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friends, hello this is not the format in the studio of my lovely co-host karina kross. valya karnaval behind me is a gypsy band. my name is anton lavrentyev and we are glad that you are with us today, dear friends. we have amazing guests today. i want to tell you that they wrote the soundtrack for my favorite movie. yes, what about the track itself. they wrote a huge number of hits, under which i bring down dances. and best of all, they even
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have a recorded track in space. can you imagine vladimir and sergey krestovsky a legendary band? my friends, here, in addition to the legends, there is another person who flies into the charts and never flies out of them, i share with us, what do you need? and you, by the way, what do you think, why did you combine one program, what is between you? maybe common friends we are beautiful. it's a fact, in fact, you were united, not just like that, you have a song in which there is a mention of luce
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. by the way, i don't have an orange pad. your group is named after the legendary actress umaturma, how is it that's how we sat and decided that the group would be called umaturman how did this happen? because we are at an impasse. we have gone through all the possible names. and what were the options? listen. cool well, different, in fact, there were different names and the way we had the song was already
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written like that at that time. one girl suggested saying, let's do nothing, let's call it crazy, the birds whispered to us here that you even tried to convey, and the clip that you made was comical, and the noise of the umeturma itself. she listened. i am a different story. i met her father. it's just him i was in moscow and i gave him the records. nobody knows whether he passed it on or not, but my friend on my fortieth birthday gave me a present. he somehow found thurman for him and she recorded a video congratulation on my birthday. the only thing they asked was not to publish this entry, so since then. for now, how old i am now 47 7 years ago, how in general, you came to music. have you always been musicians or have you worked in different jobs interesting all sorts of different worked in different jobs. yes, of course, very
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different in different jobs. i have always loved to sing and from childhood he always sang loudly on the streets in buses. you know, my parents were embarrassed to go because i was drinking on the bus. you know now come and start. oh, well, only came ashore, katyusha, something like that in general with us. so while i was walking to the driver. i loved watching him drive in general. i dreamed of becoming a bus driver. i sang and then, when my older brother became a celebrity in nizhny novgorod, she had her own group performing there. so i thought, can't i write a song. well, out of envy, i actually started writing guitar and started writing songs. this is how the person wanted to be. uh, the bus driver has become an incredibly popular entertainer driver. i would like to, but he had a huge number of professions. and here is a huge amount of work. you can say that lucy and now we are offering you a contest, you
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can guess who vladimir did not work with, which means that the first profession is a janitor in a kindergarten. don't look. do not look, vladimir told me let's go, and the operator of the gas station the agent selling chocolate and lemonade is the sound engineer in karaoke and the night orderly in the morgue. listen i i think i got wet, i don’t know, i’m just a suspicious person, it seems to me that it was okay, okay, then i still had a second option. uh, it's a sound engineer, because very often people who come to the musical are finally in charge think again think you confuse me so much, i'm on your side. well, as i am this is a hint, let me be the same person who is on the phone. let the director in karaoke yes, this is
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the correct answer karaoke didn’t exist back then , only wow vladimir sang me a very creepy story. continued. i worked at night do you know what a forensic morgue is? yes, they bring them there, all of them who died not of their own death, killed, dismembered , and so on, and you pull it apart at night, as if under e, jack on a stretcher and carry it along the walls. we just had such a blockage there, yes, blockages of slings. yes, and you're the only one who owes nothing then i have the next question. now it's very interesting that the result of this story was somehow reflected in the music. well , that is, maybe, in principle, this is reflected in a person when you are very so closely confronted with death, then all sorts of people cannot but be reflected.
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the loss. birds look at the huge list of professions. and how do you choose from all this, you have some kind of producer appeared or you yourself, i decided that i don’t earn anything else. only music. why did i already have a small child. he needed to be fed. we lived there somehow, quite poorly, i worked as a driver. anyone there. so i made such a decision, i think that’s it, i
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can’t, i can only earn music with anything else. i took the guitar and went around the city , all sorts of places in the city said, guys. i know how to sing, all the songs in the world are there, that is , no one helped any producers. everything was later used by some we didn’t have such words, pr. before that, there, i did something and once and everyone is talking about it. no, it was not such. the guys didn’t have social networks at all for those who are young with us. look , there was no whatsapp, no messengers at all, you know, we had pagers when i worked as a driver. we were handing out such a pickle. i can not read then the first message, such as volodya come to the car. if i've been wandering around somewhere, then i have a question for you. here, uh, you use pr. right now, at this moment, how it is, how it is happening, in general.
