on transportation and cruel, since innocent civilians were killed . answer from russia of course , the ministry of defense is preparing a corresponding proposal. we'll get back to the russian response in, uh, literally in 2-3 minutes. but first, let's listen to what he said, and deputy prime minister marat khusnulin, who is located near the crimean bridge , personally examined it today and spoke with experts. the railway part of the bridge operates as normal trains run on schedule one track has minor damages that do not affect the movement of trains, railway builders conduct a survey to determine the scope of work on the movement of the automobile part.

so far, it has been suspended based on the results of a visual inspection of the span supports found that as a result of the terrorist attack, one span structure of the second part in the direction of taman was completely destroyed ; another span cannot be restored ; is on the support of the builders the design engineers conduct a full survey, which means that divers are working, i can report that, according to the first preliminary inspections of divers, damage to the supports. no, this is very good information. that is, we expected the worst support in the normal state. that is, it is obvious that this is once again, as we said, a serious problem that will cause serious inconvenience to those who are heading to crimea or leaving crimea, but this is not something fundamental that will well affect the life of the peninsula and russia's ability to maintain the peninsula and in the military. well

just in the usual civil human terms this person will return to the question, and what russia can do in response to this terrorist act. and you, senator jabbarovsk, said, today we have a lot of quotes, so about it. and what, but one answer is to free, and nikolaev is to free odessa and, in general, close it. e ukraine access to the black sea. and this idea is very seductive for me, because, firstly, i see in it great, if you want historical justice. secondly, the idea of ​​alexander dugin, which i support, that ukraine is becoming like carthage with russia like crimea and that this carthage is being used today, how anti-russia is directed, if

you want the existence of russia and of course, the sovereignty of ukraine, and the movement of ukraine to nato and at the same time control over odessa nikolaev. this, it seems to me, is absolutely nonsense. and finally. today, russia announced the end of its participation in the supply of ukrainian grain, and such a topic, in general, well, did not stand, at least when it comes to sea deliveries, if odessa and nikolaev were under russian control, having said this. here you go, i do not know the case in the fight against terrorism, when in a situation where terrorism is carried out not by individual groups, but by a state that openly uses terrorist methods. i don't know of a single

case where terrorism has been stopped, but simply carried out against. uh, this state is some kind of conventional military action, which at this stage still does not promise an immediate and complete victory, see the fact is that one of the main goals of nato, apart from others, is in this movement to the east. this, of course, was is, crimea whoever owns crimea controls the black sea, everyone understands this very well. and of course, they still cannot forgive what happened in 2014, when crimea returned to their native land. here we are now talking about what happened today on the crimean bridge at dawn. do you remember that quite recently there were problems in the sea of ​​azov, when it was still an inland sea , where there were

constant provocations for ukraine and russia, constantly trying to arrange some kind of clashes to transport explosives, as soon as we got out, in general, forced all ukrainians. there's a problem. no more in this regard. what is it, odessa nikolaev yes, you know historically, you are right, these are our russian cities, in general odessa on e , founded by catherine, that is , ukraine has never been there in my life well, as long as this regime in ukraine will exist, odessa nicholas that is, all regions that go to the black sea will be constantly used to attack the crimea to attack our black sea fleet, so there are two options, either in ukraine the regime is changing, it becomes a regime that will refer to russia. we simply make these areas russian.

by the way, there is nothing surprising here, despite the fact that the population of nikolaevsky from odessa, as if silent, the same thing happened, if you remember from zaporizhzhya kherson however, they are with great pleasure, judging by the results of the referendum, they became part of russia and i think that the same thing could happen with odessa nikolaev but if we don’t close this abscess, this is a constant threat to our fleet, our crimea , because, uh, you can, of course, repeatedly the protection of both the crimean bridge and the territory of crimea in general will be strengthened, but more and more new ideas will constantly arise. it will be a huge amount of force spent on trying to counter the terrorist state, you know, senator. i'm in complete agreement with you. and uh, medium term so more long term, i don't see any other solution to my question. it's uh a little bit

