your boundaries, yes, it is important for you to distance yourself, it is important for you now to take responsibility for what you can take? well, for example, work is your activity, your creativity is your health there, if you want to do business conditionally. yes, but you understand, this is my responsibility and i will never give it to anyone, then it will become a support for you. in any relationship when you build a bridge based on another person, you are doomed to failure, because no one on the other side is going to hold anything. and so he always from myself to myself, just from myself today to myself in a year, suppose. for me , this story is probably a little more about allowing, or something, perhaps, it is worth allowing yourself to take your place in property.

i just eat it is very important. i will train. this is correct. thank you very much for leaving. here is how you evaluate these few minutes of our conversation for yourself. thanks for dedicating this area that i hadn't thought about at all. i thought the reason was in another, or in me, that i was not either in it, but it turns out that i ran it with from oneself to oneself. may i ask you at the end? oh, what kind of relationship would you like, would you like a relationship, what kind of relationship would you like , after all, mutual understanding for us, and here hmm

support each other communication complement each other in some way. i wanted to train in order to be trained in order to want. it's true, it's true, what does the ideal man look like, in your opinion, here is your man who will be ideal for you. a woman is usually a long list. i can shorten it, he says, the ideal man does not drink, does not smoke, and does not exist. remove let's what kind of man is this in your opinion. true

purposeful, so that he has self-realization, his beloved girl, yes , self-realized, so that he is interesting. love beauty care will you be interesting? what will you do to be interesting to such a man? see not with him, but separately from him, i really like traveling to know the world, discover some new cultures, find out what people are interested in, what the world lives in. that is, we are all so different cultures of art. it is very educative and expands the outlook of the self.

i wanted to ask, by the way, in what language did you communicate with that person? english and a little arabic, you know english, yes, i learned arabic, i can understand something, what they say, well, to say words, after all, it is quite difficult. yes, such a language barrier is difficult to clarify relationships for the manifestation of feelings of emotion. yes, it was very difficult with emotions. that is, something to prove some kind of emotional point of view is coming. here, as if that's how it was and what you did then okay, everything is simpler, it was very difficult say in russian sometimes yes it is difficult to explain to a person so that he understands what you are feeling, and when it is in english or there

is english-arabic, it is a billion times harder, of course, and this is just, as you know, such a basic the problem of almost all seven different ones. on the one hand, this makes a family. uh, it's easier because people think, well, it's better to remain silent than to make a fuss. yes, because otherwise it will cause. yes, and important, but at the same time, it often just leads to the fact that we suppress our own emotions, which well, they are actually heading inward, but they are aggressive and destroy us and it’s just how important it is if you build relationships in the future with a mexican who will speak, respectively, uh in spanish, then i don’t know how to learn it well first spanish is qualitative, but at the same time , you know everything, huh? you are talking now, and i just have such a recommendation for you, in

fact, you can continue to study the arabic language and arabic culture in order to understand all the beauty and historicity and the fundamental nature of these laws, and do not evaluate them following the example of that fool who took the wrong ones and it’s completely wrong up to you, but it will definitely make you very interesting. great, thank you. thank you. may i ask the last question now? let's, and so i really count on an honest answer. how are you? you think, you feel, but such as it is, but it is possible to love. i think i'm such a nasty character. and what are you, but it seems to me that there is still such a person who can. walk what will you do do you have any plan, how will you be?

deal with it first bingo and become interesting to yourself only in this way you can become interesting to another person. thank you thank you very much, olga thank you for such an honest conversation. it was a trigger podcast, and we were with you sergey on ourselves at tatyana krasnovskaya psychology and today we analyzed olga's story and her problems. hello, i'm pilot cosmonaut anton shlyaprov , this is a podcast of space stories. today i am visiting. anna tocheva, employee of the center cosmonaut training specialist in

space nutrition anna you have been working at the cosmonaut training center for a long time. you are an experienced employee. tell me what you've been doing there, well, the last 3 years. my job is to train cosmonauts and astronauts in life support systems for the russian segment. the iss actually, my laboratory is engaged in training on these systems. these systems include systems. oxygen supply of the system. purification, atmosphere, input systems provide. also systems for food supply, including here, in fact, we train cosmonauts and astronauts how to use these system systems on board the russian segment, and how to properly maintain them. and what kind of people got into the space industry. uh, it was a childhood dream, or somehow by accident. it worked out. i think i had no choice, because i was already born in star city, when there was a military unit . my dad, being a lieutenant, came to star city. and actually, i was already

born in the star city and graduated from high school named after pilot cosmonaut vladimir mikhailovich komarov therefore, i think that one way or another my whole life since birth. she led me into this industry. well, in fact, i ended up in the astronaut training center, that is, from the school bench i was already prepared to work simply in space, well, practically. yes, you can say that. well, let's talk about the most pleasant things that astronauts know - this is about space food on earth. and i often get asked this. uh, like astronauts and do they even eat from tubes, do they really eat? well, to be more precise, the first astronauts ate, they really received food, packed in a form. only not tubes looked. this is about all right. we speak professional language. it's some kind of toothpaste. these are tubes of food. yes, well , that's actually how these stupid ones look. now here. that is, after all, yes, they still exist, and at the moment, there is mustard, honey, seasonings, only we have such things now in these tubes, and at the dawn of astronautics. actually, starting with yuri