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i just don't really understand why i know that yes, yes, i wanted to say, why do i feel good anton? why do you need anton well, that is, you yourself are one big pr. no, i don't agree, because and when, for example, we go on the path to the press to the media ah, very often very convenient personal questions are asked. and no. it just picks me up on time. and by the way, in front of the tracks. he constantly talks to me how to answer questions they asked, and hmm how much do you earn? they asked about personal moments about personal life about some quarrels in the industry, a couple of days ago. i read at you post really wrote that you 're leaving. eh, move on to the other guys. yes, and you say goodbye to them and said to them thank you very much for the increased stardom that
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they gave you, but as it turned out. it's the same label. and he just had ribs, yurkisa. we vladimir yes, just renamed no, yes, yes. yes, it was just such a little prank and by the way. it was more like a pr-code. it was a joke. ah, not yura, not vova , didn't know about this post none of the team none of the label of my friends, all of them are at the preschool yes, no, that is, you tell more everything that happens lately. anton says, why while i 'm shooting on the old one with beyonce, you have some kind of trash happening at that moment, he does not participate and does not relate at all to what is happening. these are all real events, but this post, uh, is rather just, as you know, such a small seed about variables. and today i have already published that yes. these changes took place in the form of lus reznikov. well, you yourself, that is, consider that a huge number of artists want to get on the radio, they want to get there. e on telly, that is, they are directly striving for this, and then recently your statement. you left
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a huge holding. that is, well, it’s just like mahina took such a thing, all her songs are rocks. i don't need anything. i have the sun of monaco. no , i have always been seized with mercy. firstly, and the information that was circulating in the media is true. yes, i really took my songs, but the reason is not the one that was written; the reason is that i want to rebrand not only with the label, but also within my company, then there is lucy chabotina is going through a big rebranding, and i'm already i'll be back with new stuff. it had nothing to do with any scandals. look, you just understand us correctly, because we read all the headlines. eh, then this story happened. here is what they said that you came, in general, for the eyes. why did she do it? she knew perfectly well that i was under pressure and my mother was engaged in making me understand what was happening to him. why do i have a loss of consciousness and so on, and i just threw off the phone, just the same anton so that they can contact. i think
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when you have problems on set. you will be in first of all, to save the film pool, and at least then you will ask what happened to you, and not write a bunch of insults in telegrams and record videos like this in telegram, so for me it was all very strange, but i hope that it was just hype from her side, girls. please take care of your health, otherwise this is a beauty. follow lus, we, in turn, wanted to tell you, great. thank you for coming to us, because you promised us then. we were waiting for you, waiting, and you a voice came to us for you. i was told that we will give you, it's clear, but i just knew that. i say, i can tell you, well, tell me what type i wrote i say, say that i can just come to be silent, but it will be. well, i mean myself. yes, it's just that i saw somewhere that you were talking about the fact that you were made an offer. and i generally do this, i just didn’t say it now, in general, like
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there were rumors. and you, that is, somewhere that you said about it. in the end, there was no offer. so are you free or what? m-m for love everything is fine. and i just decided that now earlier. just i’ll tell you, i used to love to put my personal life on display , it’s told , then anton appeared in your life . uh -huh well, here you are a young man, he never says, let 's show a photo, how let's take a photo, and he is a public or non-public person. well, yes, i understand you, the heart is occupied by love. all is well. everything is fine. i heard that lucy e you originally wanted the song sun of monaco release in hand version. is it true. yes, she was originally in the style of grinding and already at
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the studio. we just for fun decided to make it pop, and made it in a format between dual-lip and cheap. what a surprise. we decided to leave it like that for the whole album. i just have hip-hop r&b. everything, in some generally such gloomy tones, and here it means that the only song on the album is positive pop. this is the sun of monaco and it shoots, which means that the guys have prepared. you could say it's a surprise. the sun of monaco why tell me we have anthrope when your eyes shine brightly in this makes sense, but if you are not around, than the sun is familiar to me for what tell me, the moon is calling for your look, brightly. it doesn't make sense to you.
