so you can't keep track of everything. nu, but there is a law on fakes there, which caused significant harm to the infrastructure of the population there. that's it. well, it’s not even spelled out there. no reason, there’s no need to cause harm. this must be this must be a fake, creating a threat to further all these consequences. but you know how, it seems to me, because, again, in classical journalism. here in any textbook it will be written that the functions inform to educate there to entertain, there it is exciting. you can say yes, but of course there is most important function of influence. and so, when i remember, when the same there, some social networks , too, telegram was just starting. yes, here you are, an anonymous channel. yes, what, then, i, for example, am reading from a situation that i have a good command of. i understand that this is not true. and then i read other news and i think, in theory , i should make a logical conclusion that since they are lying here, most likely they are lying there too, but i don’t know exactly what is happening there. i

sit thinking, but suddenly and this, and suddenly this is a psychological impact. well, that is it basically manipulates me. i remember visiting a friend of mine. well, let's say this to a media person, and we agreed to meet with him, he runs and talks. listen, i say i must urgently give a few interviews, because such and such a telegram channel wrote that i went on vacation with subsequent resignation. and i say you went on vacation. he says no but i already have 10 people. i called and asked if everything was in order , the other 10 people no longer pick up the phone when i call, that is, this is manipulation, and it affects real life, it turns out, well, yes, certainly well, after all , these anonymous tehgram channels have a serious audience. well, look, it turns out what a shifter. if , nevertheless, we proceed from the fact that journalism is information about what happened and a discussion of what happened, then today we often discuss very emotionally. and in

general, quite seriously. yes, what has not happened or will not happen, that's how to relate to it. well, how do you feel about rumors , they were, they always were and will be here again i say that this is a question of what he wants people believe and many do not need this evidence, they need to confirm their own point of view, therefore they read this news, therefore they read certain channels that somehow correspond to them, but you do not see what kind of - something such a serious problem, because it, well, it blurs the boundaries in general, but the question is how to deal with it. and in general, is it possible to fight this, but they are trying to fight with us than the fact that some applications are blocked , some speeds slow down. well, how are we we see it doesn't work for everyone. well, in terms of the fact that video hosting is known, which

now exists on the territory of russia , you won’t find anything there. well, by the way, to the question, yes, on the other hand, after all, and in the same field today, for understandable political reasons, we have faced the most severe censorship. today, by the way, the parodists of zelensky people have removed the channel further. i just described some funny songs there. yes, and there he did streams, but you personally encountered this. we have faced this removal three times. we have more for quite an official reason, they removed some, allegedly for the fact that we threaten the national security of the uk, some are removed without explanation. good reasons guys. yes , if well, they blocked, in fact, hmm their minister. after all, it was not we who put these words to him. yes, he said them himself, therefore, in national security. here the minister of great britain threatened the national security of his words to his words, and

blocking you here turns out to be another problem, which is true, they are just trying to make it a fake, and on this basis to cancel and block. this is interesting, of course, very interesting, but such a twist, yes. the truth is trying to declare a fake. or just ban it, right? that is, in principle, a fake is much worse, by the way, it's one thing when you forbid it, when you say that it's a lie. by the way, i wanted to ask you, but it turns out that you are using well, what is called a prank. yes, but you are actually fighting fakes. yes, and it even happens that we communicate with those people who distribute them in advance, knowing that this is a lie, and we had several such serious high-profile things, when a person admitted to us that i was on purpose, but heated up the situation and lied. as it were, but another question is that you won’t prove anything to us, that is, to the side,

because she will be prejudiced against us in advance . well, you know, here's something else i was thinking about. there is a situation with fakes, when a person consciously, can look for something. yes , but it seems to me that there is a deeper problem. it may be less sharp, but in that people begin to fantasize immediately. here it is necessarily necessary to write why? and then we have going. i don't know, addiction, or what ? that's what happened or did not even happen something announced and that's any self-respecting, so to speak, blogger. he believes that he has no idea how he is there this blogger has been silent for 3 hours, but thank god the person has disappeared. it was followed every day. and anyway, look here. what is my question? after all, this is not a problem of a fake, as such , a conscious one, but a problem of constructing an information field, which consists of some of our hmm scraps of thoughts if i may say, yes i’ll throw out emotions, under which for some reason someone should discuss with us at once everyone