more specific and with a focus on what can be done today. i said that uh i don't know the cases when it would be possible stop uh terrorism, not u completely destroy the state of terrorism. uh, if uh, this state is a terrorist, well, he considers this kind of activity an existential need for himself, because i thought that in general, there are probably some small states that are under the threat of destruction, which are under the threat of destruction may retreat. even if some additional measures against them are not applied. well, what's the matter, ukraine is a very unusual state in this regard. and with

a sense of all permissibility, but on the other parties, their sovereignty is limited and they are supported. in general, powerful states and such a powerful union as nato , that's what the russian foreign ministry said today about this, that what happened was the result of a joint operation of the naval forces and the security service of ukraine, this confirms the involvement of the country's political leadership and special services in the terrorist attack, even more cynical and the reaction of a number of ukrainian parliamentarians to the tragedy of the family was monstrous. kulik, they began to mock human grief, which allows us to draw conclusions about the level moral and mental development of kiev politicians on the fact of committing a terrorist attack, a criminal case was initiated, within which the necessary investigative measures are being taken, we are sure that the perpetrators will be identified and will not escape justice if the western origin of the surface unmanned aerial vehicles that attacked the bridge is revealed, as well as the role of western countries in sponsorship planning and implementation of this

operation, this will confirm their co-operation. in the terrorist activities of the kiev regime, this statement seemed to me very correct, because it has, uh, if we put it that way, a healthy balance between uh, a very tough position, if the responsibility of u ukrainian sponsors is proved and uh, reasonable reasonable stubbornly that you must first investigate, and then apply measures. and for some reason i think, uh , some kind of involvement of uh the united states of great britain that, most likely, it will show up. i don't know which one i don't want to predict in any way. i simply don’t have enough information for this, but, uh, alexander

dugin now, if it were to interfere, what would it be proven. what could russia have done , besides, how to speed up the course of the special operation and hope that in the interim in this interim, until it succeeds. what is it, and further military pressure on ukraine is enough to prevent further terrorist attacks. in my opinion. uh, you can judge criminals like you can judge nazi criminals only after defeating them, until we can’t imagine ourselves even in the distant future. russia’s victory over america and england. in my opinion, even if we get 100% proof that they were involved in this, uh, and most likely with a high probability they were involved, well,

we cannot carry out any serious punitive measures against this powerful state, but we have system response. so i think that in no case should terrorist acts be responded to by terror on a necessary large country. it just can't afford it, and i agree with senator zhabarov that the strategic response, especially after russia's withdrawal from the grain deal, would be to first of all, establishing control over the exit of this terrorist nazi state to the sea zone and then the presence, there, of british uh, military forces and american uh instructors or warships of aircraft. russia would simply lose legitimacy in odessa , russian, the city of nikolaev, a russian city, part of novorossiya. in principle, we are fighting for the liberation of novorossiya, at least, and in my opinion. now our

hands are completely untied, it's another matter that now everything converges and this ugly one. cynical vile terrorist attack at the same time and it will be played. if we don’t systematically respond now, they will find new gaps in our defense again and again i will attack like this. they are no longer the first, this is the second time they attack our old russian lands, the new russian lands. i think there is, uh, only one answer. it is necessary to concentrate and throw everything better, uh, forces not to protect the bridge or our water areas, but to attack what is necessary now, to the attack necessary to regain control over uh, the former ukrainian border with the black sea. here, then we will actually punish both the british and the americans, who are certainly involved in this uh, but not directly, but through the

intermediary whose hands all this is happening, why uh let me be the devil's advocate. and why are they directly, well , directly with us, in my opinion, not at all. directly, this immediately automatically translates into a situation for a nuclear war, because any direct collision with the anglo-saxon countries is a snap. in the literal sense, they can inflict. uh, strikes on russian territory . of course, they told you that this is not territory. russia is the territory of ukraine yes, this is not the point of view that is shared by the russian leadership and the vast majority of russians, that is, they can inflict such strikes, a and proceeding. uh, that they are safe, they can. that's what they do, so they can. and here's what we can really do. erase is terrorist. she is a nazi state from the face of the earth. it is

