nothing good will come of it, fate loves irony but hates hypocrisy. former us vice president mike pence, who is now running for the main post in the state, opened up in an interview with the well-known american journalist tucker carlson, who asked him about ukraine , too. little military equipment carlson tried to switch the candidate's attention to the states themselves and their problems. and that's what happened next you go to the presidency. and you say that the ukrainians do not have enough american tanks. every city in america is far worse than it was 3 years ago. drive around and see no city has gotten better in the us and it shows. our economy has degraded, the number of suicides in the street has increased, dirt, riots and crime, and this is more and more. and you worry about the ukrainians in our country , most people will not find ukraine on the map , which received tens of billions of dollars

in taxpayers. and you say not enough tanks. what's up with that the united states? i've heard these standard accusations from you before. before so on. they wrote that it was a clear example of how not to do what is wrong in american politics now. good evening is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov. and today i have a very interesting one. the guest has been very popular in russian sports lately. the theme of the change of sports citizenship, and we are

visiting. european champion of world championships russian figure skater yuko kawaguchi i am very glad to see you. we haven't seen each other for so long. although they competed for a long time. it seems to me that your story in the russian national team is probably perhaps the most interesting, let's start from the very beginning, how did it happen that a japanese figure skater began to compete for our country. we first met in america and then she decided to return to russia and i was with her and partner, i must have wanted to skate with a russian. well, that’s how we started, but you fell in love with pair skating around the same time that i saw the great care, this

unites us, right? that's it, you saw being a japanese figure skater in japan yes leg, she's on the leg. she, that is, in her homeland. you saw this wonderful couple fell in love with this sport sometime in the ninety-eighth year. you dreamed of becoming a pair, and the best coach is tamara nikolaevna moskvina of russia, and now i can’t imagine how i wrote them a fax then, who skated so beautifully. i want to do the same to be your student. can i join your group. and you wrote in english, yes, yes. well, i studied russian at the university,

so she said then. there is a very urgent situation in russia, so she is the first, well, how refused, gently refused. i want to want and then let's meet in america since they will go, mom, yes, yes. and she invited you to come to the usa where you were preparing, right? the first year, poop nocturnal, she coached me. i liked the way she monitored. so you were interested, very interesting. well, yes, before that i don’t know how to give a shit about figure skating, and after her lesson, i shamelessly liked figure skating. well, our

mom makes us ride. i just don't hate never mediumism. why are we before with you did not communicate so closely i hate. why did she look at this leg, and so they want to ride, and after class there is little there. well, the strength is even after its occupation , i have dezita. become a friend. well, as if everything with a ruler is beautiful and completely different from japanese ones. and the japanese grand prix i won as one is worn. yes, and then all the same, i wanted a guy to ride a guy to ride. yes, in the japanese collection. yes, the japanese sound, but you so wanted. it has already fully moved to the usa because, if it came, if a single skater

urgently, i'm so at home then, well, if you just can win, and you wanted exactly four turns of skating. that is, you moved to the usa, became a pair with alexander from 4 years ago, you took second place in the current world championship . ride? because you didn't want to skate usa i asked you why you don't want to skate usa and you say it's because hiroshima nagasaki how much daddy do you have

some i don't know. i, while i wanted to skate an american school with a russian partner. this is not my style. that is, you were looking only for a russian partner. and you had a choice. nikolaevna gave you a choice. yes, we have many partners. there is such a one. well, like, i would have a choice to ride, she was a little afraid of her, and sasha is kind, he really will reveal these secrets no, the main thing was offered. we have a lot of secrets, but i also changed, because then it turned out for me that pair skating is such a russian, primordially russian type of figure skating. we won all the soviet olympic games in 1964, then russian pairs, and for

me it was a very dangerous step, uh, to pair up with japanese women. and do you remember that this is the first day when you took sasha smirnov by the hand. and here you are for training yes, i remember the first day of my boyfriend the first day of sasha manganese, when we took it from me, i immediately felt good. leave with me. it's hard for me, but somehow i had to do a lot well, little by little, but we were still moving on. it was one single term and ride. sasha is needed at the same time. i had to switch to groups. it's very hard for me for 3 months. for that, he put us basic. well, that's it, the base is a vase, so i'm grateful for this. why and how did you physically move to russia, how did this move happen , that is, from japan, you first moved to the usa correctly, and then, together with tamara

