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mayakovsky for the first soviet play and mystery appears about this, too , i must say that mayakovsky is an amazing playwright mystery buff and mystery god, and found the banner. yes, the theater is the world of chord meyerhold, again the avant-garde is again an alternative, my beloved moscow has found its own theater. i would say, of course, of course, but it is interesting that, for example, mystery boof. enters the stage for the first time in the role of lesser century and ghrelin, which we all, well, many from other films. yes, we know others from soviet films, but it was for the first time that they started talking about him. and after revenge. it seems to me that from the plays you can clearly trace when the twenties end, there it was at first a bug, when the triumph is the twenty-ninth. yes , somewhere in the year, well, the end, yes, the twenties. yes , they already write there yuri olesha write that there was no worst failure times have changed, right?
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you want to say this, the final perception changed, that is, in one time, satires seem to be absolutely there, well, toothy, of course, and a fun holiday. where half are about neighbors, and the other, as it were , everything is fine. you don't perceive it anymore depends. and that's the timing. of course, it depends on the means of expression, because it seems to me that mayakovsky is very difficult to put on stage. now let's get back to the social order and tell us something about ivan kozyrev, yes, uh, about the foundry worker ivan kozyrev, please, let's talk about moving into a new apartment. i am a proletarian to explain myself too much lived, as a mother gave birth. and now my housing cooperative gives me an apartment. here is the width of the height in the ventilated lighted and warmed. everything is fine, but most of all i liked it it was whiter than moonlight
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light is more convenient than the promised land - yes, what to say about it? this is bathroom tap water , extremely cold tap, you can’t touch the other hand. you can wash the crest cold, hot backwater. hold is written on one tap , on the screen in another city you come, you want to hang yourself tired, not soup, not happy with any tea, bubbling, and the seagull will shrug and the dead will burst out laughing from this splashing tickle. as if he had come to visit socialism , he was breathtaking with pleasure, trousers on a hook. blouse on carnations soap in hand and plop you sit down and wash yourself for a long, long time with a word. sit while hunting. it's just that it's summer in the room and the volga is just gone, fish and steamboats. though the dirt on you ten years of experience with you bark. from a tree.
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the soot almost disappears, the bitch is washed away and you’ll get hot, you’ll get fried, then turn the handles and drops. the decline will stroke the hair, it will demand ears and flows, perhaps you would wash your wet body with towels between the shoulder blades into the water, like a furry beast, so that dry heels, the floor will spread. i apologize for the cork expression. myself having seen in the mirror, set in the shirt , i wet the pure power and i think that our soviet power is very correct, beautiful poems, my cat. that's just pleased with everything that appeared new here we see a direct
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detailed description, really a bathroom and a cold screen. this, too, was mayakovsky's dream. for example, the only thing he buys is his apartment in henryk's lane. he deliberately makes redevelopment so that there is a bath and we see, wow, this is a dream that comes true even before he buys renault for border, but this is a little ahead, and now we will mention the very famous moment about the appearance of mayakovsky as the first poet, once boris pasternak in the famous poem dedicated to boris belk. he talked about the fact that the vacancy of the poet was left in vain. it's cool, if not empty, well, that is, the soviet culture has already been built in the thirties. so each area had its own pattern. here in the literature. eh, this vacancy of the poet remained. uh, hmm free for a while. pasternak from her this vacancy, fled to peredelkino, as you know, and mayakovsky had already posthumously received
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this vacancy. yes, it seems to me that this is also his tragedy, because again in this cult, and also pasternak that mayakovsky began to be planted like potatoes under catherine . mayakovsky museum, uh resolution, yes that we are cats, and it was the best, the most talented 35 years later, uh, five years later. after after his death. well, we do not speak out loud about death will we understand that this april. the day everything came together and uh, here is such a tragic silent exhibition of 20 years of work and uh , the relationship with veronica with a vital strip is also like a key phrase, but, which in general for me, for example, explains the whole story of the situation, when in his suicide letter, he writes to me outs. no, he won't write,
