tv PODKAST 1TV July 19, 2023 1:35am-2:11am MSK
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technical psychologist mikhail khors is discussing a rather bitter difficult situation for our heroine tatyana, who is deprived of the opportunity to communicate with her three children. why do men do? so? it's clear that it's you who said it's his according to you? why what nature are you men we know. i think that most of these cases are still on the part of women, most often in our country, yes, what kind of fears of their complexes are guided by parents, when, like this, without looking back, without thinking about the consequences, without thinking about how the future situation will affect these children. here they enter this war, what drives. well, first of all, here again the word will sound, which we have already used the word psychopathy more than once in our program. there is such a special category of people in a certain sense hmm flawed. these are people for
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whom their ego is more important than everything else and as a result they are ready to beat. to break, to destroy , to harm others. even very close by blood, for example, people have psychopathy, maybe, uh, organic, but most often, according to my practice, psychopathy. it's still social, when people are taught this way, in general. um, if it's a disease, why can't it be an argument in court, because it's unlikely that we can diagnose him, yes, but the court takes into account, only diagnoses. here, but here's what, to be honest, i don't see with you. hmm and what i think is playing against you in your behavior even now is your outward calmness. you see, you have had a universal human tragedy. and you , even if you didn’t shed a tear for us, maybe this is the most modest insensibility that happens already when all resources are spent. no
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i saw how and connected came back when you looked at the pictures. i can't look at children's photos moreover, i can't see just children on the streets or if i hear a child crying, is this a reaction for you that would tatyan yes er give up the opinion that you must be strong and without emotional? and yet the emotion is real. you can't play here. yes, no, no, somewhere to prove, of course, we were fished on a tv show, whether where you came from, you need to launch your pr campaign so that this a citizen here in russia could not show his nose to do business, pr to create something else there, so that like every one of his business here, surely he has some kind of business, maybe you still understand that people don’t want to do it without emotions to work and it turns out. and you can't do this without emotions. rationally like this, yes, it's very
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adult. yes, i respect you for that. well, show people your emotions already, maybe, yes, if you only do this, you will suffer from this, but reasonable some share of sensuality here, because to evoke, because by and large , because you came and told all the people sat. here, i put myself in the place of the spectator. yes, he visited such mm, what a strong woman. well, nothing, she will continue to live so strongly. you are trying to negotiate. i or you do not feel the strength in yourself, you doom yourself to defeat in advance not to believe in resentment. why are our forces not equal? i don’t have such resources, i don’t have such influence as his wife, as if about what resources are you talking about about mental, probably about material things, including about him, he was quite an influential person in russia and now i want him for his business. well, what do you know, she
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already works in russia, as far as i know, no, if he is influential in russia and you live in russia, but you are deploying an emotional company. it seems that he closed russia for himself, yes, he is one of those people who suffer from it, he is most likely one of those people who left the country, and they earn money here. looks like i don't know it at all. now i sincerely want to agree, because children suffer first of all. this is not some tactical game to fool him. i understand that children live for 2 years in some kind of formed environment. perhaps, i hope a good comfortable, but financially comfortable among. first of all , there can be no comfort for children if they do not see their mother, and if their mother, and their mother is constantly there, haet and uh, cannot. well, i know that they probably ate three times a day,
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they have er education. yes, they have some kind of life, uh, i think it is definitely secured. a how old was he when he lost his mother with you, and two or two years a little more , that is, he is generally at that age when children remember themselves, he already, but he doesn’t remember his mother, it turns out like that, but this is a big tragedy for any person and michael in it. maybe the key, uh, to his behavior, because he may think so now, well, i grew up without a mother, and they will survive. it's ok. and despite the fact that this is such, uh, psychopathy, there is this narcissism there. i'm good. which one has grown? look here. which beautiful means yes means and they will grow up good about them, but dear dear osayan. you are causing a lot of trauma to your children by doing this, please let them
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see their mother. don't torture your own children. yes, you can break them , beat them, bend them, but by persuading yourself that it will be better for them, it will not be better for them. and by the way, when you say that they live there fed with toys in comfort? and to add a word i hope that this is far from a fact, there is no confirmation yet in question, it’s not so, it’s just that his own sister, people say, yes, sister-in-law snake head, and suddenly she takes a different position in this situation. she knows something. but she knows something. this is not without reason, but i have another question for you. yes? do you have anything else in life besides working for a lawyer? and the emotions that all go into waiting for the moment when