also difficult, but it will be a punishment for them, for their owners, the most serious and fundamental punishment. this is the restoration of our sovereignty, this is the provision of our national interests already, what else can this nazi regime throw out, how soon its uavs will reach the russian parasitic nuclear power plants, when they will make a dirty bomb on their territory. it's obvious that we are dealing with insane people who have gone deep into the elements of a terrorist war and are completely not expensive people. i think that the existence of ukraine in itself is incompatible with the existence of a sovereign russia, but if we carry out this huge plan, we will achieve this victory. i think that we let's deal the most serious blow, without going over to nuclear war, to the forces that stand for ukraine. this is mine. i think that we are far

from having exhausted that potential, but conventional weapons, which separates us from the use of nuclear weapons. and this distance is very large. we stand at the beginning as well, while activating our resources they go much deeper. for some reason, we just save them and don't use them. here. uh, famous nazarov knee, film director, general electric car. here you have the feeling that you have to support me, because i am in the minority and, uh, i am fighting with wonderful people, and in general it has come to the point that alexander dugin is moderate compared to me. and i'm asking a question that is from my point of view. i simply have to ask these questions. i'm not trying to predict the answer, but i believe it's inevitable that there should be one question. and, if

such strikes are inflicted on the territory of russia and are applied in general. everything, and with great uh and great disregard for what russia can do in response and constantly in washington in london and brussels a-a the view is changing as acceptable and it is assumed that we will do more and more. we 'll talk more about this program. in general , the question arises, if you want to avoid a nuclear war. or do you want to avoid, rather than a controlled escalation, is it necessary to demonstrate at some stage in another country? that, uh, you understand that ukraine is just a spear in their hands. do you want to drink a cop? do you want to destroy how? well, you

understand that after all the main reason the main mechanism of the battle is completely different forces. and if other forces feel they have immunity. in general, you are very difficult for you to turn the tide, what will you say in response to this. well, you know, yes, i agree with you in this sense, you understand, it’s clear that we have maratakh usnulin, who can fix everything and build everything anew, but strictly speaking, he is, of course, an outstanding master, but strictly speaking focus only on his parasitic talent - it seems to me not enough. it seems to me, of course, it should still be some real answer in itself is the question that nikolaev odessa well, yes, this is, so to speak, a common victory.

well, while the operation is going on difficultly and strictly speaking, if in this sense we again do not give some kind of clear and precise answer, which in my opinion can be given, we should turn, by the way, to the experience of our predecessors of the ussr in general, this was a cruel the war of the special services, by the way, they shot down planes in the far east and we shot down the american ones and they shot down ours and that's somehow. you know it was, if you remember such. yes, he seems to be, of course, it's all terrible. but what to do war is war? remember the story of the korean military. well, yes, well, the point is that it worked. it worked. they knew that it was better not to mess with the soviet union. this is what is very important. i'm very grateful that you said that. this is a very important understanding. well

, it’s better not to connect the soviet union then from russia today. for example, uh, if it was about what russia should do in response, i would be very, very careful, because i would understand that there could be the most serious consequences, uh, and how to wave your arms around instead of thinking that another country can do it is not courage. and this , moreover, is not absolute wisdom, but on the other hand, to allow a situation in any long term when the enemy has the feeling that they have immunity? it is too. it seems to me that not only is it very dangerous. it seems to me that this is unnatural and i do not want to be a prophet. it seems to me that in a country like russia, not

a single leadership in the long term will be able to take such a position, but i don’t i want to say non-resistance, uh, the evil of violence, because russia is more than resisting the violence in ukraine and, as we see it, very successfully, but how to take the position that the organizers and patrons of this violence will continue to feel safe. well, i can't imagine that the russian leadership would allow this in the long run, because if it continued. that would be some other terrorist acts, and there would be inevitable questions. why is there no answer to this. and i know what the answers might be, i don't necessarily. i do not recommend. i know them here