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i have no choice. yes, he will write in the plural, because it seems to me that he was looking for these outlets, but for himself he did not find 37 years of death, as many people think and are supposed to be for a russian poet. let's not it is too delicate a topic to focus on this, but both personally and publicly converged here. e. this is a very important point, of course, mayakovsky did 20 years of work, and with great enthusiasm he attracted young people. and this is true for its time, again, and he is the first performance. i think it's actually he acts as an expositionist. very talented, building this exhibition is not just about presenting material , it is about telling stories, but most importantly, he says, touch. take it. yes, it's so unusual. well, that's probably the ideal. literary exhibition. and when you can read , uh, take immersing yourself in the text, and what mayakovsky just did at this
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exhibition, that is, in general, communication with the viewer. it has always been very important for him to write notes, to which he was also devoted, a beautiful collection of them puts them in envelopes according to topics. yes, there, and speeches and uh, there is a completely different image of mayakovsky when you look at these notes at the end of the conversation. i will probably assume that everything, false superficial artificial tendentious eventually gets. yes leaves this infinite living, naked soul appears in the background. talent sincerity and focus on young people who understand mayakovsky and we hope they will understand and in the future, because 130 years is not the limit and the beautiful 22-year-old now mayakovsky is no less among us, the beautiful even more beautiful 130-year-old and we all and marina krasnova and anton buglak and i, dmitry
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bak, are sure that mayakovsky is condemned to a long fate and his image and fate and his picturesque theatrical works and, most importantly, his books in his text, therefore, as always, at the end of our programs, i tell our interlocutors to read with pleasure. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov and i have a special guest today, because he promised a long time ago and made the russian national figure skating team smile mikhail kolyada mish hello. hello. mish how often do you sing a song? show your teddy bear somewhere with a smile. yes, not often, unfortunately, only you, only me, yes, i thought
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that you were just tired. it's not. be sure to pay attention to michael's smile codes. this is what the whole country loves, his entire army of fans. thank you for coming. thank you for inviting me. i've been waiting. yes, and you promised to talk today. yes, to be honest, i’ll tell you right away a little exciting , i’ll reveal the secret that misha came to us not from st. petersburg today, but from lipetsk yes tell me why lipetsk well, because my parents and my wife live there. and now we are visiting them there, my beloved mother-in-law, of course, and what do you do in lipetsk? here recently we rode bicycles and found where they found the kittens, when you imagine in a box near the stop, yes, someone threw it away and my heart breaks. i'm not me, i just couldn't get past. we ended up taking them to the vet yesterday. all checked analyzes there handed over now. in general, they are
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overexposure, so if someone needs kittens, please contact my telegram channel, there is a phone number, it is mandatory. if someone wants to get a wonderful kitten from the hands of our champion mikhail kolyada, save a little life and give himself a little warmth. this is not michael very beautiful. they are very kind in general. well, we already have one. and how many kittens one five? exclusive all one kitten? yes , one still managed to attach. there are five left. well, great. listen, such a kind heart. well, i always knew you were a cool handsome guy. yes mish well , tell me, in general, how your life is going on last season you were not often seen. why is it that i, probably, like any person, have some periods. and now i've come to the conclusion that this is exclusive right now for you for all viewers listeners, i have made
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the decision to take a break. i discussed this with the coach. i discussed this with the choreographer, and we all came to the conclusion that, well, i just need to switch. yes , switch to try something new try to ride in the show, because, well, i was on the leverbuch tour. i really liked it and i liked the inner feeling, how i can reveal myself in some new ways. well, now i’m finally starting to conduct social networks, because my hands still reached this, because it became more time to subscribe. then on to you. subscribe there somewhere will be indicated. well, that's why now is just such a period. we need to think a little about where to go next on what to do next, but this pause is not an announcement of a pause. no, no, this is a pause. and
