the fact that a child should, as it were, choose for himself what he wants to do. that is, for example, i want to sing. let's go and sing. i want to draw let him go to draw. that is, it is not necessary. here somehow all the time to the child back and forth, back and forth. you can, as if ask him what you want, he will answer everything and everything. maybe that's how it felt. you are the impulse. i am very artistic for the first time. here i am in commercials. here's how it happened. i filmed from advertising. and my mom says to me, why don't you act in films? well, here we are such an abda, really. why aren't we filming? and so we went to the agency and castings, then, uh, cinema, and that's it, somehow everything ended with a new pro . a little bit wrong, well, just a little bit at all. i agree, uh, with the words that parents should kind of listen to the child, but i just didn't have much of it. so i was just too young to

be aware of my wants and needs. yes, and my parents, as it were, they, on the contrary, sent me there there, yes, they helped to me. if i decide on my own, i came there like that, but i want to play football and come to football. my dad used to buy all the uniforms and equipment for me. actually i came hit. i really came to football, hit my knee and didn’t go there again, but he bought me a uniform, beads, dad’s coolest games. i want boots such a bath. you wanted to take two classes. so no. dad, i'm not going to fuck you. okay take it. that's how i kept going. one lesson and everything went to hockey went to swimming to swimming. i seriously studied for a long time, which i also did for two years, what else was there basketball. and so, and the theater has always been and how you never got tired of the theater. that's where i stayed. well, although everything about the real went swimming there. this is the eternal thing that from theater to swimming to swimming to teach rocky to sleep and to school, but here there is a personal life wrong, where do you lose? here are those 15 minutes between swimming and all my whole terms. are you

forever? well, it’s good for me that one producer, and the old one, so to speak, and the old guard of producers told about children that at some point they, in general, demolish the tower so, in general, on the basis of, in fact, greatness, and they turn into stars in the worst sense of the word, that is, these whims, well, what are the victims, what are they suffering. well, we don't have a type. well, who knows, well, i think that we are not victims, maybe it’s because you have been walking since these three years and slowly, with small small boards, small boards, what you need to tell the child so that at some point he doesn’t did not lose himself. he said, i am a star mom, leave us, as if you are asking a circle of moms for advice. take mom to the cell, please, years, i am conscious. here, yes there was no such thing that, oh, i catch myself about the fact that

i have now suffered. and of course it was. well, yes, this is generally it, and i think that this is not something that everyone goes through. everyone should go through this, because this is such a topic that you are experiencing. it is you and me who are the people who push you away from this. i mean, mom is right there. damn, it was probably 15 years, even venus jupiter didn’t come out. well, he wasn't really anyone. i was now. for those who you are still the main ones, these are the stages of becoming a person. that's 14 years old. that's right i was such a child, in general, recorded, there was a type of camera there, and i got a cover of a lot of views on the well-known social network. and here i thought there, that’s all, like, so i grabbed the bird by the tail in general, and also past my mother, then i immediately gave a pendali to the side. i remember this period very well. this is manifested not in the fact that you walk, there, like such a super, cool you want. you are normal, you are just for me, this all always manifests itself to the family. you start with loved ones.

you start neglecting your relationship with them. that's the saddest thing about it, because uh, there are people around, but there's like your family. and so, when you family starts to communicate, they put themselves in some moments above them, then this is very bad. here and here. when i turn around, i understand that, well, like, i know all aspects of this disease, no matter how much you want to return to it. i had a feeling. well, i don't know, i'm really not up to fame now because i'm studying. i love studying there. here is something new for you to learn there to try some new cuisine ride. uh, they meet new people in different cities of the country. this is the expansion of horizons. yeah, but your parents expected you to appear like that, in general, the development of events, that is, here she herself knows everything that she wants. yes, and i think the parents are very proud simply. well

, this is generally true, well, an independent child at that age. this is a very cool conductor. here she is with me all the time. she is with me on some film expeditions on auditions , even the auditions herself, when she comes, we sit, my mother and i we analyze the heroine there. so to speak, that's live from the role. i myself, of course. but the analysis of the personality of the character and all that. everything, here the character of the personality must be understood here. your heroine surrounded me , of course, recently on all billboard posters, yes, which are just like i'm at that age, then you play someone. well, in fact, here, and there was absolutely nothing to play, absolutely i am that mischievous girl, such a cheerful girl. i am she , that is, i have absolutely nothing to play. that is, i am me, but there is no gadgets, for example, in this world in which you play. it's even good. this is very important, but even good. it's even good. that is, like these games, these are all

