write great dramatic poems especially for the gadfly and swords of merhold. yes, yesenin wrote pugachev and barenkov wrote a plot of fights. yes, but as they wrote. all this. ah. they had a room had a bathroom, yes, and in the room. so they did not try to drown, nothing came of it. it was very cold, then they did not move the desk to the bathroom, but locked themselves there, when they had already written it all had to be transferred to the printed text. and yes, they asked the typist's friend to come and retype it all, and then they figured it out. well there is a lady, yes, she is also so cold in her body, you won’t think anything bad. yes, and to warm, she will go to bed for 15-20 minutes and warm this bed with her body, so that they then do not lie down in cold underwear. but this girl was already warmed up and warmed up

, lay warmed their bed and left for several days, and then she disappeared and yesenin was looking for bringov for a long time in moscow. well, what is it? yes, they communicated normally, they worked normally, they paid money regularly, and after a couple of months they find her and ask. why why are we being told? well, i thought you were poets, and you were monks, but they did not offend attention, how much he coincides with his heroes. is this a cynical approach or not. no, he seems like a very kind person. he is very attentive to the characters and for being so attentive and so. well, let's say so in detail and convincingly shows their feelings. he still must be, well, merciful need to see a person in another. and he doesn't blame them at all. that is, it gives freedom to people

to be what they want to be. this is very great. and this is very unusual and e cynics in this sense. well, roman ekaterina is also unique, but they would agree. for example, you can film this story or somehow can rework it, but you know, that's the most for me. in my opinion, the text is important here, and the text is very difficult to put. i don't really understand how to translate it. e hmm yes, this is too literature literature. how to transfer it? eh? well? each other does not understand, because the plot itself. well, if you take, well, here the plot of the love triangle was described so many. and in general, well, the fab itself was dramatic in its own right. yes, there columbine to feather and harlequins loved this business. yes, yes, of course, well, it just seems to me that, firstly

, fools are not cynics. people are smart. in general, all these people, they are all curious, they are all very bright, bright character and very different, and this, probably, attracts everyone , i think, but i don’t know how to translate this into the language of dramaturgy, the way the traman is written, but the most valuable thing for me is the language. well, i agree that the language is amazing, it is unique. it’s impossible to repeat the marings, it’s not like anyone else in poetry or prose , as we understand it, it surprises me that avgungov wrote, well, dozens of very different plays and he was successful somewhere, for example, jester balakirev or e , the birth of a poet, yes, and at one time the plays of the golden hoop, which he wrote together with mikhail kazakov sr., and the father of a famous actor, were staged with great success. yes, and

a big drama was opening in moscow. theater yes, that is, he, as a playwright, well, he took place. yes, he had everything in this regard, and after his death in our time they make a film put plays under the price tag somehow most of all for some reason the famous one left the most probably, the fat trace is so cultural, if you look in time, yes, already, if you lay it out along the timeline, yes, it turns out that the price tags are most often paradoxically never you don’t know, yes, some work will sound in time, so paradoxically, thank you very much for an interesting conversation. this was a podcast, a must read. i am the main thing, a body shirt director writer, directors, writers ekaterina dvegubskaya and oleg dimidov were visiting me, literary critic, poet. we talked about

the novel by anatoly. and cynic hello everyone on the air podcast. everyone wants to fly. i’m leonid yakubovich, by the way, you can always watch podcasts on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru, the weather is good, sea waves 1 2 points against cheerful , see for yourself and find out for yourself cons tell me about it yourself. and uh, how did you get into naval aviation while studying at his school. uh, we had a selection. e in various selected cities and views, who

selected aviation departments, the ministry of internal affairs selected for itself, e, the kgb border service selected for itself. well, accordingly , there was also a selection in naval aviation. uh, after the army's largest one, 60 people were needed. here is my wish. and got into naval aviation, what is the difference between working on earth ? uh, in case of some contingency crew capabilities. uh, just rely on myself, as you know, i can more or less hold a pen. yes, i know it's good. yes, but i understand. how to land a board on the ground , but how to land a board on the deck of an aircraft carrier, especially if it walks for 4-5 points, the main thing is that i still understand it up and down.

