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[000:00:00;00] in the first series, he removed a, but inserted into the second this is the prologue about little ivan yes, and it seems to me that she is very interesting in the second series, lay down like memories and uh, he tried in the second series, in general, to insert everything that everything is possible that and maybe, yes, according to censorship, but it is interesting and, as it were , the development of the plot, how we non-linearly talk, but we talk. well, like in a detective, but we 'll see there now, a flashback, and not of course , this delay in filming. she also contributed to the fact that we have a color
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a fragment, but ivan the terrible and actually, of course, this terrible image of this screaming oprichna, who scream burn burn burn, burn. actually, before that, they are urged on by ivan who starts just the first to exclaim burn. they pick up just about the same time everything else - this film was already filmed in black and white, and therefore , in particular, uh, after the color episode, there should be a black and white episode of the murder of vladimir starinsky one of the main episodes. strictly speaking, the second series and uh, so there must have been some transition from einstein thought up in such a way that vladimir staretsky at the end of the color episode. already about to go to the cathedral, where, as he understands, a murder is prepared for him. and in general, why does he understand this, because he knows that they are going to kill
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the king there, but the king dressed him in royal clothes, and therefore he goes there instead of the king. you understand that he is going to die, you understand not immediately, because he is drunk and not very good at all, but sobering up is relevant. they hunt and when he comes to the door and realizes that he has to go there now into this line, then such a huge blue spot floats on him, like such a harbinger of death. we can see this transition to black and white. and by the way, in the original copies of the imprint operators by muscovites, at first, unfortunately, we can’t see it now, but what he saw there was painted blue in a single color, so through this blue there was a transition to death. here's to this topic, e murders, but then the episode went on in black and white. e of the murder of vladimir staritsky , which begins with the fact that vladimir is very goes for a long time with a property candle , at first he wanted to build the scenery
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in such a way that there was a very long passage. eh, and eh, he even worked out approximately, but the composition of this pavilion, in which and and then, but in general it was clear that it was very difficult to remove these melodically for so long, because you need to build this one. very long, and the passage on the other side. this, in general, would cause again all the same accusations of formalism, that he revels too much in this anticipation of death. although there, of course, does not revel, just uh immerses the viewer in some such trance state until he wanted to, at least he left the passage so long, of course, not so long, but still this is this immersion in darkness, and boris volsky, who was sound-reduced on this film memoirs write that from einstein asked him to record music, which so, soaring then calmly record it. and so that it either
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comes out louder, then comes out quieter in the rhythm of labor pains, this is the instruction that stein gave, because he develops together. this is the way to death. this is the return to the womb. mother and the earth yes, on the one hand, this is such a psychological tractor, what is this move, and on the other hand, it is quite such a plot realistic. yes, and the old man returns there. where did this and the lighting come from, how he walks with this candle, and such a column of light falls on him and is shown in
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music and in sound. the lord does something. this is the story of how a person is longer and longer, staying here on this royal throne. he more and more maddening gradually. and uh, at the same time, of course, we understand that in those years, uh, from einstein, uh, did a very brave act of citizenship. e, thus, he actually expressed it to stalin, because he understood that stalin was waiting for another , that stalin was very zealous about this plan, and there is even such an apocryphal neopographer . film crew. what is it, uh, is ivan the tsar repenting? well thunderstorms, well he, uh, he killed someone. well, it
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happens to kings. and what of eisenstein, right in front of the film crew, said to en, well, stalin killed even more people, maybe he will look and also repent and start something like this. this is more like pokrief, yes, although on the other hand. in general, e authority from einstein was indisputable to the film crew and, on the other hand, creative. here is the state , of course, well, that is, at least in the memoirs of one of the actors this story is, but there are also memories of how watched the film, and in my opinion, this is yuzovsky, writes a wonderful theater critic that everyone who watched understood what it meant to say, but they couldn’t say it out loud, but he spoke. and why does it seem to you that something is not right here, i can redo it, and mikhail bayman also recalls roma. here is the feeling. who is ivan ivan as stalin yes, it prevailed. it seems to me that on the other hand here, if it were a pan-flat showing,
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uh, stalin through the figure of grozny, then he would have remained in the forties, but this film, and therefore it is important that here there is not a single layer, here it is also historical artistically here. very uh, such a big cake, uh, and very tasty for any audience. here, uh, you don't have to read it. these are all some subtexts and giantstein, deliberately creating so many echoes and different cultural currents that, in general, this film allows us to perceive as a kind of labyrinth through which the viewer walks and finds something , maybe that einstein is there and did not leave for him, but, by the way, the labyrinth is just what eisenstein wanted to put in there, because for him a detective story, as a form of telling a story, as a form of following a story. she is especially important at this moment. in principle, he loved detective stories from childhood, he talked about it , forced students to read already in the twenties, but it was terrible for him
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, including such an experience in creating a detective story. no no. in the sense that, uh, ivan is investigating the murder of anastasia, she, of course, also does that. we have a small snippet. just related to anastasia, maybe see to whom i pretend to shoot the head, the king did the most ardently to avoid the head will be unhappy. it is impossible to uproot the boyar betrayal by the roots without a holder of a thunderstorm. how is a horse from a king without an uzbek? officership beskhody and who is the tsar against the enemy firmly stands? but the king
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raises to majesty. rejoices on the path of great service, i stand faithful servant and actually, as it is said here, that the kingdom cannot stand without a thunderstorm, then how ivan consoles himself, how he justifies himself. e, the fact that e is a king, he cannot but be terrible, but a similar temptation of power, in general, gives the profession of a director, and in this sense, it is significant that eisenstein is not only even uh, thinking about the possible prototypes of ivan, taking individual features. he, after all, relied on his acquaintance with meyerhold, who was in many ways such a director