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a self-oiled city, i was every second in clothes from broken courts from the sea, but we are not one of those who will remain time to judge, maybe tomorrow they will also forget us, that everything is different with you. you, i am a separate world in the entire universe, i ask you, only one hold me with all your might. as strong as possible. i'll take you with me. why do i need the sun? what do i tell us from
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the trail, when your eyes shine brightly in this yours is nicer to you than the sun is monaco to me , and now tell me behind our path, when your eyes shine, there is no bright meaning for you around. listen, but this legendary super mega dance with a pen, yes, which they danced, it seems to me, all russians are just all but who invented it? you yourself. ah, it so happened that we were waiting in the dressing room, the motor was delayed, and the guys from the office write to me. they say it's urgent. first vid. i turn on the camera. you can even see my bewildered face. there is a very long such hard before cotton. i'm so waiting and such. i just didn't know what to do.
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it was done for fun from the fact that it was necessary to make just an original video, and it was an improvisation that grew into a trend and how many millions and i don’t know how many millions of vids, but it seems to me that it captured the whole world. this is tyn-tyn about the most important thing, that at that moment the cancer didn’t come out at all, and they already wrote to me in the comments, god , how tired this song is, it hasn’t even come out yet. wait, i'll tell you more. mom sent me a video and says, you know this girl. i'm such a problem, i write, yes, i know, he says tell me that it's very good. so i use this. you know how this song has captured all generations, traffic police officers stop me and tell me when we can expect new hits from the guys. tell me, you now define yourself as a format. eh, young audience or how informal? of course not. well, how can we be the format of the young public? well, here is something little man
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sitting. recently , a girl approached me at a corporate party. we played the program, she such. and you can sing a song, it seems, i’m looking , or there are 10 years old, 11. i say, how do you know such a song at all, why is it such an adult song? she says , you don’t know, now it’s a trend for this song, and i wanted to ask you about my favorite song, please, give the boy some favorite song, a track for the night watch movie. tell me how it happened timur mambetov called me and said that we urgently need a song for the film that is about to be released so that i can come to their studio. i looked at them drafts at the studio. he gave me a task. how it should look like, you need to retell what will be there and write some kind of chorus for all the special songs they wrote for well, like santa yes, well, she flew in. well, that is, she
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i have another question right away. how did you film crip in space, you filmed the video on the same camera, which then filmed the challenge. stunned is a very strange story. to be honest, i myself don’t know how it happened, because such a song of the star appeared and somehow it got to roscosmos and an astronaut, sergey korsakov, who wanted to do something like this in space, worked at the orbital station. and then someone had an idea, i don’t even know who had such an idea for this song to shoot a video on the iss and a guitar was sent to him by a cargo ship. he is there recorded on it the sound voice recorded. moreover , in general, this happened for the first time in the history of russian soviet cosmonautics in general, so that a clip was filmed on the iss, moreover, an astronaut. he sang his part of the video right there on the iss because he says it's very noisy there. there is no way to record sound. he did everything there in a
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recording studio of some kind, i don’t know what he put there. yes, or where did he turn there, and in general, for half a year, he lived on the iss and shot these shots for the video during off-hours, and besides, by the way, the clips in space, the guys wrote soundtrack, you know what the series is for? well , because i really like it, guys, by the way, 12 children for two anton how many tins does each have or does someone have more children for two? everyone, and how did it happen synchronously, i 'll tell you, but did you want it that way or did something get out of control? hmm something happened. your life with music, like fathers or not? some
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connect, some don't. he is the youngest seven months old guys i have five girls one guy five guys. i have a six-year-old boy that doesn't suit you, but they teach you how to cook trends now on social networks or no cook trends. yes, to their songs, no, they have not yet been taught. we can do it right now here and now i have prepared a super mega trend and we can win. uh, again the hearts of millions and millions of views and lucky are you ready? no, you need to get up, we will dance. so everyone, brilliant again, just
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twist the pigtails praskovya girl from the moscow region with sadness. this is again alone and again girl praskovya from under the nose of muscovy behind the curtain, what is she doing? she is crying at the window and na-na-na. -on-on-on vladimirovna in that you just stood the whole track, but on on on on on on three times and i will turn with you the last three times. come on, come on. i am from the moscow region through the unitary again one girl in dispersal from the suburbs of carp weeping heavily once more