nikolaevna, igor borisovich, when they returned from the usa to russia you moved with them. i'm dumb, but i'm not a creeper dog i feel, well, how could i readjust it very easily. and i love learning a language very much, and i always dream of using several languages. there they are never loved, brush. well, if you don’t get a figure, rolling, you want four identical russians, when i heard this. well, i hate a little, the joke is so offensive, but now i perceive everything with humor with him, even understand russian jokes, yes russian humor, well , still not quite everything, but and what was the most difficult thing when moving to russia here uh, the other one culture, food, i don’t know what else is normal in st. petersburg metro. not

heated. just a toilet and water water, it's very hard for me. i am water with water. mm became friends after 10 years another phone. it was difficult for me to call my mother, the phone and the international phone where you lived. so, when you just moved in, i’m sasha, yes, and then i still wanted to separate, and then if not my room, here are my friends, there, she nikolaevna is still nothing, and then i still rent an apartment then this new apartment, so my phone is still in the washing machine there was nothing more. and when i need to call, mom, i need to go outside, and there in an hour to stand and call to talk to the payphone. yes, and how did your parents perceive this move to russia

, they were normal about it, and if you understand what they don’t like, then they calmly trust. it is very difficult for me there, because i myself moved to russia from one city to another and it was so expensive for my family. that is, these were some unrealistic financial investments. uh, who paid for all this, then you moving to america your moving to russia these rented apartments, you know my family, not directly rich in vocals usually in japan but then money is the difference japanese money and, well, in russia it is very cheap. well, he did everything in russia now, too. uh, so somehow they couldn't. yes, i just remember when i asked you, yuka, where do you live, and you say, and i bought an apartment. i'm talking about how you bought

the apartment. and you say, because for me it was to buy, you will come to st. petersburg, in general, something incredible, and i say, and how where did you get the money? and you say, well, i , uh, took second place at the world junior championships. well, that i obviously take places in competitions, and i stand thinking, and i am the world champion among juniors. i can't rent an apartment. what were your prizes? well, yes, no, give me the money , but anyway, i managed to buy it, when i still don’t have to skin, she told me that you cook russian cuisine well, you know how to cook borscht, but still it turns out like japanese. and what do you eat in russia what does japanese mean? i i remember that you said that there are no good japanese restaurants in russia, everything is not real tasteless. i do not go, yes, that is , you do not love at all, that is, still not. i don't go to the restaurant very rarely. i just

love to cook myself. and where do you get food sometimes in the whole store, so there are restrictions. he too can find everything in japan no no, so you're probably just not getting it right now. i can't say i'm cooking japanese, to cook and japanese right is very restrictive yet. yes, actually mom sent sends a class together a month and happy. well, yes, and now after the quarantine everything, let it be closed. she can't send. she our shit in the villages there is no japanese, rice, just like that and i say, no and what is your favorite japanese dish. that's what you love most of all is what your mother cooks, yuga, a russian dish, some kind of favorite you have, all sorts of different soups and chicken smelt, but this is st. petersburg. this is if

you live in st. petersburg, marinated is very tasty. well, smelt, you tell me, i have already salivating type, that is, so soups, yes, smelt. and why don't you like sour cream, they all turn out the same, and i like hot ones. and when she's somehow not hot, i can't. i think you are my sister. i, too, have it all without sour cream. and i would also have a very hot soup and started to love figure skating, when i carefully steer for i saw, but before that i hated figure skating before that , i didn’t tie it under the bed and my mother dragged me by the legs and dragged me to the skating rink when you move, in general, to another country one without parents without friends. how did you socialize? how did you find friends? how