and this is how i can’t understand at all, well, let’s start with the fact that in order to carry out such flights , the flight crew is being selected there, let’s say, pioneer e will not be sent there, and such tasks are performed by trained pilots, firstly, the piloting technique must be stable, good must be theoretical knowledge. good moral psychological preparation. well, you explain to me how i repeat to a person who is holding a pen. still, how can you physically plant him, if you don't feel the plane on which you need to put him. uh, the landing gear feature is such that the small ship seems to be chattered more, but when the big ship is chattering, the amplitude is even greater there and onboard. and there are just no pitches, but here, uh, landing features, the pilot brings the helicopter to the deck, but he does not immediately land the macarable, but picks up the moment. uh, as the deck breathes

she, uh, came to the top point. here she froze, and at this moment, when there are no creams and the deck froze, at this moment it is necessary to sit down. why because if the deck goes towards you, it will just throw you off, if the deck goes down, you will chase after it and you can, uh, put the helicopter on the deck very well. at best, there will be an accident at worst . yes, i understand there are limitations. there are restrictions on the helicopter, corresponding to the cream of the patentage, there are corresponding restrictions on the ship, too, on the reception of aircraft. e to your deck on your site. they are the same as group- based. there is one very, as far as i know, a group ship, we have one ship now and it is in the dock. but mostly single ones , they also have their limitations, because the deck is also located there from the water as much as there are projects of ships of 3 m, there are projects of ships of 6 m. there is everything from the water and a platform.

this itself is also there 10 by 12-10 by 15 small on it there is a special anti-skid net, when the helicopter lands, so that there is no yuz and there are landing features. uh, landing with braked wheels, so that in the event of a roll there or the pitch of a small helicopter, you will not. someone told me that somewhere in the west we don't have it. there is a system of cables that drops the cable, and it pulls the side itself, look, the pusher i also read about it, but i have never seen it anywhere in my life and we don’t have it, so we land it purely on the preparation of the pilot on his intuition on well on we have these pilots in our hands, ours differ in that how much preparation has been going on. here, to e a good helicopter pilot. uh, retrain to work at sea. well, helicopter pilots. they usually start working at sea,

starting with spring over water, and then gradually moving to the ship. that is, selection is also underway there, there are pilots and second-class pilots flying, second-class pilots are implied. they can board a ship only during the day, and even in less difficult conditions, and first-class pilots. they can already land at night. you worked on which helicopters? well i worked on a helicopter, 14, uh on all types it's anti-submarine it the rescuers, this basic minesweeper , was also the same on the basis of the mi-14, they had to land on the deck of a ship, though not single, but group- based, they performed combat service to clear the gulf of aden , the red sea, the bobylmandeb strait. well , we were given such a task. uh , very quickly prepared for flights to the ship, such were the anti-aircraft cruisers leningrad and moscow in the black sea fleet. here

we went on the protivorodochny cruiser. leningrad we were prepared to board this ship. then they made mooring places for mi-14 helicopters. and after that , they even did a trial test; it cannot be called a trial trip to the sea with helicopters on the deck of the ship, after which we were given 2 days to prepare. then we again boarded the ship with the airfield and carried out combat missions, then in these areas, as far as i know , helicopters are more often used in naval aviation or not, kamovsky. yes, it was k25, then k27. well, it's a caravan helicopter. uh, task in principle, they perform almost the same as they fourteenth. well, he did not perform the fourteenth. uh, it's a basic helicopter. e from coastal airfields. but we, after all, uh

