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in 1921, after three years of living together with briks, mayakovsky became a father. but it was not lilya brik who gave birth to his first child, but a colleague in the windows of growth, elizaveta lavinskaya, today the granddaughter of vladimir mayakovsky also bears the name, which, of course, cannot be said about mayakovsky in relation to her father was born. as a teenager, she had an abortion that left her barren for the rest of her life. when is papa born now? the mother of the child, elizaveta lavinskaya, was married. she and her husband shared
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the new idea of ​​free love, without jealousy and resentment. water lavinskaya's husband at first did not accept someone else's child, but in accordance with progressive views, he resigned himself to calling the boy a double name gleb nikita and sent him to an orphanage. that's how they called it through the dash and gave the orphanage such a generally unfortunate fate. he had projects for placing children in orphanages, as a more advantageous option than family education, because, as it was believed for all the years, namely, upbringing in an orphanage can raise a child of a real collectivist, child's father. vladimir mayakovsky did not interfere with the fate of his son, he did not like, he ran all the time from
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my grandmother. in fact, there was no talk of any romance there, when gleb nikiki was 3 years old lavinsky, nevertheless they took him to their family. vladimir mayakovsky once visited his son. once he came to us, of course, everyone knows that mayakovsky was a huge growth, and he put me on his shoulders to him. he went out onto the balcony it was night. he said, do you want to look at the moon. gleb nikita lavinsky will become a successful sculptor. his daughter elizabeth is the only one to whom the son of mayakovsky confided his memories. dad treated him like a father. i don’t even remember, but not a single day that he didn’t read mayakovsky’s poems, he knew mayakovsky everything right by heart completely gleb nikita lavinsky
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believed that he would meet with him, so she forbade lilya brik and urged his mother to stop looking for meetings with mayakovsky. wherever you go beyond mayakovsky, he still loves only me, he will always belong to me, and you will walk around him and suffer. mayakovsky's son will forgive in 1924, the situation in soviet russia sharply
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changes vladimir lenin dies power passes to joseph stalin from his posts, key associates of lenin are removed , including an ardent admirer of mayakovsky, one of the leaders of the revolution, lev trotsky mayakovsky writes the end of october, october will not burn out. he already understood what was happening in the country. mayakovsky's euphoria from revolutionary changes is replaced by disappointment , gradually losing the support of the authorities, which from now on will not accept criticism. trotsky
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, vladimir mayakovsky goes on tour in the usa for the sake of this, for the first time in 10 years, for a long time separated from the lilies. he really wanted a little fish a little escape at the same time another life. yes, i wanted to go to america and i tried many times to get to america in america. he will spend half a year. here he meets ellie jones, she will become the mother of his second child with mayakovsky. she was a model , he loved my mother because she was russian elizaveta zilbert. translated mayakovsky's poems into english. he did not
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like to stay on the embankments of new york. he alone was comfortable with real women, and not in such fake relationships. their romance developed at an incredible pace. mayakovsky still felt like a loner in this city and two loneliness met. this brings mayakovsky's visa and ellie's glass very close together in six months, seeing off her lover on a steamer to europe that she is pregnant. he knew he was already leaving america for home. mayakovsky returns to moscow depressed. he tells lily about his affair and his lover's pregnancy. he tried to come back one more time to meet us again. patricia's father will be destined
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to meet only once in passing in nice i think we need to understand the complexity of this kind of love, love was a beast, patricia's mother or jones will hide the name of her daughter's real father all her life, when he died, she kept only one letter. she destroyed everything in case she dies those letters, whatever. patricia found out that her father vladimir mayakovsky was only 9 years old when mother, having told her this secret, forbade her from revealing it until her death . lily brik patricia carried the memories of her only meeting with her father through her whole life. mayakovsky shortly after that meeting
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tells lily that she wants to live with ellie and with her daughter. brick took the news painfully. for her well-being, she was afraid to lose the life he provided for her. in paris with a young russian emigrant tatyana yakovleva at the instigation of relieu, in order to again find some kind of lightning rod from this american on any mayakovsky, but instead of
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a fleeting infatuation, acquaintance with tatyana yakovleva turns into a new serious romance. he asks to give her time to think. i'll take one or two with paris. worried about getting married and we are also a nation. with her years of life
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a boy with such an incredible poetic talent, and early departed families. and judging by uh family memoirs, it's quite boring. in general, he never understood this warmth, which he obviously did not receive from anyone to the end. well, of course, he wanted to have a family, he wanted comfort, he wanted warmth. the tragedy of mayakovsky in his relationship with lily brig is very similar to the very tragedy of the sexual revolution in the ussr of the twenties, because the revolution did not win lilia wrote a letter. oh what love -
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he understood this heart of everything differently than the briks, they promoted free love, but the mayakovsky ones did not accept and did not understand mayakovsky, they still lived at his expense, they did not want him to leave the family in order to distract vladimir from thought about the wedding of tatyana yakovleva, the briks again resort to a tried and tested remedy. lily yuryevna and osip maksimovich decided to introduce him to the strip, in which the entire art theater was in love. the young actress is pretty, and her husband worked. in the same theater, mayakovsky will not be able to marry veronica striped, because she was married, the calculation turned out to be a true poet, fell in love
