completely unpredictable, but it might surprise me. why the white house is afraid of russia only complete. they made their own victory. so we have no other option, antifake. tomorrow on the first and always on one tv dot ru there is a big game on the air against the backdrop of the failed ukrainian offensive, at least, failed to nato itself and this offensive. it was, as it were, intended, as if you like, as a prologue to this summit and , of course, for nato. ukrainian counteroffensive. this is not only a moral disappointment, but it creates big practical problems for them,

because, as it were, they say it is fair, and green's attitude, at least in appearance, is very positive. but there are a lot of him, and let's just say he doesn't suffer from good manners. but it’s something like this that absolutely didn’t restrain my impudence and, uh, impudent people are tolerated as long as they have to, but , well, in general, they are remembered for this, and now against the background of this kind of news, and we discussed yesterday at the great game other news appeared, and from washington and new york, that russia allegedly, allegedly entered into some kind of secret, and some kind of semi-official negotiations with the united states about peace in ukraine and, as it were, the moral of this story is this.

that, apparently, russia, under terrible pressure from nato, uh, well, uh, is starting to show some kind of new flexibility and you just need to be patient a little. and moscow will e itself e request those peace conditions that suit zelensky and which have so far been absolutely unacceptable for russia, we discussed yesterday with e, a special the representative of the official representative of the ministry of foreign affairs, maria zakharova, how absurd was the assumption that foreign minister sergei lavrov a was involved in some kind of negotiations with some unofficial americans . know is absolutely normal do not have between the experts, but there were some rather mysterious. uh reports that ah,

this visit of the minister, this conversation of the minister with experts in new york. he was in context some big process of dialogue that took place in moscow and uh, a little bit with people close to the kremlin and following the trust of the kremlin uh, and uh, as i understand it, uh, you have information from russian official sources, what the story was and most importantly what the story wasn't, but first of all i would like to say uh hmm no. eh, without any khlestakovism. really. she was on a very serious level, i had the opportunity to check what was actually in new york and, indeed, the most ordinary meeting with a group of experts who once

held important positions in the white house in the state department, there and so on and no more than that, i, well, this is many times and they said, and i know that you had such events all the time and you took part in them, in general, yes, and when i once said sergey viktorovich well, let's do it at my institute. you worked in new york when i worked at my institute. when did i work? and he says, how many people do you have? i say, well, 30 people will gather. he says well he says well. let's agree. well, the truth is, we didn't. eh, but basically, in general, it's absolutely normal standard routine procedure. yes, yes, and therefore, but what was important, they tried to throw some dust there, uh, somehow clouded this situation by the fact that supposedly there were more meetings. whether there, or

here, uh, russian and american participants at the same expert level. i also checked this and actually in my data , uh, in general, from official sources from official sources. although, yes, i will not name the source, yes, indeed , attempts to maintain relations at an expert level at some level continue, but they are like that. uh, uh, how is remote? this is through the house or the main thing, as i understand it. it is that such efforts continue, but at the level of scientists it is

, and there is absolutely nothing to do with scientific institutions and the kremlin, and these are basically the same institutions that have had long and varied relationships with this institution, the usa this europe is immo there and so further. they make good out of it. uh, a big political story and say that it was some kind of negotiations. and that this shows some kind of new flexibility of the russian country. this it would absolutely not be so, yes, to add to this literally very briefly. you know from the very beginning the information company in the west was absolutely disgusting. and western analysts, and especially ukrainian and youtube channels, telegram channels, and so on , that there is no weapon for russia, the army is not ready,

in general, everything will fall apart to hell, there and so on, and therefore putin and the russian authorities are directly begging at every step, how to meet somewhere and talk about something and agree, that is, we are interested in this, but the situation was not like that then either. and now the military industry is in excellent shape, which is radically different, which we just talked about. thanks to the minister who gave this data and, in general, successes on the fronts, obvious ones and a counteroffensive. this is another attempt. i absolutely agree this is a deliberate conscious policy. eh, in general. uh-huh try to, uh, spread disinformation in the west, that russia is looking for

