i remind you of this letter podcast, we are talking about anatoly dmitrievich papanov, and my guests are yuri vasilyev and elena papanov, friends, my man went through the war. yes, and he also had health problems e didn’t have toes, in my opinion, yes, and there wasn’t one leg, no, there are two fingers. he was amputated. imagine, overcoming the yes pain, then it's important for the actor, but the form. it is the spine that affects everything and no one has ever known about it, that is. the most important thing is that i have worked for 11 years. i just i found out after leaving that because i had never seen him in a small church, and he danced everywhere. he was always moving. that is, it is generally, so it will need such power, strength, less will, so that it does not show at all sometime. he came to see with a stick, when he arrived he was told, what will you be, well, tarkhanov said the rector. yes, he says, somehow you will work at all, and he came up to the mountain in a tunic lame e in

october. by the way, classes have already begun. he says, how did you read it to him, tarkha- tarkhanov, he says, well, how will you be? e lame, he says, i give you my word that i will get rid of lameness, and he came to the course and said, i understand. it was the forty-second year. why was i taken? because on the course there were mostly only girls, all who could , the boys were all at the front, and he came lame and there they had such a scene, the movement was a wonderful teacher. he did so much with him. and when he was already handing over the motion scenes. the dance no one could even guess that he was missing two toes there. he married early. i know, yes, well, how early they finished. mom they are together studied. yes, mothers are also front-line workers. she worked on an ambulance train, she was a nurse. she had already enrolled before the war, she entered the gitis, and gate her evacuation and mother went. means an orderly to an ambulance train, then an ambulance train stopped. mom came to gitis to find out, and classes were already going on there and she

came. and she was also in a tunic and she didn’t have any clothes, except for a tunic and she had boots, and he, too, and so he approached her, saying, you were at the front. she says, yes, well, i was and it somehow brought together, and then they still traveled together, lived in the same area on plyushchikha, and now dad says we went, we went. yes, we went here in the forty-fifth year, they signed all the time, you want to cry when you listen, in general, you can even shoot a movie script like that. so all his life he was confident in one single woman and your mother with his wildest popularity. and this is his modesty is somehow unusual. he's a car, victory is like the latest mercedes today. i don't know how it is at first, then i follow you. yes, and he did not drive close on the volga. he did not disappoint. tell him victory before e, gave the military unit. after the living and the dead , a decommissioned victory.

then he bought himself a volga, with this same thing with there with a deer and now he didn’t drive up in this car, he stopped somewhere 100-200 meters from the theater and said that why would i be like this, so artists walk in torn pantyhose, and i will and i, well, he was very like that, here the amazing rules are amazing, so as not to anger people there, well, to be very modest i always say, the cap glasses jeans were heavy on friends fight or there is no such soul of the company, heavy on friendship he had a certain circle of those people. these were the great writers. these are our absolute rights. here is his such tenderness and such love for andrei mironov that they were right there. uh, that's one organism, almost immediately, yes, well, he was never friends. they just got cut off. this is where the legend goes. what's there, almost? it's not because they left each other. this is all

untrue. they were just partners with andrei alexandrovich, in my opinion, there was alexander anatolyevich mikhal mikhailovich marganov. zakharov they are on fire that mironov at the funeral said that the next one would be he was, but friendships are like that. we thought that, as we mean, what friendship was not. they just were good. uh, partnerships are partnerships, yes, yes, and not because they could not live without each other. and such tenderness, well, about which legends are composed. uh, anatoly didn't. yes, an envelope, i wanted to tell you that when they went to concerts andrei alexandrovich yes , anatolyevna said something at the same time total deficit. that's it in himself anton alexandrovich then agreed to go to the base of something. there, with the base , they will bring some things, bring some good ones to them. they give there. it was always andrei alexandrovich, and he always said anatolyevich let's go to this restaurant for dinner, because mironov was there. it seems to me more such a modern fashionable very much.

