pulozny was chosen for a long time. in general, music, because, well, it’s very voluminous. uh 80's is just so really really cool and cool and slow and groovy. and in general, uh, different music in these years so that we picked it up. it seems to me very unusual options. well, honestly, because so, uh, they must be hard between each other. well, imagine, but uh, i will think that the style of the eighties we yes through this whole program yes, because the rules have changed there and everything is somehow very tricky and complicated there, therefore, it will be interesting it will be really interesting just to see what they are capable of, and people in dancing on ice, what they come up with, because there

well, it just seems to me that the topic is why it is interesting, because on the international arena it will be shown by children of the nineties and two thousandths. judging and coaching will be kids in the eighties and before. well, yes, this is very interesting in this, but in fact, there are enough of them in the rules now. well i can say a lot of freedom a lot of freedom - this is for us to dance. e to in there was so much freedom in certain parts of the short dance, it's just amazing, because it took us a couple of days to rebuild our head like that in order to start feeling more comfortable in these rules, so to speak, because usually we have everything very clearly spelled out, just quite hard. you cannot go to the right or to the left, that is, only in a straight line while following these rules. and now you know so well. yes, you are really lost.

i don't know how to do it. well i always thought at all, i wonder now you listen to those frames because you've always been the one with those frames butting heads with your twizzles. in the yes position of the pistol there is a top, uh, with some kind of support. i just remember that stepan's season of laptoping proved that it was possible. and now you see, this freedom is already, it seems, as if you don’t need it. no, well, it's one thing. you know, when you can, but now it’s just like that , in general, you know very freely, you’re already in shock. that is, even stepanova bukin yes, but in shock. and how are our beds now? yes, how to prove something at all? oh no. okay, this is a joke. in terms of what the truth has now done is quite interesting. and well, let's see what everyone will do both here and on the international arena, but i hope that we will also try to do something in our own style, something with

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this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov. well, we continue to educate children to talk about figure skating. together with our wonderful athletes alexandra stepanova and ivan bukin, you switched to alexander zhulin. this is one more than one, probably the most successful coach of the last russian olympiads of recent years and left. you are from alexander svinin and irina zhuk, with whom you have worked all your life, yes, and judging by your social networks and seeing your communication, when i myself was in the national team and could watch it. you were like a family, and when it happened it was very difficult for me to accept and understand how you decided on this, how did this conversation go? which one of you was the initiator? why is this all? tell me a little about it. i know it's not easy and

you explain it again and again, but it's really not easy because we're not the kind. who got the experience? yes, in different countries with different coaches it so happened that when i moved to moscow and arrived, i immediately went to vanya and we vanya i already visited these trainers with alexander vasilievich vladimirovna and i came to them. and so, from our very start, literally , until recently, we were only with these, 11 vanya 13, and until the age of 16-17 we were with only one team. that's why, of course, it was hard to find words. well , it's practically impossible. well, yes, probably, the words were not right to leave. hey, it's nice to leave. uh somehow, well hugging there. well, it's hard. it's very hard. well, but i think that some time will come, time will pass, and we, probably, i don't know, we don't have them yet

have never seen. i'm here, and that is, you personally do not talk when you leave. of course we are talking. goodbye. i only said thank you. well, because the conversation was very short, it was exactly 30 seconds. we went in, as sasha would say. most importantly, i said thanks thanks. and basically, that's it. unfortunately, i don't know, well, that's how it happened, how it happened, of course, inside. i wanted to say thank you very much and directly, well, how to describe all the merits that we received together still, it's so long, it's a whole life. say goodbye in 30 seconds. it was very hard. but, probably, it was so for us, uh, and it was better for them and for us, because then there would be a lot of different questions, which would probably be hard to answer at that moment. why did we decide? well, because you know somehow this is the season, we moved away from life in