, uh, some kind of contacts in order to start some kind of negotiations. although we are well aware that the ground for negotiations today no, because everything the west says until now, despite the fact that they are trying to distance themselves a little and so on, but they still say it is necessary to inflict a strategic defeat on russia, this is the position of the white house, this is the position of many european leaders, there is nothing to talk about, and therefore the russian side in the current situation is absolutely not interested in this and any people who do this on their own initiative. it is on their conscience of money. i agree with mine and want to add, in principle, from my point of view. uh, even in the situation. uh, sharp confrontation talk it’s better with each other, and than shouting through a megaphone and engaging in, uh, controversy, and

if the moment comes when washington , brussels, london, there is a serious willingness to talk, i uh, for some reason i’m sure that u in moscow what is called will not take long wait absolutely you correctly stressed for this it is necessary that they e be. uh, ready to talk seriously and uh, i once talked with representatives of the administration of the war, and about a year ago. they even and then a little later and they had then, but if want an interest in some form of dialogue with russia, including unofficially. that's what was the problem. and gradually, if you want their interest in dialogue, it is more and more a measure compared to

their desire to show that they fully support their beloved ukraine uh-huh and uh, when a completely legitimate question arose, if you want u dialogue with russia but hint, at least the least that you are ready to put on the table, well, besides the threats, i mean, in which it is better not to pass through three sides. and in general, it turned out that there was no readiness for a serious one, but there was no conversation there. and it basically, uh, led to those serious people in the united states who would like to have this kind of informal dialogue with oi, come to the unpleasant but inevitable conclusion that in washington, the time for such a dialogue is not yet

matured and quite possibly it will mature only if when there is a change of administration, and when there will be an opportunity then to talk to everything with other people and one of these people to show that it's not hopelessly mentioned, but colonel macgregor and the other person, that's jeff yes, these are serious decent people, and they won't try to pass themselves off as intermediaries without the proper ones. if you want errands, and most importantly, they will not make boys out of themselves to deliver bad news. if there is no serious conversation, okay, but let's wait and see. it seems to me that this story, fortunately, has exhausted itself and e. at this stage , uh, it's just clear to me that maria zakharova was right. it was fake. yes, they took it

situation. in general, absolutely innocent , absolutely standard, and they tried to do something completely, completely different, but this does not cancel the problems, but the real dialogue between russia and the united states. and here i have a question. why the head of administration? so they avoid talking themselves without intermediaries with official russian leaders. what do you think you know this is what contacts are made? i myself take part in them, you know, here is the first track. these are the officials one and a half, when experts and e, official representatives and the second track - this is at

the expert level. right now, all contacts with the americans are being made. that's right along the line of the second track, that is, the experts, but i should note that this is the issue that interests the americans most of all, and all their requests at the meeting. they are not about ukraine, but about arms control issues of this cis - this is, uh, nuclear. that is to say, control over nuclear weapons. this is what the americans are interested in right now. in ukraine so far with them there is simply nothing to exchange about, so to speak, they do not strive, and we do not strive for this, because there really is nothing to talk about, what is now ukraine because everything will be decided really on the battlefield. that's when u i think about two months later. uh, the situation will be perfect, clear, and then it will already be possible to talk with the americans about ukraine about the conditions that, uh, we will put forward for, uh, the final

settlement of this crisis. in the meantime, i say, that's what they are interested in, basically. uh, nuclear weapons issues, and that's nothing no. no, it's nothing, because they're really concerned about it. and i would say that they are seriously concerned about this, because the irresponsible statement is near , so to speak, both official and semi-final and retirees. i am especially surprised by some american military generals, they have completely lost both fear and responsibility before. e. we can talk about the possibility of a limited conflict in europe . this is so irresponsible and so fraught with consequences that it simply takes the breath away from the money. we're very close to the end yes, a little retort. uh, you know even people, by the way, two of them are just the authors of the merchant’s article, richard-has, allegedly, recently came out with such, uh, broadcast. e statement

that should be in negotiations. but what do they mean by negotiations until the americans move away from this stupid position. they say we need to help ukraine succeed on the battlefield so that they have a strong negotiating position when they sit down at the table with russia well, imagine on the one hand. they say there must be negotiations but on the other hand. they should have successes, they should be helped in this, and then , there will be negotiations, this is absolutely definitely even worse, because in the same article of theirs these two authors, who are the leaders of the kauns in the form of a langens relationship. uh, they say, literally, that uh, there is no need to be afraid of russia's use of nuclear weapons, because this is all putin's blackmail and it can simply be ignored and russia under

no circumstances will strike at nato territory because it will not dare, and therefore such the possibility can be ignored, that is main idea. press david russia organize a successful ukrainian counter-offensive today, no matter how you call it, and then from a position of strength force russia to agree. well, of course, here, if such an approach to negotiations is at the level of experts. and i would say that at any level, of course, this is an approach. not only is it not a perspective , it's funny, because if you want to negotiate from a position of strength, first demonstrate your strength, first carry out a successful offensive, first prove that the military dynamics are on uh in your country, a without it, what they say and write, who they are in