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and began to seek reciprocity. but the bolognese did not dare to leave her husband. she had an abortion, convinced of the futility of mayakovsky's new novel . briks leave for england. tries to convince veronica to leave her husband. we have already made an offer to the strip and even paid for the co-op. he wanted to, uh, contributed money for the cooperative and wanted to move with a strip to this apartment in the twenty-ninth year in the soviet union before the arrival of the briks. union intensified repression. stalin gets up out of the country lvatronsky communicated were repressed mayakovsky confused. he is seriously afraid that tomorrow they will call him an enemy in the thirtieth year. uh, mayakovsky asked
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svetlov how do you think they will put me in jail? to which he lightly surprised asked him how vladimir vladimirovich you are a proletarian poet and mayakovsky answered him so in this weigh a paradox. you go like a gorilla to the spiritual hole of an animal you come back from all the age-old sophisticated lyrics. one will remain man to sleep. in february 1930, the poet arranges a large exhibition dedicated to the twentieth anniversary of his work on the political situation. before the exhibition, mayakovsky, of course
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, prepared to invite for tickets, and, uh, the poet sent the members of the government at the opening of the exhibition, personally met the guests, but none of the leaders of the country came. they even talked about the fact that there was a conspiracy of silence around the exhibition, just 2 days before his death at mayakovsky's last performance in the hall. some viewers will yell insults at him. someone from the wings handed him a note, in which there was such a content that all great people commit suicide when you shoot yourself. the next day, mayakovsky will beg veronica polonskaya to leave her husband and start a happy life with him. the young twenty-year-old artist could not decide, e,
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connect her life e with such a neurasthenic e difficult person who had been waiting for a year. what kind of person loves her on april 14, the poet, disappointed in love, persecuted by the audience and the authorities shot himself in the heart in his farewell letter, the poet directly addressed lily brik lily love me, comrade government my family is lilya brig , my sister's mother and veronika vitolievna, polonskaya. and if you arrange a tolerable life, thank you started poetry. give a brick, but they won't figure it out. mayakovsky's suicide spread like lightning already. in the evening
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, obituaries appeared in all the newspapers, praising the great poet of the revolution. several thousand people gathered for mayakovsky's funeral and solemnly proceeded through the central streets of the capital. after the death of the poet, not only poems, but also his entire archive, diaries and letters were in hands. lily brit mayakovsky seemed to find himself again in the power of a woman whose unrequited love tormented him all his life lily yurievna in her memoirs. e, she wrote about the poseton maxim and herself, as the only
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family of mayakovsky, for her part, wrote her biography of my cat, entered some of her pages. there is absolutely certain information that she read all the letters of tatyana yakovleva and, after the death of mayakovsky, she burned them. lilya brik committed suicide in 1978 and was 87 years old. the truth about their relations with vladimir mayakovsky, she forever took the diary with her. e mayakovsky already after his death in the desk and after i met him i decided not to publish it completely not alone. uh, the person apparently didn’t read it, many of the poet’s motives and actions remain inexplicable to this day, but the answers to
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most questions can be found in poetry, which reflects his true thoughts and feelings in poetry. the hidden reason why vladimir mayakovsky i felt redundant in my life. as they say, the love boat incident i broke life i life in the calculation and there is no need for a list of mutual pains, troubles and insults. stay happy vladimir mayakovsky
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hello this is a podcast of the psyche. my name is natalya loseva. i am a journalist and together with my co-host clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological sciences mikhail khors, we are writing a book of your destinies, each chapter of this book, a huge great story, is really our heroine today's pr manager. tatyana asoyan, mother of three children , tatyana actually lost these same children. i understand that your husband actually took your three children. and he did everything so that you could not physically communicate with them in any way, despite even the decision of the court so, yes, hello natalya, almost like that, and in fact, i came here
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to ask first of all for help and tell my story, because i was faced with such a concept as parental alienation syndrome, when, after the separation of two adults, mom and dad, one of the parents completely deprives the second parent of communication with children and any participation in their lives. let's take a look at the story first. why did you not immediately come to this alienated parent syndrome, something happened to become alienated parents. yes, of course, it took a lot of time to reach this concept and to realize this situation, as he deprived you of your children. ah, under the pretext of a vacation after a divorce that took place literally 2 weeks after our divorce. and he suddenly announced that he and
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their children, our nannies, were going on vacation to sochi. and for me it was a complete surprise. at that moment, i suddenly went to the hospital and did not could have contributed to this situation. and, accordingly, they put me before the fact, not informing them of any dates when they would return . a few days passed, and he wrote a message that we were now going to visit relatives. to armenia to yerevan to rest until the end of summer. it was the middle of july, he comes from yerevan. yes, he comes from the children of russian citizenship. in children. at that time, there was only russian citizenship. yes , it was summer. i then successfully tried to find a job, because for almost all 11 years i was engaged in family and home, but was with children. generally. it is no longer a secret, truly his ex-spouse.