sports and understood. what's wrong? basically, how much is left? this is exactly the kind of work sportswear, we did not receive, as sasha correctly said, some other information from some one and we decided that now i would like to try this try to work somewhere else in a different place with others with a different team. that's get some different vision on us. uh, and in general, uh , some other experience and now take a chance. yes , because it's, well, it's a big risk for us many people who go to other coaches. well, it doesn’t work, maybe it’s necessary to find it. it's almost harder than finding your partner when , roughly speaking, eleven years old is one thing, because you still have a sports career ahead, and when you're already 30, it's already like this, like a moment, well, a short short chance for

it so that we really hope so, well, for the coaches it was a shock when you came or were they already ready, give or take? i think that uh-huh is not straight at all. they were shocked. they would be shocked if we came, for example, right after the olympics, for example , and then told them yes, uh, we would take them by surprise, probably, that it was also quite difficult to get into the olympics. that's why for some time we performed in sochi with ilya verbukh. here and then, here's how once they arrived and the message season passed without us and them, probably, some new guys, but somehow adjusted a little to their new life. so, basically, a little. they probably at that time were able to, as it were, let us go a little bit, that is, we were not

constantly on the ice, and we also lived a certain life of our own. so, i think, we, in principle, it was such a more or less loyal moment when it was possible to disperse and try everyone. well, how to move in your direction and you have chosen the direction of your bitter rivals coach alexander zhulin why exactly alexander zhulin? well, because i, well, yes, i competed with vika nikita, it’s interesting, but in fact, i just didn’t discuss this before, as it were, when sasha was pregnant there, that is, we planned that, but the very fact that i worked with sasha zhulin in the ice age. here i really liked it. i shared this information with sasha. that's what i liked, how does it fit like? well , when a person can sit there , roughly speaking, do their own business, and then once and for some brilliant vision occurs to him. and you, well, like he did a little something, but

he did it very cool. and the most important thing is that it's not fancy, that it's just lying. and you think how it happened? well, that is, it is not yes, or here. now, for example, we are doing the same thing 10 times 15 times. it doesn’t work out, well, something is wrong with him. come here and show. maybe go out on the ice? well , here, here, just a little bit, literally move something here, a hip, a little to the side or a shoulder to open and it turns out. i don't know what he does it. that is. well, these are the moments you can now experience for yourself. and it's very cool. yes, it’s true, here it is, i don’t know, it’s a brilliant vision, probably, how to do it right, i’ll continue a little conversation about the competition between your former sports club and vika nikita, they were visiting us here their graduation. you can also look at the website of channel one and i had a question about you for them. i don't know, maybe you've seen it, then it was pilfered in the press a little bit, yes, and

i had a question. are they jealous of you sasha zhulin yeah and the second question, if sasha zhulin asks for help, well, in some way come and help vanya and sasha and whether some will come or not. if such a situation arises, you will be ready to cooperate with such a huge experience, especially since they know uh trainers. i don't know what he wants and i think they will, well, if , of course, they will agree, and they will help us, because, well, once again, they have a lot of experience, and they have always been above us, and they know exactly what it takes to be that's it on this step, but plus they give us a little bit already helped a little, yes, because tell me, it’s you here . for this, we’ll tell you, we’ll be debriefing now in sochi. show

and so somehow we agreed to interrupt. this is the sleeping beauty show, which will take place this summer in the southern city, sochi, in my favorite olympic, you will definitely have a rest. come look at the bath and sash yes, come, be sure. she asked the guys to come and teach us the parts. yes, we were shown. so we can say that they have already worked a little, that is, they have already received us. roughly speaking, how to roll what we will roll. uh, in july. that's how we worked and it was, by the way, very fun and wonderful. guys, they remembered, they showed us, so we tried, uh, everything, to repeat. so it would have been rolling, uh we went out just like it was right after the holidays. so we're all a little like that. well, we sasha were so slightly floating. but it seems that i managed to learn everything, because nikita answered

that, well, i generally ask if he sees himself coach. he said yes, and has been thinking about it for a long time. yes and so, when i asked him about stepanovich bukin, he said, well, i myself can’t come and start. there to insert some 5 kopecks. well, he says, of course, if the guys ask something, he is open for help , it would be cool, so i will bring you and nikita katsalapov there, as usual, i will take part in my babaha. maksimka zhulin, brought together the whole world of russian ice dance. so to speak. how do you like competition in general ? who can be, friends or compete share the ice, and i'll be honest. i'm quick i won't talk for so long. i 'll tell you quickly. now we are all here, all those new ones who have switched, we are all working. and we, frankly, are little distracted by each other,