alekseevich gagarin, but really the astronaut was eaten from the soup. well, for the simple reason that at first it was not clear how the digestive organs would work under weightlessness, how they would absorb useful trace elements from food. that's why, in fact, we need food in the first place, so it was decided that it was necessary to operate food so that it would pass through the organs of the digestive system much easier. and here they were convenient because it is a fairly light package. and most importantly, twisting the cabinet, you can not eat it to the end, you can conditionally close it, twist it and put it aside and then, and start the process of eating food again, that is, in this regard, in all respects, well, it would be really very convenient, but the first astronauts still. the trailer is what they sent in tubes, and there was just borscht and perforated meat . here, well, at first it was all cold, and only at the unions did the first

food heaters appear, so that panavto had the opportunity to consume already hot food, that the unions would already have heaters. yes, on union nine appeared. the first heater writes. that is, well, they ate a chair. yes, they were mostly. these were tubes, then in the process , little by little. already the packaging of space food began to evolve and, in fact, what we have come to now. this is almost a complete rejection of stupidity. like i said, just mustard, honey and all sorts of spices. now. basically, main courses starters some desserts. the astronauts have it in this form of a tin can. they are of different types. here we have a large tin can, well, there are few 250 g there are small jars of 100 g each, and now new ones have appeared. anton would probably not have found them yet. slightly thinner jars in which canned fish are stored. well, although, maybe already yes, well, in fact, so that just such a jar can be eaten. yes, of course, you can open it enough. everything is ready there. nothing to cook.

you don’t have to open it and eat it with a fork, but still, if this is some kind of meat product, the second course, then , of course, it’s more pleasant - it’s eaten hot, so cosmonauts on the star module the service module has a special chair for eating, in which electric heaters are installed ; five jars of things are inserted into this electric heater, they fit in there. well, the cover of the electric heater is closed, the button is clamped in half an hour. uh, the contents of the jar will warm up to 65°, and now it's ready to eat, and hot and tasty in addition. this is about cans. and space bread is inserted into the electric food warmer. it's also quite popular. and what is interesting about this bread. eh, what, uh, this is how it looks like. it looks like these chocolates, which are divided into squares according to the same principle

. a crumb that flies away in weightlessness can get into the respiratory tract. can get into the eye of anything pleasant. no , god forbid it will be painfully unpleasant, therefore , in fact, he is trying to get rid of the crumbs at the station yes and minimize the amount of garbage that flies around the astronauts or to also warm up. well, i think that any housewife on earth knows if the bread was lying yesterday, put it in the microwave for 10 seconds. it will become soft fluffy. here, the same principle is also installed in the electric heater, four things, bread, heated together with the banks. and it turns out such a delicious, soft bread, moreover, bread, there are different cases of eating something ordinary. yes, there are boro and bread, in fact, they really like to fight, a lot. yes, a lot of different types of bread in depending on what kind of bread. actually , the astronaut prefers such bread and puts it in the same video, very tasty honey

cakes, our astronauts also praise. it's like a dessert here. well, that's one part of the food types. and another cluster. now occupies just what has come to replace. here are the pipes. this is sublimated food. here in such a form, that is, now there are some second soups. dishes salads are all here in this form, this is how it turns out. we have kharcho soup here, and the views are takogo rather strong cracker, but in fact , here is a real kharcho soup. uh, such sublimates are being prepared at the biryulyovo experimental plant, well, the plant that makes space here in our suburbs outside the moscow ring road yes, that’s right, and this plant has a separate line for the production of space food. what is actually unique about these products. well, if so, uh, in short, they stand, the cook's aunts cook large vats of that same borscht or soup, then kharcho, this soup is already completely ready

, frozen, sent to a vacuum chamber and warms up slowly. thus . we have water from a solid state from a state of ice. immediately passes into the gaseous bypassing the liquid phase. and it turns out that droplets of water. here, water molecules leave every pore of the product absolutely every and further. all this is packaged in briquettes and in vacuum packaging , the advantage of such packaging is that we have two batteries here, there is no access to oxygen in the product, there is absolutely no water, there is absolutely nothing to spoil. and in this form there is an expiration date. yes, now about let's talk about this. yes? i mean, it will be stored in this form. in fact , many many years, but the expiration date, yes, as you pointed out, it is indicated on each product, but this is the expiration date for delivery on board, and, as it were, pref. it is positive that this product has time to eat this nineteenth year on board. ay, when the expiration date comes out, here it is, uh, it can