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you meet with the children questions for you and a question for mikhail how is it right do you need to be so focused now or do you still need to live another part of your life if you have a man, if you have friends there is no relationship for sure. i have a couple of close friends, and there are, uh, a lot of great co-workers who have become my friends and are also close enough to support me. but er, yes, absolutely all my strength all my thoughts are daily. they are always with me, i always think latently that i am without children, but i don’t know if this is right or not. but now i can be, as mikhail rightly said about it so calmly , but now well, i don’t have a leg. yes, this is a fact, yes. here i am a little
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i'm disabled, but i'm here to jump i'm moving about getting married to give birth to myself with children in no case instead of these, in no case, only so that god forbid, not you or the audience would not think about it, but as a fulcrum like something here. well, well , some kind of clearance yours is such a difficult life today mikhail maybe i'm wrong. i, for example, here, well, here, i put you in your place. i would at least go out there once a week if possible to the armenian embassy yes with a poster. well, somehow well , why why is our public silent about this it is necessary that you raise this storm yourself, and you keep thinking that you should give up this thought. i want, to be honest, to throw out this white flag and say, all of us have already messed up enough firewood, a lot has been done. a miracle to deeds uh, for the sake of the children of such deeds of the country, what monstrous deeds were made? when i said this now, i had in mind, in principle, the situation in which
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children are without a mother. this naturally affects their development and mental state. what m-m? well, i don’t know how jealous i was, for example, excellent. your jealousy. need to address you message. here, of course, there is such a complex of victims. yes lived somehow you blame yourself, yes blame yourself. yes absolutely yes, that is, it is your fault that your three children were taken away by deceit. i well , i think that in general, in principle, both are to blame, but, probably, yes. i also did something wrong, your ex-husband is a professional, i look like a pr man and probably. manipulator, like all psychopaths, they are just wonderful manipulators and a very good psychologist. here is a rare case when mikhail khors and i are generally on the same
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positions from the point of view of science from the point of view of residence to you, who hammered into your head that you are to blame? what did you beat the children in? offended not fed, well, of course not. what is your fault that you were deprived of the right to communicate, with the children you gave birth to, breast-fed, abandoned your career? we spent every minute of our time with them, with the exception of going to the hospital. and they presented themselves as a mother completely into the fate of their children, what mikhail is to blame for now, in fact, very precisely, with a lock, he opened something. you are guilty before us. here it is important to distinguish yes distinguish between two concepts. concept. first, my situation is a consequence of some of my actions. yes, you did indeed make some mistakes. we
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have analyzed some of them, that is, the responsibility for this, of course, is worth taking. but guilt is something else. responsibility does not destroy personality, but guilt does. guilt is a consequence of the erroneous opinion that in our past tatiana we could behave differently than we did, and this is a very common cognitive error. it's not so perfect, because every moment of time we act as we are allowed by certain opportunities and limitations that exist at this moment, and not only external, but also internal and most often, by the way, inside, therefore at that moment what your faith limited you that the husband does not behave like this. your ah, well, some communist values that you thought were common to all
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people. what you have been told that you are overly jealous. they drove it into my head, what is this, what is this, yes, like everyone is to blame. this, by the way, again, a common manipulation is just such a psychopathic one. it's all your fault. and i'm here, so white and beautiful fluffy. that's why at that moment you couldn't hang yourself differently. could not, but in the future you can behave differently after working through those limiting beliefs that you had at that time? for example, that you yourself are to blame. no, not guilty. yes , you are responsible for these actions. here is what you are doing now, then here is the emotional and physical work that you are now doing. uh, this and there is, uh, your responsibility, by the way, the word work and the word suffering have the same root, yes
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, that is, when we suffer emotionally, we do personal mental work, but in order to work physically we need strength. do you merge these forces of personality strength of willpower into your negativity in relation to yourself? yeah, my feeling that you are to blame, that you are bad, that you did something badly wrong there, that you could have behaved differently. no, you could not. in the past no everything is closed, but in the future you can i really want it, that's why i'm here too, because i want to understand how to act and how not to fall into this situation. once again trumpet this story, everywhere you show your real emotions. try this mask , which can be either protective or you think it’s right, at least sometimes take it off and show people that you are a person, that you are hurting. well, this is a learned quality. to be honest, it took me all this time to now learn