because we have a lot of things to do, roughly speaking, and we are all on the ice, but we really work endlessly. we try to emphasize something from our new coaches. no, well, what was there suddenly turned out to be all i honestly did not expect. i knew what was there, and lisa and pasha were skating. they used to ride with sasha before. this is shanaeva. pavel drozd is also ours wonderful duet. yes, then just information about liza and yegor came after vanka and i had already moved there, that 's for me elizaveta khudoyberdiev. egor bazin champions of russia interested in dancing on ice, but in the absence of stepana for me it was. well, it's surprising that it also seemed to me that they had very good tandems with their previous coaches. here we are, like this , all of a sudden once and all ended up in one place, but it seems to me that it will be interesting. in any case, when you are the only couple in

group. well, it doesn’t matter in the masters, that is, what level. what level are you there second couple always wonder when you do? well, let's say, a short dance, when you do the same thing, that is, we still have different dances from juniors. and even just to look. someone needed something better than someone else. that is, in any case, but there are so many people to look at. something i don’t know to ask there, maybe even that. well, plus the rivalry is such a good rivalry. it too. i think it will benefit everyone in this group. it is clear how they grew up. e, with the previous team, they switched to the new one as soon as they took it and how they continue to treat each other, and tatyana anatolyevna tarasova told you something after your transition. but we personally did not talk about it with her later. well, somehow it so happened that there was no such possibility. so we would really be happy,

because for me she always seemed so yours, like a godmother, mom, or something, she’s all kind of led your couple? she seems to be, yes, as always , she was very close to us, but at the same time she was very far away, because we honestly don’t have her. for example, i know that anatolyevna, at least for you, used to be able to visit cska very often, that is, we didn’t have that. yes, she came to us, of course, but it was very, very rare. well , yes, twice a season. perhaps that was enough. she was very close to us at the same time, as if they were. not really under her supervision and under her remarks, so to speak, you guys missed, as i said, the previous season for various reasons was pleasant, how exciting was the season in russian ice dancing for you and did you follow it. and i was so afraid of this question, my god.

okay, well, as there is i can voice i was not very exciting. but no. i can honestly say that i have observed. so i watched and well, and when it came time to make a decision to return or not, and i already said for sure i would return. i can honestly say that for me everyone was a little bit like relaxed. yes, as if relaxed, that is, i don’t want to offend anyone in any way, but after all, none of these guys were at the olympics. why be relaxed here is absolutely stressful news for everyone. well i do not know. i think i had the feeling that every start and start. i saw that someone was wrong. someone might not have arrived there, but it was all the time, but all all the leaders were all wrong, and it seems that no one, take it to me, has been there for a long time. even entered the expression of dancing until you drop. we have them well, unfortunately, what is honest in the past

season i have not seen directly such a serious leader. that is, which would directly, well, come out or or, for example, there are two leading pairs that could among themselves, yes, between themselves like that. well, exactly, not that there is someone who made a mistake, someone flew out, well, someone won. and what do they all ride it cleanly. and here is something. well, i didn't notice that. uh, saw that yes, that's all relaxed for me. this is probably a fitting description of the past season in dancing on ice. well, i did not see that such a specific generational change had come. a specific couple that we are used to seeing finished or missed there jones tiffany, we also we didn’t have a season of vika sticks, that is, right, well, i don’t know this one, well, it’s gone, really, here’s a generation, probably for some period , but we missed you not in the comments. i'm not in the comments. you are in an interview. we will try very hard now, and

do everything so that again you are glad that we have returned. here's hoping it works. i'm sure it will work. it's just that we want, besides being back to what we also want to learn to be different, that is, to try. that's it e to show that we can not only as we always know how. well, something, maybe not this season, because this season, uh, you have to come, you have to feel it back, even though only a year has passed, roughly speaking, when we did not perform. well, but for us it is a whole life and to come again, to this directly maximum form, of course, probably will not work. i think max. maybe you know what i 'm talking about, uh, maybe not this one, but next season and beyond. they will much more, probably, indicative than now, that is, i don’t want to say directly that i’ll go out right now, that’s all. well, as if