be stored for 2 years and the expiration date has expired in the nineteenth year, right? brought delay. well, i hope we won't get to the point of eating today, although it's not evening yet. i mean what else a big plus is that this package becomes lighter. yes, i just wanted to say by this, what is the advantage? yes, not only does nothing get here that could spoil the product, but this package is much lighter in weight by weight than the same lips and volume . very important. yes, well, and in fact, so that the astronaut can use this kharcho soup, do not gnaw it in the form of a cracker. uh, eat it like soup. as we are used to. uh, the packaging has a special two- end special places. so from this the end of the package, and the astronauts are cut along the colored line. and with this dovetail, it is pulled onto the fitting of a special system on the block e, distribution and

heating, from which water will flow, and each package is written. how much water exactly does this product need in order for it to recover and become the consistency that, as a result , cooks' animals, yes, but basically, when we season soups, of course, i want to fill it with hot water. i think it says on the package. how long does it take for this product will stop. in this case , 15 minutes will be enough for us and our soup will be ready to cook. mm. we still keep such a boot warm clothes. yes, yes ducklings after we fill it, we still put it there, to make it go even longer, which feeds longer, because if meat is present, it absorbs water very poorly and becomes hard, so we still don’t even have cooks there, but we we ourselves , like space cooks, are lingering about what happened, of course, no one will tell. here. well, if we're talking about the first course, it's in order to

consume the soup from this package, it does not need to be poured into a glass. we just turn the package over with the other end and here, if you make an incision, the tube will come out and it is very convenient to use this product. here in this form. that's how i said, there are soups, main courses. there will no longer be this tube at the end, that is, after refueling after restoration, it will be necessary to cut it and, in fact, it is conveniently quite convenient. eating with a spoon or squeezing you out. here, as for drinks, there are also drinks in sublimated form. these are jelly juices, and the milk is freeze-dried. but if we are talking about coffee tea, then in this form , packaged tea bags. yes, an absolutely ordinary bag for everyone familiar with a tea bag. if this is part of the sugar, then there will still be this one. here's a spoonful of sugar. why pack a sachet? well, here's how they came up with it. yes, very tasty indeed. cocoa. well , cosmonauts i tried not so long ago insanely delicious cocoa, which is natural.

basically one packet, but two hits, yes , two hits. yes thank god tea drinks are just enough, on the contrary, there is a lot of food and yes, we have a margin. that is, even if, god forbid, a truck does not come, but i think we will still live for three months on those stocks that you have specially delivered food with a supply, plus the food that is delivered with each truck in the form of fresh vegetables and fruits. yes, these are bonuses. although, we have bonus containers. and uh. these are containers. hmm bonus. we still call foreign food, that is, this is what we chose after trying the food. uh, we used to be able to take half the food of us from russia somehow here, mixing this for six months. it was normal now. uh, we just have bonus containers. that is, you can expedition. i don't know, two three four. i've

been cooking recently. astronaut flight, they also complain that they are now given very little russian food. so i guess if it's on both sides, well anyway, we have an exchange. uh. i know for sure our colleagues love cottage cheese very much. here we were talking about bread, for example, black borodinsky and the guys are happy to ask. well, what to change and brings what you like from uh uh ration of american cuisine and we exchange quietly, but most of all we eat joint food when we get together on friday and saturday, either on the russian segment or on the american one. that is, if they come to visit us, we clog two heaters there, yes, that is, we clog everything with cans and cook. well, sometimes you ask what you prefer about her. e from russian food. that is, we are preparing it, we invite everyone to visit. here everyone gathers around the table, discussing the news. uh, well, just passed week and we consume russian the next

day on saturday, according to tradition, we in the american segment for us, they are already trying to prepare something tasty from the american diet of sweets. which ones did you like the most there? oh well, i'm not interested in sweets at all. i don’t like them, so i didn’t care what they had or what we had, i was always distributed to everyone not in space. yes, although the support group is trying to convey to us. i don't know, some sweets, chocolates, sweets. mm, marshmallows, our colleagues in america are very fond of marshmallows. and he, it turns out that it’s very tasty, many astronauts said that if they don’t eat sweets on earth, well, in principle, they are somehow indifferent, then upstairs on the iss they really want sweets, apparently, the receptors still require some new sensations, so i'm interested. okay, we discussed our food. yes, everything you see. yes? well, you can still just, if it's about sweets. yes, yes, and fruit sticks. i am pilot-cosmonaut anton

shkaplerov. this is a podcast of space stories, we continue the conversation with anna dot about space nutrition. how are you doing with american food? it's the same type in general , the packaging and cooking methods are the same, but of course american food. she prefers the food that americans eat at home. hmm. that is, for example, barbecue sauce, as far as i understand, there is enough of this in use. for example, we don’t have it on board, and somehow they don’t use it. well, yes, from pieces of meat, straight steaks. they say, yes , there really are soaked ones and there are other sauces with this barbecue sauce. well, i prefer not this sweet barbecue. a where the more spicy food is the more gibbous of mexican food. and so in general, the trends are the same as ours in terms of packaging. at least, in terms of production, almost everything is the same, also a canned water dispenser.