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these are the surprises we have here my friends. you know, it's summer, our meeting was definitely destined. i realized this when i saw the rhinestones on lucy's jacket, because well, that's all, it looks like some kind of reincarnation of some very interesting bands. i suggest right now in real time that you and i can cook a new hit with this interesting team. there is such an interesting motive that i had today. in the morning, i played the ukulele, which was taken from my son. she uh, and he said you don't have to don't he didn't say he he was in the pool. here so here i sketched a few words. perhaps now, thanks to these bright mothers , we will change them, but nevertheless, the song suggests that it should be about summer. yes, that's why we immediately tell people summer. but then you need the first word in the summer, you can then i’ll keep all my secrets,
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but i’ll put it aside. goodbye summer. come on, let's dress your line. and i was afraid to approach like that, and then you can buy us the last two tickets. yes, to the concert of jared leto to the concert of jared. can we kiss somewhere? maybe there kiss somewhere me and you me and you everything class. but
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and it seems that he wanted a happy ending and everyone hoped so, but something more. and i don’t need anyone but you if the whole world is against us. you have and even if you suddenly chase after us, you will shoot and feed cartridges, they say, happiness loves silence. and i i want her to relax crying all the time crying all constantly say happiness loves silence. yes i want her to relax. i poster all constantly loves
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silence. i want. this is an easy money podcast, i'm its host mikhail khanov today our guest is anatolyevich sokolov, a russian scientist, academician of the russian academy of sciences, director of the federal rural center for management informatics and, importantly, dean of the moscow state university faculty of computational mathematics and cybernetics. hello, let's start with who they are it people. here is some classification.
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we can say that today we are all it people, as soon as we had smartphones, in which we now have them, we all had to be able to use tools, information technologies, to be able to use these gadgets to understand how they work. otherwise, we simply will not fit into the modern rhythm and lifestyle with those people who have associated their profession with this phenomenon with these technologies. with these tools, which actually create them, these technologies, including those created, of course this, i think, is the most, of course, the fundamental layer of it people who develop methods in our time, they were called engineers. engineers, including, i think i still mean scientists scientists, who are scientists who, on the basis of fundamental mathematical results
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of deep penetration into these mathematical results, create those methods that then turn into technologies into tools. here, which we use the other layer - these are the people who skillfully use these tools to solve some practical problems. tasks, this is the layer that is actually considered by many and not those who write programs to it specialists. those who create gadgets are automatic platforms on which the main mass manifestation of these same methods and technologies is based, and this, of course, is the main thing for it people, but there are also other it people who use this tool in their daily lives. well, it's probably anyone . whom do you cook cabernetics - this is
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part of the moscow university of moscow university, this is first and foremost. such a traditional fundamental classical university, therefore, of course, our main task is still to respond to the challenge and train scientists of those people who are those specialists who are at least potentially ready to conduct scientific research. we teach this guys. so i would like to ask a few words about the most famous graduates or some graduates in the mc, because i recently learned that vyacheslav nikolaev graduated from the mc as the president of mts, there are well-known scientists who head such iconic academic institutes, for example, sergei mikhailovich abramov, director of the institute of software systems in pereslavl-zalessky, a very interesting institute for a long time, which not
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only conducted scientific research, but also trained specialists in this field. but here i am sitting in front of you, too, the director. uh, as you said, the federal investigation center for informatics management of the russian academy is one of the largest academic institutions of our profile well in silicon valley graduates. vk is the main guests very much. here i did not silicon valley should be singled out, but there is a rating among job givers, here in our field, information technology graduates of the vmc are in the top 10 of this rating. there is no one else in the world among russian universities in this ranking. no, it is clear that mathematics is a science that is not getting younger, but it is and is, but at the same time, there is certainly development in it, as in any science. and here's a question related to this.