we were there. well, i don't know. we've never been like that, but i really want to show it. uh, something else that we're capable of, something more than we've done before is happening. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov. well, we continue to educate children to talk about figure skating. together with our wonderful athletes alexandra stepanova and ivan bukin, you guys, in general, the story of your couple. this is the story of overcoming, because at first they were not invited to the olympics. vanya, you didn’t participate in korea because of this you didn’t gain the necessary experience so that you can show a higher place now in beijing, because i know for myself how the second olympics is easier than the first even to take your rivals. yes, there vika and nikita also didn’t have them in the eighteenth, but he had them at 14. that is, they still had some kind of accumulated baggage. now again this suspension again does not invite us. and

this is all in your lifetime. how do you stay motivated and why does he want to move on anyway? well, first of all, i believe that they will let us in. i believe it because, well, without us. i see also the national competition and i want to believe that all international federations understand that, uh, when strong russian athletes compete. it looks much more interesting, bewitching and well , unfortunately, for me it is now exactly on our sport in the international in the global in on a global scale. he is in such a storm and i want it all to return to that norm again, where we went out to communicate with different athletes. and because it's cool. it's great. this is news. yes, this unites

sports. he is also for peace. well, it's very important for me that now it's like everyone wants us to be here, well, this big beautiful sport, which is always like, well, i don't know the roses and has progressed on some colossal scale, because now it's a little bit sad, and i want everything to be as it used to be, as it were, i don’t know. honestly. excuse me, please, will this be inserted or not, but i just didn't want to say it. no, that's right. this is very beautiful and the right words. i think that many, many people are gradually thinking about this. and not even in our country i would like to believe it. and, of course, you want us to come back, you come back. not just like that, but still showed. there are other competitions that you missed. it was a new tournament, an exclusive russian challenge. and

you did not participate in it for obvious reasons. tell followed. wish i wish i live called. i say let's do it. well, i say, if everything goes as, uh, it means it is planned, then we will go with you to perform. i say, i 'll call the federation there. well, so that we are simply not written off. it seems to me that he laughed very hard in his soul, probably he was already planning to perform there with another partner. when before yes call stock. i'm a little like that, of course. well, then i thought, no, well, it's impossible. and well, in principle, that's what happened, because, well, it was unreal there, it really was it really could have been three weeks, really, as we would like it to turn out, therefore well, how would it be in general this detachment. well, it is clear that i went out. i did not go out. i went out to stand on the ice.

but yes, but it would be cool, but he just wouldn’t be very beautiful, probably, it would be vanya, he would be handsome, of course, and i ’m so-so, but i will say that i was delighted and delighted. from this, too, no, because it somehow, well revived revived, in general. that 's what i think, damn it, i was so skeptical at first. i think how, well, when it's all here on such a scale, something i'm so stunned by the way, i didn't really like it scary, honestly, at least for someone. well, no, actually, really, i really enjoyed this tournament. and who the hell was invited? well, on the jury too, believe me, no, i mean, well, i didn't expect such people, you see, it was very nice. that here are some people a little bit. they didn't rate you . here. maybe yes? here but i watched on tv and watched everything interesting in a new and fresh way and the whole generation.

it was very cool for me. we are waiting for you in the new season, together with the crooks, not only in this tournament. now i would have completely different goals now for sports and i miss both sledding and sports. i think that's fine, but something to complete our conversation. i won't repeat that we missed you. i just know how much the fans missed you because i see both in the comments and in the discussions that as soon as they started talking about you this season , they immediately returned to ice dancing again. i don’t promise to return to the previous level in pair skating. i'll be back, but thanks for being with us that you are competing. and that you are so beautiful that you came to us today. i think we had a great conversation. at least it was easy and pleasant for me. thanks guys. mutually. mutually. thank you very much for the invitation . and thank you for the wonderful interview. it was a free program podcast. i am maxim