becomes specialists in all areas. yes , but this is another, so to speak, facet of this problem. i just mean that this is a fundamentally different design, information fields. it, and even we, it seems to me, do not fully understand this, that it is completely different , everything that would never have hit before. this is the common space. today it consists of it. and it can be very cool to continue to wear this influence, but people are more think with emotions and want to consume emotions. but look here then there is such a turn, and a phrase that is unpleasant to pronounce and admit to it, but i am afraid that we will not get away from this, there is no person who cannot be manipulated. there is no question of the strength of the impact, but of readiness. yes, this impact is exercised on

the scale of this. yes, someone is simpler, someone here is, probably, people who are not amenable to hypnosis, as they say, but people who are not amenable to manipulation, most likely, are absent or there are such manipulations may be different. even even some household household manipulations. or when we come to the supermarket store. there is also a huge whole science built how to lure a person to buy this or that, so we are constantly in this field, but it is about the information field. if we talk, we won’t reveal secrets, of course, that all telegram channels they somehow pursue the goal of their owner, for someone it ’s commercial, for someone else someone else wants to influence again. well, if we let's make news that would not be uh, manipulative, that is, just dry, as if the news is there, so i often quarrel with one well-known federal media agency. and i and

they write, uh, such actual prankster headlines. eh, they played a trick on such and such a person. i speak. well, why would you even write. well, what was there, in fact, there was some kind of high-profile thing from there, what they found out was something like this. well, no, we're so official with her. we give such a pledge. well, then they themselves hand over some kind of clickbait headline, that something happened there, of course subscribers. well, that is, there will be more views, but look, but still, yes. a, if we proceed from what is unpleasant when it was manipulated and on the idea. a normal person, of course, but usually those who are sure that the name is being manipulated. that's what you're manipulating. but there are some rules that can help. here is a way for a person to resist this. well, okay. that's when you already said at the beginning, when you just take information from different sources and compare it already allows. you somehow see a little bit. yes, what else could it be?

it is imperative to look at the invoice, that is, who said when he said under what circumstances, because the source of some telegram channel wrote that lexus said it’s not a fact that lexus is well, the specifics must be without it. it's all like that. and it’s not plausible, therefore , you need to figure it out and still look for some inconsistencies somewhere, because any news of this goodness is enough. but, but you feel sometime, when you read something, that this is manipulation. and what and how are you trying, let's say, probably, even somehow i don't try to understand it, because i'm so well like for me it's commonplace that well everyone wants to. uh, when you're there studying with mickey some. even not even the media, even the telegram channel, or just some bloggers , opinion leaders should still understand that, but someone is behind them and some, well, it’s clear

that something is behind them. that's who's behind you . well we are an example. this is what is called the exception to the rule. yes, that's what i always say too. yes, well, if you take the media, it’s still some kind of team there. yes , they work somewhere in the state office for something live receive money. that is, it is clear there are some owners. and there is, because this particular one, and in classical, as we say today, even journalism, it is also always clear that there are some interests of the owners. media yes, but here it is not directly related to manipulation. well, different news can be presented in different ways. even now you look during the conflict. yes, and that even some kind of news can be submitted, well, our official media is fine, yes, but let's say some opposition there somehow turn out differently. here is the same news, but somehow the other way around so that a would still say what soap means. well, it's generally

elementary to do. you know here. uh, somehow i noticed, well, since they also come to me now to give some kind of interviews in official status, and i say that this is a difficult situation on the one hand and on the other hand. here i remember goes publications in the headline. it is written there any you said a colon and what i said is written on the one hand, and on the other the media publishes. this is the same interview, but in the title it changes what was said on the one hand. this is what they took for granted. they took out what i said on the other side and it turned out that the same text, but with opposite headings. yes, but this is the nuance of the complexity of the situation, that there is one and the other. it is simply absent from the headline and those who read the headlines do not go any further. they simply, well, the readers of the first were sure that i said this, and the readers of the second that it was, but still , it seems to me, uh, that a conscious person and a responsible person should develop some rules of information hygiene. this is about this is being said seriously below. well, yes, there is so such a term is digital for toxication, but

