well, let's split it into two blocks. yes, it's either a treadmill, and i'm his simulator and yes, an american ered simulator, which replaces weight lifting such as a barbell and there dumbbells. yes, everything is as you say. we continue our conversation about the physical preparation of the cosmonauts with the trainer alexander serdyuk. i am anton shlapper. that's how i think you are. well, having already experience, yes, and having already analyzed more than one crew, how does the indicator improve or worsen over a six-month flight, right? the question is so interesting. well, for example, you get data e he flew away or, for example, the first days he was engaged. he had certain weight lifting there and you see what starts to move out, that is , to show it or worsen over a six-month flight. let's just say that work in space definitely improves comanauto, but the physical condition of the body for ordinary

life on earth. well, and also some sports physical activities, of course, it becomes less suitable, let's say a lot. the skills of those that we even here do not control absolutely, well, there is bipedalism. uh, just out of position standing to take and sit down, for example, something that we don’t even think about here. all this is not used in space and, accordingly, neural connections. they both arise and are destroyed. that's why the control of the body, of course , suffers as far as muscle structures are concerned. yes, they are partially lost, especially those that they are used. therefore, in fact, we run and jump and do weights so that our cartilage tissues are pumped and the bone does not lose a lot of calcium. well, that is, everything that is on board - this is intended, after all, to stop the negative factors of space flight. well, of course, they cannot be completely avoided. i think you're great too. remember your feelings.

remember, besides resetting the indicators? well, for example, scales, the way we raise the frequency, yes, we do approaches somewhere , well, i don’t know. we record a month on video, how we perform certain exercises and a specialist needs to be correct or do them, therefore , there is always control. and most importantly, so that it does not hurt not to get injured, which, in in principle, theoretically, perhaps, therefore your task is to save us. well, more or less, so that we can be there when we return to earth, so that, well, we can restore as quickly as possible. we talked about baikonur about your first trip, but you were lucky. you've been to more than one cosmodrome. not only at baikonur. yes, it was not like that. it's been a long time since your wife, she is kikina, the first of the russians, flew on an american ship. that is , no one did it for him. and naturally. you accompanied her to houston, then to florida , the very start. yes, that is, before the start. she also

i continued to study under your strict guidance, of course, his, probably, ip juice . she was always in my group and then i also accompanied this crew from the beginning. this is the iss-68 crew - this is the training of the crew with commander sergei prokopiev, who is now in space dmitry petelin. the board is also an engineer, which we have in space here, but then there was a rearrangement and anna went to the dragons. so i already met the guys there, but also the accompaniment from the preparation remained on me. we were also in touch while she was in space as well as with all the astronauts met her. yes, i met her. uh, johnson space in the middle. that is, i'm already hmm yes , yes, it was houston. this is the training center, cosmonauts are only american astronauts. that's right, i met her there. well,

you've met her. how great, as a husband, i ’m not going anywhere, of course, but that’s what they said was exactly her third, as a specialist she was absolutely on a business trip. yes, of course, and you will fly. it’s not just to meet her, but to help her, she didn’t immediately fly to russia for some there a couple of weeks for sure yes, 10 days 10 days, she is recovering. after that, she was already on the plane. yes, to moscow with these transfers. yes, with one change. we got to russia, to moscow, where we already met her and continued rehabilitation activities. you say you'll meet, you 're only in houston, yes, she made a draft in florida yes, why didn't you end up in that place, i know the doctor was with her of ours. center for the flow of astronauts to take it? why were you not there? you and your husband and a senior coach are a teacher