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, demiurge director, tyrant. in general, uh, and uh, at least they threw it at a wonderful historian, they have, before konstantinovich kozlova, uh, the hypothesis that this is, in general, to a certain extent, a portrait of emerhold in the role of the terrible because there is even a similarity and that portrait of the mercult, which mercul gave. we even know that eisenstein used to take the rings that belonged to meyer. the one that the svirshubs had when you were a secretary, and meyerhold and now she had these rings for some reason, on the other hand, eisenstein as a director himself understood what this art of power was, he recalls, working just on e ivan's childhood scene for the script, he recalls how uh hmm he yelled at the film crew for the first time on the set and how he was still shooting a car. he at some point
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shouted. eh, hmm arranged. uh, the scene and i thought that now everything just the film crew would turn around and leave and say, and someone would scream at us. and after that it turned out that no, it turns out. this works and it turned out that after he shouted at the group everyone became absolutely, like silk everything stein's performance shoves everything into grozny. he also writes in some place that grozny is similar to his father, who made such a selfie maned himself too. sometimes memories of father terrible, on the other hand, are here, and ivan is a little bit the most zenstein or eisenstein a little ivan a. he also manages, he also collects, and he reads reality in different ways, and in principle for eisenstein the terrible is still a mirror that reflects the rest of the heroes or the hero from the mirror that reflects ivan . here is some kind of structure where a all those who surround ivan they are actually part of his
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personality, and anastasia is understandable. this is his good side, yes, kurbsky, who actually plays from michael named. he is generally a reflection of ivan, he is the moon, as einstein wrote to the sun of ivan really. even i wanted to draw the corresponding images on the armor. we have a small fragment, bracketed throne. anastasia and in general, the first series came out on the screen quite safely in january forty -fifth and e, a year later the stalin prize came out. this is exactly the year when work on the second series was completed. after that, he had a heart attack because he knew that stalin would now look at the second one and something would happen already in the kemerovo hospital. he learned that the second series will not be released. u
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on the screens and uh, hmm stalin was in general one can say in a rage, because ah, when a year and a half later, yes , eisenstein met from stalin and cherkasov was at this meeting. well, the members of the bureau were firing, and stalin began a conversation with words, and at least they read a little about history, if einstein answered a little, and in general it was clear further that they already began to prefer to turn to the cherkasy, who kept much more er, so correct in relation to stalin, but the fact is that here historically, of course, we understand that, in general, this a film, uh, in which some accents are shifted not in order to break the story a from einstein right in the historical commentary. to the script partially published writes that lo uh, this episode actually was different, but in order to bring out the character, the character's genuine real character. there is no timing to
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show each biography of each character, so individual events are displaced here, just in order to reveal the true essence of historical processes. actually , i didn’t write to him about it, then charlie said chaplin, because what infuriated the members of the polyveron, the artists of the world noticed the second series already in the first series, which was only available to them. yes, there jules-vet writes a letter to him, and even in the winter, and forty-five it seems, here, uh, how what a wonderful government that allowed such a wonderful film to be made the second series, fortunately it came down to us, it was saved. and e in the fifty-eighth year it appeared on the screens, the third series, on the contrary, did not reach us. we have a script that has been published and, in general, we can compose a certain presentation. how this idea developed and, nevertheless, what they managed to shoot for the third series in parallel, was filmed. in general, except for tiny pieces. uh, almost all e died after death in einstein's life at
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the turn of 40-50. and it is very important that this film is really such a complex work. and, uh, this is participation in many processes. and this is an invitation to creativity, because here, on the one hand, it seems, yes, we see the history of a certain person. well, first of all, on my own. here it is the story of a man who, under the burden of power , goes crazy. it is almost as emblematic as the story of othello macbeth or e. boris godunov on the other hand. there are so many artistic touches here that are not necessary. nagy that can be touched upon while passing through this labyrinth, and therefore it is interesting for the next generations to walk through it. in fact, many more years to come. eh, let's hope people will take on more and more interesting features from this film, students
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sometimes ask. but, in principle, we why, uh, so long ago, but unfinished, and i usually tell students that eisenstein, uh , invested so much in it that we can get out of it what we need, but we are already a little creator ourselves, we work with media yes, we take pictures. we shoot a video, we paste something there , we add something, and what eisenstein makes color into color. yes, for us, it may be too difficult. maybe we won’t do it in reality, but to know that this is how you can know that you can record music like this. i think this is what else is layered on these plot ones. to knowledge about those periods that are affected in the film and in the history of its creation, and how much this film is really for those who see, but deeper or want to see deeper. it seems to me that this is really such a little, uh, intellectually educational and at the same time fascinating discovery,
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because yes. in general, uh, he is both right and wrong, because just uh, this is the desire to see that every viewer has it the same way and the film invites to this. it was podcast siesenstein 125 in the studio were the history of cinema natalya ryabchikova and cinema. hello this is a podcast of the psyche, where we, together with the candidate of psychological sciences, clinical psychologist mikhail khors, continue to disassemble and reassemble the mosaic of human destinies. well, as we can, we inspire it to make the world more beautiful , calmer, your friends for joy. our today's heroine came to us with such a request. she has a daughter and a younger son. she adores her youngest son. but her daughter's relationship is not going well. she
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gets annoyed with her daughter and not very much, of course, she likes this situation. anastasia bakunina will tell us her story. hello anastasia, hello, i stated the correctness. yes, there is such a problem, there is a daughter. yes, i have two children and my oldest daughter. she is almost 10 years old and his son is 4 years old. a and c. in general, here with the advent of a son. yes, i really felt the contrast in the relationship with my daughter and son. if the relationship with the son is, well, such a musi-pusi, yes, i want to kiss him there , caress him, hug him, yes, then with my daughter. hmm, there is one. well, what about aggression? yes, as if i break down on her, no, mutual understanding in relations with her. yes. in general, here is a contrast, it is very directly felt, this topic really worries me, because i would like there to be harmony, mutual understanding with themselves by their children.