did you get them? or are you more of a loner? yes, a big loner, and i'm calm there, but i'm still i took up figure skating. i’m just busy with it, so i didn’t really feel that i had smoked or even there the little one defended all the key to me when you first came to the russian national team for test skates in novogorsk and you just cried. and when i asked you, fork, why did you say that so sad that you feel like you're in prison? yes, because a fence with wire keys was bad, there was still a repair there. now its very changed now. because they, well, you just can’t go out and that’s it. how is that? well, how is the prison? well, that's all, then and so because of the water, very dirty black succumbed. well, then because of this, probably, it is necessary. why are you crying

because you have friends? no, i say no , the water is so dirty. it seems to me that you were treated very well in our team, no matter how offended, yes, therefore, if my friends were a problem it wasn’t only with water, but there were some situations. here, when it can be at the university or just on the street, when people met here, and it seems to me that at the beginning of the 2000s she was still japanese. it's such an unhappy parking lot, let's say, and rinuko you want miho, but it pisses me off so much when they say mikhail mecha, but they never think. you remember something to give. i’m right, you have two more higher educations, and you received these two educations in russia at st. petersburg state

university. you graduated in international relations. yes? this is the first education the second one is very interesting. well, it's an economy in control. it just hurt so much, but the injury was just to spend on training the japanese from russia, i would never have thought, if i have a partner with an injury, that i should go to study, you know, there because of this time, i'm still right. you don't have a car in st. petersburg. that is, you do not like to drive a car and use only public transport in st. petersburg public transport. this i take it easy. but how can i not say, i do not like, but not yet. it seems to me very developed. yes, traveling by public

transport on trains on zero russia in st. petersburg is also still convenient now. i don't want to spend on the road, just stand in a traffic jam and there's no pissing. well, yes, it's hard. let's get back to sports. do you remember how you won your first russian championship and what does that mean to you? what do i have, by the way? i can remind you of this. i think it was 2008, st. petersburg, ice palace. you fell from the ejection. your shoulder flew out and you still beat me a member of russia and you are so bad. no, he's fine. do you remember how you won, you became the champion of russia in doubles, which is not for the best disciplines and a basin, somehow i started skating from russia . it is necessary to think about the responsibility for the steam-boat in russia

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anxiety can and should be treated. find out everything about anxiety on the all-russian portal of the territory dot rf, and today my guest is very interesting. guest russian figure skater of japanese origin yuka kawaguchika from russia with such rivals. and you do win. no, it's okay, we're working on it. oh well, do you remember some kind of victory for you , there is some kind of value, the most valuable - this is the first and second in europe. well, especially on the second one, i think it seems to me that this is the second one. yes, because yes, i think that i

need to tell a little, yes, to our viewers . the fact is that she, like in agouti, with alexander smirnov, together won the european championship in 2010. this is an olympic year. e year of vancouver, but the next championship. i had to wait as much as 5 years. that is, you won next european championship in 2015. really felt like i hmm overcoming also got injured in the olympic season. yes, yes, but i also have a big problem with psychological, as it were, elements, so we worked a lot. and so, well, my fourth dream, my dream 14 got out, because the tenth year we are ready for a quarter, but we refused it. then, by the way, there is a question on this topic. once. you yourself spoke. i just remember how in vancouver we were together, uh, in the same team and we had a training camp. yes training and

i am in this gathering. well, you can say i gave up, because i always wanted to win you. i all thought that there was a chance that there might be a chance that yes they are the first couple they have more support from the federation but i knew that if you make a mistake we will do it, then we can bite you. we sometimes won you anyway. there, at the finals of the grand prix, they bypassed it. absolutely valentine yes, i still kind of believed a little, but at the moment of this training camp before the olympic i realized that there was no chance, because you were in incredible shape sasha yes you did it a quadruple release. it's just so very good. and now tell me why you going to the free program , having done something several times and throwing out at the six-minute warm-up , you refused and vancouver yes at the olympics, and you went and did only a triple even with a mistake. who decided that in europe she