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what is the average age of a teacher or mathematics on vk, for example, we will be teachers in general, because it is difficult separate math, he teaches programming or some other subject, average age is about 45 years old. but these are young, very young, and in fact, we have been paying a lot of attention to this lately, as far as russian. they fight for your graduates. you don't let them go. it's just that we learned, yes, and please, guys, swim, not only don't let go, but we do it. well, let's say professional training not only as a specialist, but also as people, uh, socially oriented, we we are engaged in the very first courses with our guys and the choice is not only a profession , but which apparently took place once he became a student of the vmc, but the place of work is also one of the tasks for us, so we hold
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an event where we invite future works. give them, starting from the second year, starting from the second year and among all these large companies without exception. uh, the faculty of the vmc is listed as one of the main means of fighting for your students motivates degrees . all of them are present. well, in the presence cult, there can be a variety of joint laboratories, a joint curriculum, where not only university teachers work with the guys, but also technical staff who are already engaged in applied applications so that it is not burdened with any future obligations. here you have to go there to work there, and even under such conditions, everyone is interested and definitely definitely not only go to the company, by the way, that is, all the giants
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are interested. in fact, we want which they will hang already their own, and here one cannot do without the understanding that today, eh? eh, the economy as a whole about industry , first of all, cannot do without the tools that we call information technology. you probably have experience of working before the balloon system, which was adopted after. well, i ’ll say by my own example that a special system was generally needed. that's why, when i hear, all these modern names are favorable and the magistracy still confuses them, to be honest, because we had such a system, we completed university courses in 3 years, and then we worked in institutes for 3 years. academy of sciences here. i personally had an institute for the problems of mechanics in the southwest. that's 2 years. we worked there , in which we received part-time work, even yes, if we were sixth-year experimenters or theorists,
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we wrote a diploma, and it was a full-fledged scientific work, and it was often based on our diploma. here, how do you feel about the system. eh, the one that exists now. from which we are going to refuse how russia and why then we return to the blouse of the system - this is not 4 + 2, this is not the most important characteristic of the main feature - this is the measurement of the level of knowledge that you have received the amount of knowledge that you have received. yes, just learning. yes, for each subject there is a so-called credit unit in different countries. they can be called differently, but any person who opens a diploma sees the name of the discipline and the number. he, in principle, understands the level. that is, it is the unified coordinate system. yes. it is clear to everyone in the amount of information that you betrayed. well
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of course, the grades you got. in the process of learning, here is the essence of the bologna system, and the essence of it is quite good, that we are coming out of there and that now voices are so active from all sides that we refuse it a and, most likely, refuse the possibility of accepting it as a two-stage one. that is the topics of education sphere plus two. this seems to me the most unfortunate choice. that is, one could choose one of the aspects is the measurability of the amount of information, well, that is, what you were taught at the university but do not change, and most importantly, do not take breaks in education. that's right, that's where we're going. and this is indeed correct. and uh, it's high time to do it, also four plus two at the vmc studies, how good it is everywhere all day long. uh, at
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moscow university, not all faculties have switched to two steps. well, let's say the mechanic of the political faculty did not pass five years in it. six six years yes, but starting from the twentieth year from the twentieth year. we have made the decision to return to continuous education. that is, in this case it is called, we have already advanced quite far on this path, but this path is quite complicated, but it is correct, this break in education does not allow preparing those specialists who are able to engage in science and engineering and practice and practice . that is , it turns out that the key to success is we restore the continuity of education throughout. even if five, a is better than 6 years, and
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we leave system a for assessing the level of knowledge according to that common unified coordinate system that it is accepted all over the world this way, it seems to me that this is an ideal option, and the number of years depends on the specialty and i remind you that in the soviet union, not only a five-year education was out of a six-year one, it still studies for 7 years and now people of creative professions had 4 years. so years need to be determined. in the specialty okay let's so here's our whole audience, you know, how everyone wants to know. that's good. you are so cool to us now, you tell everything, let's say we have it there, we have smart kids who will go there. what is the competition now by the way, it's very difficult. but if you normalize it, here is the past. yes, the understanding of competitions is going off scale in general.