when he entered the theater, the train of his french cologne for those times, so it always seemed to me too. what a strange , what an interesting friendship, here, and in two such wonderful actors, but dad was great, he was friends with merezhko. here are the last years. he was friendly with viktor ivanovich, and he also had two friends. these are odnoklassniki, they are both artists so, perhaps not. yes , he was not a party person. with the messenger, they were once great. but with dad, on the same day, when it began to interfere with the profession, he gave up alcohol. it just so happened that his mother died at the wake, he got very drunk, and his mother was always against the fact that he drank all the time scolded him for it and he gave himself a word. it was seventy-two and died. he is 87th 72nd year to 87th year. he

never drank. he directed it like a director. uh, one show. yes, and there was a role for you, and he said that lenka is just your role, but suddenly you play badly, but he says, no. this is when i finished gitis. of course , even in general in my personality. i should have wanted to be working in this satire, but my parents were not welcome together, especially my mother said no, at least you know, at that time not dad, it cost nothing to go to point me, of course. we would have taken to the theater of satire, but my mother said, no, she will never work with us in the theater, because she will play well, the artists will say that their parents trained them to play badly, my daughter, papanova, played badly, so i went to the yermolova theater here, and then hmm in my last year. dad staged the last gorky and it serves me so. such a role. there is for you. i say, dad, of course you want,

i say, i really want. he says i also want you to play that role there. hmm hunchback. yes , i really want you to play it. and through for a while he says, you know, let him still say, dad on his own. give it back it wasn't practiced. it's often there all the way around, but then it's still impossible. it was said, you know what they will say. well, papanov brought his daughter. come on, now tanya would play dorenko. and then i will lead you, and then it did not take place, because this summer he left in life. he only had surrender though the soviets know so interesting. ah, in soviet times , forty sports films are us, if you remember, we went abroad, and i was in mozambique with a picture of a cold summer of 53, and i remember this movie from frame to frame, it is one of my favorites. i now he's the greatest around. and there's a movie going on in mozambique and they're laughing right at their dads because they

thought it was uh western. hmm. and when they brought the script, uh, lately. mom used to read scripts all the time. he didn't have time to read. she says, just not filming it's a western. why do you need it? and your mother said that she did not understand it, and he read it himself, he says. no, i'll be filming and know what else he said. nadia i haven't acted for several years. i have already become forget hmm well it's a brilliant film and a brilliant role. let's see a fragment, and this is the last role it has become. i want to live like a human being.

it will blow me apart. believe me, seryozha will change dramatically now. i was taken away in '39. was abroad, so the champion. do you represent a wife?

guilty is innocent. alive dead amazing in papanov there was nothing from the famous artist, being very famous and recognizable , he was burdened by his fame and shunned everything that could emphasize it, he was hiding behind with dark glasses and nondescript clothes, there was nothing ostentatious in him. alexander proshkin , the director of the film, cold to fly, from the third recalled that papanov, unlike other people, did not advertise his intelligence even through his outward rusticity.

suddenly quotes from a sea lion broke through here, then he himself, shy and delicate, did not tolerate anything else like that when they climbed into his soul and fenced himself off, we played a performance from this on those who were already on tour on the last in vilnius, we played capercaillie's nest and anatolyevich we are somehow always behind the scenes somehow with some such jokes there is something like that. i was here, he was so collected, he was somehow so sad, and he said, i say, well, how are antonchik going. well, just filmed. after all, he was tired of the war and remembered that this, of course, was war. she told me in it that's how it was for him. uh, in general, what was decisive was that he fought, and he wanted to pay tribute, he said, i want to remove such a powerful basis in this. by the way, we have fragments of the performance nest. capercaillie let's see. i hope decent absolutely of the most proletarian origin the mother in our eighth ankh is a trader; the father is a plumber, but he is still in prison.

i forbid you to meet this girl. i forbid. you don't have to say that. yes , and maybe i will marry her for the health of the estate. they rehearsed for years. can i tell a story about this yurt. probably you know it means when they found out that there would be a capercaillie nest and dad knew that he would play sudakov. and here my mother plays the role of a wife. right here in this performance. mom plays his wife, and before that

, olga alexandrovna aruseva came up to him. she called him tolic. well, you know, listen, go to pay, and ask him to give me the role of your wife. he says, well, olya, he went to the point, said nikolaevich tolya got out , he wants to play this role. a got says. yes , but i wanted to give it to your wife nadia, he says, and he left as you wish. you see, this is how it characterizes him, here. when he never asked for anything for his own? uh let you get married. i got married early. they didn’t want me to go out so early at all, i immediately graduated almost from the institute, got married, especially for a student. well, in general, you repeated, yes, the stories of your parents. i even wrote a letter to him when i left for my first tour. tours were long and arrived no one knew anywhere until it was introduced it was very boring. i wrote

this letter to my parents. well, sort of, take me away from here, like from a kindergarten, then they took me somewhere to some mass meetings , met the actors and suddenly they give me a letter from my dad at the reception. this is the only letter that i consider to be a parting word for my whole life. dear, daughter well, hello, it’s hard for you to understand, but what can you do such a life of our acting is good that it seemed to you right away, it’s not easy, when you start with an easy one, then it’s hard to fight with illusions, don’t tear into the clouds in that stronger earth, and it gives you boris in yourself envy ill will towards your comrades. this is a poison for any creative organism, as stanislavsky said, love art in yourself, they yourself in art to an artist, like any artist, you need to travel a lot , observe, absorb, accumulate material. i'm with i would go with pleasure to kemerovo and tomsk