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to open up a little and show people my pain. it is important that they want to help you. and uh, of course, once again let's position. this is a white flag to hang out, this position is completely about games, winning, as long as you are ready to lose all the time , they will not negotiate with you. and of course , remember this important thing, that your children also have the right to choose not to be told, not to be told, they are your children and let them. well, a few years. in order for them to come themselves, they called these few years. they will grow without me. i won't see every day. i won't know how they will it. well, maybe they will be without you, but maybe not. you can now situation change. no? michael do not waste your resources now, if you spend only on this experience, how they grow
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every second, what now without me, what tomorrow without me, you understand, this is completely understandable and explainable feelings and experiences, but the energy is spent in the wrong direction. your energy should be focused on resolving this situation by saving yourself. how is a healthy mother, a healthy mentally resourceful person? what does mom say now? take care of this important thing, what else is important tatyana yes, if you have anger at yourself, what are you, uh, is this all emotional or dissatisfied with yourself, what are you experiencing so much? no, i don't have that anger, personally. yes, negative emotions of the second floor. yes, as it were, if this is not there, yes, so, uh, it means that you have correctly lined up about this, but your own cards. yes relationship to yourself, what you find emotions have the right to? well, i want to explain a little. i still retain this strength and do not lose, let's say, the presence of mind and keep
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my emotions in myself, because, and i'm the only one for me no one to rely on. unfortunately, i no longer have my parents alive, so i have to save myself. well, in the resource, including, yes , and do not give much will to your own. do not cry at every corner and remember this for nothing. yes, but somewhere to cry. yes, just one more time. let your people see it too. you have someone to put on. we have a society, it is sympathetic, you know. we have it. maybe it would be right to say, i can't completely put it on anyone so completely and don't need to withdraw. once we tried to completely rely on a person. yes, to get it me. i started with this you are the main problem that people face full trust and complete. eh, this is what to rely on, yes, rely on the very word to lie. on the bed, well, rely on. have a rest, dear
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friends, and you don’t have to rely on other people to lean on once in something is not a problem. here, and relying completely on someone will break people, from this. i want to tell you that there are a few things that i believe, the first thing that is deep. do you believe that everything is fixable, as long as people are alive and sometimes some kind of postponed a result or, uh, a mistake that gets over after an excruciatingly long time, you know, then compensates like that. so generously, the lord and the universe, fate measures out the reward for those who have been transferred, what do you understand? then it was worth being patient, the second. i believe that life is compensated. this second follows from the first. and the third what do i believe, that mine is also quite long. life is such that, well, no matter how perverted the enemies,
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no matter how strong, cunning and powerful, the truth will always find its way. and your children will understand everything sooner or later. and your mother's prayer, which, as you know , raises from the graves here is your mother's prayer , even in the absence of physical contact of the video link of conversations. she is stronger than all this. you see, i don’t know how it works, but a mother’s heart with a child’s heart is drunk side by side. believe. you do not despair. in any case, victory to you. immediately will of the lord, we really admire you. yes, here we are really with natalie admiration together. i'll try not to empathize with you. although, this is already the father of three children, but i have admiration for you. thank you very much, and i have never done this, for
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our entire program, but i offer you my professional help here. and please contact me. i am pleased and grateful, of course. here, thanks a lot to mikhail. and i really ask a wonderful person, a very active and influential maria lvov, to pay attention to this situation. help us, please, friends. it was a podcast of the psyche, where i am a journalist, natalya loseva, my co-host is a clinical psychologist, candidate of psychological mikhail khors well, in any case, i definitely lived through the story of our heroine tatyana, who today is deprived of the opportunity to see and communicate with her three children. and we all in this studio hope and believe that tatiana
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will win. we really, really want this for our heroine. dear friends, ah, asking for help makes you stronger, so please come join us on the psychic podcast. we will help you. and you will strive to solve your problems yourself, too. so you will become much stronger. oh now i'm crying. thanks good. thank you so, you must definitely believe. you just need to believe. i am waiting for you. thank you very much a great gift to the site. and how can we do it? mikhail mikhail the phone is simple may i have your mobile, of course editor?