yes, i remember my first times, when they seemed to show on the ground, it’s not difficult in weightlessness, there is difficulty, you can’t hold on with your hand and you have to hold the bag with one hand to open the valve with the other and only hold on with your feet, having the experience of holding on to the handrails you slip off uh, go on and pour hot water and everything. it spilled, well, over time yes , they learned, uh, to hide banks. after that , it must be made flat, so that it reduces the volume during disposal, so that the volume that remains after our life activity is as small as possible. well, like any garbage, we try to minimize it, and it is always very important to eat everything from the can to the end, because and if suddenly it starts to deteriorate and extinguish, after all, it’s garbage, there is no half a year to lie on the progression of the house from the docking of progress actually, we also teach this astronaut. we are trying to pass on to them the experience of senior colleagues as young cosmonauts who are just about to embark on their journey. this is actually what we are doing.

and we are just telling them how it is possible to exchange all this at the station, because, well, i ’m definitely doing this all the time to order one thing on the ground, but it doesn’t come in sufficient quantities, but i know the preference of the crew, for example, here or there with an italian. you yourself baptize freud, and for her i remember exactly borodino bread, for the sake of borodino bread. she can give everything she has. here is don petit. uh, by the way, who is going to fly again. yes, now training is taking place in star city. i flew with him from he was a lover of cottage cheese. moreover, he previously exchanged for any piece of meat, what i always preferred. eh, i collected cottage cheese without any problems. he didn't just cook. he also put it in the refrigerator in the evening to eat it colder in the morning. that is, he is such a real gourmet in this case, therefore, yes , he told me how he once cleaned the toilet for me in turn behind the shutter. so yes,

they have their bikes too. they also sometimes share us. you know, so delicious. what else could people do for food? yes, well, as i understand it, already a lot of crews were distinguished by the fact that they cooked their own food on board. so i heard pizza, cooked on board, rolls were twisted. yes, and in my opinion, just this year they made an easter cake from cookies, and for sure. yes, for some reason there is a myth that canned food is oversalted. well, they are really quite salty, if you eat a lot of canned food, this is how much for testing they were usually a normal taste of testing. try literally positives here a little bit, if no one is watching. yes , i don’t think it’s some kind of myth that they are oversalted. no they are ok. here are our colleagues, they are not all salty. that's why we don't have salt. we don’t have a salt ration, we don’t have it separately, but there are americans, yes, but

they still keep the target solution on board. there is always this around her, really. this is a salty liquid, because you can’t pour it, so you also soak american food, which you think tastes bad if you add salt, and also take some seasoning, spicy for a sweet soul , so e, i would not say that they are oversalted. i know for sure that airplanes are food. yes, here it is oversalted, because it is believed that the taste is at low pressure. and when the plane is gaining altitude, there are 10-12.000 m, they fall and, in order for the food to remain skillful, it passes over and any product is sweet. well, here's a dessert, it's sweeter, than on earth we have, first of all, we're fighting. we are for proper nutrition, we have nothing oversalted and, uh, super-sweet will not come to me very often excursions. in addition to my main activities, i also conduct excursions. so far, it’s also just about nutrition. and a lot of people just conditionally

complain from the street that something is really very salty, very fatty. give me some water. so there is still a trend. it seems to me that it does. it depends on a person, but why did i ask about sweets, because after all, most astronauts have a changing taste and that’s what they tried and chose for testing here on earth, after all , something seems to them there, it’s not so tasty anymore , how it turned out. here, i have a different opinion, the taste does not change, the food becomes boring. we know that we have a 16 daily diet. that is, say that from the day. we open new three was four containers depending on the program , and the same set of products have a special prompt. uh, in every container. well, what is here today for the first tomorrow for the second? and so on. hmm. well, i don't know what she was sticking to. usually you open it. here's what you want. so eat plus we have enough. uh, very high-calorie food with

a calculation of more than 3,000 there is 3,200. if taken from bonuses with all, yes, but so about 3.000. that's 16, the daily diet. well, i don't think so. what exactly 3,000 calories is necessary for astronauts on a typical day without going to open mowers and so on. well, in any case , doctors are trying to monitor health. by the way, what is good about this whole food you don’t have any preservatives e-additives, then what we are not used to doing here, maximum. these are salts, citric acid. so your health. we are very protective. and it is known why we have a 16 daily diet not eight and ten, the less often you you will get containers, the more variety you will have before there was a six-day diet, then increased each time. i think, uh, the more days on the ration, the less often you will hide the containers. so it seems to me that just because it seems like 16 days all the time. we put again the same containers with the same idea, then the food does not change.

