here is the third criterion point actually. yes , the perception of the surrounding reality. there is such a fantastic story wonderful i don't remember the author of the noise level called about how it was allegedly falsified. uh, the anti-gravity engine was invented, they showed a video of man crashed and gathered scientists of all stripes in his laboratory. well, they hoaxed, and they said. look here. here is the result. yes, that's what he was doing, go for it, and in fact they are the same. this is very close to what you said, they just demolished the borders they they demolished the framework that antigravity is impossible, yes, and people, and there was the chemistry of english history, some ancient indian literature and philosophy. there are almost works on the study of the antoinette. they created an anti-gravity platform there a month later, but the size of there is like 20 by 20 m . well sorry to say so yes that guys. that’s what the invention of antigravity is, it’s clear that the story is fantastic, but there is a share of this fantasy in the methods that hse uses as students of such, well, actually science, associated with the apparatus of higher mathematics as economics. you demolish stereotyped thinking,

boundaries. this is the goal or so it turns out that this is, in principle, the goal itself. unfortunately, it is far from always achieved simply, because , unfortunately, after school education. we often come across guys who really come from the fact that there should be one answer to everything, but we really try, and initially students. and to direct them to form some economic thinking, which would just allow for diversity; moreover, one of of our most sought-after programmes, it is the graduates who are the highest paid have a training program built very closely to the british librards system. the program is economic, but students have the opportunity to listen to a huge number of disciplines and philosophy , astrophysics, and something else, and within the overall educational model above the school of economics for students. there is the so-called major core of education and also the student of any educational program. and only economists should get some miner. these are four academic disciplines that are studied throughout. a 2-year

student-economist can have a core in economics and a major, for example, in psychology , and we get a very interesting combination when a student has the opportunity to use psychology approaches in economic analysis. and this is a very effective direction. that is , in fact, this is already a stepping stone to the next education, because, for example, when i speak to my children, i speak. no need to kill yourself in what first higher education you will receive, because in five in 10 years, such changes can occur that your life situation itself will tell you that you need to get a different education. this is a step here, that is, in fact , these yes, while we say miner miners, yes , minor yes even happiness, that is, they, uh, actually prompt students. where they develop further we have a base in the economy. this is some logical addition so that the student does not turn out to be one block, but the main idea is what, and a student of a good university is a strong student, he is primarily at the exit. eh, will be able to continue to learn further. this is

the main task of a bachelor's degree to teach a person to learn all his life. yes, yes it is, but in fact, this is what we are. well, you, too , probably took it out of the soviet education system. and you, by the way, what university did you graduate from, when i graduated from the moscow institute of electronics, mathematics, it was independent. i graduated from the faculty of applied mathematics. then, unfortunately, i lost my second education, my second education. i had a higher school of economics. now miem. this is the faculty. you are the school of economics so i just graduated from two faculties of bravo that is , you have not actually changed. carefully so it turned out that you finished perfectly. well, that is, you have finished, in fact, you clearly confirmed your thesis that you do not need to have, and allergies to higher mathematics, on the contrary, you need to love it, but actually, i will finish the idea that we were taught that the most important thing is, what a university teaches is to teach learning there teaches to learn, yes, that's the very process that you correctly said to always acquire knowledge. the most famous graduates of the faculty

economic sciences now you can call and in order. just those names that are well-known, well, the minister of axio oreshkin is well-known to the heads of the money-loan policy department kirill trimasov, business structures, your graduates find their use growing up. i don’t know management up to the heights there. how much, by the way, here. let's even formulate the question this way, as far as being an economist, but just becoming a manager and head of a company in the end. or is it easier to do a lawyer. or is it easier to do it there for a marketer or suzu here with your practice from your point of view. a rather difficult question, why? because an economist, uh, very often can follow a path within the framework that he does not want to become a big boss simply because he thinks he analyzes, but nevertheless. but in principle, uh, from my point of view, uh, it is possible to achieve leadership positions, both in government and in business, not thanks

to any particular profession, thanks to the mindset, there is the first and so on, and in this sense, really, uh, there are examples when people become ministers, and with a few other specialized education, but in the case of economists, indeed, but this ability to think is multifaceted in a complex way. she somehow rescues the question. ah, probably not easy. uh, in the twenty-third year abroad, your trifles are quoted now 15 years ago, when our graduates entered the western phd master's programs, and you just heard highschool economics fake questions. e what is it? then we became a brand indeed, and students. e, educated towers, but have such a serious base that they easy enough to continue learning. uh-huh, and many of our students have achieved success, including entering the e-world economics.