, did the same searches, boats, too, trolls, the same search and rescue work. well, external suspension. we had, among other things, we were preparing for the evacuation of rescue spacecraft from water and land in search and in the initial and then evacuation of the evacuation of astronauts, even we performed tasks. e at night with water landings with spring over water. i can be proud that i am among the small number of pilots who have flown at night from the water in an mi-14 helicopter during rough seas. well, we carried out training flights , it is allowed to land on water for training purposes. up to two points. the most difficult landing. what was the excitement during the rescue of the crew? there were three pilots, probably somewhere around four. well, you can't explain that experience. yes, there are peculiar features, firstly, it differs in that there is no

horizontal visibility, so we used sea reference bombs that glow at night. we came to the area, and dumped one, then the second with an interval, somewhere there 1.2 seconds and dali when they performed a second run. uh, turning on the headlights passed over those lights. they are burning, we have already specified the wind by the smoke from them. we put up problems for the courses and then carried out the wooding approach, but it is not recommended to approach them closer than 150-200 m, because, uh, you can’t go far either. if there is a little excitement, they dive like floats, and you can see one of them and not see the other. this is the gate. for you , i remembered how we met in 2001 or in 2002, you worked on mi8. yes, i have difference in control technique. no, i want to say that i also had a chance, in addition to flying on the mi-26, the mil cars were made.

so there is no need for such special attention. they are somewhat similar to the arrangement of devices. e. switches and everything mi 8 is also different. i managed to start with a teshka and finish flying a mtsha. the same progress has been going on over the years, the devices have changed, the equipment has changed there, but these are nuances. as they say, the main thing is in piloting technique, well, there is no significant such distinction. well, just a lot. yes i you feel responsible for yourself, er, 44 m, rotating parts and you begin to understand all this. yes, of course, well, and then another number, what are called passengers? yes? yes, well, this is a difference, well, the car is good. i am very glad that in my life i had to fly a sword 14 helicopter. and i mastered all three, like, here i said at the beginning this is

a rescuer and a minesweeper and an anti-submarine helicopter. this is not a modification, if you think, modification people are types, because they have different tasks; different anti-submarine equipment is designed for their tasks. rescuer for their base minesweeper for their own. at the moment , there are no basic tracks in naval aviation. there is, i understand , but still, even with such experience, how long does it take to transfer to another type, well, how much, well, piloting techniques, they actually do not differ much only in tasks. and all of them have three types of one task - water spring water above the water, crew of three people. crew means four people per minesweeper. there additionally the mechanics of real equipment flying on anti-submarine. e navigator, additionally. he has his own cabin.

she is a navigational assistant rescuers paramedic rescuer additionally, and he should have graduated with a medical education, at least, as we had medical technical schools then , yes, because he went down into a scoop there, uh, rescued on water or on land somewhere and if necessary. he was supposed to provide the first medical many people understand this slang scoop. this is a scoop for our viewers. uh, so this is, figuratively speaking, a basket that they lower and e raise the victims of disasters in it, and it is called the asset system, if there is a paramedic in it, because he can take e and drag the rescued, if he is there, god forbid, in an immovable state o scoop - this system itself is called without a filter . we continue the conversation after the pilot, sniper, honored military pilot of the russian federation, you have been in aviation for 43 years. well, almost there, yes, without 11 days you graduated from the syzran higher military aviation school

of pilots, you headed the uh qualifying commission. yes, uh, that means in the ninety-seventh year. well, due to the fact that the collapse of the soviet union, all these events are known we won’t particularly want to stop on them, and we had a division of equipment between the ukrainian armed forces, so to speak, and they took away from us a lack of fuel , a lack of serviceable combat vehicles. e, especially since we went through the first hmm regiment to two squadrons. then they made one of them all a quadrille, and then i was still young, healthy, i wanted to hold back flying, and we let's just say my wife and i decided to try our luck in another department. i gave my data to the main aviation department

of the internal troops, then the internal troops were still given. i was called in for a conversation and approved, and then i was transferred to the aviation of the internal troops without a reduction, by transfer. well, then the posts went and rose to the rank of chairman of the covalation commission of the flight crew of the aviation of the national guard of the tasks of the qualification commission. well, the tasks, in principle, are very simple, we all understand that the combat readiness and ability of military units to fulfill their assignment tasks. it depends on the flight personnel who are there in this part of their qualifications, that is, their level of training and qualifications. so let's say. so. this level of training exists for third-class pilots. no class. there are even pilots of the second class, pilots of the first. well, snipers.