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i work left it so happened that we are your children. yes, these are my children. this is when the photo stands, this is one of the most recent photos. here is july 21. you haven't seen them since july 21. i last saw them in november 21. literally, when i came to yerevan twice for half an hour . approximately this is just in august, when i wanted to pick them up, when they were in yerevan and so you find out that your children are your husband's relatives fighting with distant relatives. of course, we all talked very often there every summer , we came there for a few weeks on vacation. and hmm, i thought, well, yes, indeed, the situation was extremely tense. extremely acute for everyone and they are the father's joint venture. they were with our nanny, who
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appeared already, but with the advent of the third child. prior to that, i was fully engaged with the children. at the end of august was the birthday of robert's middle son, and i came to congratulate him and made a surprise for everyone. they are not they knew that i would fly, they were going to celebrate with our grandmothers, and the birthday in the village. and i was well received. they were surprised. they knew that we had an acute situation, that we were divorced. and that this decision was extremely difficult for me. i was the initiator of this divorce. you were delighted, and they were delighted, but then i felt some fear in my eldest daughter . although we then talked on the phone on the video. very often, all this month and then , relatives told me that as soon as we ended the conversation on this began to cry. and she says that i want to go home, i want to go to
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my mother. but, that is, from her there was feedback , it was warm. and as as if we were apart, and it must be added that we never parted with them. before. that is, i was always with the children, that is, i parted with him , only to go to the maternity hospital and the parents of the next child, so for us, in principle, there was separation even that month. well, a very stressful and not atypical situation. i understand correctly that you, too, were never allowed to pick up children to moscow to their homeland to the city in which you live, in which all the details are alive to lead the children at the end of august to go to school. eh, and the husband gave. he said that the children would never leave here. but it was said in our hearts, it was such a rather emotional situation and hmm well, in fact, i really couldn’t
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make it out, because all the documents were hidden, it was clear to him that they would not give back. and i had to return to moscow in order to sue to determine the place of residence of the children. i didn't want to do this before the last one. i really wanted to make a deal. yes, in the end you got a court decision, but in the end i only received a court decision . at this time, my claim has been denied. despite the fact that the children were not interviewed by the court, and hmm, my husband refused to transport them to the court. i explain this by the fact that he is afraid that i will steal them and he will never take them again on the basis that they said. here are these wonderful people who make decisions that you cannot, like a mother of your own children. and if the lawsuit involves children, naturally, there is, uh, a third
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party. these are bodies, guardianship bodies, guardianships must make their own decision. regarding this whole situation, it is based solely on a survey of older children who have reached the age of 10 and they were told that they want to live socially, they did not tell the russian court and experts anything there is a certain document, e from the guardianship authorities of the city of yerevan, but it was not so called a poll according to all the rules, and the guardianship authorities came to look, of course, how they live and where they live. that's conditions of how they live there. well, everything suited them and, accordingly, there, in some kind of conditionally private conversation, hmm, the children said that they were fine there, they were fine with their dad , it’s true that even during marriage, your spouse offered you to look at some paper from the refusal to children. well, when it was already clear that we were getting
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a divorce. yes, there were some. words that i'm afraid that you will never let me communicate with them. although , of course, i didn’t have such thoughts, we yes, we, therefore , he decided to make it so that he could decide communicate. i want to be the guardian of the children. i did not understand what this meant and such terminology is better, as for, of course, mom and dad do not exist. well, of course, i refused to sign any papers, because it was clear that at that time there was probably already a very serious pr campaign against me, with the advice of his lawyers. you can say mine. well, a well-known pr man, apparently, my husband, of course, is a professional, so tatiana tell me, where is he now? i don't know, where is she now about the children, where i don't know where
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they are, and he refuses to tell me that. and you don't even communicate by video call now. if i could communicate via video link, i would be the happiest person about relatives , somehow, he has some sisters, brothers, aunts , uncles of a large armenian family. we have such a situation that the wife did not become him very early. mom is very small and his father, unfortunately, has also been gone for a long time. e alive from close relatives. he only has family older sister, and she supported me in this story won. yes, she supported me, and hmm, they ended the relationship. he calls her my ex-sister. i express my deepest sympathy and understanding to you directly, and i don’t know, natalya, how emotionally all this resonates with you. i, as a human being, it's bitter that i'm