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about five people in place is a very good competition. i think that you should be proud, of course, much more, but now a person is pride. i thought now you will say 2-3-5 - this is already, well, a real success. not this way. and this despite the fact that we stand out among other faculties and universities of universities. the e of our profile is that we require four use results i.e. russian mathematics, informatics and physics. and today's exam is called very deep. yes, and mathematics is obvious, or is it that ordinary mathematics requires russian mathematicians and something to choose from physics or computer science. no, we demand everything, we return to the question from the very beginning, artificial intelligence is dangerous for humanity as a whole and for
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it people. no more than any other mathematics, when you and i solve the same navesoks equations using the mind of samarsky or yakut runes? we don’t care about whether these very methods of rungikut or the difference are dangerous for us, so samara why did we suddenly take care, so to speak, it’s dangerous or not to us the methods of artificial neural networks, which are based on the same linear to choose your probability is very simple, that we come to the conclusion that the person himself is, that is, the very danger that can be laid in the development of artificial security intelligence you understand, if you do not consider the dangers, e existence itself, why did i ask? why did these 2,000 people sign a letter to stop development and take control of, uh, the development of artificial intelligence, you need to carefully
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see what they actually asked for, because they asked to take control, so that it doesn’t work out, history and e, and not develop within the framework of any separate state that has a certain capacity in order to have different reasons for these people up to the most banal, the same elon musk, he initially stood at the origins of the same openai company. uh-huh well here's the gpt chat that is now. yes, we later sold our share, maybe he is now worried that his money has gone to good applications. who knows what to say. well, personally, i don't see any danger when zimov wrote his three laws of robotics in the sixties, i think. yes, i don't remember exactly the year, but even then humanity was concerned about the fact, well, let's say, it's better than his minds. what can threaten and how can the development of artificial intelligence be brought under control. that is , you think that all these processes are absolutely controllable, and firstly, i believe that they
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have nothing to do with the human intellect. bye. perhaps, according to that level of development, the rate of development of counting capacity, in in the end, if you want ah, how many more decades? probably they will be related to artificial intelligence. that's right, why is michael here the human brain is so unique and emotions are so important and, let's say, an uncalculated emotional component that it cannot be repeated, firstly, we must still talk not about the brain, or at least not only in the brain, but for a person as a whole, everything is based on some kind of physical, well, in the general case, processes, but until now a person has not even come close to the concept of how brain works. it is the same physiologists , physiologists, who are aware of this. yes, we see something, but we are infinitely far away. i
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seem to understand how it works. i agree with you, so answer the question 20 30 200 or 300 years. i never answered never. this is a very worthy answer. and at least he's clear. i really love answers like this. this is the answer, math. i can only note here that please note how quickly the topics with unmanned vehicles were curtailed all over the world and in russia , of course, development continues, but nonetheless less, how hot this topic is gone and such simpler tasks have already begun to be solved there, like agricultural machinery. yes, there are combine harvesters, we have companies there in russia, the academic pilot who does this, or trams and electric trains, and so on. that is, where it is easier to arrange, uh, automation of agricultural production. it's not just a combine. these are sensors on tree trunks that provide the required amount of moisture, and fertilizers and so on. and this is really a huge
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benefit, there is 2-3%, e efficiency with smelting uh complex, so to speak, there uh alloys. this is also a colossal benefit if we apply the methods that we call artificial, those innovations that are now in russia, such as the management of drones of technology in relation to road transport. i've always felt weird. uh, it seems to me much more effective not to betray the human qualities of the car and make it. how to say to a person like, well, without a person it is much more efficient to build differently, in general, the principle of controlling a moving object. yes, that's when we begin to endure, then we immediately balk. the same ones as these technologies that actually detect
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achilles. there are many manifestations of work since the evening, for example, here is the gpt chat. it's the same with speech. we were taught in school that speech can be written and oral. so here , working with the written jesus in russia, there are similar developments. right away, that is, here it is by no means possible to belittle our capabilities of our competencies in the implementation part. yes, in the end, in russia, the federal communications center for mathematics management, the authors are now working here. well, such achievements. you can name a lot. you and i, uh, understand, and i hope our audience understands that in the short time given to our program to discuss
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exactly. here is a very important question, that money can not only be invested and there you can get this very passive income, but also active income and that's it. we do our own work, and very interesting work with creativity , science, and so on. you can use it. that same e is heard by all topics and we are with you discussed. what is the specific role of the departments of russian mathematics and cybernetics of moscow state university discussed how does our government support this industry? so what? eh, in principle, money is not the main thing in a person's life. and what is the main thing, what is needed for happiness , we live in a country and in a society that makes a person happy, you need not to give up this feeling and not run away, you need to understand. finally, that you and i live happily in a good place in a good society. i look forward to continuing
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