i have three back. i remember a moment when i asked you why you don't want to skate because you didn't want to skate for the usa i asked you why you don't want to skate for the usa and you say it because hiroshima nagasaki yes how many boyfriends do you have me though a russian partner to ride. precisely russians, because american cats go to school. this is not my style. that is, you were looking only for a russian partner. well, you had a choice. nikolaevna gave you a choice. here is. she has many partners. there is such a i would have a choice to ride, she was a little afraid of her, and sasha is kind, in fact, i

will open you, a secret. no, he did not offer the main thing. yes yes. but i also took a shower, because then it turned out for me that pair skating is such a russian, primordially russian bit of figure skating. we won all the soviet olympic games in 1964, then russian pairs, and for me it was a very dangerous step, uh, to pair up with japanese women. and do you remember, this is the first day when you took sasha smirnov by the hand. and here you are for training. yes, i came out. i remember the first day my boyfriend first day sasha manganese, when i immediately felt good felt. leave with me. it's hard for me, but somehow i had a lot. well, quickly, but rebuild, well, quietly. well, we've moved on. it was the one and only cheese to ride. sasha needs to go to the group at the same time. yes, yes

the great is very hard for me. 3 months, but he gave us a basic one. well, everything is a vase base, so thanks for that. and how did you physically move to russia, how did the move happen, that is, from japan first i moved to the usa correctly, and then, together with tamara nikolaevna, igor borisovich, when they returned from the usa to russia, you moved with them. i'm dumb, but i'm special. oh well, how could i change it very easily, and i really love learning the language, and i always dreamed of using several languages ​​there , dear, brush. well, if you don’t get a figure for skating, you want to use russian now, when you hear this to me. well, i hate a little, the joke is so offensive, but now i perceive everything with him humor. that is, you even began to understand russian jokes, yes, russian humor, well

, until now, not quite everything, but what was the most difficult thing when moving to russia here. uh, different culture, food, i don’t know, it’s cold in st. petersburg metro, which is also normal. the seat does not heat up. just a toilet and water water, it's very hard for me. i am water with water. mm became friends after 10 years another phone. it was difficult for me to call my mother on the phone and there was no international phone. where did you live? that's when you just moved sasha and then i still wanted to separately, and then if not for the room of acquaintances, there, she nikolaevna is still nothing, and then i decided to rent an apartment then this new apartment, so the phone in

the washing machine was not yet in general, there was nothing. and when i need to call, mom, i need to go outside, and stand there for an hour and call to talk to a payphone. yes, and how did your parents perceive this move to russia, they were normal about it, and if you understand what they don’t like, then they are calm. yes, they trust, there they quran is very difficult for me, because i myself moved to russia from one city to another and it was so expensive for my family. that is, these were some unrealistic financial investments. eh, who paid for all this, then you move to america, your move to russia, these rented apartments, you know, my family, not directly rich rich usually in japan, but then the difference is japanese money and they are, well, very cheap in russia. well, even everything that has been done in russia

now is generally like that. uh, so somehow they couldn't. yes, i just remember when i asked you, yuka, where do you live, and you say, a i bought an apartment. i say how you bought an apartment, and you say, because for me it was to buy an apartment in st. petersburg, something incredible in general, and i say, where did you get the money from? and you say, well, i , uh, took second place at the world junior championships. well, that i obviously take places in competitions, and i stand thinking, and i am the world champion among juniors. i can't rent an apartment. what appeals did you have ? this is money for children, but still i managed to buy when i still don’t owe me a skin she said that you cook russian cuisine well, you know how to cook borscht, but still

it turns out like japanese. and what do you eat in russia what does japanese mean? i remember that you said that there are no good japanese restaurants in russia, everything is already not really tasteless. i do not go, yes, that is, you do not love at all, that is, still not. i don't go to the restaurant very rarely. i just love to cook myself. and where do you get groceries in the entire store, so there are restrictions. he, too, can find everything that is in japan no no, so i have it just doesn't work right now. i can't tell. i'm ready to japanese yes, to cook japanese directly very restrictive yet yes , in general, my mother sent sends a class together or glad. well, yes, and now after the quarantine everything, let it be closed. she can't repeat. she pissed ours in the villages. yes, no