, that's where we were on tour, where is your fundamental principle, the curiosity of an actor, an artist, a person, leading. after all, it is so interesting, for sure, they differ at least from muscovites and the dialect, probably, is different, other moral habits. i'm mer, as soon as they arrive in another city, i immediately go to the bathhouse. there people are exposed not only physically, but also spiritually and morally. how interesting is that? how bored, do you think that anton pavlovich chekhov, sick, rode on the bed-posts through all of siberia in the rain and frost, for the sake of boredom, for the sake of thirst for creativity, you need to educate yourself the need to do the business that you have chosen for yourself, then you will not have time for boredom, that is, and the girls are your daughters. well, i caught it, of course, yes, well, it was good grandfather was a good grandfather, but then again, work. he came to us not often and all the time, when he came, and there he would play with

the children, when he went all the time into my pocket to be stunned by the money. and why did you say so quietly. maybe they had some kind of agreement so that we would sort of live on our own, right? i'm reminded it's a letter show, we're talking about anatoly dmitrievich papanov, and i have yuri vasilyev and elena papanov as my guests. yuri tell me, hmm, what did anton dmitrievich teach from the most important thing, maybe, so you refer somehow yes, like this to him. here i am after 47 years. i'm in the theater and uh, of course, i understand that that's what we get at the institute. these are all such basics of approach, not even a profession, everything begins in the theater sometime. papanov's partner, this is where the school begins. actually, in addition to the fact that he listened to every performance. he knew tonality he needed that's the tonality

of the performance. how the performance goes, where you need to add, where you need to take a little, if the rhythm he needed to hear it to see, then the approach, of course, of the rabbit, as he carefully, very much my wife and child during their childhood at the patriarchs, i saw something on the sword, here it goes, and he was rehearsing something alone, something like, yes, of course, such, what are you talking about, yes, and then, of course, he had a fantastic property he could translate a comical situation in one phrase in tragic. even in the capercaillie's nest here comes the scene. there they tell, and at that time my classmate , with whom i did not have time, hanged himself, it means to talk before, seeing his condition, and he is there something like that , they are joking there. and suddenly he turns

the bookcase like this. he's like a funeral tomorrow and i understand that this is the second plan, that he thought about it all the time. but memories once played. we and left concert in a large self-service dining room. spectators are few catering workers. papanov and i mironov, in turn, a duet and three left the washing room, read something, they played jokes on situations, we naturally didn’t like it and i reduced my program to a minimum, we’ll do the same. andrey zero. i am excited when i went out to this more than modest and far from festive audience, how he performed his program with full dedication on the stage of the kremlin palace at the congress. that's respect for a person. in principle, yes, for me it is so revealing. i know that there was some kind of rehearsal, but there was a kidney director and svetlana ryabova participated and she had something it did not work out there and others offended her.

she ran away in tears and her antalis. dmitrievich caught up in the corridor and began to soothe, looking for a candle. this is my fault. it's me who doesn't work with you. you will succeed. everything is fine. this is generally, of course, from an adult held. but such a level of an actor to hear such support. it's forever. i went to a concert with him, probably the last one he was persuaded by some administrator to go to the military unit, where the son of this administrator served, so that he would be given a leave, and he went to three concerts and he came up to me and let's go earn a little. we arrived there, and now we are driving up in a car, a company is standing at the hotel, the soldiers of the generals are standing, and they salute anatolyevich, they simply received him as but this is what we are talking about, he was so worried, and he is rubbing his hands with a handkerchief. i say anatolyevich, what are you

worried about? he says, julia is good, the artist is always worried, absolutely believe the truth. and for me, for example, it’s hard to imagine that anatoly dmitrievich was a different person, and not that one, about this. today you are in such superlatives. tell, and most likely with your eyes. yes, yes, 2022 is the year of anton dmitrievich papanov. and even this year for 20 years and continues. yes, a year of papanov at the satire theater yes, here we are. on may 8 and 9, it was on victory day that we played such an evening dedicated to anatolyevich and we always remember him for a century, we and lena were and the whole family. let's get a look. i'm thirsty until beauty has recently begun

to do a lot of satire theater outside the repertory. i am pleased that practically the whole corpse. i'm not talking about the adult artists who worked with him remember him, but i'm young people who have never seen him, never worked together live. and this association is worth a lot.