this is, as above, the collection category of the flight crew and, uh, with uh, the third class, the pilot flies uh, in simple weather conditions in it at night, for example, the second class, this is already the preparation of complex and applicable weather during the day at night in simple in the first class is e already in it we will prepare further. preparing at night reaches the same as during the day. well, the sniper is in all conditions. eh, in all limit modes. this is the highest category of achieving a class qualification of the pilot's qualification category - this is a pilot who, in principle, can do everything, but on this type some, if they fly on two types, but when they pass exams, uh, flight tests, he flies on one specific type. this pilot is trained. e for all exercises of the combat training course. if you fly for a moment-24, then the tasks that the mi-24 performs are not impossible for you, neither day nor night mi 8, respectively, mi 8 mi-26. so you

are the master. this applies to combat use and combat use, because e pilots, e, they, as a rule, are checked that the first is that the second class is all the same there, yes. first, the theory is then checked, e, the flight into the zone is checked for entry with a minimum of weather and combat use, if it is mi-24 e mi-35, for example, then this is only at the training ground with the use of weapons, if it is mi 8, then there may be landing transport tasks, or, for example, some kind of evacuation tasks. well, they are connected with the flight along the route, the exact exit on the target, everything else . he is a sniper. uh, when he learns flight training, he also passes the theory. well, snipers, unlike the guys of the first second class. grades below five not allowed, if you passed one theory subject with a grade below 5, then, as they say, go for a walk, they give you half a year, go get ready and what subjects can those people take, say, first

class, qualifying as a pilot sniper air navigation there practical aerodynamics. combat use of means of destruction tactics technical data of means of destruction. uh, aviation technology. there , electronic equipment, etc. , everything else is within the limits of those items that pilots should know. that's up to only a sniper's mistakes, uh, flight training cannot be allowed in this. when he passes, she is different, because he is being checked. uh, if the pilot, uh, first second class during the day at night, respectively, we apply the weather 100 to one flies, then the sniper pilot must fly 50 by 0.5. we speak the same language and understand each other. i understand, i would like to have 50 m, the lower edge of the cloud cover and visibility of 500 m. well, and at zero visibility. uh, takeoff is allowed, uh, without

restrictions with a visibility of 0.3 there is such a thing. well, there are exercises the pilots work out behind the curtain, the instructor sits on the right and he takes off and performs acceleration for our listeners. i want to explain the flight under the curtain from instrument flight. yes, that is, the windows are closed or a special m-m cap is put on with visor. so you see only the instruments and you have to trust absolutely, and mr. d works only on the instruments of external stimuli. no, absolutely no one irritant. uh, through the flight engineer sits with the right instructor. and that's it. this, by the way, is decentresia on my white coat when the instructor came. eh, it's just that the unimaginable happened to me, people, what will the mouse give itself in different ways? here, too, when the school entered. that's about it. yes, we are, after all, in addition to the fact that, as in all schools, when entering the military, they handed over subjects. yes we are they also passed the medical flight commission additionally, and plus they also passed the so

-called psychotr. this also leaves an imprint, and we only had selection in the first group there, now there is some percentage allowed there in the second group, and and so on, no, but a cop. a little more. what does it mean, and it was, uh, your psychological resilience, your ability to work. e in such a few, elevated heightened emotional state. there, for example, sheets were given, uh, on sheets. uh, simple letters are written, a b in d. d there yes the tape recorder turns on and you are given a pencil. and there, a cross out there without cross out in underline r cross out and you are sitting. here, moreover, with a blue red pencil, there and a red line you have to underline in blue later. you take another sheet, and there the readings of the instruments are the simplest ammeter voltmeter, they are upside down and it’s not easy to see that there are six or eight, but there you also need to multiply by 10 or multiply

