domestics waiting for her joy. she comes from paris, that's how the situation should not be played. they are bloom, bloom, bloom, you know, like bubu and that's it, will it be on the next tour? you don't suck. i don't know, but i'll definitely tell you. i have a very cheerful tester, but in the finale , a berry picker, when lopakhin really cuts such a baluster with an ax. this is how chips fly

to the last row in the center of the country so scary. so scary, lord this is fun scary. i didn’t understand, at the end it’s scary, because the audience pays money for tickets in order to cry there at the end according to the testament of the little eye. why are you laughing? yes, laugh at yourself. i understood. that's all. well, all the same, i say , i generally like it when they laugh laugh laugh later. i'm crying, so more god god, we believed him. we thought that it was kolyada the clown skobaroh, chatting something there, it turns out that my next question was just that. you all mixed it up beautifully. the next question was just, well, about style, about principles kolyada of the theatre, but now i will very sharply and sharply move it away from me, because well, chekhov is simplified by this scythe and uh, with these bari dances there is no such thing. chekhov has 7. no, look what's there, look what's in

the text before your, uh, scene. uh, in which the text does not need a soul there. now i'm going to faint, there are shovels. well, they love ranevskaya. yes , this is not a word, but for some reason i came here. yes, there dunyasha say that the infantry in the proposal did to me. eh, everything is absolutely tied up with this whole system. how we are now talking and falling all this is being done. it's interesting in the visual yes dmitry well , tell me, even my story does n't give a damn about me at all. tell me change, i'll tell you now. so you put on a skullcap and cease to be a director, as if, yes, in fact, you are a director who pays salaries and counts money. so dunyasha is the thinnest. chekhov's is that the sound reaches the ear, despite all the proposals. you will explain this, i understand the artist will tell me he

is brainwashing me. i got it, it's the best director, yes, let a couple of days in the eye. i will not say. oh my goodness, my god. i'm here doing on stage. that's the main thing that i did in any way. and what am i doing our interlocutors. uh, after uh, the end of this program, chernyshevsky changes , that is, nikolai kolyada becomes a tv presenter. i'm going to direct. this is the main result of our conversation. and now, nevertheless, explain, to such a skeptic and layman and not to the director and not to the actor, but to the person who believes that the text in general, very often they need to be performed, explain what is kolyada theater is not in the sense of an institution. and in the sense of style, everything is possible in the theater, that you , i paid in 2 seconds, i don’t need a technician, i’ll laugh. yes, this is scary, but here

you teach technology at school, a student, you know that there is technology there, there is acting. it's all possible to play an extension an event adjustment, my god, thank god, and the soul is quiet, wait, give, i say, but sincerity can never be played in the theater, either it is or it is not, goodbye. here in my theater , forgive me. read real sincerity and i achieve this, if this is not there, if this is not there and there is no sincerity, everything is everything and everything. the rest it doesn't matter, but again it was a bad word to argue with you sincerity. i've already started to get so wet and calm down, i think, well, no. we're going to meet this person now. no, let's not go. i work in the citadel of konstantin sergeevich. i adore nadezhda petrovna alamanov in the great brilliant fashion designer, and suddenly i began to write a play, but because she did not leave in the seventeenth year, she was

a supplier. ah. yes, they let me in. here, when we were on tour, in the museum of em hut, and i looked, everything connected with it was left there quite a bit. here she is, she said before she died. eh, i'm probably going to die soon. i have two drops left, even though my pieha or bitches are called. a number of jokes that he said to this book, that you're a bitch, they call sterba or two drops? yes, two drops, even though i wrote a song where she writes about stanislavsky hmm and doesn’t say, well, i came up with, i came up with, these are the worst words, because if you figure it out, here the great stanislavsky who was turned into an icon is an icon of ours again asking people dmitry exhibit imagine he wrote a book in the thirties called my life in art. now, if you're any of the actors now from

the playwrights to the directors. you would write my life in literature, what would happen to you. you understand what kind of shots flew at you, and he allowed you to do this, he considered himself to be gods during his lifetime. lord, forgive me, lord, and i didn’t write her name lamanova on posters. although she makes costumes for him and wrote. i pretend what am i for quiet. it actually rises in me absolutely not. you do not rise such a terrible anger, uh achilles, sing the living dagestan , you can’t turn it into an icon. look monsieur. see what's the matter, i repeat sincerity. if you let me finish. and what i like, what you don't give, a very bad word, because no, but sincerity. i sometimes see my wonderful talented guys on the set of tv shows. they say, so i'm only for you, so you go further. yes, i love it, no this is all according to the bed, an extension from the construction site.

uh, events and stuff. you know what konstantin sergeevich says, he says that nothing can be played. you tell me that everything can be played and i will pay. now kolyada is speaking . yes, now i jumped into levitation, i'll take care of, uh, stanislavsky, how did i do it? you see , look, it doesn't matter in terms of broadcasting to old ladies. yes it's good. yes , russian grandmothers, grandmothers, grandmothers, you said. but look what sergeevich says , my most beloved person to any horse. i love young stanislavsky and so on. he says that you won’t play a damn thing if you don’t grow it in yourself. the whole thing, therefore, is so small, maybe the actor is suspicious when he plays a lot. yes topic speak for a very long time. let's understand a little bit, i took you away and therefore no, two drops koti she is small 21 pages. read what is there, and lavanova, as i imagine, because i studied a lot of