all sorts, but the indians. here we played. there were all sorts of indians, we went there and talked, that is, this is the most important communication. it’s not like these people sit on the phone like this, and most importantly, communicate, so it can be taken away from all gadgets. clap. yes, i think if you take away gadgets, how to look, then listen. ah here is, i believe, that, perhaps, have children. i think not it is worth picking up the phone, you have to give free rein. i don't have a free phone. my phone was taken from me. in short, i was punished for this. i was taken away by sensors and given a push-button. this was the top punishment for me, because it was a very hard time for me. in short, i myself, well, probably, at the age of 16 i bought myself a push-button phone and removed the touch one, because, well, someone writes there. she push-button only call you open. i

went straight with him for weeks. i was so cleansed mentally, it’s just that it became easier for me, because it was so convenient to just call you. you can find and outgoing. well, i mean, it's really great. cool. here but when i was little, for me, it was the punishment of the computer, i was not allowed to play, but i did not have time there. especially. it's just that if i played on the computer, then i don't do my homework. it was very bad, of course, now there will be recognition. i have never played any computer game in my life. true, i know existence, but i am so afraid that they will eat away from me, the time that i had to to spend on completely different things, and i'm scared to leave. here in this alien reality. uh, well, because abai's life is in different fears more serious than that of children. god, you are my brother, you are afraid to go into a parallel reality in general, but listen, what do you think about us all going into parallel reality in the future, in fact, it will not be very good, because you need to live in the present answers present. that's what's wrong with him there, and even in the past it was about what will be in the future no need to live in the present just now.

lena and i had a very serious discussion on this topic, in general, there is a fairly well-known fast who believes that 40% of humanity are ready to leave and, in general, like living beyond 15 million, and wow people interact, but they eat real food there, to play further something feeds them. in general, this time they were revealed by some very funny, uh, surreal. well, it was just there, it seems like a story. but this, of course, is, uh, a scary thing. i don't think anything is bad, because in our country, uh, it's like everything evolves. and what are we developing? technology, all that. this is very cool. but of course, it's too much with what's out there, like people stop talking. they are calling. how to speak. it's generally sad. all. we continue our conversation with you creative industry podcast. our guest today is vanya dmitrienko, an actress. katya tinova pocket, we

continue our conversation, let's get back to creativity. say, here, uh, venus jupiter was written at some point. uh, yes, but you had no fear that you would, in general, become slaves to your hit film and you would perceive this all your life, as if, but there are such artists. yes, they are always asked to sing the same song. here is an example. you told me, 36. this is victory, well, i kind of have a loyal attitude towards this. well, as if how well, okay, nothing to be afraid of. yes, but here i am, for example, by myself i can say that periodically. and i have a problem with the fact that if someone knows that i worked on a group of tattoos, then it's up to me. this is how it stretches, like a label, as if nothing else existed during this time. i didn't do anything else, so for my part, i advise you to constantly take new and new heights plans, this

goes without saying, but, let's say you say, will i be there, like, become a hostage of my hit. why should i be afraid of this at all? if a hit, this is an incredible success, the tatu group is an incredible success. there were no such russian groups yet, that is, they went on tour on a world tour. this is generally said. that is, like, of course, gold. yes, this is incredible. cool. this is a huge success and someone cannot dream of such a thing at all. even allow. and that is, a hit and venus beads - that's for sure. then there were self-known songs. whether it was lego was 36.6 much more than what it was and we are now releasing albums, but venus is a hit that got to 198th place in the world charts, it flew into the auditions only for russian listeners from other countries. that is , i really want to kill it by itself, but it’s hard and the fact that he, in principle, is an incredible pride for me and, as it were, there is always something to strive for, because he is. this is my pride. they afraid that i will stay with him. god forbid, i'm

filming, i'll stay in our past, where are my people from? yes, but it was very important to make sure that there are numbers on the chart. how is it tested? for example, when you look at how many views you pay attention to it. how many views did manyun have on the platforms? or how much listening has been on streaming e platforms, of course, that's interesting, of course. it's interesting as you can see. well, what is it for, just to understand what plans there are? it's more for yourself. and if suddenly once there will be slightly lower than we would like the expected result, it was no worse. that is, it, in principle, is happening, even this is actually right, you need to move on, that’s right , yes, this is such a trigger to once again ah, there is still aha, now we’re crying again on the other side,