was in a hotel, she said everything. today we will go to something, that is, she tuned me in so easily today. ok then. i kind of agreed that it’s necessary, then it’s necessary, and then everything is at the olympics, although, that’s the same as in europe and the regime after the warm-up, i still didn’t know everything was ours and we went out for, well, a minute of warm-up. she said, right here, right here, this triple i am like that and i didn’t understand anything. and sasha is far away, we have some kind of general conversation. well, the general communication of the sky, the direct contact of the sky then and there and he does not know that here i am so enraged by this dream of mine. they need to come now faithful, and she suddenly says that no, she will not change. and i just

panic. i am an evil adult. that's so evil. i don’t understand that this is the olympics and i went like that. well, i set you up arbitrarily. means you different. do you think that you were my mistake nikolaevna well, honestly now the time has passed. yes, i think that the great coaches are also mistaken right in the middle of the moment, if you were russian, well, with a russian upbringing completely, then you would send, what the hell is this nikolaev doing fourth, but here is your japanese discipline. yes, indeed , they directly refused, skating and such a sight, and this is the only thing that she didn’t say so much that i couldn’t block it right away. yes, i remember how you directly scolded after all all of us for the first time in my life, i never knew that this smiling girl was a fork, who in general, never in my life have i heard you

even raise your voice, and you directly shouted. i remember it right, like you, straight, that is, it’s straight drama, after all, it would be a shame that the building is in such a state. i went to pay randomly. triple simple triple rose is worth everything under and everything. i fell, but we also have some advice for jumping. it seems to me that he or yes, something else is the most fucking, well, rolling and moreover, well, as if unconsciously, you understand. he somehow just passed by so ask. so it's a shame, of course, it's a shame even the fourth place is the most offensive. this is a wooden medal. and then how did you find the motivation to continue working to go to the games, the fourteenth year. four more years i didn’t refuse, they allowed me to take the wine, and then i can. yes, i’m ready to finish. well, just

so he's a career. and the way she is, well, so we had i had motivation. well , that's it, it works, and then this is the tragedy of sasha, yes, when it turned out right away. because without it i couldn't go on riding there is when sasha has an injury, and it happened in october, i know for sure, yes , because uh, then you know the birthday, and what did you feel, you understood that everything was an olympic dream, it floats away from you, because it was clear, that six months, but recovery with such an injury, and well, it was impossible to force. at least the doctors all said that it was impossible, but still i had it. well, this is how it flows so much, so i continue, that is, a miracle. yes , in principle, at least the team could not,

so no. you found strength in yourself at all watch this olympics you looked to japan because you find it in russia is simply unrealistic just on the site so i would have no olympics there. no, calmly, again this olympic dream has been shattered. uh reality injury this time. that is, if a mistake, maybe somewhere the vancouver coach then got an injury and you still, probably, i think you are going through, yes, this moment. well, now you are calm here, probably, well, sometimes yes , at the same time, that i didn’t change my citizenship, they didn’t give the olympiad. everyone thinks that i'm for the olympics. i changed my experiences. no, why did you change? i

was also sure that because you need a passport to participate in the games. no, russian athlete, you need to participate in the olympics, and i just felt it for me. there's a thunderstorm there, one kilogram burns, but he, when i ride japan, she has it. well, so calm. she says, no, i treat everyone equally, treating me like this, as soon as for russia we decided to speak to me directly with energy. that's how, well, in simple words with a serious, you just feel that it's serious some big responsibility, and she enjoys it right kicks. and this is what i wanted, that is, i wanted her to be there in a serious way, well, to train me, especially for russia, and this company is just tatyana drochinina, my loved ones and sasha

, she is still there nikolaevna well, these are teams . it's simple. well, like some kind of miracle woman , you never know where you will find your best friend. my husband calls me and says that they brought the dog. i say "no. no. no, we won't take it. looks like something big is about to happen. well done when was born? sophia is sitting oh, quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet. i say, sasha, you are a parrot nanny, just everything you can stir to interest, weasel, he will start running somehow trying to play muzzles and all that, you saw the video, watch the premiere with us today on the first and always on one tv.ru. it has the highest dosage