i think she just overeat, having experience. after the first flight already, when i was going to the second, except for the things that you can imagine take, but there is a kilogram, if here is a truck , then the family, maybe 5 kg of things you put a set. well who are allowed here, well i try it. well, as much as possible it was food, and the food is ordinary to my wife. you want a department store. here's a big one. yes, there are seasonings. here, take everything one by one and that’s it, we’ll definitely upload it to us . everything is the person who likes this particular seasoning, if the product is already boring and doesn’t really want it, if you add a certain seasoning there, he changes the taste and eats everything normally, and a truck came to me, literally before landing somewhere in a couple of weeks. i understand that i do not need how many seasonings. i just asked for ordinary juice , which does not need to be diluted, which we drink like we do on earth, well , some good company, where there are just no these additives, and i received a volley of 5 kg 5 liters. bitch, with such pleasure. they drank. for half a year i forgot how you can drink ordinary juice. or maybe you heard something else

so interesting that the close cosmonauts were passed on board. from food yes, well about interesting, i don't remember now. basically. this is marshmallow candy, is it possible? yes, if that is, we have one problem in the progress cargo ship, there is no refrigerator, therefore , if you bring sausage that does not need to be stored in the refrigerator, they can miss it and there are such hunting sausages, the support group transfers sausages, then the astronauts. they just hide it all from the cameras so that we don’t see it on the videos that they send us, officially everything, that’s for sure. it's like with caviar, yes, it doesn't deliver red caviar to us, because the red caviar should be stored in the refrigerator, and the black mouth, please, on new year's eve, that with pleasure so much black caviar, of course, on earth. not how many villages in space, and i still come across international crews all the time, foreigners. they don’t eat at all, that is, they don’t consider black caviar as

a delicacy as a product, and that’s why i am like that. well, the boys will not be fine. no, well, everything, as i would suggest once. carefully, but heard about the products that astronauts ask for first, what to sit down after landing specifically. that's what i heard about apples. now i don’t remember which of the astronauts, but he wanted green apples, and all day long there were special green apples for him, and he was right there on landing. here in this, here in a plaid, sitting, i ate crunchy with this apple. so i'll tell you exactly how it happens until recently. e, the head of the otspck, was at the landing site. uh , sergey georgievich malikov, so he is always here 2 days before landing, already, being in kazakhstan, he contacted the crew , he was supposed to work and, uh, reminded him of the actions after opening the parachute after landing. well, how will he keep in touch with him, because , uh, the connections are already there when we are on earth , before they got us. well, just

a reminder of how it will happen. and now he asks the crew all the time what would you like, that's just the first thing. well, honestly, i never asked her for apples. i remember exactly, i wanted cherries, he found cherries, the doctors started not letting him in, then they forced him to tear a stalk from each berry. i remember they brought me such a plate. i really wanted to eat cherries. i made it. well, not i know the tricks, 5-7 to eat, then they took her away somewhere, they began to measure the pressure, then, when i asked him, they said not everything, enough is enough for you, in short, then the girls. uh, the nurses who accompanied me in the helicopter. they honestly admit. they ate it themselves. interesting, everyone wants it. yes, and extremely i remember, in my opinion, he asked for an orange. well , i remember roma a little, when they asked him what you want, he said, yes, nothing from food, and he landed in the winter there was snow. he says, i want green grass. so sergey georgievich was not too lazy and went to

the shop as a builder and bought this piece of artificial grass. i know a meter by two and when they put him on a chair at the ground. he shot in front of him. he says you asked, please, for you grass at the house, right? i am pilot-cosmonaut anton shkapperov. this is a space stories podcast, we are still talking about space food with anna tocheva. and if the products that are prohibited are difficult to say, they are banned right now. yes, we talked about the fact that it is impossible to store products that cannot be stored in the absence of a refrigerator. well, we are astronauts we definitely teach how to determine whether a product is usable or not, that is, if a can is swollen, if traces of corrosion appear somewhere, if you feel that the taste of food from a can has changed, then, accordingly, it is better not to use it or as for sublimates . if the packaging is suddenly torn somewhere, the packaging has deteriorated, then, accordingly, they don’t eat such food, and everything else is just what is allowed on the ground, which has already

been allowed on the ground, then it will already be possible on board, but now up to that deliver sauces of such an industrial production, they were just talking about new banks. this is industrial production. this is no longer biryulyovo doing. this was what the astrakhan michurinsky plant does, and they do the same in michurinsky, but, in my opinion, they are not fish. they make very tasty food. they made something out of vegetables, very tasty. they also have such packaging up to pickles. hot pepper. they also have enough. yes, we are really moving smoothly, well , industrial products are delivered to us. that is , those that are usually sold in a store or site, as far as i know should be. well, they buy this famous company, they directly check the batch there. all if one, then it delivers and the packaging is suitable for m-m overloads. it's actually very difficult there. seriously, and it's not so easy to get there. well, by the way, these packages are

the so-called spiders. here is the michurinsky plant, just in them it is, as it were, such a new word in packaging. we are waiting for a gradual transition from these heavy cans. just here on these foil sticks, just for that, to reduce the volume mass weight for delivery on board as a whole, it seems that the same amount is stored and the volume. the circus is occupied in terms of the masses . no, it's all thanks to our colleagues. we can eat ice cream because the ship, uh, there's a dragon in the fridge. and when he comes, enough ice cream comes and they are like our friends after all . space brothers and sisters here on weekends when we get together. if there is still, they will definitely take it themselves and share it themselves, so uh, here we also don’t forget the taste of ice cream, i’ll give her some ice cream on earth, but there i remember exactly what i really wanted to do not know why. maybe because there is so little of this cold food, and somehow i removed the ice cream. i don’t know, i’m thirsty, well, in general