this is no longer a joke. it seems to me that, uh, no, well, you definitely need to take a break from the news flow. and you rest, as they say, do not read newspapers. we try, of course, and how it is necessary, probably, to look at some kind. if you still want to study something, but some, well, maybe not news content. look at least at least someone there someone is preparing something interesting. yes, on channel one. here, the more scientific content. you can look somehow a little bit to go to another area, for example, there , if politics is very concerned, well, look in some other area to see something like that, take a walk on the street. well, how do you personally feel? here is the dependence on this, unfortunately, yes, but here , uh, the fact is that our activity is somehow connected with the news agenda. yes, and therefore all ideas are also born on the basis

of what we read and watch, therefore yes, we also have such an occupational disease, but deformities of one heal. we are trying to live acceptance with her. today we gathered our thoughts about the prank of manipulations and the state of the information field vladimir kuznetsov alexey stolyarov, we continue, as far as i understand, but there are two extreme approaches, but to what is called prank. although a lot of what is called a prank. yes, but still the approach, because it is almost an art. here is art, practical joke and so on. this is on one end of the spectrum and on the other, that this is hooliganism, for which it is necessary to punish the shame of the profession there, and so further, you know that the professions of pranksters and we call our scouts scouts, and they are different. yes, this is exactly the same here and well, it works like that. there in ukraine in the west. they call us

hooligans. yes, there are even spies. they are not spies there, well, it is clear that the ions, and there it is of such a negative nature. i know it's a little different for us. so, for you personally, after all, this is even journalism , even journalists, someone relates more to instrumental such a professional composition. yes sees here instrumentally, then there is someone who thinks that it is more of an art. here's what you 're doing carefully. this? what do you think this is? all together modestly said, lyosha prank is also different. yes, what can you call it, this is too broad a concept, because there, let's say on the street you go some crazy under, well, no, well, it's clear, there is a schoolboy, yes, let's say on the day of your thigh on your head and say, oh, i decided to check your reaction. how fun, but this, of course, has nothing to do with our activities or someone can call there,

well, phone scams. this thing has been going on all over the country for a long time, as if to some degree, they are somehow more elegant, because they force people there to do different things. we do not ask anyone to take loans in our name, money money, we do not ask us. there is no component , namely, or, as it were, the whole spy operation with wagner themselves, which flew to minsk, they should have , as it were, flown somewhere to colombia there for a to work, yes, but it turns out that it was a special operation, just the well-thought-out ukrainian special services gathered people to plant them nods in kiev and there, respectively, to arrest something very distant. but look, again, closer to that, here, uh, what drives you? yes, well, there is still such a point of view that someone is doing this because of the love of art. well, because you get some kind of drive, yes, i don’t know,

you learn something there. they say yes, communications and so on, but someone thinks that this is a tool to say something, here, uh, in your case, is that more of a degree? well, that is, it is a means for some purpose or for the love of art. here you are, well, like it here. sorry, if we didn't like it, we wouldn't have been doing this for so long. well, i admit, maybe you have different points of view. not everything is 100% the same. no, well, this is some kind of general, probably, those topics are still simple. well, how did they put it? yes, this is the first thing that we really want to do something interesting, cool and informative and every time we try to reveal these skills in ourselves, er, to reveal and improve, because a good conversation is an interlocutor that has informational

value when you do it. i think this is what motivates me the most. but i remember that they once said to me, this is not the first time we are talking. what stories did you have that you didn't release? oh, yes, and as i understand it, including for some moral, yes, reasons, that is, you decided that, well, somehow you don’t know, you made a mistake in a person, but from your point of view, in my opinion, not wrong, but i mean from the point. well why here i can be you misunderstood but i understood that you didn’t let go, because you think that this one, well, this person doesn’t need, so to speak, a blow that doesn’t come out with us. it doesn't come out exactly private life . hmm if we cut it out, we never unwittingly laid out a conversation. yes, we never publish it. it's not in our rules. what about? i think that hypothetical i then said that if we

