i will always be waiting for you. this is a podcast triggers and its leading psychologist tatyana krasnovskaya and psychotherapist sergey are with you , and we are talking with anya about how to overcome depression at 21. what are you working as a secretary let's say so well, you work as a secretary. it is unlikely that this is your dream job, judging by the way you said, and who would you like to work in the normal state of the third year, journalism and third- year psychiatrist. well, if he is at this age, because you process so much literature information depressive, which cannot but

plunge you into a state. in general, if you read psychological literature, it is easy to come to the conclusion that life is a continuous pain. just like classical literature. so good. you would like to work as a psychologist. you are currently working with the secretary. would like to work as a psychologist, apparently, while you cannot work as a psychologist. naturally. uh-huh, you are in absentia-scientific in absentia. that is. in general, do you have time for work? why don't you work? well another realm, i don't know now there are a lot of options. uh, there's a very long story. why am i working at this job at all and there is again a plot on my mother, i understood that. and if you say that you don’t care about some kind of story, you even go to work, because your mother said. obviously a job, you can definitely change, from the way you say that you say your salary is not enough to hold on to this place? wow salary. it seems there is not the one for

which you hold here. well, it is obvious that, well , suppose x rubles are being developed. yes, here exactly the same x rubles earned elsewhere will bring you more pleasure than this first one here. what needs to be dealt with. i thought about it a lot last year as well. and i almost quit, but in general, something went wrong. well, i was very scared. this is fine? well, some kind of unknown here, it is very scary. and as it were, well, it is logical, that you need to take this step, because in itself nothing will change, but somehow there are a lot of fears. uh-huh, i understand correctly that working in this company or work somewhere there, as if some kind of condition of your mother, that in this case she pays for your education. no, i 'll pay for everything. why are you working there? what for? well , because. again, she put in a

lot of effort, let's say, to put me in this job. and if i plan on quitting with her, uh, then uh. i need to quickly pack my things and move out. and how would you have to, apparently, do it, because it is obvious that after this program your employer will look at him, and mom too. it is unlikely that you will stay there to work. here, and at the same time with everything in this uh company, where you work is also impossible to make a career, well, there is no psychologist. no psychologist. you can stand there as a director, for example, i am gradually studying psychology, as if at some point the fuse with which i came there, because well, before that i worked there in catering in sales, let's call it natural, there, well, there was another fuse. and here i sort of sat down like that, and in a few months i, well, how would i sit here. turned out to be very comfortable.

condition. well, it didn't even exist back then. it's quietly, quietly, how tina clouds the house. everything is very clear, and it became depressing at work. everything is very understandable, depressing. well, look, you are slowly slowly, as if tightening this tina over yourself. and your young man, how is your relationship with him? in general , everything is fine. well the support is just uh too because he's learning. yes, there is no super profitable work there. there is no way, but to take everything and drop it abruptly. this is probably the only area which still pleases, then you definitely don’t need to claim depressants. because it will also go out, so here i am, well, i don’t want your depression to somehow impose, and the imprint on your relationship with your young man very

often appears fear that if it’s bad with me, there will always be a person with whom it’s good or easy , and then what do you do when such a thought of nothing appears. usually i provoke. well, that is, slowly destroy the relationship. yes? yes, great. you are well done. you excel on all fronts. yes look for in order to grab the next branch. you need to let go of this in order to open another door, you need to close this one, as you like any metaphor. yes, but you'll have to, like, leave the whole place that you 're in. it's like it squeezes you out. this is the same thing, when it is time for a child to be born, he is faced with the fact that the entire body of the mother, which up to this moment was his shell, is a carrier-feeder. there, i don't know love. yes, suddenly, at one

fine moment, he begins to reject him, and this is a severe injury. for the one who should to be born and the child at this moment goes through the most difficult paths. we will never have to go through the most difficult trials of anything more difficult in life. if you do not believe in the next life after death and the child passes it, that is, nature has laid down that he is able to survive this emotionally and mentally. yes, a child is born in shock, because only shock allows them to do it, you will do exactly the same thing. if you are fired now from all these circumstances , you will be fired from your job. after our transfer , mom will kick you out and you will find yourself with a knapsack, and on street near the kazansky railway station, where you will need to spend one or two nights, at least in order to gather your thoughts in this, yes, then you are then at the pinnacle of success. look, tell me, lord, how did i live it, like any person who achieves success, but there would just be a child who does not know that he has a couple to be born. but here