uh, that is, they finish a favorable or do not finish ibn, covariate and magistracy here and there are already going even further to develop a magistracy already there, just such cases , that is, someone, uh, left for a magistracy from a bachelor's degree, someone graduated from uh , magistracy, then left for phd programs. but by the way, from the point of view of economic science. is it europe or america or even asia maybe in some economic science is concentrated in america just look objectively at the list of nobel laureates most of them. e work with american universities. clearly there are some trends to return, huh? economists back or in principle, it is not fundamental to keep the science of the trend there, and moreover, there is a corresponding intention. we started with the fact that our graduates really left. ah, continue studying abroad, but for the past 15 years, we are in the framework of the international recruitment, but recruiting. uh, special positions of colleagues who received a

phd degree in western universities and are just the majority among them. are they those who once graduated from moscow state university or our strong regions? uh-huh well, they themselves mentioned it. i'll start from afar, as you know. that's what i finished in moscow things, it was formed in the late forties from fifa to moscow state university and then it already began there. well, just like we have, uh, a joke at the physics and technology department, the moscow state university and the physics and technology department are arguing, uh, two flags on russian science. which of them is the main one, and which the only you in what relationship are you in terms of? here is a competitor, not competitors , or in general, you are doing different things, well, from your point of view, and the economic fact of the gru and the faculty of economic sciences of the higher school of economics well, really here, as we know. the same hse story arose when yaroslav kuzminov and other powerful economists left moscow state university in order to create a new kind of e-commerce for the present. we are

competitors with the economic factor of moscow state university. this is one of our main competitors. and i, as dean, am very glad that we have such a competitor. in fact , we economists know that in so many aspects of competition - this is the engine of the engine, of course. this is everywhere , so who is not happy if in the cell of economic sciences or economics moscow state university will be the only guy in the village there are still applicants for participation in this race of the two strongest or this. uh, you know how oxford cambris is? yes, here are two kayaks they are swimming and that's it. and you don’t have anyone else here , you still swam in, you know, in the case of the faculty of economics of moscow state university. very similar model. education from the point of view of the great role of fundamental education is higher mathematics, a. but there are other strong competitors that specialize in slightly different aspects. well, for example, in the financial academy, to a greater extent, it focuses on specific narrow financial specializations. x is definitely a strong university. well, our federal universities in the regions are also quite

strong, uh, this is novosibirsk tomsk, which is what ural federal university and novosibirsk are naturally state university, kazan are certainly strong. and in this sense, we understand that it is very important for us to maintain contacts with our regional universities. and with, for example, a distant juicy federal university. we have a joint program. there is a joint program with northeastern federal university. we understand that an important moment for the development of economic education in russia is the construction of some network forms, of course, this is a very successful practice by foreign universities. do you have any similar programs. economic similar there were programs, but it is clear that in the current circumstances there are obvious difficulties. something remains, or even at the level of professorial staff at the level of researchers, most of the contacts have been preserved. and we remain on the international scientific agenda. what is the ratio of those who come from the region? moreover, he does not submit documents, namely

, residents of large uh regions also enter at the end. first of all, the capital is moscow and st. petersburg well, probably, uh, if we take our direction, then somewhere, probably, percent 40 percent comes from the regions, 60 percent from moscow and the region, that is, smart guys go, mostly winners of the olympiads. here, what ratio does not necessarily burn out the olympiads most often, and large cities or really large cities win more often. but from the outback there are also often very strong guys, very talented guys. what is the average score e, let's say, how much higher is there, above 80, above 85, above 90 , you need to pass the use 95 to enter the faculty of economic sciences of the tower. that is this is what we have there, i correctly understand that this is russian, and mathematics is english and the choice is either social science or computer science. you are more than what you need more than 85-90 or 95%

more than 95, but, nevertheless. eh, feature. e lies in the fact that students have the opportunity, having reached certain points, which may be lower than the passing ones , to enter commerce with a good discount of up to 70% hmm , there is a chance, then transfer entirely to the budget. there is what you need to do to enter the top, for this you need to enter a certain current, well we have rules expressed on our pages. you can study them. and for this you have to remove someone from the budget. no, that is, it is an additional budget. and places that are what we call quasi-budget places, and the higher school of economics , by and large, teaches part of the students at their own expense . school of economics is doing the same fine redistribution in favor of talented guys who may not have had enough points

to pass on a budget that cannot pay the full cost that they would like to ah. this is a very commendable selection. this is an easy money podcast, i am its host mikhail khanov, and today our topic is a new generation of economists new in economic education in russia sergey's question is probably sad. tell me please. how many people as a percentage swim to the end of this swim. if you can put it this way here the dean of the faculty of computational mathematics, cybernetics, said that only 47% of those who submitted documents 6 years ago received diplomas this year, that is, they graduated from a favorable master's program. here is the actual quantity. they specifically counted 47%. do you have some kind of number or do not keep it like that. by the way, well, we keep such statistics. i cannot say that we are conducting it purposefully. there are several considerations here, the first considerations, and someone does not swim, someone swims more slowly in the sense that it is possible to ah. you may not be able to deal with