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so i would like to find out the reason why this is happening, and it immediately began when your boy was born, and you know, yes, the first six months, as soon as the son appeared. yes, there was jealousy that i pay more attention to the child, everything for him. she then just went to first grade and really all the attention given to the baby. well, no, of course, uh, of course, for me, always both children, like, i love them both. the little one just needed more attention. yes, well, i think it is not necessary to tell about it. yes, that is, but it seemed to her that i paid more attention, that as if she directly told me so, you love him more. despite the fact that before the relationship with her daughter was good. yes, but ah, there was such a moment that, and when she was just born, when she was also the same age, somewhere from six months to somewhere up to three years. and i broke up with with her ex-husband, that is, her dad, yes, with her dad, a and e happened. so i had to
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raise my daughter alone. that is, i was both mom and dad, and two in one. that is, i had to deal with his upbringing and earn money somehow to arrange my life. so i spent a lot of time directly. well, as if earning money, but who was the girl with who helped you help me? my mom well done grandma was there. yes, my mother was there, she helped me a lot despite the fact that i had a relationship we weren't good then, just like that . now it seems to me, yes, there is something to compare, what a daughter turns out. here in this e age up to 3 years. i paid less attention than. now, uh, how i analyze, i give to my son, here, and in general, the problem is such that i break out of my aggression on her. can you describe this situation in which you break down and you, here, are especially ashamed of what happened. well, either you are worried, so about it directly. let's face it,
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of course, there are such situations. well, here for example, it annoys me that she, for example, scatters things there and doesn’t clean up after herself ; they annoy me that she doesn’t obey me. why am i from the word we are not 10 in response. here, ah , that is, she has her opinion on everything to contradict her, in principle, it annoys you when the child does not clean up. thing, i think it goes. and i even observe this from my mother, because my mother has a priority that there should be cleanliness, that is, it is important for her to quarrel, quarrel with everyone, but the main thing is to be clean. and now you they said yes, and i caught myself thinking that when my mother is not around, sometimes she will come, because i still have a scatter. she has a thing or not scattered. ah, to the daughter, maybe this desire to meet some of the requirements of your mother. well , maybe yes, which means that, most likely,
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this is a requirement for you to be yourself. good and deserve your mother means love and encouragement. your mother is called a good mother. yes, here rather, again, i'm a good daughter. i deserve my mother's encouragement by demanding from my already daughters. yes, this fulfillment of these values that you, uh, your, mom, means, probably, how your irritation manifests itself. still. tell me you don't scream. what are you screaming, i'm screaming. and, well, there, he says, you are a slob. you're a damn girl, now i'm remembering this and remembering my childhood, when my mother said this to me, what are the most offensive words they said, which right now hurt you the most, such a dirty woman, i can call you bold, yes family, and this is right here such. well, yes you have anger at this moment. well, he know how hmm he is not deep. i now released aggression, and i forgot everything, and
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then i walk, i eat very much. after that, we don't always clean everything. well cool, not even how she reacts behavior. how does she react emotionally? do you think it's a trauma for her? or she is so well-preserved light and they called it a pig, and she ran a little there and once, as it were, went about her business. okay well, you know, m-m, probably, but she even often speaks to him now, as if immunity has already developed to this. she says that er, well, as if, as if not to hear these words. well, like, call me whatever you want. well, so, that is, she, apparently she already has so much armor, but it scares me on the one hand, that it doesn’t even touch her anymore. so this is also a question. and this is not good. i think it's a feature. now how old is my son 4 years old. they have a difference of exactly 6 years, and it happens that it irritates you, for example,
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with toys that have not been removed. but no. no, he scattered toys or he says, i don't want to eat or there, what does he do that? something like here he is, if it were, she is your daughter, then she would cause irritation, as you understand, and he does the same, and you somehow suddenly feel that you have a situation. not well, nicolite, this is well, for example, yes, but the question is gadgets. yes. and if a son, for example, watches cartoons, it does not annoy me, as soon as my daughter, but sits on the phone for a long time. it annoys me. i say again on the phone. and you were talking to yourself. why does it infuriate you when your daughter is on the phone? when is the son? no, i didn’t talk, but i have this moment of self-analyses. yes why why so why does it annoy me? oh, well, here she is sitting on the phone, and it infuriates me, as if you don’t want her to do something else. yes , because she’s only on the phone right here anastasia there is a difference. i want my
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daughter to do something else and it annoys me. well, she’s like that, it’s not the same thing, unfortunately, for most people , some kind of motivating signal to change or to influence others is precisely negative emotions, for example, something irritates me, so i influence this world so that it does not irritate me, but it is possible in another way, it means to separate. yes, my emotions from my behavior there or from my reactions and react not because something annoys me, but in order to make this world a better place in order to take care of your daughter, you understand the difference. yes, this is called their motivation in general, there are two in the world of everything globally. pain is motivated. this is the irritation. this is emotional pain, yes, and this is pain, as if with a whip so ran do somewhere. yes, mine is, yes, and there is