, seriously, no japanese, rice, just like that. and i say, no. and what is your favorite japanese dish. that's what you love most of all, for sure mom cooks the south, a russian dish, you have some kind of favorite, all sorts of different soup is still chicken smelt, but this is st. petersburg. this is if you live in st. petersburg, a cat marinated is very tasty. well, cat, i would tell you myself, i already have saliva like, that is, soups like that, yes , smelt. and why don't you like sour cream, they all turn out the same, and i'm hot. and when she's somehow not hot, i can't. i think you are my sister. i, too, have it all without sour cream. and i would also have a very hot soup

and started to love figure skating, when i carefully steers for i saw, but before that i hated to show entry into perm i tied figure skating not under the bed, and my mother dragged me by the legs and dragged me to the skating rink when you move, in general, to another country, alone without parents, without friends. how did you socialize? how did you find friends? how did you get them? or are you more of a loner? yes, a big loner, and i'm calm there, but i also do figure skating. i’m just busy with it, so i didn’t really feel that i had smoked or had never defended there, everyone grunted me when you first came to the russian national team for a test skate in novy year and you just cried, epta, and when i asked you, fork, why did you say it so sad that you feel like in prison? yes, because the fence with the wire keys was bad, there was still a repair there. now

its very changed now. because they, well, you just can’t go out and that’s it. how is that? well, how is the prison? well, that's all, then and so because of the water, very dirty black succumbed. well then, probably, it is necessary now yes, never. why are you crying because you have no friends? i say no, the water is so dirty. to me it seems that you were treated very well in our team, no matter how offended, yes, therefore, if my friends were a problem, it wasn’t only with water, but there were some situations. so, when it can be at the university or just on the street, when people met here, it seems to me that at the beginning of the 2000s it’s still a japanese woman - it’s such an unfortunate let’s say. so, they all think that i'm chinese and you want rinuko, but it pisses me off so much

when miha blinks, but they never think. you remember you give nothing. i'm so, you have two more higher educations right, and you received these two educations in russia at st. petersburg state university. you graduated in international relations. yes? this is the first education, and the second one is very interesting for you. well, it's an economy in control. it's just like that. it was too early to just spend on training. hmm, this is probably another difference between the japanese and russia, i would never have thought, if my partner has an injury, so i went to study, you know, rights rested there. you don't have a car in st. petersburg. that is

, you love not love to drive a car and you use only public transport, st. petersburg, i take it easy. but how can i not say, i do not like, but not yet. i think it's very developed. yes , here is the public transport at our end on the trains. in st. petersburg, too, now it is still convenient. i don't want to spend on the road. just stand on the cork. this annoys me. well , yes, it's hard. let's get back to sports. do you remember how you won your first russian championship and what it meant to you with me, by the way. i can remind you of this. i think it was 2008 st. petersburg, ice palace. you fell off the ejecta. your shoulder flew out and you still won against me from russia.

we are good normal normal you remember how you won, you became the champion of russia discipline, but how did i start skating, this is russia, i'm just not at home about it at all. it is necessary to think about the responsibility for steam cats in russia, right this, well, a big deal. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov and i have very interesting guests today. russian figure skater japanese descent yuka kawaguchika. here i have tanya hair heat when i won the championship of russia with you and sasha, we were already with me in saransk 2011, she was crying. she cried, how could she not cry like that at the olympics. she was crying and i say why are you crying? she says, because it was fantastic for me to win the russian championship with such rivals. and you win

well. it's not something we normally work on. yes it is. and do you remember some kind of victory for you, there is some kind of such a valuable, most valuable - this is the first and second in europe. well , especially the second one, probably, it seems that the second one is like that. yes, because yes, i think that i need to tell a little, yes, to our viewers. the fact is that she, like in agouti, with alexander smirnov, together won the european championship in 2010. uh, it's olympic year vancouver but they had to wait 5 years for the next championship. that is, you won the next european championship in 2015, yes, then i really felt that i hmm overcoming because sasha also got injured in the olympic season. yes, yes, but i also have a big problem. psychological, as they say with the elements, so they worked a lot. and so, well, even my quadruple dream, my dream