many thanks to the theater of satire for doing this and to you very much. thank you thank you for coming. i remind you, this is a podcast of letters, my guests were the daughter of the great anatoly dmitrievich papanov, elena papanov, and the artist of the satire theater yuri vasiliev thank you very much. hi all. this is a free program podcast and i'm maxim tankov, but my today's guests are a wonderful russian dance duet that made the most noise last season. at the same time, we will never go out on competitive ice. meet alexander stepanov ivan bukin hello guys. well, last season you managed absolutely everything. became parents, yes, sash. congratulations. you

recently became a mother and tell us. what it's like how we named our daughter, kira this is probably an incomparable feeling for me. i could never even, probably, imagine that you can love like this something magical vanya i’ll tell everyone a secret, of course, that this is a partner in sports, but not a partner in life, so as not to be confused, but there are rumors that you are almost one of the first ran to the hospital and took sasha to training. well, yes, almost i, as it were, they were driving home, i intercepted sasha in the car. we immediately put the skates on the trainer, but in fact it was not so, but very little time passed and for me it was, of course, a little bit of a shock, because when i planned how we go to bed. i thought it was a month or two for sure. and when i am in 2 weeks they called and said, well, what are you there, how ready

i am already everything, i'm already ready. i go out on the ice, come on and i'm a little like that. i'm not ready yet sash wait, so it was very surprising and for me, of course, it was also a joyful event, because after all, life is such without sports. she was completely different and here again the return is. well, you know somehow. everything is very new so this season has been amazing, but you missed your partner while skating with others in the ice age. listen on the glacial this hand went. well, yes, there was still, by the way, fairy tales were. so, i still managed to ride there with other partners, in fact. yes, of course, i missed you, but we managed, so to speak, to talk a little with sasha before she left already in pregnancy. yes, on vacation. uh, that we still planned to clearly return. we wanted it so much that i waited and waited. here

we are getting ready. sasha was jealous, for now. he probably didn't even know where to perform there. no, i didn’t know what it means, i knew, i knew with whom you would be a glacier from time to time exactly, because it’s all the process was taking place. we are already against together. well , yes, you chose a partner for him. well, not that i chose, as it were, i really wanted, of course, that he got it. a beautiful girl, so that she was, well, as if it suited him, there and in terms of height in terms of parameters. here and now, just alla got with him in a pair. i was very happy. yes, and he was always positive , always joyful, always smiled, laughed when she called him, asked how you were doing, how everything was fine with you there and he didn’t get bored. this is the most important thing, when you found out that your partner will be alla mikheeva , a wonderful presenter. moreover, the host of this project at one time, a wonderful friend of many, many skaters. how were your first impressions? well, listen, well, we

came to try. this was the first test in general, it was like that. well, i don’t know about three minutes, we probably stood a little. so i somehow it so happened with us that it was precisely the general mood that coincided. and i really wanted us to ride with her in such a way that i tried to set everyone up as much as possible so that alla would go to me, that's it happened and conquered alla mikheev well , you can probably say your own, well, as it were, that yes, i teach everyone i asked us to stand in the salon, because it was in spirit. she suited me very well, so i felt comfortable with her, and we began to train. and now the whole glacier, in general, passed in a great mood on a positive, so it was high, firstly, it was something completely different from the sport for me, while for such an avid athlete, it was hard to imagine that i would go out and would, as it were, ride with another person in general and when i

the first issue came out, in general, it was shaking so much and so i think, god, how old are you. vanya seems to be going to the start for the first time, but uh, alla and i came in like that, we were shaking, well, somehow then everything grew together and the glacier went into the closet. now sash vanya became a dad a little earlier than you. shares with you the experience of fatherhood, or maybe i advise you to ask him some questions, well, we talk very often now about children, of course, but very often. yes, every other day for sure , and maybe even more often, well, some of my own let me ask, i say, do you have an account like this. well, it happens, of course. well, sasha has already said about the mother's all-encompassing love for the child, but you are the boy's father. oh, this is generally like that. well, honestly, i’m like that, because when i had a little one, here’s a child, i saw him before the olympics, and i didn’t understand anything. well, that is, i am like that, well, yes, tyoma