now you understand, after all, now you seem to be pooping, yes, and if you already know how, uh, that a caterpillar, it begins to pupate. for a caterpillar, pupation is death, no one caterpillar is not aware that it will be born as a butterfly, it is a full-fledged living organism that consciously goes to this death for the subsequent metamorphosis metamorphosis is the transformation of one into another. if at all, in principle, you see some anya who is able to be happy. why did i say what would happen if you were happy tomorrow? but what if and in general there is at least a fantasy of some anya who is capable of this happiness women's happiness, professional happiness, personal happiness. yes, then in order for it to happen there, there must be pupate. this is a caterpillar. you understand this moment. it is coming, but rebirth will not happen, this morphosis will not happen if you do not take this step. this step is growing up and 21 years old. this is exactly the same

age feeling, just like at some point, if earlier, but i understood that i was real. well, i seem to be able to do something, that is , the feeling that i can’t do anything at all, that i can’t imagine anything at all. and well, in general, i'm sitting, in general, no one knows how to do anything. and where will i go. and what am i going to do. an you live with the feeling that no one needs you and no one will pull you out of this depression, no one will come after you and save you. you can stay there you know how it ends. how will you feel slowly slowly sergey has now painted a picture of how everything will gradually die off. you can stay there, but look ah. is it even possible to have a conversation for three with dad, and

no mom, it’s just impossible that they don’t communicate. yeah, maybe your conversation with your mom is yours with your dad separately. and where would you be able to convey to them and describe to them your condition is also impossible. they won't listen, and they won't agree to support you, for example, for the year that you live. why situations show that well , you don’t have to count on them, there are some people in your life, maybe neighbors, maybe some of your acquaintances who need help more than you alone. old. perhaps the old sense of the elderly or the old sense, you know for a long time she needs our mind, the psychological is excellent. well, where you live some live, but women,

grandparents, grandparents, who look like at least lonely. i don't even know, i don't pay attention. you try to pay attention. that's when you go to work from work. yes, look, you may see a few people around you who need help more than you. depression is also dangerous because at this moment your ego very strongly captures and holds attention to itself and one of the elements through which we can get out of this depression. and in order to understand, hippocrates treated depression with warm enemas, that is, it was clear how to this was treated before yes, where did your parents have such a knee-deep attitude that it’s all nonsense and fiction, so one of the elements that will be very useful to you now is to turn your attention and see people who need help more. what do you need. because if we look now, well, you see what

the situation is around how many people need help today, because they were left homeless. without close relatives there. well, and so on. yes, if at this moment you see that they need help, and you are actually a carton of milk. you can change a lot. just in the evening, bringing a carton of milk from an old woman, then a kilogram of potatoes of bread. it doesn’t matter if yes, then through this, well, you will somehow find for yourself, and the very thread through which you will begin to crawl out, because today it seems to us, when we get into this depression, that i have problems, but from the point of view a huge number of people. you piss off fats. how do you understand? do you have a job that is someone's dream? do you have blood that for someone's dream home, right? you have a mother, and for those who suddenly lost her, this problem is more than something that you have a young man. you learn to understand, but i absolutely. wonderful in solidarity with you that when we enter this

depressive state, yes, then we look at everything that we look at, we will see it in a depressive light and getting through it always helps a lot through helping other people. try to see it won't. well, it costs you a lot, but you will gain meaning, because again, from the point of view of the humanistic psychology you will be taking. you will see that a semantic crises. yes, that is, which are with loss of meaning. they just introduce us to a state of depression, and that's where the personality begins. just like falling asleep. you need to wake up wake up. this requires new meaning. find people who need help more than you might think, as if this is some kind of depreciation, or something, the story is by no means we understand that the truth is hard really hard to live in this feeling of loneliness in this feeling of not being needed, but this is the idea of ​​giving away, why did you come. this is just about

the exit towards which it is worth digging , speak louder, i can’t hear. you are some kind of circus. this is not an interrogation. what do you think, why do you need a consultant, because there are things that you don’t understand silver wolf tomorrow after the time program, who is next to you all your life, but trusted a person who you don’t know why at all, because you and i are different its hosts tatyana krasnovskaya psychologist. you know, once i gave to his daughter. in my opinion. the most valuable piece of advice, uh, she ever took. i told her that if you dream about something, but

for some reason it seems to you that you cannot realize this dream, well, due to lack of resources. yes, then you are always a tank where others realize this dream. that is, you have a dream, whatever it is, can become a psychologist. maybe some more? yes, try to get as close as possible to the place where other people realize. uh-huh and be useful to these people. you very much learn. at least it helped her. i'm sure it will help you, and i have no time. it is helping work in the environment to be near to bring. i don’t know, tea, as if i’m saying, but to be where people realize this dream in general or the life of your dreams. and it's cool, as a demanded good specialist with a lot of knowledge. either a house or an apartment

dog husband, as it were freedom freedom in some actions freedom in self-expression you work pleasantly in your specialty. you are a psychologist who sometimes conducts trainings. i have some super cool cozy office, and i lead, mostly face-to-face. when do you have it on tv? what are you talking about about how to get out of depression? great why not?