learning take to make perfect curricula to continue learning. so it was possible. yes, is it called academy or not? or something is not. that's exactly it. individual curriculum, when a student uh continues to study, but he is forced to wait for those disciplines that he did not know, if within six years or you add this within the framework. uh, four-year-years of study, if uh, the number of unreleased disciplines is critically large, then sometimes students hmm drop down a course. this is the first consideration. the second consideration. a after all, it is very important what kind of selection a is and when entering us, the selection is so large that, in principle, most students cope, but, nevertheless, the largest dropout occurs in the first years of study. yes, the first second year, yes, it is often 20-30% is lost. well, in principle, the remaining 70 there, for example, if at least, they reach the end to the end. well, this is a very high result, but on the other hand. you

understand, yes, what with such chiefs, as if correctly said the initial conditions. there but initially some guys go, so everything should work out. and also with what the tower offers in quality. yes, this is the core and minor discipline. well, i would be so court. well, actually, this is how i studied, because we had such a program in a single university. i think that now this is actually, really, such a question is very commendable. sergei already what is called anabolic? yes, we talked about how hard or not hard it will be for students. how good it is to become a graduate of such a prestigious why does the university lack a teacher? i think not here. e universal considerations are not enough overpaid for anyone. university money. a well, in principle, yes, it is clear that e professorial staff. this is not the highest paid people in the country, but nonetheless. uh, people, including your humble words, consciously choose this profession, because we like to work with young people. we like to have sex work is

a mission. and so, yes, this is a mission and in this sense, we are really engaged in what it is interesting to us. well, to say that we exist. uh, in a circular, probably, it’s also impossible, because firstly, we are one of the best universities in the country, our government finances quite well, we are a university that not only lives on public money, but earns money, how education distributes it in the market yes , somehow somehow higher education in the market of additional education in the field, consulting and so on. therefore, in principle, for young e guys who, after a master's degree, are thinking about it, do not go or graduate school does not continue an academic career is quite a lot of opportunities. i can’t say that a master’s degree graduate, if he stays with us at work, will immediately receive 200,000 rubles. this prefaces my questions. this is bravo, but in principle, after graduating from graduate school and doing business, being in demand , he can come out comparable to the mind. well, that's

great. what is the average age of the professor left now, well, roughly i think it 's somewhere around, probably 45 years old, but it's very young i think really, well, uh and the hse university contributes to some kind of economic sciences quite a young university, and we understand that e active and research work people are most effectively engaged at the age of 25-35 years. your humble servant. i have already dropped out of this age, but it gives me great pleasure to work as students with graduate students. economic science is developing rapidly, where do you draw new trends from, how important is it now to attend international conferences. or all the works are published online and there is the possibility of them read to get acquainted, and not in the public domain, or is it still some kind of secret material. naturally, we attend conferences and read magazines. and here there are quite a lot of options, and again, everything

is determined by modern technologies for disseminating knowledge. it is clear that 50 years ago one had to either physically go to the library to take a printed paper magazine from the shelf, or really go to a conference now. and we have uh, e-subscriptions, e-zines and just about anything . we can find in this way. and what about the question? er, where is modern science going? what kind of eternally we need, how volatile everything is here, it is important to understand what kind of things, on the one hand , something is in time, so to speak , january. well, using this example, we are trying to understand, uh, the nature of the financial crisis to predict the future crisis, then we understand that the cause of the financial crisis, both 100 years ago and now, is, well, if you like, greed, greed of talk, not for negative profits sides. unfortunately competition in this sense is january. if we want to understand why there is bank loans from western countries. now we need to look at the financial technologies

that are used in today's financial institutions, which may not have existed 100 years ago. well, on a professional level, those people who are involved in risk management and strategic planning and monthly, that is, psychology is psychology. yes, absolutely right. we return again with the same greed, the last question sergey is your recipe for happiness, and some kind of personal wealth, that happiness is not in money, but not in a certain level of wealth, and economists know that simply looking at income or wealth is useless because, in the first place, uh, they don't determine the parts and standard of living. secondly, uh, they change over time. and we understand that people 100 years ago received income ten times less rich ten times less, this does not mean that they were ten times not happy for some kind of happiness. demand demand and, uh, ability, and develop sergey thank you very much for your conversation for your answers