, and you were specially sent there to make her meet and recover as soon as possible. yes, you were not on that ship, it happens. i was just on the task force, a on the task force. everyone has. well, as if its purpose, its place and its role. of course, we adhere to this all, so the doctor is mandatory. this is the first crew doctor who meets you and always looks, that is, the state and already some. if necessary, takes uh measures, but that is, during her return and landing. well splashdown, yes, it turns out you were i was already waiting in houston. yes, i've been to houston. i was waiting for johnson spicer, but since my role was a little mixed, and all the families went to the airport. where did the plane arrive, on which the crew was brought, and therefore i also left for this airport. i got on this

plane and we are already together with rusana serebryakova uh, these are the crew doctors. yes , together we already took anya out, put her in the car and then moved exactly to the place of our rehabilitation by coincidence. do you remember when you saw her. about after six months of her flight. here she is back real astronaut. you know, i think that there is probably, uh, such a range of emotions here. eh, how collected you are, as a specialist, but at the same time, of course, you just rejoice, like, well, i don’t know, like a child, when you don’t see a loved one for a very long time and meet him, they were jealous. here i let her go for six months of the station. to astronauts astronauts, well, we have very warm friendly relations, in fact, everyone has them, and therefore somehow i don’t know, even

the question somehow didn’t arise like that. here i don't know, well now i don't know the collective, with which we work. he is probably more, really so very warm, quite dear, and there are completely different relationships. so we talked about returning, then rehabilitation begins with us. so there, too, should be the same coach, personally, the coach, whose crew, like the doctor, of course. tell me about this stage. after returning. yes, after returning, we see, we are used to seeing that the astronauts themselves do not go and literally get it. the capsules don't matter. it will be either dragon or our union, right on the hands would be planted on chairs. and then we do not see them practically going. if they go, then they must be supported, either by a coach or a doctor. yes, yes, this is actually an astronaut. either the astronaut may be in a fairly good physical condition, that is, muscles and so on, but

at the same time he cannot walk accurately, but for the reason that he has simply weaned his body has forgotten how it is done in an automatic machine. that is , neural connections have not yet been restored to this action, and it has not yet turned into automatism, but constantly keep everything under control. especially after the flight, let's say from the station to the ground, the descent is quite a heavy thing, we give energetic. this is so , therefore, of course, at first you just need to give support to a person so that his vestibular system comes into alignment and gets used to it. i will remember. e even after the fourth flight there. yes, like experience. i quickly recovered, that is, and it seemed to me that i didn’t need support, but all the time i’m here, i feel the elbow of my doctor and it was the coach that worked out that way if you go. to the stairs yes, i see a step, i lift my foot and go if i start to get distracted and talk to someone. yes, i kind of raise my leg, but automatically

the step is something 14 cm, or how much according to the samples, but i forget. for these six months, that there is still gravity and i do not have enough. just a little bit, as soon as i turned away, i started talking something la-la-la with someone, you definitely catch on this step with your toe. i remember this too. after each flight, it seems normal to climb something like that, there are 3-4 steps and in dispensaries, but occasionally touched, so, of course, we need a coach always like that. well, the rehabilitation is divided into two large stages. yes, this is an acute period, when only the astronaut came down fresh. it still smells like space. star, uh, 3 weeks approximately. yes, this is 21 days, as a rule, at this stage we do not load much. uh, the musculoskeletal system, that is, a lot every day every day, which is heated up specially by the astronauts obosses , uh, is practically normal. and here he is 50% success. yes, it is easier to recover in

water. well, starting a little. i don't know how to walk, probably not to run to walk. yes, yes, of course, the cuttings of the terenkur are already the second stage, uh, 21 days. yes, the crew, again with the coach and the doctor, fly out. well, in some sanatorium. yes, in principle, the usual number of astronauts, who wants where exactly well, when it's the sea in summer, yes, sometimes it's winter. but in winter we don't ski right away. and where was he in rehab now rehab. anya took place in pyatigorsk, we were there in a sanatorium. and fmba in our fmba, well, it's good there walk in pyatigorsk uphill from the mountain. that is , the most important thing to enter is water, of course, and mineral water. she's not literal. uh, for a few weeks there, i don't know, i was just in this sanatorium this year before your