a great idea on how to get out of depression, start today, start keeping a diary and write down life hacks, like how it works for you, where there are failures, or how it will be wrong, yes, if you feel, relatively speaking, such a cool psychologist who helps people get out of depression, how can you help them. if you yourself have not entered into this depression. here you consciously entered me further your task conscious to get out of it. it's like going into a dark room. if we had more time, if we had more such a psychoanalytic session, then i would, of course, suggest that you go through your mother's salon, yes, which you reject. well , you will deal with this in psychoanalytic sessions when you go to a psychoanalyst. this is also part of the job. but if we are talking, for example, about getting out of depression, then this is what i told you, it will be right steps for you right now, then you can say that you yourself came up with it, but you don’t refer to me and get people out of depression, but you'll see, but it's been working for years. it works for millennia, when there was no such thing as depression book. are you on the first

page of the title page? i think that you write what i understood, in fact. why did i have this depression? i hope yes those right today can start this book. you can write that first page today by asking yourself this question. why why? i needed this depression if you see how many people you end up with then you will help that people will be there, probably retake your book in order to cope with this depression, as specifically the kind that allows you to write books. look, first of all, i definitely want to recommend one book to you. although you should have already encountered it. this is viktor frankl. yes, a concentration camp psychologist. tell life. yes, yes, i heard, but right now you are starting to read, and the second book, which will be of interest to you as a specialist. this work

is called work. and this is just a woman who discovered herself. not being a psychologist , i found myself on the floor. clinics with depressive disorders, when they had already turned away from me, everyone else could no longer live with her, and this book is about how she got out of this depression. yes ok thanks. tell us what you are leaving with motivation with some kind of fuse to start changing something. why, to be happy. let's then, after all, let's sum it up again, so to speak, the result is nothing to change. a look around and see who you are surrounding you, maybe on help more than you the first thing to do is take your focus away from yourself. start serving people with small deeds, small deeds. and you will be stunned by how much. you can do it even if

you are a believer, for example, you can just go to church every saturday to pray for other people, and this will also be very much for you, it will bring meaning now. 21 years is such a sense there is no, and it does not exist, if you do not create it well write it down, it's true to do. this is very helpful. it seems to me it is very similar, something from this series. thank you thank you. well, it was a trigger podcast, and you and i were its leading psychologist and psychotherapist, tatyana krasnovskaya and a psychologist and psychotherapist. sergey on himself. our guest was anya , a young beautiful girl with whom we talked about depression. podcast

of the creative industry with you elena hyper and roman pockets media manager you know everything about us here, you know everything here, which means i played the guitar and played in a band 20 years ago and 3 days ago, for example, my daughter is playing for me now, too, in general, a fucking musician there. oh, by the way, by the way, it flies like one day really, but in fact, the most important thing is that when you leave the guitar on stage. you are 46 years old. so these are 17 again, and lena is a producer. and we have, in general,

a normal company gathered. i even now had an idea, maybe you can become a podcast host somehow, paws, because you are there and much more now. well, this is a great idea, we put the baby there were more than 1.000. speak up. i think the only thing that's going to be nerve is we're going to decide which one of us is the baby. still, okay, who is the truth, glagoletian, and then we will analyze. you now have such will i already yes? video manager, so that we finally have a program in which the guys themselves really ask questions to the same peers as themselves, because? well, we actually say a lot, in what we no longer understand so rightly and say and our guests now, so let 's try to figure it out. yes, yes, finally hmm how did it happen to you? here in your beautiful practical infancy, take and become famous throughout the country. and sometimes even beyond. yes

, katyusha, i was 6 years old. i shot for magazine catalogs, and then 8 years. i went to film school and studied, and individually with a film coach. well, i wanted to do more development, and then just a couple of months later it happened. my first casting, then everything went, went. ivan walked. through uh, through unique hmm through the thorny man musical. i mean, uh, i have an incredible conversation partner for real, because we were sitting in the dressing room. now, uh, incredibly modest, first of all, girls, which is rarely proportional to famous actresses and actors. here, uh, incredibly charming, really, here i just want.