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motivation by the goal uh-huh that is, this is the answer to the question. why am i doing something, why, what do i want to improve in this world. uh-huh how i want to be taken care of. and why do i want to take care of my daughter. now, if you keep, uh the question is, why? what for? i forbid her to use gadgets, for what, what will it give her? you can explain it better to her too. uh-huh, it's better to go to the goal, and not run away from the pain nastya a. here. tell me, please, your irritation with your daughter is connected, as it is with yours. mood with your successes and failures. uh, in another life. maybe, by the way, in your personal life you live with your father. oh your boy. so you're single mom again? yes, here are some such troubles at work or fatigue troubles in your personal life. to be honest, i think it's a direct relationship. yes. i think
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that my such breakdowns are attacks of aggression on my daughter. they are connected exclusively with my inner state. or maybe it was michael to ask, really, most likely. well, ask yes but the girls are already 10 years. is it possible for nastya how do you think, at some point, to sit down with her daughter and talk and say, you know, i'm very tired in this, or i have such troubles. i'm sorry, i broke down, because i was in such a state of mind or there is no need to confuse the children. it is in these experiences that the first part of your question does not agree with the second. and once again you asked, can i sit down to talk? yes, you can, but is it worth it to involve children in your experiences, it is better not to involve them well, as it were, that is, to explain, let's ask directly, did you say that when you said those things to them there, daughter forgive me and i'm sorry, so i'm answering questions
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right away, but natalia, can you do this? what how what reaction helps? and you know, here she is, apparently, growing up now, yes, and when such situations occur, and i say, daughter well, you got it up there again and just got out again, divorced, a mess at home. she scattered everything there, and she is already coming, mommy, i'm sorry that i did this. i understand that you are tired. well, now she already has a very great. wow, but probably the last maybe a year and a half, i began to talk about the fact that my daughter. i'm sorry i fell for you. this has nothing to do with my mistake, a small one, yes, that is, you take everything on yourself here. uh huh, anyway. eh , of course, part of what you broke down depends on your fatigue from your tension there from your events in some other areas of life, but part of it all the same. yes, and uh,
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your daughter's behavior. uh-huh that's why i can even assume that she sometimes sleep. greasy does something to get your attention. now it is important, because, perhaps, she lacks positive attention with positive emotions, and then children often agree to attention. well, negative emotions. well, at least you understand the attention, yes, that is, to cause some kind of pain, so that mom also got out of her phone and quarreled. well, at least that's it. i think that most likely it is. this is a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist natalya loseva and a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, analyze various everyday household complex and not very situations. and why did you decide to us, when you described your situation, you focused on what it seems to you, or do you think that you love your son
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more than your daughter. here are some of the signs you have decided so, in general , it is generally difficult for me to understand, how can you measure love, after all, such a substance, incalculable. well, anastasia here measures by her behavior by her national condition. yes, i love them both equally, but the daughter is like an irritant, and the son is like a calmer. well, how such a contrast, but i don't i know, maybe this is due to the fact that i used to hear that a well, the love of a mother and son is one love, mother and daughter. this is another love, this is a very common everyday everyday stereotype. mom needs to love her son more than scotch, and even more so if the son is the youngest, by the way, mikhail a, there is some kind of confirmation or explanation for this, that the mother is more attached or may be more loyal to her son, more warm there for him here. see what a story. there are two kinds, love, there is
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love. e, giving. ugh and love limiting means, uh, giving love - this is this caring, understanding warm, caring, gentle, affectionate, forgiving, and so on, limiting love is when we take something from a child out of love for him out of caring for him. here you take away a gadget from your daughter. this is clearly a concern. i'm actually a person now, uh. this is how it works, uh, a family where there is both mom and dad and son and daughter conditionally. yes, it goes crosswise. uh-huh so from the mother comes e, giving, caring love more to the son less than the daughter. uh-huh comes from dad, giving, caring love more than a daughter and less to the son and vice versa, the father is correct to the son when he is more demanding, and the mother of the daughter is more respectful when there is both a father and a mother and a son
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, the daughter is a stable construction, you understand, yes, unfortunately, your family or they don’t know, unfortunately, just in fact, your family is not like that, so you said, i was for my daughter and mother. yes, here it is important that you become both mom and dad for the son too. and when you begin to apply more severity to your son, well , a little more than before, than now. you will see that your design will settle down, because i have. well, this is my professional. i'm kind of just feeling. yes, it’s normal for you to have everything built in your relationship with your daughter, on the contrary, your relationship with your son is skewed. you are giving him too much there and on the difference. you think i don't give my daughter. no. you tell your son, most likely, it's just brilliant for me to respond like that. now you will generally begin to transmit a little less. here's this one, but hmm well