rehabilitation. that is, he himself looked like there, drank some water. yes, they just told us. yes , he told me that the pros and cons of these places. i'm just starting to remember. first time. i went through rehab karla clarach. well , this is an old one, well, not soviet, but soviet time. uh, the resort where our workers always went. well, as abroad after all, this is abroad, then twice was in greece on the criteria. yes, i, too, once with my first official crew. eh, too. we went to crete to greece, probably, also there, because astronauts always share their experience with each other, where it's good. as a feeling, as emotions, as a state, and therefore we are already in your footsteps, it turns out that we also went forty-seventh for you, this is a rest. so i know for sure that for me this is a vacation. well, rehab. that is, i worked for half a year in space with a clear conscience

and then i get a massage. i drink water i'm walking. this is, well, this is not a vacation for you, it turns out. this is not a vacation for me. i have this job, but since i do what i love, i don’t have to, as it were, never work. i just always do what i love . uh, i really like my job, my profession, so you can say, yes, i'm on vacation too. i just have a few more. interesting wonderful people, well , we talked on the ceiling. yes, anya applied . you tried to get into the detachment, cosmonauts well, maybe later. and yes, if you have such a thought now, we have an open sets. yes, now they have been made open, so it's very cool that the cosmos, to be honest, yes, i tried to pass where you got me hooked. well, obviously not physical education. no

, not in physical education, oddly enough, they hit me in the teeth. well, can it be taken out? yes, yes, i think you've already cured everything is done. yes, absolutely there is now. well, yes chances are all selection is an interesting thing. i think that if there is an opportunity, it is necessary to participate, yes, so that later you will not regret that you did not participate. we continue the conversation with the coach alexander sedyuk. tell me what you remember most from your trip to america from your trip to america i went there with a purpose, and i think the highlight, of course, for me was, uh, the start of the q5 tregan with my american colleagues. i mean coaches. you communicated familiarly. yes, we are familiar, we talked about how they train their astronauts, wards of the training itself. no. e is different. they have something better. yes

, there are likely to be differences. i heard. this is a country in that there is a difference. well, because we still communicate and what kind of work we have do they have something good, what good can be adopted from them, what can be adopted? i think that well, yes, there is always something to learn from foreign colleagues, these are some very interesting crossfit things. they have a lot of work for team building. it is also interesting when they are teams of astronauts who compete with each other. well, these are more such competitions, probably, gaming ones are not quite right such that you need to win. here are the commands. of course, they are also divided there periodically in different ways, but it's very cool. this is very interesting is teamwork and associated with physical activity. i think it's great. and perhaps it will become more widespread in our country too. we just said that you have e. uh, wish plans for the future, yes go to this astronauts and maybe you

will be the first space family to appear on the iss such have plans. you discuss the plan yourself, of course, this is how she was here, she told us about it. that would be very, very cool. it would be really cool about that, that's just such a plan. here straight to the exercise, that is uh uh, i don't know how to plan a two-space workout, family. cool i think yes, i think it would be very cool. how did you meet? so not about space, of course, but an abstract topic. yes, and i'll tell you, we met at the competition. so we could still get to know each other, and the competition was in rafting for the authors. this is rafting along mountain rivers on inflatable boards. well, they are rafts, that's what they are called. that is, it’s not who, to whom it was, all the more so, so you understand the women’s teams , the men’s, or there are some funny yes teams separately, the male category is separately female, well

, as in everyone they fought among themselves, no, we were not direct competitors. we are just from different cities. and somehow it so happened that we arrived at these competitions, the city of the city of gorno-altaisk, this is the capital and separately from it there are locations on the katun river there is the hegumen threshold, where the cup of russia is held . the russian championship that is, these were difficult times. yes, yes, this good level of competition is rated enough to say correctly what she was doing. uh, it was not just in this boat. yes, of course, she was athletic in this boat. as far as i remember, she was even the captain, well, for some time, yes, yes, for sure, she was the captain of the novosibirsk team, and at that moment she was sitting in a different squad. well, also like athletes, from time to time they go there and in this there is something to the club. a no, not you, not her