felt this person, and we would consider that it is not worth publishing with him. we wouldn’t have done anything, but such interlocutors have us. not so, well, i mean, well, i mean, are you still so fundamental to cook here? yes, if suddenly there is doubt about the appropriateness, we weigh the pros and cons well, and they tried to prank you somehow. this is a question we get asked all the time. but uh, you can. well, i think it’s quite well, we are called after some loud story by journalists, let’s say they ask something, but you won’t check everyone, for sure from there i’m afraid and let’s send me a letter from the official email no, well , just what will they get out of it, what will they learn? well, some, but you don’t really get news from us. eh, what we publish well. sounds like something we don't talk about

publicly, we're unlikely to say that this is the opposite decision china is fed periodically to call and divorce. well, the truth is, they don't know. we call, but they are all who accidentally fall into some not so long ago, well, not very, apparently, a gifted person wrote. eh, what, i mean, uh, i am a military commissar. e of the central military registration and enlistment office of russia there is such a thing, it turns out and it means urgently for you it’s necessary, which means you should talk to me, but i don’t usually pick up the phone, somehow there’s some kind of incomprehensible call, plus they still call, they call, they call. well, i guess it's something like this. well, he definitely writes. e in telegram right away, which means that there is some kind of chief military commissar. well, i understand that everything is clear with you dear man, dear and then he writes a few days later. i don't reply at all. i

want to mean through belarus and i want to do prank. is it possible to communicate with you somehow there, so about it? me too didn't answer anything. well, because if you're such a prank, you're trying to be stupid. that means that what to discuss with you, but look, and since you said that any person can be, if desired, does this mean that, in principle, it is impossible to protect yourself from this? mm, well, no, i don’t know, something is just one thesis by means of communication the question is different, what is the scope of this divorce, maybe, uh, just if you really treat all these external calls with such a call with caution. yes, then, of course, the chances of breeding are less. here it depends what preparation. the person who wants to do it. well, and accordingly, i think that we can. that is, you would be interested, well, yes, well, depending on what, yes, if

it's interesting, some kind of large-scale divorce. and you assume that there is some kind of option in which you can have a conversation with you like that. when you say , that's what, well, in general, you would not want to say, well , firstly, let's not say so frankly by means of communication, so it would hardly give anything. and secondly, well, once again i will say that what we say publicly is not like contradicts what we really think, therefore we do not see the meaning. thank you. thank you. today we gathered thoughts about prank manipulations and the state of the modern information space. see you again.

hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shlyaprov , this is a hint of space stories. today i am visiting. anna tocheva, cosmonaut training center employee specialist in space nutrition anna you have been working at the cosmonaut training center for a long time and you are an experienced employee. tell me what you do there well, the last 3 years. i do what he cooks. e cosmonauts and astronauts on life support systems of the russian segment of the iss in fact, my laboratory is engaged in training on these systems. these systems include oxygen supply systems. purification, atmospheres, input supply systems, also power supply systems, among others. here, in fact, we train cosmonauts and astronauts how to use these system systems on board the russian segment, and how to properly maintain them. but as you generally got into the space industry. uh,

it was a childhood dream, or somehow by accident. it worked out. i think i had no choice, because i was already born in star city, when there was a military unit. my dad , being a lieutenant, came to star city. and actually, i was already born in the star city and graduated from the school named after pilot cosmonaut vladimir mikhailovich komarov. therefore, i think that one way or another my whole life from the moment of birth. she led me into this industry. well, actually, i ended up in the astronaut training center, that is, from the school bench they were already prepared to work simply in space, well, practically. yes, you can say that. let's talk about the most pleasant thing that astronauts know - this is about space food on earth. and i often get asked this. eh, as with monasteries and do they eat from tubes at all, they really eat, more precisely, the first astronauts ate, they really got food, packed in a form, but it didn’t look like tubes. this is roughly speaking professional language. this some toothpaste. these are tubes of food. yes,

well, that's actually how these stupid ones look. now here. that is, after all, yes, they still exist, and at the moment, there is mustard, honey, seasonings, only we have such things now in these tubes, and at the dawn of astronautics. well, actually, i start with yuri alekseevich gagarin, and indeed the astronauts ate it from the soup. well, for the simple reason that at first it was not clear how the digestive organs would work in weightlessness, how they would absorb useful trace elements from food. that's why, in fact, we need food in the first place, so it was decided that it is necessary to operate food so that it passes through the organs of the digestive system much easier. and here they were convenient because it is a fairly light package. and most importantly, when twisting the cabinet, you can not finish eating it to the end , you can conditionally close it, twist it and put it aside and then, and start the process of eating food again, that is, in this regard