, the usual one at the station is a little hotter than i wanted, so i want ice cream. well, i know for sure that alcohol is prohibited. and since we were talking about chocolate. here is the last flight. the family gave me a box of chocolates for the new year and it was directly written there. there was a whole package to open, there are three from december 1 , december thirty-first. i opened the package saw chocolate. i myself thought, maybe my wife passed it on to my colleagues to treat them, but then, when we contacted her, literally there a few hours before the new year. she says, well, in principle, you still have a bonus today. we gave you sweets, each containing some kind of alcohol. i don't know why they missed it. well, maybe they did. it seems to me that there the cosmonauts met the new year with alcohol. even though it was a small candy, there was not a couple of drops of alcohol, but it was, well, it's still nice. i do not know more, of course, morally. so

somehow here you are there, there was just a video conference and the family was sitting at the table with our relatives. they celebrated the new year at our house, eh. with a glass of champagne to me with these glasses of chocolate. in principle, it was nice, it was like that in general, chocolate is delivered without problems, of course, well, chocolate is stored for a long time. she you yourself have tried space. yes of course, how do you do it? where do you take it from? this one is overdue, right? no, of course, not overdue, well, food rations are specially delivered to us in order for us to train cosmonauts for examination training. we are practically classes and astronauts. not to eat, of course. no, that's right, but warm up food. how do you define a food product? yes, that's about that block, the heating distribution block, which supplies sublimates to the water. this is not just a block, not just a kettle with hot water. it's a whole system. yes, there is already confused or

forget to close. yes, yes, then such a bubble of hot water, where to put it, that's why anyway, we're trying to pass on this skill. e to new astronauts so that they feel comfortable on board. and when they got into the module. they understood where they were for this. actually, we have a complex of simulators for the russian segment, where the interior completely repeats, and the interiors of the iss are here. astronauts come as they warm up their food at home. that's it, they already know how to do it everywhere already scientific and with this , in fact, there are no problems. well, as i said , power supply systems are only a small part of the general systems of life. security. and this system, from which water is supplied to the sublimate, is a system for regenerating water from atmospheric moisture condensate. we also teach her how to work, that is, all the water is hot, which comes sublime with which you prepare these sublimates. this is water, which actually turned out due to the fact that a person

is in his mouth. well, ideally, it would be just so that only this would be water, if it were available, ordinary people can also buy this food. yes, of course, uh, well, where are these varnishes? yes, we are in the training center cosmonauts definitely have such a stall in the building of the second department of cosmonauts star city, they wrote down. yes, so what if they come to us. in the course and people, then they, respectively, can purchase these products. and the biryulevsky plant has its own online store. you are actually any person, can be a gift. eh for yourself huh? buy it yourself, well, almost any product, they have a fairly large assortment, of course, the price will bite, because, as i said, this is a separate production line. here, well, the technology is still the same the most. well, just the wiring they sell there is also space vodka, people here ahead believe. yes, we know there are such showcases. where can you pay 500

rubles. or how many cubes do you get out of it, and there i just didn’t see a hamburger, they even put these french fries in, that is, uh, they treated me. i tried a little, uh, try this vodka. it's generally, it's just mockery is here. well , as i understand it, people buy this tube of vodka, and they also sell a tube of pickles, probably there for the sake of entertainment with friends is something. more on a spoon there squeezed out. so, well, just what you can buy through biryulyovo, you can buy a real space one there. we don't eat that, of course. as you said at the very beginning of our conversation, what are left? we have honey mustard sauces. yes, but you can buy it this way, but from the word where i tried it from, when we teach cosmonauts we are practically in the classroom an astronaut, astronauts. we have real men, they won't try. especially it

has already eaten half a year. they don't have to offer to try. we are also interested because all astronauts like something of their own. sometimes you can, yes, only sometimes. oh, and salivating. unfortunately time is running out. today we talked about the coolest taste that is on board the iss is our space food anna how do you see a person, what will he do in space in 50 years? let's hope it's 50 years from now. maybe we'll just leave our solar system. well, i mean, not all the inhabitants of the planet earth , but at least astronauts and astronauts. i think that we should already quietly go there at least get somewhere beyond pluto. well, the main question. why haven't we answered this question yet? why now this is such a figurative answer for the development of science. so, when are we going to find out ? why when we discover on some planet some interesting thing