for example. and between washington and new york there is such a very large and beautiful wax. it's called the business morel breach, it's the bridge that's on the main highway, highway 95, which goes from florida from miami to the canadian border. and it's a very important bridge, and i myself saw military trucks of military equipment on this bridge. so using using logic, and this can be said to be a legitimate military decision. there is another very famous bridge. here he is. and this is my golden gate, which is very important for san francisco and for california which are, if you want a symbol of the english

capital many what is called closer to the point there are bridges across the dnieper e in the ukrainian capital and if we are talking about transport arteries, there is a railway station where foreign leaders like to stay, and leading a western aid to zelensky is all i want to say. and the son will involuntarily come to someone in moscow’s head with the idea that these are also those objects that can be considered as legitimate and, if you like, effective goals, and i i wouldn't want to scare anyone. what would you say, only on my own behalf and i repeat, i do not offer, but simply share

my observations. it seems to me that it would be very dangerous not only for russia, but no less for the united states, if the american leadership began to proceed from the feeling of false false immunities, because this immunity, from my point of view, will last for a long time. what do you say to this alexander but i think that you know, it seems to me that if we have the opportunity, strike a sensitive blow most of all i care about in bridges. across the dnieper, nevertheless, i would like this part about and the london bridge about the american master i left you, how would you know america better, how would you understand the consequences, i just wanted to mention the topic of the junction, which are better known in america yes, it’s like you like specialist, but about the mastynet dnieper in my opinion. and

we have, uh, resources in order to turn them into incapacitation too, and it seems to me that dasha is in order to focus on a real full a fundamental crushing victory victory in ukraine we all the same, it is we who still lack determination, it’s only in the regime, and in order to blow up the force is enough , you think, yes, at least when there is determination, this is what is missing from the force, it is possible to refine it somewhere ; here is the determination, if we lack this, the determination to really fight from ukraine, at least they howl with us, they commit terrorist attacks on our territory. they are constantly attacking us. and we always observe some rules, then ammonia, then a grain deal, if we fought really at full strength, then i think that this measure, and blowing up bridges, that's

really striking. evil. this infrastructure would already exist then, in my opinion. these bridges in america in london, they themselves would tremble with this yeast. couldn't leave them alone for now. they would have trembled, brought into resonance with those with that real mudar that we can and should inflict on ukraine. i think that something was stopping our leadership. still , they believed that those agreements were different red lines will not be agreements , the lines will be respected. they will intersect. there are many more lines. the american press constantly writes about them, where they say that there is also an agreement between the cia and the fsb and with our security council, where other lines are outlined. which missiles are being transferred where? what installations are moving and consultations are constantly going on, but it is that side that these lines are endlessly violated , so if you make such a, well, as if

the assumption is the hypothesis that they violate any agreements of negotiability. what would we did not conclude at any level and at any level of interaction between us and the west, we will have a free hand. we, too, will then behave resolutely, recklessly, proceeding from our own interests. we have to give a word, because in addition to being a senator. so your last word . before we move on to other topics, you know, i absolutely agree with alexander yuryevich. she says, here's what to say, pay attention. but when i read the message in the morning at 5:00 am, and there were some messages with comments, what was there, but there wasn’t immediately smash, then immediately smash. this is what our president said the department of defense is preparing a response. and when this will happen nobody knows, and this is the most terrible deferred punishment, because now they will think about what will happen next, by the way

, that's what when before our program, i looked at the flow of cars from kiev going to western ukraine , they are afraid. they are probably afraid of what we talked about, what will be inflicted. therefore , i think that everything is in our hands and the leadership has been taken absolutely right. solution i think management will make the right decision, but i want the other leaders who they shined in london to make, uh, the right decisions, and this requires that they do not think that they have immunity, which they have from my point of view no, we're leaving the ad , we'll be back in just a few minutes. naphthalene was shaken off with yulia tymoshenko. is it possible that the experiment of the minister of ukraine, after a long silence, is returning to big politics again? i understand that this puppet of them, who now holds the position of president suits timoshenko was remembered