, four with a quadruple, got out, because the tenth year we are ready for a quarter, but we refused it. then, by the way, there is a question on this subject. once. you yourself spoke. i just remember how in vancouver we were together, uh, in the same team and we had a training camp. yes, training and i'm at this camp. well, you can say i gave up, because i always wanted to win you. i kept thinking that there was a chance, that there might be a chance that yes they are the first couple they have more support from the federation but i knew that if you make a mistake we will, then we can bite you. we sometimes won you anyway. there, at the finals , you were competently bypassed in the competition. yes, i still somehow believed a little, but at the moment of this training camp before the olympic i realized that there was no chance, because you were in incredible shape. sasha you did this quadruple throw. it's just so very good. and so tell why are you going to the free skate after doing a few throws

in the six-minute warm-up you gave up and vancouver yes at the olympics and you went and did only a triple with another mistake. who decided that in europe you are a hotel, she said everything. today we will go to something, that is, she tuned in to me today as an easy option. ok then. i agreed to eat. if necessary, then you need it at europe, and then everything at the olympics, she wanted just like europe and cut. after after the warm-up yet i haven't yet knew everything about us. we went out for, well, a minute of warm-up. she said, right, right, this is a triple. this is me and i don't even understand. and sasha is far away, we have some kind of general

conversation. well, general communication is heaven, direct contact is heaven then and he doesn’t know what to take and i’m so infuriated that my dream at the olympics is your fault, and she says no to the bottle. he's not pouting, damn it, and i'm just in a panic. i'm an adult. israel is so angry. i don't remember, i even forgot that it was the olympics and that's how i went. well, i arbitrarily set up my body, so now it's different. you think you were a mistake okay, well, honestly it's been a while now. yes, i think the great coaches are also mistaken, right at the last moment. it seems to me that she is but if you were if you were russian, well, with a russian upbringing completely, then you would send, nafig, there nikolaev with a weak girl, but here is your japanese discipline. yes, discipline, they directly refused to skate and it was such a shame, and this is the only

thing that she didn’t say so that i couldn’t twist right away. yes, you directly scolded after all of us. for the first time in my life, i never knew that a yulka, this smiling girl, who in general, never in my life have i heard you even raise your voice, and you directly shouted. i remember right in this, how you are right, that is, this is just a drama for you. well, yes, it's a shame that the state is so evil. i went on randomly turned out to be a triple simple triple rose. it's all under and all. i fell, but we also have some advice for jumping. it seems to me that he or well, yes, something else rolls the most and moreover, well, as if unconsciously understand. he somehow just drove by so asked. so you can see, of course, it's a shame even

the fourth place is the most offensive. this is a wooden medal. well, if well, then, how did you find the motivation to continue working to go to the games, the fourteenth year is still 4 years old. well, you know, if then they didn’t refuse, they allowed me to take the door, then i can yes, i’m ready for this. well, just such a quarry, and the way it is, eh, so we had no motivation. well, everything is a tragedy with sasha yes, when he received this phrase, because without it i could not continue to ride, that is, when sasha has an injury. uh-huh and it happened in october, i know for sure, yes, because uh, then the birthday. and what did you feel , you understood that everything is an olympic dream, it floats away from you, because it was clear that six months to recover with such an injury , and well, it was impossible to force it. at

least the doctors all said that it was impossible, but still i had it. well, that's how it is, so i continue, that is, a miracle. yes, in principle, at least the team could. well me it seems no, you found the strength to watch this at all watched in japan uh, it's just unrealistic just on the site so i would have them there no olympiad. no calm, again it's the olympic dream crashed, uh reality, but the injury this time. that is, if there is an error, maybe the coach is somewhere. e vancouver then an injury and you're still probably, i think you're going through, yes, this

moment. well, now you are calm here, probably, well, sometimes yes, at the same time, that i am not i will change my citizenship. not even the olympics. everyone thinks i'm for the olympics. i changed my citizenship. no, why did you change? i was also sure that because you need a passport to participate in the games. no , i'm at home, something is really a russian athlete, i need to participate in the olympics, but i just felt it for me. there is a thunderstorm there, little japan, she rides with her. well, so calm. she says, no, i treat everyone the same way, treating me like this, as soon as i was infected and decided to give me direct energy. that's how, well, just to him with words seriously, you directly feel that some serious responsibility is serious, and she knows it

directly kicks. and this is what i wanted , that is, although, what is she serious about, well , to train me, especially for russia, and this company is just tatyana drochinina, my beloved. well, cool, and sasha is still there, she nikolaevna. that's the teams. it's simple. well, like some kind of miracle woman. m. who has just joined us. i remind you that our guest is the famous russian figure skater of japanese origin yukati. that is, i understand correctly that for the sake of opportunity to enjoy what you do, for the sake of the burning eyes of your favorite coach. you renounced japanese citizenship stupidly. you think it's stupid. i think these are very cool words. perhaps