tankov and today we are wonderful dance duet our champions sasha and vanya stepanova bukin thank you . why are they sticking around? hello , today we gathered our thoughts about prank manipulation and information field in general vladimir kuznetsov alexey stolyarov better known as vovan and lexus i am vladimir left. yes, we are starting. please tell me, i would not like to ask you 1101 questions today. how are you doing? yes? let's talk about the information field in general. yes, what is it like, how to live in it , fight and so on. and you know what my

pre-question is. but where do you get your information from? i mean, not for getting the news. well, i mostly probably have telegram telegram chats. yes, plus if you need to find out some somewhat alternative information, there is twitter, but it is clear that each telegram channel. still, but, well, someone is interested and it is necessary to filter. where are you from? well, similarly, i just try to use all possible sources from federal television channels. e youtube telegram channels and, accordingly, something somewhere in the middle for a hospital, information by me. here, uh, it comes from there. in what i try exactly different, exactly different, well, of course, the genre works professionally. yes, after all, but you agree that we

today. and this, in general, is a blow to classical sociology. yes, we are different today. not only there by gender, age and so on. but mainly according to the sources of information, and therefore here is the sociology of marketing, which was once based precisely on gender, age, some stories or social groups there. yes, they collapsed today, because, relatively speaking , there are some teenagers in the same class. yes , they are. who have favorite bloggers about the existence of each other's bloggers, they may simply not know, is this true or not. and yes, so there is, let's say, and even take a television internet audience. here is a classic example. if they compare, then the internet and television, well, let's say, when we also often go to television, all kinds of television broadcasts, and from this subscribers in social networks they do not increase, because if we hope to call on ours, call on people. here, let's say. the same audience, after all, well , on tv, it is somewhat older,

probably, and young people, who, for example, read us in telegram channels or in what vkontakte on youtube, they don’t really watch tv here, well, and if you take the classic tiktok, which used to work in russia, there are completely different opinion leaders for young people there for 614-16 years old people, oh, whom we don’t know at all further, but they have millions of millions of views. see question. so you say, other opinion leaders. it seems to me that the problems are still radical, that the point is not that other opinion leaders. here i repeat again. there are eighth graders in one class. yes, they may have favorite heroes of existence, which, that is, the heroes of another, yes, their people may not know, because this has never happened. well, yes, segmentation is serious. and if we return even to the experience that was before now, then relatively speaking, some tenth grader he could listen to the same music, as, relatively speaking, another

person, 10 years older than him, conditional rock music. yes, there are these rock leaders, that is, the tastes were, in fact, not much changed over the years. and now even six months. if people there have a significant difference in this generation, that is, in six months they appear some new leaders. well, the importance of leaders is falling. i've heard pr people, they even say the departments of the media space, that is , the leaders of public opinion are crowbars, yes, if earlier a lot was built on them, well , there is advertising, marketing and so on, then today. i understand that their value is declining. well, here's the strength, maybe their speeds, which we talked about, like that's the story there with the butterfly. yes , from the chrysalis de butterfly literally. today you are a star and a plus. this is the youth who thinks that here we are, we began to receive some money and big, and millions of views all this forever earlier it can stay for 10 years, let's say, it's stable there, and now a year will pass, it's all good a year, and that's all, and all this will end. but look. well,

if you try to analyze in general, what infan-space, if i represent today? i recently could not stand it, i also wrote in my telegram about one situation, when a everyone began to discuss events that had not yet taken place, based on well, unverified sources. and so they imagined a lot of things for themselves, then the event happened, it turned out to be completely different and people, instead of admitting that they were wrong in predicting this event, because they did not check the sources, they are not ready to admit it. and experts or experts. i don't know. and they start coming up with conspiracy theories. they say that in fact we were not shown everything. not everything was said there and so on. i somehow exclaimed the rules of three sources, but in the end it was time and one of my colleagues wrote, well, some kind of naive romantic is all. absolutely in the past the information field has changed radically , no one checks anything. well, how do you not want to believe at all, what do you think? well, yes, no one checks and rather the media do.