the readings. this is only for helicopter pilots and not. it used to be in all aviation schools, but i don’t know about you fighter, but we have here's more. in addition , there was a helicopter seat in front of you in front of you , a white screen is drawn with a pattern. here is such a, uh, light bulbs at the edges here are controls, like on a pedal helicopter you still sit down. eh, well, the only one. here you are here or here here , they put on your wrist, uh, a ring and 3 volts. and here you are, checking your cardination. and here you go, so the pattern just came out to you so opa starts to pinch it and to the right. well, now they got used to the controls. it's funny that's what i hear first time. no, no, it was. yes, but this was once upon admission, and then there was no such thing, there is an erroneous opinion, but nevertheless. i want it to be confirmed that you can sit on the simulator and come and

calmly rise in the air. well, i know, like all pilots. they say that if i say the word halva 10 times, it will still not be sweeter in my mouth. real flights will not replace anything, but simulator training. she is also a certain e, gives knowledge and skills. eh, work very well, let's say. uh, well, the order of actions, let's say, is constantly a task fly to some landfill. yes, uh , shoot there and return to the airfield in the simulator. all this allows, uh, to accomplish, because the pilot, uh, arrives, he works with the armature of the cockpit with weapons. they lead for the exchange. they are inside the cockpit, they conduct radio exchanges. the crew is everything. this is worked out plus. if you come across a meticulous instruction on the simulator. why wouldn't he just sit there? keys for entering special situations special cases to work out in flight engine failure fire gearbox failure there. or maybe uh a malfunction in armament, what will you

do in this case, this is a psycho-physical preparation plus. eh, how to say? getting used to the cockpit in general, in principle, but still it will not replace, on true flights. of course not. well, first of all, trainers. they are hmm in terms of their technical equipment. they are different, there are static yes, which are standing on the ground. here, it seems, how the devices move, there are all the arrows, but in fact the vestibular apparatus - it perceives differently there are simulators on a movable platform, there is a pneumatic hydraulic different there is already a certain feeling of flight, that is, the helicopter is twitching. there they enter the data of the winds of some kind there fluttering you, as if in the air. but yes. here, well, you work out the order of execution. let's say you work out the flight itself. because i know that people here like to fly in a simulator to sochi, there is some other drilling platform and go on it. well

, unfortunately, not everyone succeeds, but it’s good that this is a simulator, but still. it seems to me that it looks very good and the graphics are good, but this is 80 percent of the real situation. i think so hmm well, yes, well, now all over the world this trend is simulators. yes, i already said earlier that it is precisely these elements that must be worked out. well, the piloting technique on it, no matter how much you work out, because the piloting technique is on a live helicopter. this is real. when i served here in our famous kachensky helicopter regiment. we had a pripyat sword 14 simulator there, well, as we say, tube ones, you get into it, take off at a height of 100 m, that’s it, it goes out around the runway, you can’t see only the instruments and you you are flying. so we had an engineer on this simulator. he kept yelling at the raiders. why can't you fly?

why don’t you keep the regime, but he is a former fighter pilot during the war, if i’m not mistaken he, in my opinion, has three orders of the red star, he landed like that, and he succeeded, and we worked out special cases, as bykov says there was a yak 40 simulator, also a tube one, four rooms with step starters that clapped terribly. yes, and also take off and after 5-7 seconds milk before landing. yes yes yes. we even tried the same improve it. here we are spending money, then we flew out of foam and cut out such a boat, which means that we all portrayed that it was traffic, painted it and, uh, pinned it. uh, where is the runway butt. there was such a ripple, as if depicting the sea, we depicted it there, stuck it there and now. we did what we did, that we were flying in a circle, we tried not to go above 100 m, so that it was all like visual visibility, and now you go into it , trained, as if on a herbalist, well, at the end they crushed it with a camera, one pilot

diligently went a little lower and crushed his. well, this is our experience. this one ended with pages. and you came to aviation. how old were you? i came after school at 18 was not there. well, at that moment it was the seventy- ninth year. uh, it means that we flew from the first year on a helicopter, mi-2 turned out to be a course of a young fighter, and in parallel we have already begun to study some disciplines. then, when the course of the young fighter ended with the death, on the seventh of november, this one. all of us also participated in samara , our battalion went. and after that everything is straight three pairs before lunch, one pair after lunch, then the preparation itself and the end of april, the start of the match of the year already. we flew two squadrons each in kuznetsk, this was our field airfield in the penza region. syzran school two squadrons in syzran here we flew with us