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last season, you already prepared yourself for this somewhere, so there were missed competitions. that is, we did not see you at all tournaments, but the fact is that i also had a lot of injuries last season. i mean, i missed the competition only because i was injured somewhere, that is, not in my opinion , they wanted something like that. yes. that is, i don’t want everything. i mean they give in. no, that is, it has always been objective. the reason, yes, is in a state of health. yes, but now there is literally hmm maybe a couple of weeks ago. i have come to the conclusion that this need to pause is necessary. i have a question for you, which i have matured observations. and then how do you and ilya averbukham work on your programs, talk a lot and you come up with a lot of ideas of some thoughts on movement throughout. that is, but for the most part, you take the direct part of the productions. well, yes, because we
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live it all together, we digest it and try to give out something that didn’t exist before. in this regard, do you think to try yourself, for example, as an independent director, because, as it seems to me, in the last generations of our single skaters. let no one be offended by me, but the coolest wheeler. this is mikhail kolyada , if you take exactly skating rotation. well you you know, it was you who gave me a very good idea, really, because if i were a single skater, i would like mikhail kolyada to put the program on me, because it seems to me, thank you and this is objective. well, well, because the possession of the skate is your tracks, your rotations. you immediately received them, very good allowances, and not only in russia but also in the world, that is, this is a strong point, but i will think, i will definitely think about it and maybe i will really be able to do something some number . on
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yourself, you have already done it clearly, do it to someone else suddenly to someone else. it seems to me that it should work. it seems to me that nikolayevich can make an offer. we 'll try to do something. why not? you can try, but the honorary prize, you have already found the program received them. so, yes, in principle, you already have recognition. well, small. what does recognition mean to you? it was actually very unexpected, because i kind of sat like this, i think, from someone it came from mironov . so i sat like that, thinking something about my own, well, as usual, in general, yes, and then i hear . he starts to sing a little ad and i'm like, yes, really no, this can't be. but i really sincerely experienced, that is , the whole story, and to be honest, we later talked to the judge, he says, well, as you say, it was the most difficult program in my life. i've never been so tired in my life and never worked so hard. that's just emotional. it
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was very powerful. then i just came to my senses for a couple of days, because, well, it was really hard. well, at my age , i was leaving for a week after such a concept, so far, that a couple of days was enough. mish you liked participation, but you generally support this kind of tournament. uh, here's the idea of the channel one cup jumping championship. i am for everything new. i will say so. i liked everything very much. i liked the organization. i liked the light, i just came there for a rehearsal. first day. just like in a museum. i walked like this i watched everything, my god, how beautiful it is, although it performed a thousand times in this arena. yes, but still it was. it really is like the first time. that yes, that's how it got me. that is, i had such an emotional background that i was just able to give out at the right time. here you need emotions, and then, of course, i already someone has to
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beat yagudin, so we are definitely waiting for you. i can't promise i'll be there myself. still, well, listen , i'll offend, but no, if i fill it for you , i'll be ready. thanks, that's very flattering. of course not, definitely not. if they invite me, i will participate, and i really liked this format. see, you know you're the last of the mohicans world championships russian? in the men's singles, i didn't think about it until this moment, but apparently, so, that is, your bronze. this is the last bronze in men's single skating for russia, or remember, in which year she was 18, there 5 years ago and 5 years ago. no one even came close to your result. when do you think when and who, when can we get close to it? well , taking us beyond the scope of admission to an international