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joined us. i remind you that we are visiting the famous russian figure skater of japanese origin yuka that is, i understand you correctly that for the sake of the opportunity to enjoy what you do, for the sake of the burning eyes of your favorite coach. you renounced japanese citizenship, stupid you think stupid. i think these are very cool words. perhaps it is there mom, she always says, i and what your soul is, well , the rise is not what is needed or something. if he feels, there is a rise of some kind of x-site , then it will be choose well, then i’ll do this change citizenship. this, well, for me, this soul sings, so i chose they are the face of the olympics, therefore, you know, as soon as i

changed my passport against a passport, then i felt something from me, some kind of soul. some kind of japanese soul was tearing up and it hurt me. and let's explain that. when you renounce japanese citizenship, dual citizenship is prohibited, and you can get japanese back if i stay here for a long time, then i still need to goodbye to russia while there is work. and basically, i got this russian pasta passport, so that my life would not be more interesting, don't give the olympics because my life should be interesting, and in russia, my life is more interesting for us. and if now, well, nothing, and if you somehow everything is neatly comfortable in japan , it’s too convenient, so you want adventures.

well, after sochi, after all these vicissitudes of your injuries with your vancouver sashimi, you still found the strength to come back and win the european championship in the fifteenth year. who are we, who was the motivator tamara nikolaevna did not let you stop? or you yourself somehow they wanted to, but they also put on a very successful program and when i like it. well, i like the short one too. this is the most favorite place, so i just wanted to finish this program to improve it. and i really like your february. somehow. for the first time i will be grown up music for the first time in my life and even

kostya as i hear it. i start crying and i just want to express the music how i feel and i'm so excited to ride before just so beautifully. well, it's nice to ride. and how did you decide to end your career, how did you finished riding? it's a very dirty story, but it doesn't happen. it seems to me that no one has such a funny story. and if agreed, then you can calmly, but finish, because i am, well , maybe for me, because i have an injury lost achilles and somehow again i don’t miss with the egg, but i’m very bad, well the season is over and no one believes in us. i know this, but my leg is not yet completely

do not breathe at all, but still, i skated straight , only forces more than something in russia they never said there. all right, your colleagues. finish right away. she said they skated and got out of yes, that is, you are at competitions, but at the russian championship , the last one said they haven’t finished yet, their careers have ended, then i’ll skate. you came out, that is, it’s right here, kison, the edge, after a cesarean, yes, perfume right away. your career is over. it's just a whisper. sasha is not urgent, it’s usually the first step of the sangrey board, i didn’t get it. of course, i am also famous for my statements immediately after the rental, but i still have to study and study with tamara nikolaevna she

is calm, and then later i found out that she still doing that we will return again, but already sasha had no emotions. he just got up from my injury, most likely, and you're uh , alone in a foreign country there is figure skating, i felt. this is exactly what i felt. well , immediately what's next. then another navka right away, that is, you started skating in the show. now tell me about your life now, what do you live now. now, well, last year you also skated with another partner. and now i have another partner, but it has not yet turned out with him, but sometimes i skate, but we still in addition, other than figure skating, facial massages japanese massage, no, no, is called

massage surgeons. this is from a spanish massage therapist in st. petersburg. you work in a clinic or whatever, and you have a lot of clients, well, not really a lot. but it's me, on the sly , i'm still working as technical specialists. i do n’t really dislike being a coach, but i don’t have such desires as a coach. i can, well , i can help, but prikinically a specialist. i like it. and why didn't you go back, like i'm nobody. and zero, especially without sasha, who knows whom well, who knows for me somehow i'll be back in japan and that there is no particular way to be a coach in pair skating, they always

train in canada in general, no, i work especially. i don't see yet. and how do you communicate with your parents now, after all, before. you could date. parents could come to you, and now it is very difficult with movement. well, where do you meet? i want to go to mongoria. this is the first time in my life, because i'm definitely in japan, someone from this situation, i'm home lately, but i need to spend time with my mother, that is, if you are now, uh, technical specialist, that is, you, in principle, follow figure skating. yes, try to follow. who do you think is now?