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hello this is a podcast by fire and i am its host denis gorelov with a story about the main domestic syrian premiers of the month, as well as some super-important cinema premieres, which are seriously a worthy conversation as the first number of our program. uh, of course is a series of actresses who have long been it was time to cover it, but we kept delaying because of the holiday season, and the film was directed by, uh, fyodor sergeevich bondarchuk, and benchuk rarely shoots. maybe that's why it's so accurate. well, he always said in his interviews that he loves money, but they prefer to earn money by their production or acting work. and when the sura is taken for a resource, then he gives all the best, and
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yet the series tries to make some serious statement. he didn't shoot for a long time. uh, he was being held offended already, many of his colleagues, but in in the end, and he so far, his wife is not unknown. paulina wrote the script for psycho. uh, many people remember this wonderful series with konstantin yuryevich bogomolov and oleg evgenievich menshikov . i am in the text in the komsomol. honestly said that this is not her most likely work. uh, most likely, fyodor sergeevich hired literary blacks as a gift to his wife. since i myself am not prone to writing, but the next people said that it is her that works only her. and this season she has already written the second script. uh, actress script. and we can
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say with all responsibility that in addition to an extremely expressive actress, we also have a virtuoso screenwriter. e to andrey paulin, and according to the plot, the e trises of a friend performed by elena nikolaeva polina pushkaruk and svetlana khodchenkova compete among themselves for e. quite difficult and personal tragedies and all that stuff live through the approval for some roles, however, uh, it’s clear that all domestic tragedies, and family breakdown, distance child, the death of a colleague for them, in general, is quite peripheral, as for any of their colleagues, and the main most cruel and heart-rending tragedies are not approval for the role, not an invitation to audition. uh, exit from a stage form due to age. well, the intrigues of colleagues who want to get around the heroines at the turn, and the
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film clearly shows hmm, it’s the virtuoso director. and in particular, for example, the episode when hmm the hero. the first series, e alexei makarova some big, big bouquets of flowers, and this episode rhymes with the previous one with his performance, uh, the role of zil in duck hunting, where friends, uh, jokers send to the hero. uh, the ball is a big funeral wreath, i sign that, in general, he is already a living corpse and there is nothing to talk about with him , but i must say that, uh, hmm, not an old man with a bouquet of flowers, especially those given to him, uh, looks like a corpse in a coffin. and so the artist quickly understands this and begins to give away bouquets to his former mistresses from the production dressing room. workshops, which looks even more disgusting,
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because the mistress perfectly understands that, uh, where did these bouquets come from, that they were not worth it. e beneficiary is not a penny, a rhyme. in general, they are quite readable and very impressive. it speaks even more about the skill of the screenwriter and director. uh, the timing of each episode. the thing is, there are usually some serious dramatic statements in our series. uh, have a length of 42-48 minutes per episode. ah, 25-30 minutes go by. uh, hmm, horror sitcoms like that, genre scumbags. so, uh, fedor sergeevich breaks down tragedy heroes into 32 minute episodes. uh, i sign this way, it 's really a tragedy. although i have them and even though they get their very hearts, but in general, like pushkin’s, little ones are so short, and, accordingly, he
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ends each series of e with a carbolette. and hmm, with such an inserted very bright musical number, the musical is the most conditional, the most artificial genre. photographer lars von trier, dancing in the dark, noticed this, uh, and here, in fact, both the artificiality of the profession and some demonic nature are emphasized rhythmic dance, or waiters, or, uh, hmm, all sorts of black demons, uh, or unclaimed job applicants who are ready to kill anyone to be in demand, all actors with incredible pleasure perform their roles of weak roles in the picture. no, all sorts of pretentious directors are played especially with a special knife, and from erotic parts, especially lolita milyavskaya should be singled out in
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the role of the theater director. well, here, indeed, the same corps de ballet which, with its mm mechanical plasticity and false smiles. it only emphasizes a certain nature of acting in the picture of e. in addition, they are pedaling that all the biggest meanness, all the most, indecent setups of the heroine are done against each other solely for the sake of, but kymonographic absolute bullshit. but the fact is that, in the film, inside the series, a film is being shot called nerves films, with such a name they cannot be good by definition , i vouch, and in it the actresses are looking for vacancies in a monstrous tacky production of a three- penny opera, brecht by the hands of a french director, migrant worker, some children's matinees are playing there. even duck hunting. ah,
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great play. vampire, played very badly and badly. uh, obviously on instructions, the director before the performance, alexei makarov, rushes around the stage. e at the e-e theater is kind to all the uh workshops with the orchestra and with absolutely anyone you can, and right on the stage it becomes absolutely wooden. uh, a good artist is tasked with playing badly. and all this shows that uh all uh, hmm deprivation all uh, hmm competitive. ah, confrontation. uh, experienced by heroes and heroines it was only for the sake of nonsense that there was a talk that uh hmm the script was even more fierce, but kot leopold fedor sergeevich, with his tendency to smooth the corners, smoothed these out. still a little. eh, hmm serious and ferocious message