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competition, it’s very difficult to say, really very difficult, because when the world cup was held, i didn’t watch it all, well, so parts and i realized that the level is very serious. and, to be honest, i can’t even guess who and in what year, all the more so. in the foreseeable future , some of the russian agents really will. i think all this is real, because we are all human. we all do beautiful things. sometimes we make mistakes, well , we try to do it beautifully, looking back. here is your transition to alexei nikolaevich mishin , what did he change in you? tell us a little about this part of your career with alexei nikolaevich. how could you get out? here on this new level for yourself. well, it was hard. it was hard, because when you walk on one path for 20 years, trying to go the same way, but on the other path it becomes
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extremely difficult. what were the main differences? yes, probably in everything from how i greet him every morning. and how do i say goodbye to him? setting up the training process there is a daily routine, that is, it’s all somehow, probably, this transition made me grow up myself, or what? that is, i somehow looked at my life in a different way . and you regretted that you did not pass earlier. no i never regret that did never, even if you made a mistake, how can rarely okay or offended a person? here i am always bream, i always regret when i offend someone, honestly, so forgive me, please, honestly sincerely i apologize. if someone is offended by me so cool no thanks. well, i'm really, well, sincerely, mish, let's go back, maybe not at the most pleasant time for you in 2018,
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then not only our common hopes for you, but also your own did not work out at the olympics. let's just say that you psychologically broke down, it was hard for you. tell me a little about this year. about the eighteenth world cup still did not work. i agree with you, because apparently, well, i know what was missing. i just don't want to talk, but i didn't analyze enough, of course, 5 years have passed. i'm already looking at this completely different even to hint at what happened, maybe, in general terms, let's start with the commander, that is, my performance, in principle, it is there, and did not decide the role. we would still become silver medalists from the cat. i'm perfect, we'd still be silver medalists. all this was closed. and what as for individual competitions, it was possible to perform at one maximum two places higher. that is objectively objectively, that is
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, i just wasn't ready like that. so i admit it psychologically and psychologically and physically, because it is very hard to skate. well, in fact, four programs a week. it's not like a show program. so i performed at the russian challenge one such program, and here there are four of them in a week, but it seems to me, after all, it was possible to prepare specially. you understand it wasn't enough. that is when i'm not with it encountered, just watched on tv, i think people give. this is the same, this is such a level, this is impossible. then when i got there, i realized that it was very difficult. but when i got there, i came from there, i realized that i myself am to blame for my troubles . i don't know. the first channel cup from the olympic games
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is nothing the program of selling ice is the same skates are also all the costume is the same. it's hard to do everything here. she will buy the first channel easier. i have never performed on channel one, so it's hard for me to compare. unfortunately, it’s hard, by the way, but it’s kaifovo in its own way, but you know, uh, what i don’t like is how the athletes perform at the channel one cup, that what concerns this tournament, the athletes are in no way competition. i do not feel like not preparing for it come very poor physical condition technical condition. that is, even though i still don’t even know how to call my role. well, there's a support group. yes, there is one of the teams, usually the blue team, the losing team has been coming to me for 3 years in a row, guys. i just saw them at the russian championship where they take prizes, quadruple jumps fairy a-a
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they come to the first channel cup and jump doubles, they can skate with three double jumps in the short program. that's why i don't like it. it seems to me that attitudes need to be changed for this tournament with pepper. need to get ready. and next year i will reveal a little secret. mish, come on, this tournament will be reformatted precisely for this reason. yeah, it won't change much. well, you will tell me later what will happen there. maybe just your pause is over, and you're still buying, i don't know, we'll see. lotos transmits a client with a load of opium on the first soviet militant man overboard on the left on a full course back in terms of the number of spectators.