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will be able to go to baikonur to see the launch of the spacecraft with their own eyes. challenge in the cinemas of the country. this is an easy money podcast, i'm its presenter mikhail khanov and today. our guest is absolutely wonderful guest sergei edmundovich pekarsky. hello sergey sergey is known in two guises, you and a scientist economist with dozens of articles, both in russian and foreign specialized publications, and the second in your guise - this is your education, you are the dean of the faculty of economic sciences of the higher school of economics, everything is like that. i will explain

why today we invited you to podcast trying to deal with all that connected with money we twist them from all sides. we even go inside sometimes. we analyze the topics azov financial literacy in the rules of budgeting the rules of budget savings rules of investment. how to form a portfolio? what to pay attention to, what will happen to the ruble with the dollar with real estate, sometimes we even try, well, they still want a magic pill, but our dear fellow citizens. here we are trying to prove that there are no magic pills. and you still have to learn to work and so on, that is, in terms of money. not just how to invest them. how do i i say they didn’t try to earn money, and we are trying to consider those professions, those specialties that are as they said, now modern youth are the most hype or hype. that is, those that bring a lot of money, yes, that is, the same pill, but still through education. now we will try to figure out how much the demanded economist is. let's here's the first question to refuel. it's hype and

hype, it's definitely not a hype economist to be right, if that's what you want. well, i graduated from a university, and there are many economists like me. a lot of. we remember all the soviet jokes about the various economics between karl marx and clara sr. tell me how karl marx differs from aunt clara karl marx is just an economist aunt clara is a senior economist, and in the country now, uh, really. uh, many universities have introduced the direction of preparing the economy, but it is clear that less than a dozen domestic tastes are preparing worthy specialists. you train applied economists or more scientists, and there let them figure out what he should become students self-determine we don’t we set ourselves the task of preparing many scientists, simply because, firstly , the country e does not need too many scientists, more people who will be engaged in business, work in government and most students. and when they come to the first course. they don't know with whom they want to become scientists or bankers. they decide this in

the course of training, and in my opinion, well, 5-10 percent of students. then he really continues his economic career. they are doing something else. i know you don't like the word contest and but nevertheless. that's how people of the old formation, after all. let's uh, let's try to figure out this number. what kind of competition is yours now, you understand, what a thing, because now you can enter several universities and within one university for several areas of training, so measure the contour. now it is simply impossible there is no such figure in this sense. if you need to focus on, uh, firstly, uh, how many winners of prize-winners of the olympiads enter the educational program. uh, what was the unified state examination sergey ivanovich, i'm not a tear from you? how many places at the faculty, and at the faculty at the faculty of economic sciences of the higher school , more than 500 students are recruited in a row, more than five hundred students. how much is the application? as a rule, uh 3-4.000 is

a decent figure. this is an indicator that the education of the tower is really valued economic, because you know how there was such an anecdote at one time when a man wants to please women, one of whom loves athletes, the second the military, and the third the indians. he says, allow me to introduce myself the master of sports colonel. actually. i think that faculties are now called exactly they are faculties, and there are numerous other universities, which, yes, that everyone is trying to do all the economy. i think that exactly for these reasons. yes, let's do it there, what's the trendy money of aichi now? and the economy is all here, the faculty and economics, i don't know it there, and the loan, yes, well, that's about, unfortunately, yes, the target economy, yes, everything begins so, ah, the education of the tower prestigious economic education. still. here, leaving the walls, alma mater. what kind of work and immediately what level of income can your graduates apply for,

if we discard science. firstly, this depends on the profession , and yet our students are guided not only by the monetary result. how much they would like to earn at the exit, after all, someone likes to deal with corporate finance, someone is interested in macroeconomics, and here, in fact, the results can be different. well, in general, students, as a rule, already, starting even from the third and fourth years learning is an opportunity to earn good money. and, in principle, go out as a graduate tinkering with a salary of 200 or more than 1,000 rubles. per month. quite realistic. now we're talking about the best. we are probably talking about the best. if you measure, uh in the characteristics of averages, on average it will be , uh, about 100,000, probably positions. who is a very wide range - it is economists in commercial banks and other financial institutions. these are various analysts. a lot of our students go to the civil service in the central bank and so on. representatives of large state corporations hunt

for your graduates even at the level when they are not yet graduates. moreover, students have such examples, moreover, we encourage them to do so. we are trying to implement the so-called project-oriented learning model, which assumes that we bring future employers to students . the second year of study is already starting. a student in the second year of study can choose one. we currently have 180 projects, for example, he chooses a project in the field of macroeconomic policy . uh-huh and so on, facing not only us academic colleagues. well, for example , such a student has the opportunity to start with colleagues from the bank of russia. think not about educational tasks, but about real tasks. and you can give an example of such a task. here's one that can already start to decide. uh, a second- year student here is important to note. what a thing in our projects involves mixing students of different years of study, because one of the important competencies is teamwork and it is clear that a toolkit that can be applied to solve a problem at a serious level, tools and theoretical and