it is there mom, she always says, i and what is your soul. well, the rise is not what is needed or something. if he feels that there is an upsurge of some kind of xxite, then it will be choose well, then i will change this citizenship. this is, well, for me, this soul sings, so i fucked them in the face of the olympics, so passport against passport, then i felt something from me to some soul, to some japanese soul, to some kind of tears, and it hurt me . and let's explain that. when you renounce japanese citizenship , dual citizenship is prohibited, and you can get japanese back if i stay here for a long time, then i still need to goodbye to russia while there is work. and in

principle, i received this pasta russian passport so that my life would not be more interesting, because my life should be interesting, and in russia, my life is more interesting for us. and if now, well, nothing, and if you are japan somehow everything is neatly comfortable too convenient, so i want to, but after sochi, after all these twists and turns of your injuries with your vancouver sashimi, you still found the strength to return and win the european championship in the fifteenth year. who are we, who was the motivator tamara nikolaevna not let me stop? or you yourself somehow wanted to put us on a very successful program. and when i like short. well, i like the short one too. this is

my most favorite. yes, yes, that's why i just wanted to finish this program with improve. and i really like your february. somehow. i am the first time going to grew up music for the first time in my life and again, as now, as i listen to it. i start crying and i just want to express the music how i feel and i got so interested in skating before that. just beautiful. well, it's nice to ride. how did you decide to end your career? how did you end up riding? and these are very sad stories , no one has such a story. and if

it is voted, then you can calmly end, because i, well, maybe, maybe for me, because i have another achil injury and somehow again i don’t miss the season, but i just had a very skating rink, but the season is over and no one believes us anymore. i know this, but my leg is still not completely , don’t make holes at all, but still i skated straight , only forces more than something in russia they never said there. all right, your colleagues. finish right away. she said skated and hmm came out of the ice. that is, you perform at competitions, but at the russian championship , the last thing to say, the score is over, your career is over, then i will skate. you left. that is this is right here kison, edge, after the edge you are now yes, immediately dookie cut your career

is over. it's just a whisper. sasha don't line up straight, usually the first step of the sanksha board. i didn't get there. of course, i’m also famous for my statements immediately after the rental, but i still have to learn and learn emotions from tamara nikolaevna. here she is calm, but then i found out that she was still hoping that we would return again, but sasha had no emotions. he's just crazy old skating, felt. this is exactly what i felt. well, right away, and what's next, then we have it right away, that is, you started

skating in the show. now tell me about your life now, what do you live now. now, well, last year we rolled with other partners. and now i have another partner, but it hasn’t worked out with him yet, but sometimes i skate, but besides this figure, besides figure skating cores in facial massage, japanese massage. no. no, it's called chiromassase. this is spanish in st. petersburg. do you work in a clinic or like and a lot of your clientele is not quite a lot. but it's me, on the sly, i'm still working as technical specialists. by the way, i don't really dislike the trimmer. so far, i have no such desires as a coach. i can help, but i'm technically a specialist. i like.

why didn't you go back to japan, i'm nobody? and zero, especially without sasha, who knows who well, who knows for me somehow i'll be back in japan and that there's no way to be a coach there is no guy skating there, they always train in canada in general, no, i work especially. i am not yet i see. and how do you communicate with your parents now, after all, before. you could date. parents could come to you, and now it is very difficult with movement. where are you meeting? i want to go to mongoria. this is the first time in my life, because that's exactly

japan someone from this situation i'm home lately, but i have to spend time with my mother. well, that is, if you are now, uh, technical specialist, that is, you, in principle, follow figure skating. yes, try to follow. who do you think is number one in pair skating in the world right now ? russian? but because i love them cats. you're just sick. that's all, right?

we have only one mother, i just want to wish you to be happy for many, many years, it doesn’t matter in russia in japan i hope that you and i will have some other project, maybe in japan we’ll do it , we’ll go and show figure skating in japan like - it's all arranged. yes, a very interesting idea. i think we will meet. you are beautiful, smiling, fragile, wonderful, and it has always been very competitive with you. it's nice, and i've always had a lot of respect for you as an opponent. i think it's worth it. thank you. thank you for coming, we 're done. it was a very interesting conversation. our guest was a wonderful russian figure skater of japanese origin , two-time european champion, two-time bronze medalist of the world championships, participant in the vancouver olympic games in 2010 , yuka kawaguchi is the only one inimitable in the russian national team.

forever well done forever drunk i could be a river be dark water, forever young.