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and we are back again. this is a podcast, a free program. i'm maxim trenkov and my guest is a wonderful russian singles champion mikhail kolyada, so lambel told me. uh, what, i'm constantly running somewhere. that is, apparently my character is laid down by the fact that i am constantly late for something. i constantly do not finish something after working. uh, that's weaker or there with raf. so i relaxed a little, and
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at the same time, productivity did not fall. i think wow, well, maybe, maybe, so go back to the question of what has changed. uh, when i came to nikolaevich, i probably just relaxed a little. that is, he threw himself some unnecessary anxiety. i realized that i just need to work and that's it. and what was the anxiety responsibility that you this one made me run, as stefan said , it’s hard to say, maybe he just grew up. it might have started. maybe, yes, maybe it was worth it. before, maybe i would have grown up earlier. how to develop. philosophical question, yes difficult question. and you really don't know how to do it right. you can understand, this is only after you have done or not done something, of course, it would be
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great. if someone whispered there, then what is there yes, do it, it will definitely work out , or there, for example, you use such a technique or such a system will definitely shoot in the eighteenth year after a short program in a team tournament. i know that the press scolded you very much and someone in the team was also unhappy. uh, and expressed directly some of his unpleasant things. even from other sports who supported you at that moment. that's most of all who hmm who could you call to speak out, or maybe right in the olympic village was a person who yes? we lived in a room with this man, this is dima slavyov, oddly enough his morozov is we all lived together and thank you guys a lot, because i oh well, if it weren't for them it would probably be worse, that is, yes, they really supported me very much and really, i'm
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very grateful. well, it's all the guys, who skated in the team tournament? yes, you represent. not everyone is evil, it turns out. it seems to me that this may be the strength of our team somewhere, that we can compete with each other as much as we like, not be friends, but in some difficult moments. uh, we are always a team we are always such a fist, no perhaps yes, because really, when there is team support, it's generally something. this is different. that's why, by the way, i like the channel one cup is that when you skate you sit there in the stands your team. and this, of course, in general, these are different sensations, therefore, in a way, i envy you that you are not skating alone in a pair, well, you were skating. when you go out, and you understand that you are not alone on the ice. i would be
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interested in trying. perhaps this somehow adds responsibility, but at the same time , you seem to become more confident due to this. himself probably, so mish here i am now i am grateful to you that you always unequivocally answered my blitz interviews, because now such a frank conversation probably would not have happened, because i always knew that i did not know such a thing. i thought that you weren’t such a lone ice wolf at all, who was in the locker room at all, sitting there inflated and like a beech and did not communicate with anyone. and in general, and you, it turns out, are such a team player. well, you understand, this is also a certain mask. that is, when they understood me, well, i’m telling you now in a calm atmosphere, that is, not in the locker room, when i i'm sitting here puffed up, right? because yes , it is really very important for me that we have such a kind. the team spirit is precisely here in the entire team, and our team is very good , very strong, friendly, however, that is,
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no matter what happens. i'm sure everyone will understand. you are from a large family, right? yes , tell a little about the family, mom, dad, brothers, what your sister does. how many of you are four of us? yes, you are the eldest, yes, who is your younger sister, who is 2 years younger. that is, we will be like steps down. yes, a brother, and even a younger sister , and you are engaged in figure skating, only you, yes, and no one else has ever tried to do this business and seeing how cool their older brother is skating. well, by the way, i don’t know why they left it, but , apparently, my parents thought that one skater in the family would be enough for us, because, well, it’s very hard when it’s there in the morning, well, you’re also a skolpin , right? no there is. peter is such a mistake. and why does everyone say that well, because i lived there for some time, and that is you just lived in kolpino but you just moved. well, you went to practice. yes
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, i went, i went for 3.5 years. that is, not all the time i grew up and was born in st. petersburg, all the time i was born. in st. petersburg, they are in this there some like fedor klimanov. and who brought you to the skating rink, in general, how did you turn out to be brought to the figures. just on the anniversary yes, on the anniversary there i was in kindergarten . usually parents come late in the evening. and then my mother comes, there was no dinner yet. mom has already arrived. i think what happened. all she got me lucky somewhere i think. well, okay, then a memory failure. that there is this moment do you remember? yes, i remember, then it means you were years old. i was 5 years old then it means a flash. i’m already on skates, everything is in some kind of balloon suit and then i remember the first competition. i don’t know how it is, the fourth last. and how did your mother even understand that you have the future of a cool singles skater. you didn't