and it’s important for you in general that you people of the older generation also knew, or you don’t think about it at all. well, let's know you, your mom. it's good. generation too for me. actually. i don't even know how to say it, probably not really. well, as it is, i do not know everything wonderful. how do you imagine the audience? here, well, this is the word audience this is what they look like. here are some people who are watching me, who are liking something there, i don’t know, well, it’s just that those who like me are an audience for me. she strongly believes in your heroine, of course, from this in any way. and you, uh, do you choose the script, so, when they offer you, all of a sudden there is some kind of uh, very negative character. uh, let's say there's an antagonist who starts doing some completely

unpleasant things. and those nasty ones actions, for example, other children will look at and repeat. well, i would play some kind of bully really. i've always dreamed of playing some kind of anti-hero. yes, yes, because it causes the most nerves. u yes, well, it's like that for me. hmm adrenaline i love it. yes, i love it. well, in life , in fact, as if there is not much time, you just need to take it. well, well, i love my brother, so the creative hooligans are visiting us. every creative person has a so-called glass ceiling, which must be broken through. in the end, and you have to reach it first , then despair, pain, which means, uh, many people have a serious creative crisis. after that, someone punches someone. no, this is a creative flow. here is further . here is the development that we are talking about now, uh, you already had, first of all, a creative block, when you sit and you can not write a song. here

also it turns out to be complete despair, or you can’t play and the camera stops looking and so on. no, no, no again. hmm no, and never will be, and never will ever be there . never say never. i believe in it will never sound very appropriate in this vein, but i’m very interested in how many of these ceilings there are, because, and every time you step over yourself in fact, you break through it? that is, when it started, when i had my first cover there , it got a lot of views there. i, too , broke through some kind of ceiling when the song became somehow famous. i also jumped the ceiling. and how many of these ceilings do you think they just they just happen all the time. i don't even know how high the ceilings are. i think it's just uh, steps b flat room. that's up, there is no present. i always say that in our country infinity strives absolutely because of the apathy of the creative crisis. i think so far that i have an opinion on this something one thing. i

believe that all apathy and creative crises are personally in the head of a person. i have an album called here's paranoia. and it is precisely about the fact that we develop a lot of problems in our head, the problems outwardly become internal. and you, as it were, twist them in your head and this becomes, as if you scale it somehow, and they become huge problems for everyone in this, really the salt of many people is a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey, so to speak, in fact, from what from which lena reacts so much. the fact is that now, in fact we are also watched by a certain number of people who have no idea what your generation looks like. they look and are amazed. they think we imagined it completely, otherwise. well, as a rule, this is for the worse, otherwise and then suddenly this is the most, this is the most beautiful thing. that is, i have. there was a question and i did not have time to answer it. there we flew on about the audience

for me. yes, it is very important, but to get 35 from an adult audience and these are different views on this, but i have such a view precisely because i still have a concert activity and when a teenagers come to my concerts. or their parents let them go. it was important for me to make it clear to parents that i would not teach children anything bad, and i would not say anything bad. and i have my own stable worldview, which i am ready to share and some right things some proper messengers. i am ready to convey to them, that is, when the theme does not come to concerts at all, when mom is interested and dad is interested and daughters are interesting, they all stand high. this is the most beautiful thing in general, because not every teenager succeeds in getting respect from adults. especially in a creative environment. they really have the majority of the opinion that our generation is a generation of gadgets and absolutely rash acts. i can speak for myself, actually about adults. i am listening to the guitar music india music. well, western. yes

, i listened to it a lot in my time, and i always had a question. why don't we have a young man on stage. a guitar that plays well and sings well. it’s just that there was no need for another, in general, requests. yes, just to stand up for a meeting, and when i saw on the air, uh, one of the concerts where vanya played the guitar. he sang cool, in general for me it was it. it's like a new breakthrough here in our glass and ceiling of show business. and it was very cool, in fact, katya is what you are broadcasting. and this is very sincere and i, for example, when i listen to the radio, and i already authored so much that for me i very quickly filter songs that have compositions, that have graphomania, that have no soul, and i am very pleased. but today to see you here and talk to you and once again find out, otherwise the depth

in which you actually are, and in which you dive and see katya, because that's what i feel from you. i want this so that other children are not afraid of this sincerity. you know me it seems that the state of closedness does not allow to escape. to this deep experiment, at school, sometimes children are told, that is, like, be more restrained, that is, you should always keep your emotions in yourself. i think it's absolutely. if you want to talk, if so smart, it's just a holiday in general. if you want, say you want to rush, go ahead, rush for sure. these are wise words back, because they once asked me, but hmm what kind of law would i introduce e in short, the constitution, yes , that's right, and i said that i would asked all parents to send their children to the theater for a year, because the theater is very liberating. i believe