mathematical economic, as a rule, a student still acquires already in the third fourth year of study. but the most important thing is that the student of the second year of study understands why they will study something and are just oriented. yes, the learning model assumes that, along with the choice of the project , the student chooses the disciplines that he needs in order to obtain the appropriate competence. it's a great motivation when you start from the second course, not even completely yet, having received the mathematical apparatus in your hands, but you already begin to think in the direction of where this apparatus is for you. it can come in handy, yes, because as if most of us ask, but why do i need this sine cosine and there, of course. a modern university should be a kind of intellectual supermarket for the student, coming where the student, in fact, understands that he wants the task of universities in such a situation - it simply acts as a navigator to help the student decide on a profession to understand what he needs to study what kind of skills to acquire in this regard, the tower began to do this, that is , to propagate a similar model that the university is a navigator. yes? this assistant is a cataloger. uh, it was from the beginning

or before the last change. i don't know ten years there. it was almost from the beginning. we left to proceed from the fact that and in the modern world, uh, a professor should not be a relayer of knowledge. the student's knowledge can be found in quite different ways by the task of the professor to guide the student. and and this is essentially a model, on which has long been released by all the world's leading universities. it turns out that a student in this model, which is preached by the hse, does not need to be constantly physically. yes, offline, what is called indoors at lectures, if he chooses some programs, if he chooses the very trajectory of his education. i am gradually approaching the fact that, in principle, there is literally one step left. i know that you made it online education and your words that, in principle, online, uh, education in a good strong university will often be better, than offline education. well, let's say at the university

there, the second or third gradation there. quite right. there are several aspects of online education here. this education is full-time, not part-time in the sense that it really happens, but the contact between students is going to lectures. there is a certain time to turn on the computer, that is, there is no such thing that i will listen to it sometime later. here the lecture is in uh, we use online courses that are recorded, they are studied, as we talk about asynchronously at any convenient time and this is convenient, just for students magistracy, when they combine this business with work in online picking opposite, so as not to destroy the traditions that were recently at school, we prefer synchronous classes, when students are just at the monitor and the teacher is at the monitor. but uh, the most important thing here is what is it and it's just technology technology should be modern, but the essence of the approach to education does not change students have to learn something independent a significant part. e student's work. on the development

of academic disciplines. consideration of work on projects is precisely independent work in this regard. and how is it organized? it's a matter of technology. the question is, how do you and i understand and know that the most important thing in education is the control of the acquired knowledge, which eventually settled in this wonderful head. they flew into one dick into another flew tests. uh, test scores. they are also held online or offline, but here we will try to use completely different forms. i am actually the author of an online course myself and in the framework of my course. it's called the macroeconomics of financial markets. for masters and as part of this online course , students take a weekly test, but not in order to get an assessment from this not so much weight, but simply to test themselves how much they understood the material. and in order for me to understand how much they understood, i prefer that they write something and at the same time it doesn’t really matter to me whether they will peep somewhere or not? i'm wording

the questions so i can follow their train of thought. hmm. they're on the point that they just literally memorized something. great, well i i remember my training in physics and technology. we had one subject - theoretical mechanics. he says that you could use everything you want after receiving a ticket, and any textbooks and notes at all , right there in the lecture for the examiner. you go and write off, but the attitude towards this material was exactly the same, that is, if you still couldn’t even write off, then you were kicked out immediately, and so was the nature of the halopolists. okay, let's solve the problem. you solve the problem, we solve it, of course, also online. and here it's probably harder to write off, because all tasks are, uh, individual. well , at least you should understand what approach to decide or how? well, it is clear that modern students do not radically differ in this aspect from students from 10-20 years ago. so it means write off and so on. and this is a question of how we can effectively organize control, and how would you excuse us use

this technology to search for similar texts on the net. that is, of course, all people to our students. i have to say that every one of us, in reality, we are expelling several students for plagiarism, as in current works, unfortunately, there are even paid ones. so there are such cases, of course, and budgetary payment. and in this sense, there is no fundamental difference for us. we have, of course, the program is completely commercial, but the main nabum is on the main, undergraduate, for example, it is fifty fift, and the commercial student is paid students and i, as a professor, i don’t know who is in front of me. that is, i'm just not interested in it, because i don't need to know the chat 5 haven't started using it yet. but no, i will not rule out that it can happen, however. here everything depends, in fact, not only on the student. but these teachers are responsible teachers. he will easily find out that it was not a student who wrote it. this is also evident from the way it is written. well, it's understandable if a student e downloads and uses very good works. teachers may already have

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