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, my son and a little more include strictness there. but excuse me, after all, if we watch cartoons uncontrollably, yes, you don’t sit uncontrollably, but here and there you will become. well , you have nowhere to go if dad is not involved, uh, raising, son. it's not fair, well, relatively. well, just a little . take on this function of strictness to your son , then you will equalize and you have the difference. it will just be easier for you, you will be about, well, that means i have plus or minus the same damn, again me and mom and dad be nast well, listen , life develops differently and the opportunity will change at some point. and god forbid everything will be fine and harmonious, but so far so. and you know what i tell me, please, you and your daughter somehow discuss the issues of raising your youngest son. well, for example, you can say and listen. look, please, so that he doesn’t watch cartoons for more than 15 minutes or there, go wash your hands with him and clean your teeth. yes, she helps me, but with varying success, of course, but
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sometimes he is in the mood. she turns on something there and says to him, but i noticed that she behaves clearly, how i behave with her. here i am with her as here strictly, and she is the same with him, i say, why are you with him like that rude you imagine? that is, i'm in a relationship. and when i recognize myself to my son. i told you, come on, go there, eat, sit down, and-but this is right for me, well, it triggers. i say, listen, how rudely you can caress with him, and you yourself understand that he has a clearly dictatorial tone, such is the way i talk to her. well, sometimes yes, that is, with your dad, my dad, a-a, another world has departed. here but i have a very strong love with him, a very strong connection. hmm, my young dad, 42 years old, died with me when i was 17 years old, it was very for me, but unexpectedly for me seems like the pain of loss. i still haven't lived. i always have such a thrill
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of excitement when it comes here. uh-huh well, here are your stories about the family, she naturally responds here. he loved me very much, but at the same time he was cruel to me in some way. i'm just analyzing right now. i am raising my daughter the same way my dad loved me raised me, carrot and stick. i was a very obnoxious child. i constantly crossed. that's how my daughter is. only it seems to me that the daughter is just my copy of only my dad. oh, how he loved me very much. and, well, while he couldn't stand it. so he couldn't handle it. yes, with some of my behavior there, he could hit me with a belt on the pope there is a sneaker, that is, he could yell at me, but at the same time i felt love from him, mother, cold. she was so indifferent, but i understand that, well, sort of. i am now doing the same for my daughter. see how
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interesting, yes. you, well, i can have moments when i could slap her on the pope there, too , i could grab it. well, somehow, something like this. well, it's just rough. well, yes, and it turns out that, of course, you are in a relationship with your daughter. deny yourself. yes, you probably have achieved some achievements in life. tell me, what are your achievements in life, yes , an achievement, but in principle, as a woman, yes, that is, i am the mother of two wonderful people, yes, and in some career ones. yes, i am developing successfully there in several directions. you provide security children yourself. yes, this is already enough. and now please answer the question, these achievements of your life would be possible, if you were a good boy in everything always with this world, agreed and never contradicted him. here probably precisely because i have
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these qualities there, despite all some difficulties. yes, there with two children, and there i develop and achieve successors. say thank you to these qualities, and you still deny them and think that they are bad. you are the way you are, you survived tying this world into a knot and making it the way you want you have enough energy for this power, thank you for this unbearableness, and list it to this world and perhaps even the fact that you also does not touch when they criticize you dad so, well , maybe through pain, but i'll stab you, yes, they say it's good to convince, there are no children, but have you been tempered by this? yes, what do you think so far? what's so bad about being? why is it bad to be like this? explain because dad once said so. well, probably, yes,
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i just put it off like that. there is no such thing as bad. no, tell the truth such be such be not bad. say now it's to your daughter. what is her name miroslava miroslava such to be miroslava such to be not bad. nastya, i want to ask you something about this? what do you think, if dad were alive now, uh-huh, he would feel how do you feel, looking at how you live, and how do you develop? what kind of children do you have? what is your career? it seems to me that he was not proud, but in more detail here, so that what he liked would be listed. well, it's him in me , in general, and, probably, brought up these leadership qualities, some abilities there to strive for something to achieve. yes, but to be, but so active or what? yes, that is. gray mouse, yes, but he himself defends such a
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always defended his point of view. and so, probably, in many respects i adopted the model, as it were, the behavior from him. and now the next question. and what are you proud of, but your daughter, what is in her, what do you say, you think transverse well, what a fine fellow you are! yes? lately i've been catching myself thinking that this is how i react to aggress, but, in principle, nothing changes. you have to accept the child. what is what she is. this is her other than you are proud of your daughter. i am proud that she has her own opinion that she is an uncomfortable child. and for me this is pride, although a difficulty to some extent, but on the prospects. i understand that this is a very cool quality, that she is an uncomfortable child. she is very selfish. she is very sociable. i see that it is very large, in fact. that's what she is. and talkative in adulthood
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, this will play into her hands very much. well, then your statement that you don't have a rapport with your daughter, based on what you just said, i think it's my not. wait. once again your phrase. i wrote it down. i have no mutual understanding with my daughter, and she correct or not? you just said what are you proud of? that is, how do you understand it? that is, no, it means that there is still mutual understanding. well, it is there, say it again, mutual understanding. there is once again, you will say mutual understanding. there is less than you fantasized about yourself somewhere, but you fantasized it to yourself that you and your daughter should always have harmony and mutual understanding, and in everything this is again your phrase. i just added always and in everything they meant it. is it possible to always and in everything have understanding. we are you people, you have the feeling that your son is always and in everything in harmony. yes, but not yet small either. he is