, but not on the team, to be honest, i don’t remember, we don’t either. something didn't work then. here are the medals. well , at least well, at least, uh, i think that in these competitions, probably the most important prize, each of us received. yes, we met. we continued our acquaintance communication and subsequently. we seem to be doing some very interesting things together. but tell those people who also want to join the lubrication squad. what to do now. what exercises? you would advise. well, not just for you to shine, so that they come prepared. well, okay. we are there to pull ourselves up 12 times, we need to run, swim, sit down. here's an opportunity than here's what you would say pay more attention to pay more attention to physics. i think that any athlete

of some even narrowly focused specialization. it is already 50% ready. well , of course, a versatile approach to your physical fitness. that is, if there are any questions about swimming. or there, on the run , all these standards are presented in the public domain. you can easily go to the cpc website to look, or even on the internet. uh, when an abortion is announced, there will be a document, even now you can already see it. i don't think they will undergo any major changes. therefore, one can easily rely on the fact that it was already up to test yourself to test. and where there are some shortcomings, of course, try to strengthen them. and it is better to work with trainers, after all, teachers, because they are professionals yes , professional ones, because not every person, as it were, can train himself. and if we are to be honest to the end, then the coach-teacher will always train the athlete better than he himself, otherwise the olympic champions would not have coaches. they would prepare themselves and put them on

pedestals. here you are sasha, you have been working for a long time space industry. you perfectly understand what the risk of space flight means, you were at the launch, right? have you seen this huge rocket? did you see it? the start itself was afraid , did you have any feeling at that moment, the moment of the launch of the space rocket? uh , probably, more can be called excitement, yes , the excitement of experience, but uh, there is probably no fear, as such, very interesting. eh, also the experience of us. uh, literally a day before the rocket launch. it was the families of the astronauts of our cosmonaut who brought to her and us showed the rocket practically. even so. here, yes. this is how i see you, that is, i stood near the rocket and could look at it , it was on the launch pad, where it was already, but its launch was delayed. and yes, there was one transfer due to weather conditions. here, well, it’s not

critical, there it’s literally a couple of days and everything is fine again. very, very cool that you could walk up to the rocket right together to look at it. what yes indeed. here it exists, and then we have already observed when the start of excitement. yes, of course, from the very beginning, when people get out, wave, get into cars and go to their launch pad to their rocket and until the moment they enter the station, of course. all this in such an emotional mixture. let's say. so it's a joy, of course , because it's a journey of 10 years. this is a lot. yes, this is just such a segment of life. let's say. well , you remember the first call of its composition, of course, and when it happened, and it happened from the moment we started flying. they are about a day old. yes,

a little more. that's a little more than a day they flew. here and uh, then already when they called me back in america she said yes, everything is cool. everything is great. yes, well, that is, i remembered this phone. there is also a special phone. no, you can't call him there. no there no until you know the missed one, what will i call you back? i don't know, i don't think you're confusing him with anything. it's just that when you see a number that starts with a plus one there. it's not quite usual, at least for russia, and you understand that someone is in space, then you are unlikely to drop it. yes, really very good. let's fantasize. how do you think how professional trainer teacher, what will a person do in space in 50 years uh considering that 60 we denied our space era. that's about the same leap forward, given how

technology is developing now. mm, what in general? yes, our humanity is more and more gaining the speed of development, we fantasize. yes , i think that some of the next 30 years. this is a landing on it already with the setting up of some kind of stationary bases there, or at least near lunar stations. uh, such on the moon yes, yes on lunar orbit precisely and further advancement to mars. i think we should get there. it must happen. i'm, uh, not sure if there's going to be some kind of apple blossom station there, but i think someone will make it to mars. let's hope. let's hope hope. we hope so, unfortunately, time flew by very quickly at cosmic speed. visiting today. i had alexander serdyuk, a senior coach, a teacher

in physical training at the cosmonaut training center, and anton shkappers. and it was space history podcast. all episodes of the podcast project. lad. you can look at the site of the first channel one tv point ru call to home phone apartment no hare. why are they sticking around? hello today, we gathered our thoughts about the manipulation prank and the information field in general vladimir kuznetsov alexey stolyarov, better known as vovan and lexus, i am vladimir left. yes, we are starting. please tell me, i would not like to ask you 1101 questions today. how do you manage? yes? let's talk about the information field in general. yes