it was very interesting. our guest was the dean of the faculty of economic sciences of the higher school of economics sergey edmundovich pekarskikh. thank you. hello this is a podcast, paws. my name is dmitry bak and we have a literary clue under a wonderful name. let them not speak. let them read, you can read in any situation, you can read in the evening on a sofa under a floor lamp, you can read in a tent, you can read in space , you can even read in the theater during the intermission, if you don’t understand everything, from the first act, this is especially important, because today we have away a wonderful person - this is a playwright and director of the kolyada theater, his surname is consonant with the theater. as you well guessed. our guest is nikolai kolyada hello

nikolai but dmitry, here we are discussing behind the scenes with you. how are your notebooks? of course, here , uh, a lot could be attributed to you of all sorts of properties, because you are a man of orchestras - everyone knows this. you said that in the theater there are cleaners and a cashier. well, yes, yes, i will do everything in a private theater, so i do all some kind of commercials. uh, there is an answer. i write plays, put on plays. i'm heading for the light think about costumes. i even write music dmitry i'm ashamed to admit it. well, really, but think it's a good life. well, write covers. yes, the plays, see for yourself. i mean , i don’t have my own, i can’t watch concerts. here are the conservatories that have already been made. i love to rehearse. this is to indulge. you will come to the process, the artists laugh. let's do it. let's, just like in childhood from my mother's curtains of a stick. let's do theatre, let's do something fun. but when you sit down, the audience sits

down and you look ready, the performance, the audience is not bored. how i want to jump out onto the stage from the curtain yelling fire and i want to clean up all the artists, so that everything is the same, they do everything wrong. just like the audience. in general , i take it easy. and they start beating me like that. i then just sleep. can why do i need these nerves? that is, i made a play, they go on 15-17. i have king lear going there for 14 years. i play the queen. hamlet is coming. uh, i'm playing shadows, gypsy. it's 12 years old. well, there are performances a lot, a lot or what will i watch them the actors know what the person who has been playing the shadow for many years knows his business. it certainly is. yes, yes, yes, yes, that's all, if you listen with all your heart and listen to my duty, and then take revenge when you hear everything. i am the spirit of your own father. she is

condemned to wander for some time. i remember, of course, to be lifelike. eh, that's the question worthy to perform. oh, resistance is the worst. this is the worst thing about being mortal. yes, yes, no one returned from there. no, you are the worst out there. such words that to be a mockery of those who are not fit and she laughs at you, scoundrels and people who are not worthy of you, these are the most terrible words. and then you turned around. yeah, eyes with eyes into the soul and there everywhere is not inside, but in the stuffy five translations there is a parsnip soul you turned your eyes with pupils into the soul and there is a spot everywhere that gertrude hamlet says or when he says that he knows, right? why did his beloved father die, and her beloved husband. what do you think, what are we doing now? what are we talking about literature or theater at the moment? just

chatting chatting nogamete. yes, perhaps, but the most disturbing works from hamlet are the four captains. yes, the last line is some kind of further silence or all other silence, when oleg, i saw my artist, he reads a monologue, e, to be or not to be, and every time i stand behind the scenes. when he starts screaming to be or not to be? that's the question, i 'll tell you the truth. i'm in tears because he makes them grand in the first place. secondly, there is some text, but, why? why live when everything is decided, when all of our problems solve blows? wait for the stings, i think that's all. oleg berry. well, a legendary actor. who doesn't know, yes, that's true, but uh, does this text need to be performed? after all, there is a german concept of drama, that is, a drama for reading, because everything is in the text. imagine i'm talking. i tell you and those who hear us that hamlet, who loved his father, knows for sure. eh, who is responsible

for death? is it easy for him to kill a person? yes , easily polonium rats here once through the park, for example rats and then all over the castle. well , just kill a man, well, or him playing the role of a madman, but it doesn't matter. here instead of going and killing. my god. how gullible he is. and here what kind of dreams does he have a deadly dream, and here it is necessary to kill the monologue, by the way, here to be or not to be , i rearranged it in the second act, because in the first act for no reason, for no reason, he walks, you know, he walks says to be or not to be, and i put it in the second act, when he says, poor her or in the cemetery to lay out some kind of cross from these bones and then says to be or not to be. that's what a question, because when we were rehearsing, yagodin asked, why did he suddenly start with the first act, there is no reason yet, but he already immediately says what i'm talking about. why live? then? everything is possible in the second act is very logical. everything, forgive that they simplify. no, it

seems to me, but something like that is not there, logic. tolstoy, gorky gogol, you know our great ones, you know, all the billions walk around. nikolai there is enough space. i understood everything. remember what i said. eh, tolstoy is czech, and he spoke roughly. so, well, shakespeare is a barbarian, of course, your play is even worse. yes? yes, they say he is shakespeare the barbarian. de chekhov, i must tell the truth, if boring, well , we will discuss this too, especially since i will read today the beginning of the decision garden about opinion, because the search is still ahead.