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still small, that is, never in two or in 3 years was there a situation that he tired you? annoyed? did you breastfeed him until he was 3 years old? that's how strong love is. that's right, even some kind of merger. it seems to me at some point, but it seems to me that this is exactly what mikhail is talking about. that there may be a little bit of forgetfulness, so i say that it really doesn’t respond to me right here is what i heard then i have a question. forces, if now she starts, following your advice, nastya will slightly adjust, yes, that is, everything that was advised, they advised her daughter to leave everything as it is. yes, well, and so i simplify with my son a little to moderate, but my son will not accept. it 's like mom's cooling down, like the fact that he is doing something wrong, perhaps he is to blame for something. he will not please. well, we don't know how he'll take it. uh, what is he going to think that he is doing something wrong, but of course it is obvious that resistance from the son is possible. yes. and here are some insults you simply don’t love me, because you have become more demanding to present
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acts there, bad, mom, that’s all, yes, that is, it’s also important to be ready for this here. so you say that you advised where to start this time of restriction, so here is the story again. uh, start there all the same gadgets will be healthier, yes with limiting, yes, limiting, but internally just be prepared for the fact that he will offend, that is, learn to speak. no, i just never tell them. no, you understand, but is it love forever? yes, but for you tell me if if you never tell your son, no, this love for him is a manifestation of your selfishness. oh, how to build a relationship with my son so that he does not take offense at me. but no, it’s just that i have it on the machine, it seems to work that i don’t want him to refuse the forecast in some way. so you don't want to give up. why because offended? because it will cry upset.
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yes, it will hurt him to be offended, how will you feel guilty, but there is no pleasant feeling of guilt, so look that you don't limit it like that. uh-huh this is your concern for yourself, so that you are comfortable , so that you do not feel this guilt in front of him , but here you are an adult forecast, what will happen to a child at 20 if you always bring him up without once telling him no, what is wrong with him it will be 20 years, nothing good will sit on your head. no, nothing good will come of it. i understand that, tell me, well, the forecast. well, he will be absolutely not ready, and to go out into the society because not everything will be the way he wants, they will tell him. no understand will it seem that they do not like him, that he was said somewhere? no? yes, that's why once again, when we reasonably
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restrict a child, this is a manifestation of love for him. and you know that now i remembered that my daughter was up to a certain point. but, probably, until the age of seven, i brought up the word. no, she didn't know, i was buying gifts for myself. and somehow, that's all i had the opportunity to do anything. in general, there's no reason to be surprised that she resists restricting her. and she's just nasty not ready for this. yes, education, probably, it turns out, but now you are correcting yourself. just do not go to the other extreme, so that there is always no there. yes, when yes is once no, and then a harmonious personality will grow. here, and with the child, well, with the youngest son, well , now you are starting to introduce resistance , there will also be some kind of crisis in relations. just also stand in the right parental position, that there may be crises in my relationship with children. this is a podcast of the psyche. my name is natalya loseva i am a journalist, and my
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co-host psychologist is a candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, our today's heroine anastasia came to us with such a problem. she can't handle her annoyance towards her eldest daughter. she experiences outbursts of anger or even aggression towards the older child. but with my youngest child, my son. she behaves completely differently mikhail but how to understand? when is it enough to say no? and how to keep this balance, firstly, how to understand that there was absolutely a balance in any way? uh-huh no, but the second, but if it happened, they analyzed week, there were continuous. no, then, highlight a day off when you speak, yes , another question is that when we say no, yes, is it important to talk? no why not? uh huh when you say no have enough patience for all your no. give an explanation not always. do not always try to explain why not after
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our meeting, do not demand from yourself that now i always explain why not. is it possible for mikhail to use, for example, such a time now around the house. and if you need to explain, there is no uncomfortable daughter, as it were project the situation onto the baby. and, for example, tell her. let's listen, how the little one's name is mansur. and at home, how do you call anchik mansurchik. you can say , for example, yaroslav listen , you and i need to somehow explain to the mansurchik that you don’t need to sit in gadgets for more than, uh, 15 minutes, because it doesn’t know, it worsens there. uh, memory impairs vision. well, some such find normal arguments. that's how it works, that when not in a straight line and miroslav. mom explains limits, and takes her ally. he says, let's explain mansur together. it might work really need to try and see how it goes yes, that is here. uh, daughter. maybe at some point i can also say that i am the mother, i don’t
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want to. yes, there can be resistance. here but if she likes it to be somewhere to teach something or yes, she likes it very much. here, don't feed, especially with regard to mansour here. and what fixed him said it was impossible. she directly, and directly copy me. she will make up for your shortcomings. she makes up for it. maybe that's good for certain stage. yes, but just make sure she doesn't. this father, right? uh-huh for your son. i would like to ask mikhail here to give it. what advice, when nastya meets a man and their family remains just as complete, and he becomes a stepfather, he wants to be. eh, father to stepfather to children , what are the risks here? taking into account such a strong character of the girl, the daughter has a very good relationship with her dad. ah, in the same city. yes, they communicate, he spends with her.