play. of course, then i understood, in general, why didn’t i pick it up before, dad said he spoke, but in the end my uncle didn’t, yes, and dad was delighted, but at first he was

still in vocals. yes, at first i was three years old. it’s just that competitions have already begun there for only six or seven years. here, well, there from five, maybe some kind of children's competitions in general. by the way, how do you like vanya on creativity? i have a favorite vanya's song this is venus jupiter it's very cool song, like many others, but it's a super hit, of course, yes. it's just that song that made you famous. yes, that is in theory. uh, before that , you invested a lot in your studies, right? or how is it, how is it? that is, you feel that you are investing in your studies. it's generally sensitive subject. i'm not me, if here, depending on what kind of study you are talking about, in general, okay, well , it's like entertainment self-development. for me it was a hobby. i never in music schools. nowhere, in general, i was engaged only in vocals, guitars, pianos. i've always found a solution for myself somehow.

i mastered how to learn to play the guitar in general in a month and a half. that is, they told me that it was like super fast in general, i already took this bar in a month and a half from someone there. well, like six months later, it doesn’t work out there. here is the first the song i remembered, in my opinion, ddt was everything. something like this i, in my opinion, sang the very first song. but there , nevertheless, self-development prevailed for me. i always, uh, wanted to develop myself, that is, i could never play classics there or whatever you are, although i respect it very much, and the classics are ahead, everything, really, in general, but, that is, well, it ’s just that you yourself have never been interested so that it somehow u learn to play. i always wanted more modern, but no one taught modern. here i am myself i started like this, of course, katya, what technique do you prefer? what school? what? uh, huh? in which direction to develop? well, of course, the actress wants to go there, maybe in the theater. well, in general, i want to, probably, i prefer cinema here film set, camera camera - this is my best friend. here, i don't know, that's how it

feels. here, as if here's looking at the camera camera best friend. it's just that simple, well, the camera loves and the camera loves the camera. this is the same thing, in general, the most important thing, yes, that's the first casting. there's a lot there people don't bother you. everyone looks demand. say something, yes fairy tales yes i will tell, say i will tell the hero is born inside you. that's how you feel when you start to, uh, immerse yourself in the character that you need to play, in general, i immerse myself in the character. i'll read the script first. and i need to understand my hero. but then just try to get used to the role. i get it almost immediately. i mean, it's different. it's uh, well, a person can be able to play and bake, but gets into the frame and everything is lost, for example, and vice versa, accordingly, yes, you can do it, well, conditionally

ivanov is in the camera on the camera and everything is fine and the camera also loves and in general, everything, of course, and this is a profession in general, well, as it were, as it is possible in the world, absolutely, as it were, how can you go into the frame, not be prepared for this all my life. a million people come in. i'm talking about what is personally about us. we have worked for this. everything, we put our childhood and all that. i am sure that many will say that , like, that katya is there, like, and now there is, like , virginity going on there, but i will say that when she she works so much, there is no childhood there, in general, that is, like she has you with her, as if i'm sure that there are friends there, how much she works. i'm sure it's a lot of work. yes? what do you have here? they say adults don't work that hard there. how many children who live there are no friends, some friends. it naturally started some echoes of the old show business. here in our old one. the meeting had a few friends. i have friends, of course i have a lot of friends who

support me, my family supports me, so family are your friends. yes, of course, dad, mom, brother. yes, i still have friends, of course, you know, well, from the old went into business and the old film industry, sometimes they say it's better and don't tell anyone. well, what are you going to do? and only then, when gop e, then let everyone see, so that the enemies do not envy, but relatives, so that they do not worry much. you do something, something is wrong. here's how close this one is to you. here, what do you think about it? no, i'm the opposite. i'm still that adviser. i always consult with my mother from me, that is, like, from me there is some history. and if i'm in doubt about something, i'll always come up, i'll ask, like, bye. what do you think, what is it for me to do this at all? should i be doing this? i have a great team with whom i have advice about everything. that is, who, in principle, are aware of everything that we will do, because somehow we have to make suggestions. we are creative together. that is, i work in a team. i don’t have any specific personal

projects there, like, i don’t hide anything, as it were, guys, and on the contrary, everything is together do. that's by itself. there, uh, other people. and no matter how i have to say, no one asks, like they ask there. what are the plans for the future type of live, i say well, the concert and that's it. i’m not afraid to say this about the concert, that is, it turns out, the family, your team, the main and the first, yes, that is, i recently watched a film about a documentary film about billy eilish, she has a mom dad, brother, this is her. and with you initially go. that is, like, mom, let's say i invested everything at all. basically, i'm here thanks to you. appeared. that is. if she took me to the theater then, i wouldn’t have received money for this theater and all that, as it turned out. and by the way, i also studied there for nine years, but listen, how do you feel about the fact that a huge number of parents, but the last ones are probably 10-15. they constantly treat children, place them in various toys, many of them go five to six and they don’t have any personal life, in general, like this, and the child must, as it were