that it is very important to learn how to communicate with other people in childhood. and when children are forbidden or type fetters them to himself. i don’t understand this at all, when a child knows how to communicate, get to know each other and all that. this is very good in the future it will help him a lot. katya in general, yes, they sometimes impose on children, like, here, be restrained, here at school, they especially call it will be imposed containment. it’s always at school that it’s the director who shoots the director, of course, this, but the director can offer some idea there, that is, or maybe i did it like this. maybe i’ll do something like this, but now we won’t say what we are working on that we can’t say. no, you can’t say it’s going well, but there is some work completed. but soon my project will be released. i play a girl psychics it was easy to play a girl with e. yes, there is an extra. well, in general, yes, all heroes, all

heroes in uh cinema should be extraordinary, yes superpower. here. in general, i always dreamed of playing in some kind of mystical thriller. here somewhere in a horror movie in some dream was. i really love some horror movies, something terrible , otherworldly mystical. this is just my love, yes, and it’s great to pour honey for our viewers. and how do you feel about soviet cinema and soviet composers, and therefore i will say i have, but my favorite soviet film. this is me walking around moscow and the diamond arm. this is generally a classic there hand. i first looked at grandmother, then i looked with my mom and dad, and then i looked myself and since then i have watched myself all the time, but no, i don’t watch, i’m all

new year, yes. listen, i don’t know, probably, and then i was going to the cinema, it’s different at that time there wasn’t such a developed film industry in terms of cameras there and you can see everything here and there, like somewhere they tried to re-shoot these ones there, what kind of jokes were the actors personally who didn't get you. it’s right, it ’s all very somehow native, it just looks, so soviet cinema probably doesn’t like its spinning, there's an annual new year's something. well, in short, moscow does not believe in tears , incredible pictures are also alive, yes, it ’s simple in their own way, although even for us children. this is also native, because there it's just nice to look at. and it's also inspiring because once in your youth watching in our parental is also kind of cool. it's like they're on a par with them. come on, i'm a template for moscow, something out there, who are you from the heroes, uh, most of all this film. i think he is very kind, how to say this song here, and i'm walking, everything is fine, we look and i

can pass here very much . here. i don't know what family is. what was there? winnie the pooh was cheburashka of course, this is animation. yes , but i mean movies. i don't know the baba yaga of the koschey fairy tale there. well, plus fairy tales, of course, go watch, it turns out cartoons. no, not always cartoons. for example, in my past i was visiting a fairy tale. i watched the fairy tales of alexander row and uh, didn't see them. well, there morozko, for example, is 12 months old. we had such cinematography. so i remember, it’s simple , and you have a diamond arm, and i’m saying, in moscow i didn’t watch all this either, i ’m walking around moscow, i have everything, to be honest, that’s why i can’t support a dialogue on the planet. i didn't watch exactly like it, because really in the movie it matters very cool. it matters now. this is already

a knowledge of christ, that is, the music is 50% of the success of the film. uh, guarantees good truth and memorability wrote too now soundtracks too. i really like to do this when they turn to write some music for a series or films. well, that's all about it, then i also wanted to ask about it. yes, very scary, after all, but also you children. well, that's ahead ahead and thank god uh, tell me how you see the future of our country. here. eh, what do you have, what do you see in your head? this is a serious question. but i think people are waiting for an answer to it. i believe that if children engage in creativity and self-development and tell their parents that they want to love everything around and together will support them in this. i believe that our generation will be simply wonderful in 30 years, exactly the best that we can do. yes? for us for all it is to become happy ourselves and even defines no

understands. well, i really, i probably don’t need to join for drama, but i will join, because i myself have an eleven-year-old son, for example, a fantastic one, who already also plays the guitar, and i just understand that if you give freedom to a child , indeed, we are growing growing, absolutely incredible generation. yes, yes, this is generally fine, yes, and in fact, these are the very creative people. they change our world for the better behind this process, in general. i believe that this is directly the moral of the issue is what ends. as a matter of fact, release friends. yes, but listen to me. i have a big request to you, if you are called for an interview, please go and agree more and more often, because of course, what you say is as if you were from home. it’s just that i don’t know what i am, i can convey it there now, but here it’s just that you form

the interest of others in the audience of the audience in creativity, in the creative industry, in self-realization, and thus in children. here are people children of freedom children. freedom to the children, of course, the creative industry podcast. our guests are vanya dmitrienko and katya temnova, elena roman karmanov with you today , watch the creative industry podcast, it was wildly interesting. i wish you success. thank you very much. thank you very much too. we wish you all the best, dear friends. go yourself. thank you, thank you