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well every day is not seen on the weekend finds to him. i have no idea at all that it is possible that she will accept someone. but this was just my answer to the question natalya yes, no, no, no, it does not strive for what your chosen one will become. uh, there's a good stepfather. eh, will be there to build relationships. just take a man who will not necessarily be there to lisp with your children about them having children, dad, i yes, no one will replace them. well, sort of, yes, that's why my personal life is my relationship, as if it 's necessary, that is, very sensibly. oh well, let's, then some final advice of yours michael parting words to our heroine. yes, it will bake a little more. yeah , it annoyed you when she contradicted you. not because she contradicted you, but because it seemed to you that she did not respect you. yes? this is perfect, that is, it is now important, most
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likely, in other areas of life, when you are shown disrespect. here you shove. well, at work, yes, that's it, and don't get into people's heads. you do not know respect, they do not respect you, how much try to build a relationship. here with their external behavior and not to guess. how important they think you are because respect comes from the word importance. yes , in general. allow other people not to consider you important. you need from these people that they work and earn money for you, you need from your daughter that she be healthy, there, that 's all. let whatever happens in their head. the main thing is that she was healthy there, yeah. so, as you grow up you become smarter, you will build more there, which means , uh, mutually, as if understanding relationships, yes , that is, this is the internal permission to not be respected leads to the fact that you all the same, well, they respect well, they do not respect. this also happens normally. and you become
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more efficient. we are not for everyone, everything is not for us, and we are not for everyone. yes, this is entrepreneurial efficiency, and it grows when we stop demanding respect from people and start building relationships with them. here, well, with such what they are. uh-huh well, what was very useful to you, i have so many insights and awareness. yes, she stopped. replies directly to me. well then, in two phrases, what to catch again i caught that you need to change your attitude towards your son a little, otherwise yes you can take change you can change you need to change it again so the plan. now i will come. changed your relationship with your daughter. all is well, not all. well, as if they were normal. it's just that they are and yes in a relationship, maybe something so you want something different. it's ok. yes, and what, what else answered me? what are you from my childhood? yes? yes, about the relationship with dad.
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what was dad proud of? yes, yes, yes, and what, and the granddaughter was, what, perhaps? i'm probably trying to earn it. here is my mother's attention, my mother's love. yes mom's approval through communication with my daughter, when, for example, there, but they scold them for scattered things. yes, it seems like this. well, remember that since you are raising children alone, then the role. dads also sometimes wear norms on themselves. yes, well, that's just it, but the relationship with his son what can i say no? to bring up just like a man, that only a dad can get your son, can, like a daughter, she has the right to you, by the way, this shows. yes, children can be offended by us, it doesn’t matter, right? i think everything will be fine with you, that will not count on it. well, just when not everything is fine. this is also good. that's life. give when we say that everything will be fine or everything will be fine. this is the absolute or generalization. in fact, it means that you pay less attention to certain
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moods. yeah, for some difficulties, without which there is, of course, no movement forward, but you perceive and see more, but you see with your eye and heart that it turned out that it’s a good feeling in general, happiness, joy, she, uh , so very complex. yes, emotion is a substance. she, perhaps only when there is a contrast to understand that i am happy today. yes , at this moment, at this second, you need to understand that before that it was somehow different. if we are permanently happy all the time. suddenly it wouldn't be this one. the strings of experiencing joy, well, that’s why you shouldn’t set yourself up for the fact that everything will be fine, because this is an infantile unattainable goal in general, everything will be fine. well, friends, it was a podcast of the psyche and its host. i am a journalist natalya loseva and a candidate of psychological sciences
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clinical psychologist mikhail khors i have dreams because i really did a lot of ballets and make me dream. sometimes a performance starts and some dancer can't come out and says to me, igor well, you know, ballet, come on, i wake up in this hysteria. yes, it happens. hello dear friends. we have almost started our broadcast. uh, on channel one podcast, paws and the creative industry are with you elena kip , clip maker and producer, and roman karmanov, ceo of the presidential fund for cultural initiatives and media manager. and in away. we have the brightest sign. uh, the representative of fashion is more than fashion. this is ah. the honored artist of russia sits a lot of designers, and all of them are igor chepurin. good night i am very glad to be your guest i approve of the night. but we have already started talking about dreams. let's continue, because the intrigue. eh,
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the audience is scared. i wonder how the dream ended, what the designer dreams about. yes, there are dreams. i have. uh, a dream that i wake up from, that we are preparing a show, almost all the fashion models are almost ready, but no one is dressed and the music of the show begins, and i see that the fashion model is not yet dressed, i also wake up in horror. so it's all horror. that is, it turns out horror. let's somehow creative industry. actually, let's move on. yes yes. what triggers the designer? well, that is still mentally, right? well, first of all, the number of objects that we understand, yes design, uh, well, how would it be called art uh, that is, it is street design, it's like industrial design, if we are talking about the facade of a factory. yes , i'm glad i did at one point. uh, i began to enjoy not only not only my straight line professions like fashion designers. at one