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used these same cluster munitions. you would be a war crime. but now this ammunition is already being provided to ukraine and, uh, they say that well, firstly , it’s clear that ukraine is a victim of aggression, so other standards are applied here, but in addition , they say that ukraine promised not to use this ammunition in cities and in places of accumulation citizen population, but if someone believes in this, then let them look at the recent statement by the commander of the ukrainian troops. uh, who stated the following is uh general zaluzhny let's see what he told the washington post, why should i ask someone for permission? what to do in enemy territory? for some reason i must think that i can't do anything there?

why because putin will use nuclear weapons to dying children, it’s still our problem and we decide how to destroy this enemy in a war, you can and should kill on his territory, if our partners are afraid to use their weapons, we will kill with our own, but only as many necessary. well, uh, this is how the ukrainian troops perceive the non-existent obligations of the united states not to use these weapons, then to some objects and in some areas. and with us now on skype, the leading military expert ruslan pukhov ruslan hello, glad to see you ruslan, i have a simple question. although i'm not sure he has a simple answer. do you know that the official argument in washington is that since ukraine used so many artillery shells that, while america

even ordinary shells, to give even more kiev is not left here, that's why you have to use these uh, cluster munitions from your point of view. to what extent the appearance of these cluster munitions will have real military significance. you know, there are two aspects here, one, as it were , moral and ethical, and the second is purely military yes. let's start with the moral and ethical aspect in 2008, as you know, ah, convention on the prohibition of cluster munitions, however, the united states has not acceded to it. by the way, how not to her joined. e, russia and ukraine therefore, from the point of view of, as it were, legal and international restrictions or obligations assumed on the use of these weapons. no, however, in fairness, it must be added that since 2008 the united states has been conducting a destruction program,

and cluster munitions, which, by the way, they have much more than the soviet union had, and they refrained from transferring. e of these ammunition. uh, in the third hand they kept them for themselves and biden. the administration was pushed through or this decision was made by it, in principle. it is not so easy to add that at the moment a decision has been made to supply ammunition manufactured in the eighties and nineties, and only for artillery pieces. that is , a decision has not yet been made to supply them for missiles, such as atakams or for multiple launch rocket systems, so there is always where to fall, so to speak. yes, if we talk about the war, the ukrainian side actively used it, there is always a place to fall, and the problem is that all our experience with the help of western assistance to ukraine was that, uh, when such

sorts of restrictions are mentioned, but when the process has already unequivocally passed, then every time that, the fall that you said, it happened every time and, of course, the fact that ukraine uses such a number of artillery shells. absolutely disregarding. uh, well, with some restrictions here, with some ideas about what needs to be saved, especially when it ’s not yours, you don’t produce it yourself. and when you are given such restrictions, the ukrainians do not experience it in any way, i will tell you honestly. here is the moral country of the case. she, of course, interesting, but with this kyiv regime. it seems to me in this regard. in general, everything is clear, but something else is unclear, where your expertise is very important for the supply of these ammunition, but it

will help, e.g., the ukrainian army in some real sense, or this. in general, but disgusting. and this is very suggestive of gloomy reflections, but about the fact that the united states is ready. well, after all, from a practical point of view. it is not so important. is it important or very dmitry there is no miracle of a weapon that, by magic, can solve problems, however, unlike conventional projectiles. let's say. uh. this type of projectile can fly into a trench and inflict. uh, serious damage, even to soldiers hiding in deep trenches, these shells are especially effective against artillery e of our systems, especially towed ones. that is, those that are not covered, like self-propelled uh, installations with at least some kind of armor, therefore, again , on the one hand. this is not some, so to speak, there is a golden silver bullet, but

on the other hand. this will facilitate their task and complicate ours, that is, in other words. this a real step on the path of escalation so yes, definitely a serious step on the path of escalation. now i want to change our subject and ask about the ukrainian offensive. it looks like it's stalled, but it's stalled because, uh, they 're regrouping somehow. i think it's some new methodology, a and are preparing a new big hit with their remaining reserves or indeed. they generally don't know what to do and can be considered their big offensive. and it's over. but if not defeat, then at least very