, choose for himself what he wants to do. that is, e.g. i want to sing. here comes the drink to sing. i want to draw let him go to draw. that is, it is not necessary. that's somehow all the time the child back and forth. here here you can kind of ask him what you want, he will answer everything and everything. maybe this is how this impulse will turn out. i am very artistic for the first time. well, i've been in commercials. here's how it happened. i 've been in commercials. and my mother says to me and why don't you act in films? well, that's what we really dodged. why don't we go to the movies? and so we went to agency and castings, then, uh, cinema and that's all, yes, everything is the same, this is all the movement with mugs with me. a little bit wrong, well, just a little bit at all. i agree, uh, with the words about the fact that parents should, how to listen to the child, but it

was just a little me. so i was just too young to be aware of my wants and needs. yes, and my parents, as it were, they, on the contrary, sent me there there, yes, they helped me. if i decide on my own, i came there like that, but i want to play football and come to football. my dad is everything i bought all the uniforms and equipment. actually i came hit. i really came to football , hit my knee and didn’t go there again, and he bought beads for me in uniform, the coolest ones. i say dad. i want boots only in the bath. you wanted to take two classes. so no. dad, i won't go without boots. okay take it. that's how i kept going. one lesson and everything went to hockey went to swimming. i was seriously engaged in swimming for a long time, which i also did for 2 years, that there was still basketball there. and so, and the theater was always and when the theater did not get tired. here i am and stayed there. well, although everything about the real went swimming there. this is the eternal thing that you from the theater to swimming to swimming to teach lessons to sleep and to school, but here there is a personal life wrong, where do you lose? here are those 15 minutes

between the swim and the whole line. what are you, an eternity? well, it’s good for me that one producer, and the old one, so to speak, and the old guard of producers told me about children that at some point they, in general, demolish the tower like this, in general, on the basis of greatness proper, and they turn into stars in the worst sense of this word, that is, these whims, well, what are the victims, what are they suffering. well, we don't have a type. well, who knows, i think that we are not victims, maybe it’s because you have been walking since these three years and slowly, with small small boards, small boards, what you need to tell the child so that at some point he will not be himself i didn't lose i didn't say, i'm a star mom, leave us like a circle of moms you ask for advice take mom to the camera. it's just that you said wan and awareness of years, i am conscious. here, it wasn't like that.

that oh, i catch myself on the fact that i have now suffered. and of course it was. well, what is it all about, but i think that it’s not something that everyone goes through, everyone has to go through it, because it’s such a topic that you are experiencing next to you there are people who move you away from it. that is, my mother immediately gave foam, damn it, it was probably 15 years old, even venus peter didn’t work out yet. it's still, well, there was no one at all, and now i was. for those who you are , these are the main stages, stop me personality. here it's 14 years old. it’s just that i was such a child, in general, i recorded, there’s like a camera and i got a cover of a lot of views on the well-known social network. and here i was thinking that that’s it, like, so i grabbed the bird by the tail in general, and then my mother immediately gave me a pendal to the side. i remember this period very well. it doesn't manifest itself in the fact that you go there, like you want to be so super cool. you're normal, it's just for me that everything always manifests itself to the family.

you start with loved ones. you start to neglect your relationship with them. exactly this sad that there is, because uh there are people around, but there is like your family. and so, when this family begins to communicate, they put themselves in some moments above them, then this is very bad. here and here. when i turn around , i understand that, well, like, i know all aspects of this disease, no matter how much you want to return to it katyusha i had a feeling. well, i don't know, i'm really not up to fame now because i'm studying. i love studying there. here's something new for you to learn there to try some new cuisine to ride. uh, meet new people in different cities of the country. this is the expansion of horizons. uh-huh, but your parents expected that you would appear with them, in general, the development of events is different, that is, here she herself knows everything that she wants. yes, and i think the parents are very

proud simply. well, this is generally true, well, an independent child at that age. this is a very cool conductor. here she is with me all the time. she is with me on some film expeditions on auditions, even the auditions herself, when she comes, we sit, my mother and i we analyze the heroine there. so to speak, that's live from the role. i myself, of course. but the analysis of personality yes, character and that's it. such. everything, here the character of the personality must be understood here. your heroine surrounded me, of course, recently on all the billboard posters, yes, which are just like i was at that age, then you play someone. well, in fact, here, and there was absolutely nothing to play , absolutely i am that mischievous girl, such a cheerful girl. i am she, that is, i have absolutely nothing to play. that is, i am me, but there are no gadgets at all, for example, here in this world in which you play. it was even good. this is very important, but even good.