to listen to next? well i guess what's next. it seems to me that, well, this is my purely personal opinion that it will still be necessary to go a little further. yes, deepen. yes, that's when we answer the question. and why then do we go? this is the development of science and the development of astronautics and everything. bye then, that we fly around our earth not at all at a great distance, but at the same time we have a science about space. yes, science is moving forward every day. and now it is important and valuable, that's why it is so important to do it. what are you doing now to popularize astronautics, so that in the future there will be more engineers and more people who are interested in astronautics? how about the meaning of life? thank you, she was a guest at the cosmonaut training center, a specialist in space nutrition. i am anton shklarov. this was a space history podcast. all episodes of the podcast project. you can watch the lab on the site of the first channel 1tv.ru

hello, my name is dmitry bug. i am the host of a literary podcast called let them not talk, let them read, and i and my wonderful people talk about this sweet wonderful process, because reading e in many ways allows us to live another life reading books. we observe landscapes, we see pictures of the past. we penetrate the secret of strong characters. we meet amazing people. in a word, read. it's fashionable cool wonderful. it is absolutely not an outdated way of life. this is life itself, so today we will talk wonderful. uh, our guest is a famous prose writer.

sergey shzhnov sergey hello. i am glad to welcome dmitry. here, eh, a little . to remember those writers with whom you were fond, who fascinated you, you will probably mention the limonov horde. uh, the figure is complex debatable, but the literature of the book is this book from different conversations with very different people. uh, when they were alive, they might just not have been on friendly terms at all. although all of them are connected in one way or another by a common past and e at about the same time. they came to literature and still went alone, that is, corks not only of lemons. this is not only limonov and not only yuri vitalyevich mamleev, but it is also valentina yuryevich rasputina and evgeny aleksandrovich yevtushenko and phasilia was through the cander. this is andrei georgievich bitov and

many many others, and hmm for me, of course, it is precious that i managed to communicate with these people and in my own way take a look. on them. well, if we talk about the same eduard limonov, well, at one time it was known that i gave my debut award all the money to him for a lawyer. in general, m-m, i was lucky to communicate with him. uh, and for me it is, of course, uh, very bright free hmm, first of all, an artist. yes, for me, too, this is actually in a sense the next razumovsky line in literature. because it is impossible to reduce it to something square and flat . all the same, that rozanov was engaged in this as a connoisseur for cabbies. still less he was also a practical person. yes, live, yes, and broadcast it in his prose. hmm

i must say that i'm getting ready to go. new edition. there is no unknown new book damanov, before his death rose or poetry, he wrote a collection of poems. these are the poems of a dying man, in general, the most bitter in defeat and in a sense, he even exploited this technique, er, when from the personal sphere? yes, betrayal, a departed wife who sold her comrades, and it turned into excellent literature. this is, uh, such a constant diary loser, but he could to achieve a lot of semi-official social benefits, but unlike many who, but imagines themselves to be followers of successors. i would say i do not, but someone manifests it. he was absolutely not conjuncture, and he is devoid of

conformism. wow, that's a complex figure. it is terrible for our literature. so the book is excellent, because he is a wonderful poet and i hope that this book of unknown last sticks. limonov completely collected by him as a collection. uh, coming out soon. well, what are we waiting for the book? well let's talk now about one of your main books - this is a book. here in my hands is one of her editions. this is a book called kataev the pursuit of eternal spring on the book by valentina petrovich kataev, how easy is it to guess the titles? what is the mystical connection with the hero? after all, the author can't just write someone's biography, maybe because he is uh hmm associated with youth magazine like you or not only this connection continues. yeah, because i became the editor-in-chief of youth after writing this book. maybe that's how it worked the reason for the magazine youth to come well, i dreamed it went hand in hand, and then

they called me from there and they say, listen , come on, you had already written a book by that time, yes, that is, it was such gratitude, i perceive it that way, but wonderful, what a figure to say that for me this is the most excellent stylist. uh, just uh, a wonderful writer, and in literature, fiction is the most important thing for me, and i just enjoy reading kataev a, among other things. i wanted to figure it out, or at least try somehow comprehend his sharp plot life, he was both red and white, he was almost shot in the basement of the odessa cheka on the other side hanging offspring. this is a whole story for the development of literature. he gave way constantly to the young, without him there would not have been many names in literature, as all this was, and i want to say that this book continues, because new and new amazing emotions emerge. i think that there will be

a fourth edition, because, for example, interrogation protocols were revealed. e, and it turned out that the same time when he was sitting. there i am waiting for the execution, his friend eduard bagritsky poet was arrested, to whom kataev then , in general, gave. a ticket to literature, that is, he dragged him to moscow and began to drive through magazines and made him a famous poet. well, in general, there are a lot of important interesting things that are not here, but key circumstances, and in this book, too, i felt like a hmm little thing. uh, just investigating, and there are a lot of u unique letters here. and lesha myndelstam, uh, and many others. uh, there is evgeny petrov , brother of valentin kataev, this topic continues rides an excellent writer. and for me this is the main thing. and uh, here is the current youth, you also started talking about it. you are the editor-in-chief of a youth magazine, and that in itself is very