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combed. and if, uh, that picture that came out on the screen is still the light version, then it’s even scary to imagine what was in the original, but in any case, this is a very vivid statement. the general public, e , accepted it rather biasedly, that is, they watched it, but a lot of people wrote on the net. uh, appealing like triss khodchenkova first of all, we thought that you are like that, but it turned out that these bastards are not such a game at all. and you're ashamed and we don't love you anymore. well, the general public, indeed, always suspects that an actor cannot be scoundrels when directors will tell anyone in the ear that no one else is scoundrels. they cannot be, and in real life this is, of course, an exaggeration and inclusion. i know, but in general, uh, the profession is rather vile. uh, what all the characters speak directly about, and the screenwriter and director know the profession firsthand
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they know it by themselves hmm as it was said in the famous cartoon film and to us, of course good that there is hard work the film turned out to be a very serious statement. oh, uh dramatic and, frankly, a rather dastardly profession is the next item on our review, as the feature film nuremberg is not a tv series. uh, hmm theatrical premiere, which hmm in general, it is worth talking about first of all in force. uh, some rethinking, uh , of our and the world's past during the current era of confrontation, and all this, of course, uh, the situation does not require film studies. a historical. with fire and i, its presenter denis burned down with the story, and the most important premieres
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of the serial summer and the most important cinema screenings, and the nuanced tribunal worth talking about, which for many decades was served with us as an absolute triumph of justice or not? uh, wwii and wwii in general was truly a triumph of manglo-american justice with their own show, to which they let us in as, but as one of the acting parties. a-a, the two countries least affected during world war ii wars organized everything that happened. uh, hmm , russia had to play by their rules then, because two-thirds of germany was occupied by american troops and, uh, all nazi criminals tried to surrender to them. and we just had no other way out in search. at least some hmm universal justice. our side of
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the prosecution was forced to work according to their rules. and in this situation, we really snatched our piece of justice; part of the defendants was brought under the loop precisely effort. russia’s accusers of rudenko’s novel, for example, in the west still no one knows why they were executed, e, general and keitaly yodel, and whether they were executed it was because one was the chief of the general staff of the other, uh, the commander of the united group, uh, signed at the cash desk for the liquidation of military justice on the island front, that is, they were given complete freedom of expression, and the occupying corporate soldier. bastards, the germans did absolutely everything they wanted on the territory, not constrained by any military prosecutors. for which, in fact, these generals were eliminated , but, nevertheless, the main intrigue of the nuremberg
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tribunal was the speech of the gayring, and which today is by and large inaccessible for reading at the time of the publication of the transcript, of course, it was now censored on the net. some go. mm messy fragments goering uh actually turned his speech into not something like that, uh georgy dimitrov's speech at the papa jogu reichstan trial. he said that there is no legitimacy of the court recognizes that the third reich did not commit a single crime that would not have been committed in different years by the victorious countries, therefore , from the point of view of higher justice, there is no hmm right to judge, uh, nazism. e, u. e. hmm, these countries were not, and goering said that this is the court of the winners. he does not recognize him. accepted right away. i. uh, depriving, even the opportunity to execute him is now frankly overdue. ah,
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rethinking. uh, this event of this tribunal, to which we have given an aura of legitimacy for more than half a century. to unfortunately nikolai lebedev tuf uh, somehow anew. eh, hmm, it's more effective to orchestrate the old myth, but uh, i'm not ready to change it categorically in the film of his legend number 17 everyone remembers, but also the types of shores of established myths and established ideas. he didn't, and uh, it would be strange to expect from him, maybe, uh, the movie started too early. i think that after february 22 there would be some serious changes in it, and according to the plot, the hero is a translator performed by sergey kimpo, a is looking for his older brother in the american occupation zone, and finds a guest worker girl, our citizen
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, performed by lyubov aksyonova in a raspberry beret. and hmm the presence of any complete pleases everyone, and in recent years with several brilliant performances. on actually moved into itself in the number of the minimum number of stars of the highest level. and what is important? uh star, she is the consensus uh to all even the most ferocious grumblers who hate all the bondarchuks, all the mikhalkovs and all the armless soviet screens. eh, everyone. they still do not raise their tongues to say, at least one bad word against lyubov aksyonova. uh, in which i absolutely agree with the general public, really the sweetest actress, and really capable of saving any bullshit. though even serials live life, a love story develops in the background.
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