, in all respects, well, it would really be very convenient, but the first astronauts still. the trailer is what they sent in tubes, and there was just borscht and perforated meat . well, at first it was all cold, and only at the unions did the first food warmers appear, so that there was an opportunity to calmly consume already hot food, that the unions were already warming. yes, nine appeared on the union. the first heater writes. that is. well, yes, they were. mostly. these were tubes, then in the process, little by little. already the packaging of space nutrition began to evolve, and in fact, what we come now. this is almost a complete rejection of stupidity. like i said, just mustard, honey and all sorts of spices. now. basically, main courses starters some desserts. the astronauts have it in this form of a tin can. they are of different types. here we have a large tin can of 250 g. there are small jars of 100 g each, and now new

shades have appeared, probably, they have not yet been found slightly thinner jars in which canned fish are stored. well, although, maybe already yes, well, actually in order to such a jar could be used for food. yes , of course, you can open it enough. everything is ready to cook there. you don’t have to . in which electric heaters are installed , jars of five things are inserted into this electric heater, they fit in there. well, the cover of the electric heater closes is clamped button after half an hour. uh, the contents of the jar will warm up to 65°, and now, now it's ready to eat, and hot and tasty in addition. this is about cans. and space bread is inserted into the electric food warmer. it's also quite popular. and what is interesting about this bread.

eh, what, uh, this is how it looks like. it looks like these chocolates, which are divided into squares according to the same principle. yes, that's right, the size is 10 cm. yes, yes, this is done in order to as they say one cube for one bite, because any crumb that flies away in zero gravity can get into the respiratory tract. can get into the eye of anything pleasant. no, god forbid it will be painfully unpleasant, therefore, actually trying to get rid of the crumbs at the station yes and to minimize the amount of garbage that flies around the astronauts bread is also heated. well, i think that any housewife on earth knows that if you put the bread from yesterday in the microwave for 10 seconds, then it will become soft and fluffy. here the same principle, also in electro four things are installed in the heater, a loaf of bread, they are heated together with banks. and it turns out such a delicious, soft bread, moreover, bread, there are different types. yes

, something common. yes there is boro and bread, in fact your foreign colleagues are very fond of fighting different types of bread depending on what kind of bread. actually , the astronaut prefers such bread and puts it in the same video, very tasty honey cakes, our astronauts also praise. it's like a dessert here. well, that's one part of the food types. and another cluster. now occupies just what has replaced it. here are the pipes. this is sublimated food. here in such a form, that is, now there are some second soups. dishes salads are all here in this form, this is how it turns out. we have kharcho soup here, and the views are such a rather strong cracker, but in fact , here is a real kharcho soup. uh, such sublimates are being prepared at the biryulyovo experimental plant, well, the plant that makes space here in our suburbs outside the moscow ring road yes, that’s right, and this plant is right a separate line for the production

of space food. what is actually unique about these products. well, if so, uh, in short, they stand, the cook's aunts cook large vats of that same borscht or soup, kharcho, then this soup is completely ready to be frozen, sent to a vacuum chamber and slowly warmed up. thus . we have water from a solid state from a state of ice. immediately passes into the gaseous bypassing the liquid phase. and it turns out that droplets of water. here, water molecules leave every pore of the product absolutely every and further. all this is packaged in briquettes and vacuum packaging. the advantage of such packaging is that we have no access to oxygen in the product for two batteries, there is absolutely no water, there is absolutely nothing to spoil. and in this form there is an expiration date. yes, let's talk about it now. yes? i mean, it will be stored in this form. in fact , many many years, but the expiration date, yes, as you pointed out, it is indicated on each product, but this is the expiration date for

delivery on board, and, as it were, pref. it is negative for this product to have time on board eat this nineteenth year. ay, when the expiration date comes out, here it is, for 2 years it can be stored and the nineteenth year the expiration date has expired, right? brought delay. i hope we don't get to the point of sitting down today. although it 's not evening yet. i mean, another big plus is that this package becomes lighter. yes, i just wanted to say by this, what is the advantage? yes, not only does nothing get here that could spoil the product, but this packaging is much lighter in weight by weight than the same lips and in volume. yes, they are very important when delivery set certainly. very important. yes, well, and in fact, so that the astronaut can use this kharcho soup, do not gnaw it in the form of a cracker. uh, eat it like soup. as we are used to. uh, the packaging has a special two-end special places.