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point i went into furniture design. then i started doing interior design and i am grateful to myself that i was not afraid, then i started making scenery for ballets. for the costume department. then i made the design of the car to make the design of the iron. i did a lot of things and got there. it's real, my pride. it was last year. i did, uh, the design of the façade, and the factory that makes fiberglass. this is the strongest thread in the world, from which aircraft wings are made. well, and a lot of things, this is a russian company. i am very proud result. it's very beautiful, that's why my name is work. i am turned on by this life in the context of my curiosity. how to make it more beautiful or more modern, and this, of course, goes out of fashion for me, but that's all i do. even ballet i always do very modern modern performances,
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and my costumes are always surprisingly new and for me this is also a new discovery of myself. so, what turns me on is the desire , uh, to give birth to something new and endless wonder. dear friends creative podcast industry, we continue the conversation an interesting conversation with the honored artist of russia designer igor chapurin all issues of the creative industry podcast. you can look at the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, well, that hoodies and this is what oversized clothes kill. eh, our feelings of beauty about it. already talked about today. here we are, probably young designers are also young. i think those who are just starting their journey. here are, uh, a few of those tips or recommendations, where should they look? in which direction? i think the main thing is that the new generation is missing. it's still
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knowledge. it is necessary to engage in self-education , always it is necessary to study the history of fashion, it is necessary to study the history of fashion of different countries. you have to be familiar with fabrics. i have very gloomy examples, when sometimes a young designer comes to me for an internship. he doesn't even know the name of the sleeve. he does not understand. what words i say to him they seem abusive, and therefore i recommend to the new generation. learn learn, because clothes are not two, sleeves and a neck. this is the philosophy a person is the inner world of a person, which he, but embodies in the form of his external appearance. knowledge knowledge knowledge is, of course, a lot of work. where should he go? i don't know how to start a technical school institute right away. i don't know what factory i lived at a time when there were no mobile phones. i need to think about
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how my parents found me, but then it was somehow normal and there was no internet. and i started as a designer, when there were no magazines, there was no internet. that is, as i said, it seems to be, yes, a now everything, perhaps, study, enter the internet. there are a million courses, a million people. eh, give away their knowledge. learn. it's real. eh, well, a person differs from a person in that the creation is trainable and perfection, yo-mine, so you need to improve yourself and move on with your profession, but young designers also have professions. they have parents. that's when i was in my twenties or there 18 years old when choosing a profession, if i told my parents that i would do animation, it would sound like this, in general, rather, let's say it was fantastic then that economists were in vogue, lawyers were in vogue, there
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and so on. now the creative industry is flourishing. here's what you can say to parents, and young people who want to become fashion designers, how much is this a profession that will allow them to stand on their own feet, respectively. well, how is it supposed to start a family and so on. it seems to me that a designer is unwittingly in his profession, if he does not develop, he becomes a very interesting personality personality for, again , his parents for his family for his children, because this is a person who improves the world in any case, a person who improves the world is a beautiful person, so parents. it seems to me that they are afraid. you don't have to give. send directly. and give birth to these amazing people who, in their harmony, decorate the world of loved ones , decorate the world of strangers. it's really a very interesting time for e talent right now. and if you were not a designer and artist, who would you be at the beginning, i dreamed of being
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a figure skater, and i had an idea, when mom was at work filling the room with water. open. uh balcony, shima froze and skate artist beautifully transformed the space. yes , it was a little time of astronautics. well life is life. i took fashion in a hedgehog and put it in its place, and i do not regret it in space either. yes, i dreamed. because you had time to see the greatest film of all time peoples that you do not understand, what were my emotions? yes, i definitely looked, but i was just born at a time when it was actively developing, and figure skating was number one in the world, so i took the best fantasies and wanted to be, apparently, the
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best. ballet in space in costumes by igor chepurin is the next step. it seems to me that kurin’s rocket will be so huge that there will be various mini-productions . by the way, rockets, but you haven’t tried on yet. i have one dream: to make a design on an airplane of some company, that is, all seats are upholstered, then there is to make it so beautifully comfortable that people who get on the etliner for several hours. just relaxed from the pleasure of tranquility. and here is some in the very design beauty. maybe i'll make it, dear friends with you today on the air of the e-program of the creative industry. uh, in the podcast lineup. lad on channel one was a man who transforms the space around him into irrepressible and bitter. the artist of russia is absolutely accurate and the program was hosted for you by elena kiper klepneier
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