the second we flew there and were completely based there found i want to hear confirmation, who? there, the mi-2 can fly on any type on a stool. anything, i agree 100%. an excellent car , so many mistakes in piloting technique have forgiven the pilot for this to this day. yes? yes amazing. i look at our guys all the time. athletes fly on mi-seconds, there, uh, foreign cars puff up, but ours are so very deep on them, the second world champion is remarkably wonderful helicopters. i don't know, of course. uh, when they stopped producing it, when the resource began to come out of cadets, they started on the mi 8, uh, it is trained immediately on the mi-24, well, the piloting technique is sharp, no matter how hard it is. yes, they have seven of them to sit down at once. it's hard, yes, your job, it's more or less a job. obviously, you can get used to it. i

think it's harder not to leave home it’s more difficult to stay at home and wait, and it’s generally pointless to leave. if no one is waiting for you, wife, well, wife syzranskaya no, i’m also 41 years old, together with my cadet years, together in all my garrison, where we served, waiting constantly an amazing person, when we lived in a swing, helicopters were flying, it could easily be distinguished by flying. it's not 14k, 27 or 6 had to hit difficult conditions. well, everything in our life, probably, the conditions are not very simple combat, well, in different ways, there were different business trips, but easy there are no flights. when did you study? uh, you had to pass, of course. uh,

work for failures. yes, yes, the authorization of the executed again. let's do it, let's explain autoratation - this is an engine failure in the air for two here, well, yes, for two engines in the air. how do you understand the plane can still plan? but what about the helicopter? hmm, i'll say, so it's probably more wonderful than the plane plans, because it's a little different regimen in terms of aerodynamics. this means that when the engines fail, the helicopter starts to descend. under the influence of the u flow on the main rotor from below, it will maintain its revolutions in the same way in accordance with the instructions. regardless of which helicopter you maintain them within, the helicopter also flies at a speed of 150-160, but we have recommended speeds for

self-rotation there are 120-130 km, the most convenient is when you have the lowest vertical speed in this mode, when you have the opportunity to look left and right. uh, and where are the venues where you can perform, and the venues are usually when preparing for flight. well, you still look at the flight route route, where , just in case, you can land. well, then everything, as in accordance with the instructions. no, i understand, i meant autorotation when it goes vertically down 8-10 m, probably up to speed, yes, yes, well, it’s different on different helicopters, but you can achieve it even more there, because the site. it is closer around the forest you have nowhere else, therefore , you can and the speed you can put more turn the helicopter. he is piloted it’s great to manage to pick it up on autorots from above. well, yes, there are two, such as a landing, one of them is there with an explosion.

well, as a rule, it is used, that is, you approach the ground, choose a step there somewhere of 6-8 °, yes, it already dampens the vertical speed, you put the helicopter a little into the landing position, because when you start to dampen the speed, you lower the tail boom with the handle you take over the controls so that the tail does not touch the ground. at this moment , you level it a little and from a height of 5-7 m. you widen, yes a second step and it finally extinguishes the vertical speed e, the helicopter lands. you have to wait a little, you don’t need to take a step right away, because from the screw the cone forms such a tulip, as we call it, it more or less comes in a horizontal position. after that. and it’s best to hold your step this way, yes , then slow down a little, if you performed a small mileage with mileage, but there were different platforms that you can afford to make a mileage, maybe you won’t

say. that's just you have at your disposal 2-3 m all students were with you. well, a lot of guys are good. very good guys, there were cases when we had to weed out. unfortunately, yes, there are two or three people in my practice. well, no offense for a reason, well, just the unsuitability of medicine, psychophysics, piloting technique, uh, piloting technique was. well , the relationship in the crew was also a psychophysicist, by the way. eh, how commanding? authoritarian or has the right to strain his voice, let's say in my life there are a lot of examples when the crews were friends, and then it even turned out that in in the process of service, someone had to go on promotion. that is, they are in other crews in other squadrons. and this friendship is like a lifetime.