everything that she is stanislavsky. and chekhov , that is, with whom she met, says, i understand. now let's talk, finally, about your prose, here, i'm from your own hands a few months, probably already ago. yes got it here this book is very funny. good cover. i like this carroty pleasant carotene color. these are our artists. katya kaluzhnikova, she wrote to the request. i say, draw me, katya, and my cat's bike. i found it on the concrete goods, as if we were looking out the window. here, turn uh in the window here if we're making up sad stories. yes , look, well, uh, i really liked it. maybe i'll give you such a cheap compliment. i liked it very much. it's simple and it's hmm quality and uh real. although it's strange

a compliment, because now there are a lot unfortunately, but such a good one is just easy to learn now, but you can’t teach you. and you, uh, well, from the earth from the black earth , write all this, and i'll tell you. i love chekhov the narrator. i love him and that's why you don't like the playwright. no. well, that you are the bishops of the last studio, two enemies, that's all. this is generally the cosmos is unthinkable, unthinkable something blew a wasted bottle. yes, when they were sitting there by the fire, she came up with a dead child and said, i'm not a magician, but i forgot some word when they sat down on cart and go. they're taking her, she's holding this dead baby. look, well, it's impossible. it's terrible to read. it's not just scary. this is written. simply simple, but the heart is breaking, of course. i wanted to forgive me, god be, a campaign similar to chekhov's storyteller, the second book is now coming out perfectly, called don't be

sad. i want so much that people who read books of my books or look there, how to somehow calm them down. e tell comrades everything will be fine. wait, here's how i i don’t know what will happen in the second one, but i have an hmm impression from this book. uh, that's what uh, but this uh, contrary to the dramaturgy , is absolutely not theatrical things, because there is no pointe. there is no connection there. often. yes, there is, uh, some kind of story. well, the girl saleswoman gets acquainted with some guy fedya yes, for example, and now she is making some plans , thinking about how to kiss him. but i can't. yes , all this is written with a big soul, and then it does not deceive, does not take away, does not throw, everything will be fine. i want everyone to believe that it will be good, but look at others, but in other things, and where it starts badly, everything

remains bad. yes, there, it seems to me, i just see it as such a physiological outline, because it's up to you. yes, this is fedor mikhailovich reshetnikov, right? i'm fucking yes. well, well, well , i don’t know, even more, except for the tv presenter, of course. uh, what is waiting for the eastern after today's release, what other two talents will be discovered, but uh, in addition to the director of the actor, uh , director of the theater, artistic director, muttering, cleaning lady, cashier, main ballerina, the main thing ballerina of the costume designer from the zinnograph you still, of course, uh, well, have not opened, but i have discovered for myself. and the talent of a prose writer is wonderful. well, actually, er, under completion. i 'll ask the question, which uh, actually, in my opinion, which, thank god, you completely crossed out. hmm uh was the designation of the topic

of our program. so i wanted to ask you, and the author's theater, how would it have a future. it is possible today, but our listeners ' interlocutors, of course, know that now, uh, we are in the transition from repertoire a theater that is dying creeper - to a project theater or three recognized ones or some other words that i can’t pronounce. but the author's theater of the beginning of the 20th century, whatever you take, the author's theater stanislavsky nemirovich will even say these terrible things for you. here is the komissarzhevsky there, horror and tairov well, as it were, author's author's theaters are everywhere, for which not only the purpose of the performances, but also the manner and approach, hmm, and so on. this is de boerov saying well, the soviet years, georgy alexandrovich left the great director was gone like a wolf, says roman grigorievich is leaving

leaves, disappears, or people were also the author's theatre, and ask volchek i was friends with volchek and what do you leave behind? yes, i need to puke said. eh, volchikh said, yes, what will be, will be. and what, and what is it to me , what difference does it make to me? what will happen after me, but it was and remains was the world of polt, great by the way, i respect it very much. stanislavsky was volchek was viktyuk was a tabakovite the kingdom of heaven is great, whom yes efremov people, near whom i even had to stand with some friends to talk my plays staged, that is, the author's theater is not only the theater where one person and the cleaning lady and the cashier are the directors and the artist, but any genuine theater. so, you can probably say yes, genuine sincere real with the word sincere. i'm only on 5 seconds. i will reconcile, because i think otherwise, but today in our conversation, of course, everything ends.

approximately the same as in the stories and posts of nikolai carols, that is, it ends. everything is on the route note and everything will be fine, uncle vanya , we will see the sky in almaza, we will rest and people in 300 years they will be better than we all of this we remember very well and uh, that's why uh, i wholeheartedly from the bottom of my heart i thank the playwright and so on and so forth and other future tv presenter nikolai carols for this meeting. thank you see you again. thank you dear, and i tell all our interlocutors invisible to us, as always, read with pleasure.

here's the thing, it turns out. we have not seen each other for a long time, zenit is still amazing , still the champion, and in general , there is not much going on in our football sports point. well, probably not so, because there is a good boy, by the way, i liked the zenit-locomotive match, but, on the one hand, i liked it. on the other side. there are winners and there are losers. so the loser probably needs to draw some conclusions so as not to lose, and the winner to move on. let's talk about the winners, just to reveal. hello this is a podcast. lab podcast, football and hockey. my name is not kazansky this is hegemony, well, it is clear that everything is trying to break it, but nothing happens. does it benefit russian football? what do you think, probably we will talk about the fact

that they all work even better. everyone says sorry, money is a lot. well, well, that means a lot, well, not twice as much as spartak's soviet motive is approximately. you can make the same financial amount a little more. they choose players better, probably better semak works training to set tactics and so further times they have such an advantage and nothing wrong here. i don't see, because uh in many countries so bayern how many times has the champion of psg the endless champion in england the competition is a little more in spain also only two teams are fighting. and in general, i