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talk to your mom about this. why did mom say? why didn't you give me to zenith? i almost left football, but i was then 10-11 years old, probably, and that is, you went straight to the section. yes, i studied there, not far from the jubilee school is no longer there, of course, but now the boris eifon theater is in its place. what school is this 91? i also studied there, but it seems to me that everyone studied there. zhenya plushnika and i are in the same class very well. well, you see how he studied, well, of course, well, he studied anyway. i was listed yes, and i really like it there, petrogradka, in principle, in general, as if the area is so cool. yes , somehow, i either skipped school there, or i don’t remember training. in general, i wandered into some kind of yard. and there is some guy. well, somehow i got to know him. all, he was there with the ball. he says let's go. i'm training now. well, i'm always in sneakers, as if i walked everything, well, we went to training, the coach looked at me like that , shouted, cool, everything fits. let's go over there, roughly speaking, we have training there on monday, wednesday, friday. i am
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like that. yes, all is well. see you at home looking for you. mom, i say, i want everything in football and she is so something strange. well, okay, in general, the next day. i picked up things from the anniversary and said to everyone goodbye and that's it, and there i went there a couple of times and then, why are you again got on the rink. pulled. well, i don’t know whether they somehow forced me, or threatened me, i don’t remember, and now i would sit on the bench somewhere in voronezh, i would receive a couple of hundred thousand euros a month. what did i change for? yeah well, how about what? she is beautiful. you about me would be me, to be honest, i never regret that i stayed in figure skating, because because you never regret anything, i have already found out. well, yes, what has been done, yes, well, i try, as it were, to build on what is here and now, but there is something j what do you regret? what didn't you do figure skating. for now, because as soon as we paused, the quad jumped
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axel damn, i always thought that you would do i have a video of one in fourteen, right? yes, probably because i would really like to jump. well, at least for this you will have to reanimate, at least for the show tournament, your career in the jumping tournament. you can not train programs at all, only jumps. you know, in fact, i think it's better to train the program than just jumping. why do i still have joints they don’t always stand up anymore, that is, you jump over everything a little, as if you feel that you need to slow down, what else terskaya i don’t even know, mish, when you came to the group, when nikolaevich mishin there were already a lot of young and hot single skaters. and you seem to be, as it were, a veteran, but at the same time a newcomer to the group, how did you put yourself in your way without asking. well, how did i have to catch up to catch up? yes? this is the same champion of russia as and
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what's the difference, what would have been, i went out of shape. i'm not the champion of russia, i am. well, that's it when was it? i had to redo everything . and how did the guys react to the fact, well, to you in the group with whom you can be friends before or not? in general, i have normal relations with all the guys, and somehow we immediately established contact. that is, well, that is, you understand that i am not a conflict person, and how would i find contacts with people, well, quite simply, that is, there was no such thing that you supported the boss and said everything nikolaevich this infuriates me, take him away to another no. we, on the contrary, somehow had such a healthy competition, right, but about coaching career you never thought about. well, i thought about it, but i think it’s still too early, but it’s just that now you have such a chance, for example, with alexei nikolayevich mishin, let’s say you become an assistant to learn a lot from him with coaches, because i’m a very big difference when we are athletes you think? yes, i had coaches, i
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can use it. i just worked there under someone, let's say. so. i didn’t know so much for him, of course, but only, look, i think that memory is such property. if you don't use it, you forget it. uh-huh, if i’m allowed now, well, i’m very rude, but i’ll grab the experience, i’ll be there, you know, well, you won’t get out a lot later, and now it’s like working as a coach for me, but it’s not interesting yet, yes, it’s not interesting yet. but when it will be interesting, when it will be relevant for me personally. naturally, i will look for information there and consult with senior comrades there, well, and so on. that is, of course, when i think that a dinner spoon is good, but still listen, you have a family now. yes, i don’t climb there, i don’t know if you are planning little carols. cool by the way, it sounds here, especially since from a large family. you have experience. uh, raising kids. you are
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the older brother. here. eh, well, i didn't try anything. i'm just saying that you still have a family now. yes there, maybe the foreseeable future. she will get bigger. maybe, but you need to earn money, but something for bread, but blogging is doing this now, so i ’m just looking for myself in search your business. or maybe not a single one. this is most likely, because you are a creative person of creative people. usually there there it is on its own. well, yes, yes. and we are back again. this is a podcast, a free program. i am maxim tarankov, and my guest is a wonderful russian singles champion mikhail kolyada and your wife is she what does she do aerial gymnastics now on canvases on swamps hmm but that is , she does this in order to participate in the show or for herself. well, it all started like for myself, that is, i will try myself in something new.
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