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now i'll try not to cry in the frame. sorry, but this is really very short. well , unfortunately, my psychologists cannot afford this bitterness. we are still working on our emotional state, so as not to burn out. yes, well, but ordinary people, of course, this is how, uh, it undoubtedly feels, but let's try to do something with this both at the level of your emotional state and at the level of your possible further behavior, but for this let's still because we have a massive transfer. yes, we now have an individual session, we will analyze some mistakes that you made. not in the sense to scold you. and in the sense that women who could be in a similar situation now, so that they do not repeat them, yes, do you have any opinion? what mistake? you have made no, a major mistake. it was to trust completely your spouse
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to trust him. you see, as soon as these words appeared from him. i'm afraid you won't let me talk to the kids. here it is very important, dear friends , that even the closest people at the moment can listen to such phrases, yes and a you know one important thing, that people most often draw a conclusion about others on their own. therefore, if someone tells you that i am afraid that you will not let me see my children, most likely he is he. he speaks about himself, yes, about what you normally understand for him, i'm afraid that you will steal my apartment from me, listen. now, if this is not norm for you. and someone even the closest one tells you about it, draw your own conclusions. well, this is also not one hundred percent, as it were, an indicator, yes, but you can already think there in this direction, that is, in fact , tatyana had to rush, well, or
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another woman who finds herself in such a situation, that's when to run and do . uh, here's the travel ban, of course, yes, he's from another country. he can bring out the children to defend, as much as possible, that is. wow. hmm . here's a story. and now he spits on the feelings of his children. okay on your feelings, he pecks, but it happens. but he spits on the feelings of his children. he is now saying, children do not want to communicate with you. they don’t even call you processing at your mother’s. it's for god's sake. so it is again. even if they say they don't want this is a consequence of the processing. yes, that is , everything is done to break the child, that is, this person has clearly not read any book, even about raising children. yes, he doesn't care. only on your ego, your position, which in
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this case, maybe you are a long-term confrontation, yes, painful, yes, uh, time-consuming money. and this is a very important idea, right? and most likely, this will end when your children can buy a plane ticket for themselves and fly to you to look at you and check. what is the truth of what they have put into this head and it will not necessarily happen when they are 18 years old. it could happen much sooner. but uh, in the end, get ready for this particular development of the situation. get ready legally. prepare emotionally. you came here. this is very correct. for me. it was very hard. i'm generally hard. it is natural to talk about such things and it is absolutely not my task to tell that someone
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in this story is bad, someone is good. i 'm talking about residual facts that i'm, frankly, completely shattered and despite the fact that i go to work every day. i smile to go through life broken. and this is important, because when you say that you are completely broken, you begin to feel that way. you are not completely broken at you enough strength. by the way, the fact that you quit your job at the request, most likely of your spouse and it is likely that you broke off a significant number of social ties while you were married at the request of your spouse or as a result of his actions. this is also a big mistake. here again, three children, this is quite an explanatory situation. no, you can do it, but it's better not to do it. my guest is the real superstar invincible alina zagitova, i didn’t like figure skating at all. that is , she brought me, my mother just like that. let's
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go ride. i'm right there on the edge. just sobbed him. so take me away from here, and then you made me. my mother drove me back and forth and there was a moment when my mother and i flew into a ditch, and the car turned over. that's it. i am also a happy shirt, it turns out was born. tell the story of your olympic medal. you often watch it, sleep with them, in fact. no, just two medals, one silver and one gold. i hardly touch them. have you ever cried because of hurtful comments. no, how strong i am a little yes, a podcast and always on one tv point ru this is a hint of the psyche. my name is natalya loseva , a journalist, my co-host, candidate of psychological sciences, clinical psychologist
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mikhail khors, we are discussing the rather bitter difficult situation of our heroine tatyana , who is deprived of the opportunity to communicate with her three children. why do men do? so? it's clear that it's you who said it's his according to you? why what is the nature of men we know. i think that most of these cases are still on the part of women, more often in our country, yes, than to be guided by whatever fears of their complexes parents are guided by, when like this without looking back, without thinking about the consequences, without thinking about how the situation in the future will affect these children. here they enter into this war, that, well, firstly, here the word will sound again, which we have already used the word psychopathy more than once in our program. there is a special category of people in a certain sense hmm flawed

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