it's even good. that is, like these games, these are all all sorts, but the indians. here we played. there were all sorts of indians, we went there and talked, that is, this is the most important communication. it’s not like these people sit on the phone like this, and most importantly, communicate, so it can be taken away from all gadgets. if you take away gadgets, like well, i think that, probably , i think you should not take away the phone from children, you need to give free rein. my phone was taken from me. i have this, in short, punished. i was taken away by sensors and given a push-button. this was the top punishment for me, because it was a very hard time for me. in short, i myself, well, probably, at the age of 16 i bought myself a push-button phone and removed the touch one, because, well, someone writes there. she

push-button only call you open. i went straight with him for weeks. i cleared myself mentally so much, it just became easier for me, because it was so convenient for you to just call. you can incoming and outgoing. well, i mean, it's really great. cool. here but when i was small, for me, it was a computer punishment, i was not allowed to play, but i was not applied there, it was not special. it's just that if i played on the computer, then i don't do my homework. it was very bad, of course, now there will be recognition. i have never played any computer game in my life. true, i know the existence, but i am so afraid of them that they will eat away from me the time that i should have spent on completely different things in general, and i am afraid to leave. here in this alien reality, uh, well, because abay's life is where adults' fears are more serious than those of children. god, you are afraid of my holiday to go into a parallel reality in general, but listen, what do you think about us all going to parallel reality in the future, in fact, it will not be very good, because you need to live in the present meets the present . that's the fact that he didn't think there with him, and everything in the past was about what will be in the future no, you just need to live in the present.

lena and i, mm , discussed this topic very seriously, in general, there is a fairly well-known fast who believes that 40% of humanity are ready to leave and, in general, like to live further millions, and man, wow. well, they kind of interact there. they really go there to play on. something is feeding them. in general, i didn’t come up with some kind of very funny , uh, surreal, it just looked like a story there. but this, of course, is, uh, a scary thing. i don't think anything is bad, because in our country, uh, it's like everything evolves. and that we are developing technology, all that. this is very cool. but of course, it's too much with what's out there, like people stop talking. they are calling. how to speak. it's generally sad. all of us we continue the conversation with you creative industry podcast. our guest today is vanya dmitrienko, actress katya temnova.

we continue the romance of the pocket with elena kiper, we will return to creativity. say, uh , venus jupiter, let's say, was written at some point. uh, yes, but you weren't afraid that you, in general, would become slaves to your hit film and you would be perceived that way all your life as, but there are such artists. yes, when they ask you to sing the same song, for example, you told me 36.6. this is victory, i am loyal to this. so, well, okay, they are not afraid of anything, yes, but here, for example, i can say by myself that periodically, and i have a problem with the fact that if someone knows that i worked on a group of tattoos then it's behind me. that's how it stretches, like a label, as if nothing else existed during this time. it’s like i didn’t do anything else, so for my part i advise you

to constantly take new and new heights, it goes without saying, but, let’s say you say, am i afraid of, like, uh, becoming a hostage of my hit. a why should i be afraid of this at all? if a hit, this is an incredible success, the tatu group is an incredible success. there were no such russian groups yet, that is, they went on tour on a world tour. this is generally, as it is, like 70, of course, gold. yes, it's not a threat. it's incredible. cool. this is a huge success and someone dreams about this and can’t even afford it at all, that is , a hit and venus in st. petersburg - this is definitely a hit, then there were. it goes without saying that the famous songs were lego there were 36.6 there were a lot of things and we are now releasing albums, but venus is hit, which got to 198th place in the world charts, it flew into the auditions only for russian listeners from other countries. that is , i really want to interrupt it by itself, but it’s hard and the fact that he, in principle, is an incredible pride for me and, as it were, always strives to eat something, because he is. this is my pride. they

are afraid of what i will leave with him. this, god forbid, i'm filming, i'll stay here in our past. where are we from? yes, but it was very important to make sure that there are numbers on the chart. how is it tested? for example, when you see how many views you pay attention to it. how many views manyun had on platforms or how many listening sessions there were on streaming platforms, of course, this is interesting, of course. it's interesting. how can you look at it, but what is it for, just to understand what standards you set for all that. it's more for yourself. and if suddenly one day there will be a little lower than you would like the expected result was good. that is, it is, in principle, happening, even this is actually correct , you need to move on and do it right. yes this is such a trigger to once again, and on the street there is still strength to return yeah, now