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forever young this was the song forever young in the podcast 20 years. later, sergei buba is our guest , babunets, seryoga hello. kostya, how glad i am to see you, i took it off my tongue. you know, right today, when i woke up in the morning and realized that today was shooting and realized that i was going to meet with you today, everything became wonderful that day, that is, they flooded right into the most wonderful impressions. you look great.

you're bored. i look, i have a little swing back and forth. ah, familiar story. yes, yes, you understand. and how do you get the swing there? well, the last time i dropped 10 kg, i decided to do it. well , relatively speaking, it’s a professional sport, i think i’ll go to the motodrome, work out and choose the most inappropriate place for this place. oh, not the most suitable place is the sochi motor track . but the time, that is, i chose the most difficult time, when the sun is at its zenith, that is, the day of the hour. in an hour or two i had classes, and in full gear in a helmet i unlearned 25 classes and it is clear that i immediately completely lost weight, because uh, when you are in a leather jacket, in the heat in a helmet. with you. everything starts to flow, it works ironically, and you are recognized in sochi, yes, it happens. so, recently there was such an absolutely indicative case. i was walking along the embankment

, a man walked towards me, who, when he saw me, simply screamed, yes. well, it just almost sat down, it turned out that this is the commander of the aircraft, which we have on embertinka in the hotel. there the crew live, when they have free time they go for a walk, and he went and listened to my song. and at that moment he just looks up and sees me clip. yes, this is such a miracle, how cool. these are the moments there are. naturally, when you are without a parachute and without feathers. especially, no matter how striking, and no matter how people are so calm enough, but, in principle, since i am already local there, and the people who live there already. they recognize me, of course, that is, in stores in some pharmacies , you don’t go to karaoke in restaurants there. in short, i don’t go, i didn’t get used to it and studied, because in fact it’s difficult. so, of course, you need to have, uh

, unprecedented courage so that it doesn’t look like it’s not afraid to look straight from the heart, yes, yes, the most important thing, because when they start singing there, the singers, such a place is set right with their voice yes yes, yes, but when a person comes out in karaoke who can’t sing , but loves how i like this weak-minded courage. you know, it's forward. uh, took the microphone and rushed. listen, that you moved from yekaterinburg to sochi, but the fact is that i always dreamed of living by the sea, well, right from childhood, i was always drawn right away, and i tried to do some kind of sorties, then i’ll buy some somewhere some piece of land home to build a house something else, but time, of course, it was not enough for this, yes, to get out and arrange something there. that's the case i've always perceived. well, because something similar to anapa. probably because, well, somehow, people with bagels walk around naked. it’s like there, and at some point i

just got to the imeretinka and saw an incredible beauty. again, in january it was about 20° warm there. i realized that it seems so, this is the place where i need to live and in fact i will live ekaterina yes, yes. the fact that the urals, you can’t remove it from yourself in any way. he always with you you are in another case, ural man. that's why, wherever i am , the urals are always with me. the only one i have. here, such a deformation has occurred, what is now in every city? i'm looking for mountains on the horizon sincerely, because it has become a part of me. eh, the forces of some kind of peace, yes, that is, i arrive in adler and this home i raise my eyes and see everything is in place, class, and the mountains are different every day. new horizons fog, different clarity, they are different every day. and it somehow got me right here

admires, but you can’t somehow be inspired by its form. i just know, uh, seriously. now i remember the moment when we flew from the tour together in an airplane, and we diagnosed a little. yes, they accepted it from branded ones. the chamber of semantic hallucinations seryoga gave me a glass. he is so slightly swollen, well, a faceted glass, but melted, but so deformed and the inscription semantic hallucinations. cool. seryoga such hmm nibbled looks out the porthole clouds of the archipelago. well actually i still i have always been sitting by the window, because they still enchant. and how is the process of creating a song going on for you? clouds can influence you, there are mountains, something there once you saw some kind of image of a hop and a line appeared in your head or not? or are you this music? come here, listen, now there will be a song. in the sense

it is useless to take by the nostrils. it is unreal that it comes to you. yes, it's important to listen. and here is the very moment when the spark has arrived, you feel it, this very moment of inspiration, when it comes, you need to start recording. but not going into details, i understand that somewhere i 'm uh superficially here images, perhaps others will be needed, but i try to record this stream as much as possible. it's like, in fact, it's not even the first stage, but i always have the first stage, when i walk and suddenly some kind of image comes. here he comes incomprehensibly, as that is. it can be any event in life, indeed , love is a look, some kind of smell, sometimes the smell works very strongly, that is, some kind of image with which you live, as in the song, forever young, for example. how did this one come line. we were young, very young very funny weight