serious failures. in terms of their plans and expectations. and what should be this very disappointing. you know, probably we should sing victory songs? it is too early? uh, after all, the weather, let's say, yes, and the number of ukrainian reserves, like ammunition in equipment in manpower . it uh, allows them to still conduct active operations. however, there is one very important point. everyone so expected some kind of success from them, and everyone so expected some kind of military cunning. and it turned out that these miracle warriors are not capable of anything, how to hammer with direct blows on the very say, uh, we predict the route, which in particular. we have discussed more than once in your program. and probably this is not due to the fact that we are dmitry, but great military strategies. and yet, probably, this zaluzhny is not so good, who is so, but beautifully giving interviews to the western media say in western

publications they say more and more that one reason for ukrainian failures is uh, very well built and uh, very wide, uh, mined fields, but besides, they say that ukraine doesn’t succeed, and the bottom is somehow at least balance. i'm not talking about air superiority and it doesn't work with effective tactical air defense. and i know that, in general, the expectations in washington were that at least the ukrainian air defense would be very successful. apparently it doesn't happen that way. well, it is quite obvious that this is what the ukrainians and their fans, so to speak, were counting on, uh, and there are no allies in the west

, that is, the war has its own logic , i’ll say more, what we talked about when there were unexpected visits to our territory, yes, and or those ukrainian events that were more successful that fall than ours led us to some degree of overreaction, yes, and in this case , this overreaction played a plus for us. yes, that is, we seriously prepared. yes, we have prepared a serious line of defense, and we see that they are their teeth. at least some of those teeth about that defense broke off that's gratifying. but including this one, it dealt a blow to no one, but to morale, because when in any military conflict, it’s very important. uh, how do you feel in this world , you know these ancient warriors uh vikings berserkers. yes, after eating some kind of miracle grass

or fly agaric. they could fight there with severed legs for a while, when they were bleeding, yes, that is, they did not know that they were killed. yes, and here. that's what we managed this successful defensive operation to bring down the sing. and with the ukrainians of their allies. and this is already quite obvious. it is impossible to show this with any posts and some marathons of friendship in waving flags it is obvious that, if not all of their offensive, then the first phase of their offensive, bogged down and this is unconditional. uh, inflicts a moral blow on them and we see how they, but creak with anger. huge to you. thank you. take care of yourself and hope to see you back at the studio soon. and now we're leaving for advertising, we'll be back in just a few minutes. damn, the props costume

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a 10-month installment plan and up to 10% cashback. the water supply is mined, as well as electrical networks, allegedly turned beyond the porozhye region into a minefield to an empty car of this topic, no evidence is given for this ukrainian media write that the russians leave the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant as children. i decided to leave for the weekend, how the amber room got into fakes ukrainian propaganda, and where does the boorish antifree, tomorrow on the first and always on 1tv.ru. the other big news of the day is russia's decision not to renew the so-called grain deal, and this has caused a predictable reaction in

the collective west and a predictable reaction from zelensky. well, let's first listen to what putin's press secretary, dmitry peskov, had to say about this. in fact, the black sea agreements have ceased to operate. today, as the president of the russian federation said earlier, the deadline july 17th. unfortunately , the russian part of the black sea agreements has not been fulfilled so far, therefore , its actions are considered as soon as the russian part of the agreement is fulfilled , the russian side will return to the implementation of this transaction to immediately de-factor. such a situation, the grain deal has stopped, as soon as the russian part is completed, the russian side will immediately return to the implementation of this deal. well, it seems to me that the position of, uh, the russian leadership, is stated absolutely

understandable, but in kiev it’s not that they don’t understand it, but they don’t want to accept it. here is what the president, zelensky, said today. we had two agreements, one ukraine turkey un the other russia turkey, so when russia says that it is withdrawing, it terminates its agreements with secretary general onguterius and president erdogan, not with us. we didn't have any agreements with them. i instructed our ministry of foreign affairs, on the official signal of the russian federation, to prepare our official requests from the un and turkey so that they answer me as the president of ukraine that we are ready to continue the initiative even without the russian federation, everything must be done so that this black sea corridor can be used, we were contacted by the company that owns the ships, they said that if ukraine releases turkey from turkey, then everyone is ready to continue and deliveries of grains, then a lot depends on president erdogan. and president erdogan. here he was not silent, like