cool that the magazine exists because not all magazines have survived. this is our sadness. this is our sadness. soon the pain of all comb literature. this is a pain, but in fact , everything must be done to ensure that this truly national treasure lives on. uh-huh and actually, through this writers association that i head, i began to make a very a lot in order to somehow support the leading fat men, because this is really an instance of taste. this is a combination of very different wonderful genres, and nowhere else. how exactly inside the tolstoy magazine. and it's not archaic. this is an opportunity to publish and speak for good authors of various generations of unknowns. uh, maybe oleg grigor, chukhontsev or sosisovich kushnar, who for 80 will write several poems, and they come to the magazine, but the world, and the banner, and very

young are young. and oleg grigorievich is also our beautiful, very young authors, who are now thinking where they should go there with a story with a literary-critical text. now there is a wonderful critic. from the city of kamyshin, volgograd region, ivan rodion ivan rodionov, a regular contributor to the youth magazine, is a man who cleverly and subtly brilliantly interprets modern literature, where you live is less important, yes, because everything is immediately available on the internet. yes, youth, uh, gives its space to different writers. we have a lot of famous writers who have been published, but at the same time it is very important that the lion's share is a writer. new. this is the generation of 20-year-old regions, which is very important, i am glad that a lot of very noticeable interesting ones have really appeared. uh, original brand new writers. well, i just read ekaterina manuela hmm uh, vera bogdanova in my opinion

this. it's very well known. yes , this fame arises very quickly and rapidly from the debut. i don't think it spoils the authors as a rule; on the contrary, it gives some momentum to continue. and this is an example for others. who wants to write, who has such a need, start trying yourself no, there are no restrictions. no obstacles, please, it's very cool. and it seems to me that the creative, uh, spirit is something that is extremely important to society. well, the society and the society of the nation, the ethnic group, whatever it takes, to have this, uh, creative environment, that's right. uh, of course, there is no doubt about that, but in thick magazines - this is a mystery station that is over. eh, well, for a century and a half , maybe even more, it was the main one in russian literature, because the book followed a magazine was always a person who wanted to take place in literature was a magazine. yes

, whether it’s dostoevsky or goncharov with his farmers’ novels about this, the speech continues and it’s important for me, for example, that i wrote a story e for myself before, for example, the collection came out. i give stories to thick magazines here. mentioned about the association, uh writer of the publishers you head and hmm here again. ah, skepticism. that's what the idea was, after all, how the idea was not to unify, but to support the fact is that after the collapse of the union of soviet writers formed a few organizations, but after 30 years, tearing all sorts of rubbish thieves direction, that there is something very important that can be characterized. as a common cause, because you need to support older writers, the needy need to support the young, you need to generally help writers. as

a result, it was possible to create a kind of super structure, but every organization. yes , all the largest chinese organizations entered the following connections of the ussr and v.a. creative council of the association entered. uh, wonderful writers who are not fully least identify themselves with any of the union. this, too, must be understood, this is great, because this is not a bureaucratic, but a living thing and a real writer in a certain sense , a loner, and we have, uh, writers of different generational worldviews. but there is something that manages to be done for them - these are trips of writers around the country throughout russia - these are workshops for the residence of writers. this is a creative residence. that is, a lady of creativity, when a writer can say, i would like to live here and write, breathe this far eastern air there, take a walk

write, and this is support for thick logs. this is support for national literature and translations. and now we will have trips of writers to book fairs in the cis, which is also very important and great. in general, the dialogue of culture is important, it is very important to set up and establish this communication. well, children's centers, by the way, speaking, corleone artery, almost everything was named, which happens in literature. yes, uh, and. well, and, of course, i would like to say separately that simply and critics the center aspire association with the writer of russia is the house of legendary growth growth house. eh, in moscow somewhere she was on the street, literally every uh, a variety of literary meetings are held openly and freely for everyone. and that's it. this. i think it is an important and noble task. well, here we are, dear, our viewers went

through such a very wide circle, because no one will be visiting sergei shagunov, and sergei sherburgunov , we also talked about how a writer can and should write about personal will. here is what he perceives e in his creative work. unity a ended with a conversation about a writer who organizes a, process literary makes. uh, everything is a lot for others, this is, uh, sergey shragunov and i, uh , with great pleasure, thank you. e, sergei alexandrovich for this conversation and i am sure that we will meet with you more than once. thank you very much dmitry petrovich thank you from support. so our dear viewers. it was a literary podcast. uh, dmitry baka podcast is called. let them not speak. let them read today's issue. we spoke with the wonderful writer sergei shergunov, and together with sergei we tell you to read with

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