they are crying again on the other side, and it’s important for you in general that people of the older generation know you, for example, or you don’t think about it at all. well, let's know you. your mom is already people so that the generation goes on for me. in fact. i don't even know how to say this. well, probably not much. well, as i know, everything is fine. how do you imagine the audience? here, well, this is the word audience this is what they look like. this is what for me here's the audience it's over there. i don’t know, there are some people here who are watching me, who are liking something there. i don't know, well, it's just that those who like me are the audience for me. what do you think, this is the audience? she strongly believes in your heroine, of course, but this does not work. and you, uh, do you choose the script, so, when they offer you, all of a sudden there is some kind of uh, very negative character. uh, let's say there's an antagonist who

starts doing some completely unpleasant things. and these unpleasant these actions, for example, other children will look and repeat. well, i would play a real hooligan. in fact, i always dreamed of playing some kind of anti-hero. yes, yes, because it causes the most nerves. u yes, well, this is for me it's like this mm second wind adrenaline adore. yes, i love it. well, in life, in fact, as if there is not much time, you just need a brother. well, i love my brother, so creative hooligans are visiting us. every creative person has a so-called glass ceiling, which must be broken through in the end and before you have to reach it first, then despair, pain , which means, uh, many people have a serious creative crisis, after that someone breaks through someone no, this is his creative ceiling further. this is the development that we 're talking about now, uh, you already had, first of all, a creative block, when you sit down and you can't

write a song. nothing happens , complete despair, or you can’t play and the camera stops people and so on. no, no, no, no again no, and never will never never there is such a never say never. i believe in this in this way it will never sound very appropriate, but i ’m very interested in how many of these ceilings there are, because, and every time you step over yourself in fact, you nail it? that is, when it started, when i had my first cover there, it got a lot of views there. i, too , broke through some kind of ceiling when the song became somehow famous. i also jumped the ceiling. and how many of these ceilings do you think they just they just happen all the time. i don't even know how high the ceilings are. i think it's simple uh, steps in the flat room. that's up, it doesn't exist now. i always say that in our country the aspirations are absolutely limitless about the apathy of the creative crisis. i

think so far that i have an opinion on this something one thing. i believe that all apathy and creative crises are in the personal head of a person. my album is called parana. and it is precisely about the fact that we develop a lot of problems in our head, the problems outwardly become internal. and you, as it were , twist them in your head, and this becomes, as if you scale something, and they become huge problems for the whole thing, really the salt of many people is a fly in the ointment in a barrel of honey. danik, so to speak, in fact, why lena reacts so much. the fact is that now , in fact, we are also watched by a certain number of people who have no idea what your generation looks like. they look and are amazed. they think we imagined it completely, otherwise. well, as a rule, it's for the worse, otherwise and then all of a sudden it's the most, the most beautiful. that is, i have. here was a question he did not have time to answer

further about the audience for me. yes, it’s very important, but getting 35 from an adult audience and these are different views on this, but i have such a view precisely because i still have a concert activity and when teenagers come to my concerts, their parents let them go . it was important for me to make it clear to my parents that i will not teach anything bad to children, and i will not say anything bad, and i have my own stable worldview, about which i ready to share and some right things , some right messengers. i’m ready to convey to them, that is, when the theme doesn’t come to concerts at all, when mom is interested and dad is interested and daughters are interesting, they all get high. this is the most beautiful thing in general, because not every teenager succeeds in getting respect from adults. especially in a creative environment. they really have the majority of the opinion that our generation is a generation of gadgets and absolutely rash acts. i can speak for myself, really case of adults. i listen to guitar

music, indian music, well, western music. yes , i listened to a lot of it at one time, and i always had it. why don't we have e young on stage. a man with a guitar who plays well and sings well. it’s just that there was no need for another, in general, requests. yes , just to stand up for a meeting, and when i saw on the air, uh, one of the concerts where vanya played the guitar. he sang cool, in general for me it was it. it's like a new breakthrough here in our glass ceiling of show business. and it was very cool, in fact, and as you know , what you are broadcasting and it is very sincere and i, for example, when i listen to the radio broadcast, and i already authored so much that for me i filter very quickly, songs, in in which there is composition, in which there is graphomania, in which there is no soul, and i am very pleased. but today to see you here and talk to you and once again find out, otherwise

the depth in which you really are, but in which you dive and see katya , because that's what i feel from you. this i want nika's other children not to be afraid of this sincerity. you know, it seems to me that the state of closedness does not allow to escape. you will feel this deep escort at school, sometimes children are told, then, like, be more restrained, that is, you must always keep your emotions in yourself. i think it's absolutely. if you want to talk, if so smart, it's just amazing at all. if you want, say you want to rush, go ahead, rush, be sure. these are incredibly wise words, because i was once asked, and hmm whatever law i would introduce e in short , the constitution yes, that's right, and i said that i would ask all parents to send their children to study in the theater for a year, because

the theater is very liberating. i believe that it is very important to learn how to communicate with other people in childhood. and when children are forbidden or type fetters them to himself. i don’t understand this at all, when a child knows how to communicate, get to know each other and all that. this is very good in the future it will help him a lot. katya absolutely agrees. in general, here yes, children are sometimes imposed, like, here, be more restrained here at school, especially they call it imposed will be restraint. it’s always at school that the director is on the set , the director is on the set, of course this is, but the director can offer some of his own thoughts there, that is, or maybe i did this. maybe i ’ll do something like this, but now we won’t say what we’re working on, we can’t say anything. no, you can’t say it’s going well, but there is some work completed. but soon my project will be released, and i play a psychic girl, it was easy to play a girl with e.