what it is, how to live in it , fight and so on. and you know what my pre-question is. but where do you get your information from? i mean, not for getting the news. well, i mostly probably have telegram chats. yes, and plus, if you need to find out some somewhat alternative information, there is twitter, but it’s clear that every telegram channel. still, but, well, someone is interested and it is necessary to filter. where are you from? well, similarly, i just try to use all possible sources from federal television channels. e telegram youtube channels and, accordingly, something somewhere in the middle for a hospital, information by me. here, uh, that's where it comes from. what i try is different, exactly different, well, of course,

you work professionally in the genre, yes, after all, but you agree that we are today. and this, in general, is a blow to classical sociology. yes , we are different today. not only there by gender, age and so on. but mainly by sources of information, and therefore here is the sociology of marketing, which was once based precisely on gender some age stories or social groups there. yes, they collapsed today, because, relatively speaking , there are some teenagers in the same class. yes, they are. who have favorite bloggers about the existence of each other's bloggers, they may simply not know, is this true or not. and yes, it is, let's say, and even take a television internet audience. here is a classic example. if they compare, then the internet and television. well, let's say, here, when we also often go to those or all sorts of television broadcasts, and from this subscribers in social networks they do not increase, because if ours we will hope, yes call to call people.

well, let's say the same audience is still, well, on tv, it's somewhat aged, probably, and the youth, which, let's say, reads us on telegram channels or that they don't really watch tv on vkontakte on youtube, well, and, if we take the classic tiktok, which used to work in russia there, there are completely different opinion leaders for young people for there 614-16 years old people, about whom we don’t know further at all, but they have million millions views. see question. so you say, other opinion leaders. that the problem is even more radical, that it's not that other opinion leaders? here i repeat again. here in one class, he is eighth graders there. yes, they can have favorite heroes about existence, which is the hero of another, yes, their classmates. people may not know, because this has never happened. well, yes, segmentation is serious. and if we return even to the experience that was before now, then relatively speaking, some tenth grader, he could listen to the same music as

and relatively speaking, the other person is older he is 10 years of conventionally rock music. yes, there are these rock leaders, that is, the tastes were, in fact, not much changed over the years. and now even half a year, if people there have a significant difference in this generation, that is, in half a year some new leaders appear. well , the importance of leaders is falling. i've heard pr people even say the departments of the media space, that is, the leaders of public opinion are breaking. yes, if earlier a lot was built on them, there is advertising, marketing and so on, then today. i just i understand that their value is decreasing. well, here's the power, maybe their speeds, about which we talked, like that's the story there with the butterfly. yes, from a doll. yes, literally butterflies. today you are a star and a plus. it’s the youth who thinks that here we are we began to receive some money and big ones there, and millions of views all this forever earlier it can stay for 10 years, let’s say, it’s stable there, and now a year will pass, it’s all good a year, and that’s all, and

all this will end. but look. well, if you try to analyze in general, a what infan-space if i represent today? i recently could not stand it, i also wrote in my telegram about one situation, when a everyone began to discuss events that had not yet taken place, based on well, unverified sources. and so they imagined a lot of things for themselves, then the event happened, it turned out to be completely different and people, instead of admitting that they were wrong when predicting this event, because they did not check the sources, they are not ready to admit it. and experts or experts. i don't know and they start making up conspiracy theories. they say that in fact we were not shown everything. not everything was said there and so on. i somehow exclaimed the rules of three sources, but in the end it was time and one of my colleagues wrote, well, some kind of naive romantic is all. absolutely in the past , the information field has changed radically , no one checks anything. well, i don't want to believe, but what do you think? well, yes, no one