the film he made a statement that can be interpreted and said so and so that the deal went down in history. and that he will discuss further plans with president putin, and he sterile words. he did not respond to zelensky’s call to continue this whole thing without russia. do you think it’s about russia for sure, but there was an assumption that zelensky would make just such a call? what to do in the current circumstances? i think you understand. last time i said that in my opinion. russia has the ability to effectively and effectively respond to today's terrorist attack on the crimean bridge, where there is such an opportunity to do so. i don't know about the grain deal. personally, i don't know

what opportunities the russian federation has today, well , you need to understand, and in this sense, i understand that emotions are overwhelmed by everything, as they say, they want something like that. e decisive one must understand that we are fighting in general with a colossal force of opponents. this is not alarmism. it has to be understood, really. this is the west. neon west moreover, who managed to create such a mutant as ukraine, where? as they say, we see it in this sense, but we must really look. if we have the opportunity, so it must be done. if not, then, well, you should allow it. just, uh, make your decision, you know, we don't really know what options we have today. i understand that turkey is still very important for us, very important, because turkey first of all controls the bosphorus , firstly, it can open it and ships can

enter the black sea, nato ships can enter, which would not be a better option for us to provoke, to go with uh with the filing of nato for something to close for our wars of ships. and what are we going to do to fight with it is difficult for turkey today in this. situations are flowing through turkey. uh, the flow of goods through turkey is logistics. well, that is, we, unfortunately, today are largely dependent on the turk, this erdogan . of course, he understands all this perfectly, so it depends on how much, if we make some kind of gesture, and we can confirm it should be done. but if we cannot confirm it, then, probably, there is no need to do it, because the best thing is

to confirm it as much as we can. here i repeat again. i'm i think that in relation to the terrorist attack, it would be possible to find a way to seriously punish, as they say. the ones who set it up. you can do it. here i don't know. i have such a form, maybe the leadership has such levers that will allow him to punish seriously. well, with him, the ukrainians, the turks, without us, will begin, as they say, this is to export grain , what will we do, we will attack turkish ships, we can do it, but they are not in the number of turkish ships to play a leading role. uh, take out, uh ukrainian grains. they may try to accompany. well, i mean, they will accompany that we are like this. what are our actions we can inspect them, we can in case they refuse to inspect, we can

resort to some kind of action. here is one action. and i will give you as an example one action that no one talks about, which is absolutely available. and why, and russia was so dissatisfied? how this whole process worked was coordinated, he that was supposed to provide. uh, free shipping not only ukrainian and russian. why it didn't happen no? they just have a collective smell. do you know how little it takes for insurance companies to come to the conclusion that the risk? insuring these ships with

ukrainian grain, that the risk has increased radically and, uh, will require a revision of their contracts and will require. uh, a completely different payment for dmitry, well, on the other hand. agree that given that the insurance companies. these are mainly british companies. the west always has the opportunity to put pressure on them in such a way that they fulfill the conditions that are needed. war is, unfortunately, all insurance companies. these are mainly british companies, because they will surely find leverage to influence them and so that they do not use the word influence in a different sense to influence. of course you can. how about agreeing, uh, for these companies to agree? i think it's

not. no, i think i know, i know, uh, some of these companies. i even know their leadership. e. well, i can say that they are different in that they are in business to make profits and they have a responsibility to their shareholders and e i did not say that they would refuse insurance, but in this regard they can be influenced. but in order to force them, but to accept multibillion dollars, i emphasize many billions in losses. it will be, uh, very, very difficult dmitriy they forced american british companies to lose huge multi-billion dollar losses. here in russia get away from here, and they left they suffered a colossus. lousy losses, but they did. this is during the war. i don't