so from this end the package, and cosmonauts is cut along the colored line. and with this dovetail it is pulled onto the fitting of a special system for the block e, distribution and heating, how will water flow from it? and it says on every package. how much water is needed for this product in order for it to recover and become the consistency that, in the end, yes, but basically, when we fill soups, of course you want to fill it with hot water. i think it says on the package. how long does it take for this product to recover? in this case, 15 minutes will be enough for us and our soup will be ready to cook. mm. we still keep such a boot warm clothes. yes , yes, after we fill it, we put it there, so that it will work even longer, so that it feeds longer, because if there is meat, it is very

it doesn’t absorb water well, it becomes hard, so we still don’t even have chefs there, but we ourselves, as space chefs, cook what didn’t work out no one will tell. here. well, if we are talking about the first course, this is so that the soup from this package does not need to be poured into the restaurant, we just turn the package over with the other end and here, if you make an incision, then the tube will come out and it’s very convenient from the tube. product to use. here in this form. that's how i said, there are soups, the second dishes. there will no longer be this tube at the end, that is, after refueling after restoration, it will be necessary to cut it and, in fact, it is conveniently quite convenient. eating with a spoon or squeezing? yes, as for drinks, drinks are also available in sublimated form. these are jelly juices. uh, milk is sublimated. but if we are talking about coffee tea, then in this form, packaged tea bags. yes, an absolutely ordinary bag for everyone familiar with a tea bag. if this is

part of the sugar, then there will still be this one. here a spoonful of sugar is poured. why a bag in a bag? well, is this what you came up with? yes , very tasty cocoa. and at the cosmonauts, i tried not so long ago insanely delicious cocoa, which is natural. mostly one package, but two hits yes, two hits, some kind of marriage, probably, but we like it. yes, thank god, drinks are often enough for a lot of food and yes, we have a margin. that is, even if, god forbid, a truck does not come, but i think we will still live on the reserves that you have for three months to deliver special food with a supply and plus the food that is delivered with each truck in the form of fresh vegetables and fruits. yes, these are bonuses. although, we have bonus containers. and uh. these are containers. m-m bonus , we still call foreign food, that is , this is what we chose after trying

the food. uh, we used to be able to take half of the products from us from the russian one , somehow, mixing it for half a year. it was normal now. uh, we just have bonus containers. that is, i don’t know the expedition, 2 3 4. i recently cook. astronauts in flight, they also complain that they now give them very little russian food. so i guess if it's on both sides, well anyway, we have an exchange. uh. i know for sure our colleagues love cottage cheese very much. here we were talking about bread, for example, black borodinsky and the guys are happy to ask. well, what to change for and brings what you like from uh, uh diet of american cuisine, and we calmly exchange, but most of all we eat joint food when we are on friday and in saturday we are going, either on the russian segment or on the american one. that is, if they come to visit us, we clog. hmm, there are two heaters, yes, that is, we clog everything with cans. well, sometimes you ask what

you prefer about her. e from russian food. that is, we are preparing it, we invite everyone to gosyu. here everyone gathers around the table, discussing the news. uh, well, just how the week went by and we consume russian the next day on saturday, according to tradition, we are already trying to prepare for the american segment for us something delicious from the american diet of sweets. which ones did you like the most there? i'm not interested at all. i don’t like them, so i didn’t care what they had or what we had, i was distributed to everyone. not in space. yes, although the support group is trying to convey to us. i don't know, some sweets, chocolates, sweets. mm, marshmallows, our colleagues in america are very fond of not marshmallows. and it turns out to be very tasty. many astronauts said that if they don’t eat sweet things on earth, well, in principle, they are somehow indifferent as for something upstairs on the iss , i really want something sweet, apparently, the receptors, it still requires some new sensations,

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