here. yes, there is an extra, well, in general, all the heroes, all the heroes in uh movies should be extraordinary, but superpowers. here. in general, i always dreamed of playing in some kind of mystical thriller. here somewhere in a horror movie in some dream was. i really love some horror movies, something terrible , otherworldly mystical. it's just my love my dream come true. yes, yes, pour some more honey for our viewers. and how do you feel about soviet cinema and soviet composers, and therefore i will say i have, but my favorite soviet film. this is me walking on moscow and the diamond arm. this is generally cool in hand. at first i watched with my grandmother, then i watched with my mom and dad, and then i watched it myself. and since then i have watched it myself all the time, but no, i don’t watch, i

’ll feel the new year. what's the magic, right? listen i don’t know, i guess, and then i was going to the cinema, it was different at that time , the film industry was not so developed in terms of cameras and everything cool there, and you can see it, like somewhere around here, how they tried to re-shoot it. what are the jokes of the actors personally that you did not add. it's just that it all looks very somehow native, so soviet cinema, probably, does not like it krut there annually on new year's eve. what's there? well, in short, well, moscow does not believe in tears, too , incredible pictures are alive, simply healthy, although for even us children. this is also native, because there it's just nice to look at. and you still inspire with what our parents once watched in their youth. it's like, it's cool it's like they are on a par with them come on and i'm a template for moscow , something there, who are you from the heroes, uh more all this movie. it seems to me that he is very kind , how to say songs, this is it, and i walk, i walk cordially looks. i

can get through now very much. the song hooked me to the film heroes itself, it's just this, it's like i 'm at home. here are the family ones. here, i don't know. what was winnie the pooh there? cheburashka yes yes, i mean films. i don’t know the baba yaga koshchei and there are fairy tales there. well, in a fairy tale, of course, children watch cartoons, it turns out cartoons. no, not always cartoons. for example, in my past i had a visit at the fairy tale i watched the fairy tales of alexander row and , uh, didn’t see them like, well, there morozko, for example, is 12 months old. we had such cinematography. i remember that they have the diamond arm. and i’m telling you, in moscow it ’s absolutely the same, i watched it, i walk around moscow, i have everything, to be honest, that’s why i can’t drive up and do it. i didn't watch exactly like it, because it really matters in movies. katya

is very cool. it matters now. this is already stomatic knowledge, that is, music is 50% of the success of the film, but guarantees good sanctions, of course, the truth and memorability have also been written now. i really like to do this when they turn to write some music for a series or films. well, everything about this, then i also wanted to ask about this, yes, well, that's how you move ahead and thank god uh, tell me how you see the future of our country. here. uh, what do you have, what do you see in your head. this is a serious question. but i think people are waiting on it. i believe that if children engage in creativity and self-development and tell their parents that they want to love everything around and together with the parent. they will support them in this. i believe that our generation will be simply wonderful in 30 years, exactly the best that we can do. yes? for us, for all of us, it is

to become happy ourselves, and this already determines. no, you understand? well, i really , i probably don’t need to join for drama, but i will join, because i myself have an eleven-year-old son, for example, on a fantastic one who is already playing the guitar, and i just understand that if you give freedom to a child, we are really growing an absolutely incredible generation is growing up. yes, yes, and in fact, these are the most creative people. they are changing our world for the better, and for these processes in general, i believe that this is the moral of the issue that ends. as a matter of fact, release friends. yes, but listen to me. i have a big request for you, if you are called for an interview, please go more and agree more often, because of course, what you say is like you are from home i don’t know what i am , i can bring e there now, but well, it's just that other

viewers of the audience have such an interest in creativity, in the creative industry, in self-realization, and thus there are more children, of course, for children. freedom for children. freedom to the children, of course, the creative industry podcast. our guests are vanya dmitrienko and katya temnova, elena hyper. roman pockets were with you today watch the creative industry podcast was wildly interesting. i wish you success. thank you very much to you too. we wish you all the best, dear friends. go yourself. thank you, thank you