checks, and rather the media make some kind of picture of these expectations. yes, i immediately came up with an example with the so-called the counter-offensive of the ukrainian army, because there was a counter-offensive rather in the western media and for the western audience, probably, there was just such a picture in my head that now , it means that such a wave should go to clear those bad russians there, crimea donbass everything, here, as it were, but a few expectations. well, they didn’t materialize, to put it mildly, and the question is what will these western western media continue to do there , how should they continue to promote their audience, somehow explain this, but do something so that they continue to believe in it, tell me a here a a. well, here, we still teach there, but at journalism departments, and students from a journalist are obliged to check the facts, but practice tells us that the facts today should be checked by a reader or a listener. here's how anyway. in reality, this

change happened or didn’t happen, you need to double-check it yourself or not. well, the standards of journalism, firstly, are gone. as such , such a term new media appeared conditionally, that is, the classical genre to which everyone used to get used to it is no longer there, and therefore it is generally a question of the faith of that, of course, of course what the reader wants to believe, because, as they say, and people don't want to know the truth , people want to think they know the truth. and here it is exactly the same. each media outlet has its own audience of conspiracy theorists or something else, it is useless to prove something to these people. they read what they like, what they internally agree with. but in fact, yes, indeed, journalism is a profession that should rely on analytics to check the facts; now there is no

such demand, unfortunately, well, i would say so all the same it would not be desirable, so to say indiscriminately to say that nobody checks anything. yes, it’s clear that it checks, although i can also tell you that when it’s approaching me , it’s much easier to make a mistake even to check. yes, yes, now even let's give a simple recent example, conditionally speaking, what also rushed through telegram channels, through many respected official ones yeah, the fact that the president's press secretary, peskov, said that he would have an address that would affect the future of russia, everyone began to publish it at home. finally up to speeches are already all in detail. everyone knows the holding, which has not yet been. yes, but it turned out that this is a source in general, which directly comes up with some fakes, and now everyone began to rely on it. well, or how often, let's say. here is such a comic media panorama, yes, and still come across. how many

years has some serious media serious money that has been published? yes, but how can i explain this, well, i can understand, when i somehow got a panorama, it means that it was not my students who drew attention to my modest person write. did you say that? i say guys, well, at least you look. what is the reason for this? it's not that critical. today we perceive information. well, also , probably, what the media is hunting right now. for and there it is clear, there are situations of some kind of news. well, you need to publish it as soon as possible, otherwise another telegram channel will do it in 5 minutes and, accordingly, you will not have a repost, and the audience will be smaller and somehow all professionalism is probably lost behind this. the whole e. well, here, too, this double-edged sword, as they say, because the situation is elections. here a journalist is faced with a situation of choice, either which yes and i can be the first, or i check and most likely i will

not be the first, but in classical journalism there is also such an interesting thing as, uh, there is not named, the source is an unofficial source, yes, and and how can we check this source? or is there such a thing. e, interlocutor at the moment, e record did not comment on our request to him. here you can refer. so why is there no comment from that side? well, no, this still a common situation. i still want a situation of choice. but it seems to me that after all, for journalists, for the responsibility of journalists. there can be no choice, or, of course, you are hifuesh. yes, uh, at least not for long. as although you know, i had such an amazing story. and let's say she wrote one to the media. well, the article about how to make candles in the church was not even interesting, it’s interesting in detail. in general, great. do you know what it was called. only drugs are better.

when i call with colleagues, i say guys what are you doing? i say, well, what did they tell us, here is either a certain number of visits there per day, or we simply close to your editorial office and that's it. well, now, what to do with it? well, it's also they really do not lie. as if, well, in terms of. i do not know you to her not without it. you think that you exaggerated a little, but in fact it is not a hoax. how is it there, huh? they do not say that the candles are made somewhere along with some drugs in a situation where the reader reads the headlines, a rather unpleasant situation develops in his head. associative, so there is a choice. you can read some official publication, you can do something like these clickbait headlines. come visit me.

wondering where you are legendary film about soviet intelligence variant today we are discussing with vovan and lexus not only pranks, but also the state of the information field and the possibility of manipulation. but if we talk about here, this is a new information space. yes , he has some laws. i remember, a was at one such, shall we say, closed meeting, where someone confidently said that the only law of the new information field is the absence. whatever laws. here it is or not. not well, it's also a question of uh trust, of course, because