klass in general, i have a son. well , the olympics are now for me, and that is, it was hard, but now when you know, each of his, here is some kind of achievement, he learned to walk. i just was. well, i don't know the happiest person. so now he's uh pointing to the fridge. he says i want to eat here. well , that is, for me it’s already such things, when i just sit, i think, god, what a high you are with me. it’s interesting to play with him. we are sitting there cars, you know something, well, it's something like that. these are completely different emotions, different. she also wanted to take, by the way, somewhere. no. it 's too early, it seems to me, and he will get up, but only get up and leave, right? and you have just my wife tatyana volosozhar, therefore, she has figure skating all the kids are into figure

skating, that's why at the age of 2 i have everything already skating in the world. well, no sports. axel already? and not at all, my daughter, by the way, really asks, but we both went through and we know. what is it, therefore. and the second is the direction. what kind of fishing rods? ah the first figure skating. i understand tronkov's second daughter. she gets high, wan, you and your dad are a figure skating dynasty, does it mean that tyoma will have to continue and his fate is already written. er, this is a difficult question for me. eh, i'm honest, honestly, i don't really want to, so that my son continues to be, as it were, in this sport. i want him to decide. i didn't have that opportunity. uh, i had a grandfather, what does grandfather say to that. i haven't asked yet, but no, of course not. i think it

does anyway uh at some point. tyoma san will say, dad, i want to be, for example , an it specialist there as a programmer. i don't know, maybe some kind of blogger. well, i don't know who. he wants to be, but i hope that a he won't come up and say. i want to be a dancer. look, i wouldn't be surprised if he he will come and say, dad, this girl's name is kira and now we are skating in pairs. and now we ride in pairs. yes, and we heard such well , again, yes it will be fun, but no. i think that time will pass, we'll see, but i that he himself will choose e appointment, as he wants guys , you returned to the sport. uh, literally in this off-season, how to return after a fun life with alla mikheeva, heavy maternal everyday life, how in general, in what state are you now, can you put on programs, well, maternal ones will pour out. i continue.

in contrast to life, mikheeva ivan became, but we switched to other coaches, and now she is working in another team and just now we are doing the steps , setting up a free program. we have already been delivered turns out a year ago, but a season ago. so we decided to leave it, because we didn’t show it anywhere, but a short dance. right now, just in the process , literally today we arrived after training, where we also, in fact, tried to figure out the new rules and put on something interesting, i love the guests, who all tell. and they just break the course of the interview for me completely like no it's cool because it makes my head and work i had a question about, of course, a short dance i had a question, of course, about moving to other trainers and everything else, so let's start in order. a short dance is a very interesting

topic, the eighties and the producer of the show ice age or averbukh loves this topic very much . maybe you emphasized some ideas there or you didn’t have such a topic. do you want to tell me? okay but uh, really quite sculptural took a long time to pick up . in general, the music, because, well, very voluminous , uh, the eighties is like that, there really is a lot of cool cool and slow and groovy. and in general, uh, different music in these years so that we picked it up. it seems to me a very unusual option. well, honestly, because so here they are, probably hard between each other. well, imagine, but i think that the style of the eighties we are yes through this whole program, because the rules have changed there and

everything is somehow very tricky and complicated there, therefore, it will be interesting, really it will be interesting just to see what people are capable of in dancing on ice, what they will come up with, because there well, it just seems to me that the topic is why it is interesting, because on the international arena it will be shown by children of the nineties and two thousandths. to judge and train will be the children of the eighties and earlier. well, yes, this is very interesting in this, but in fact , there are enough of them in the rules now. well i can say a lot of freedom a lot of freedom - this is for us to dance. e to in there was so much freedom in certain parts of the short dance, it's just amazing, because it took us a couple of days to rebuild our head like that in order to start

feeling more comfortable in these rules, so to speak, because usually we have everything very clearly spelled out, just quite hard. you cannot go to the right or to the left, that is, only in a straight line while following these rules. and now you know so well. yes, you are really lost. i don't know how, uh, how to do that. i always thought at all, no wonder now you listen to those frames because you've always been the one with those frames butting heads with your twizzles. in the yes position of the pistol there is a top, uh, with some kind of support. i just remember that season after season stepanova booking proved that it was possible. and now you see, this freedom is already, it seems, as if you don’t need it. no, well, it's one thing. you know, when you can, but now it’s just like that, in general , you know very freely, you’re already in shock. that is , even stepanova bukin yes, a in shock. and how are our beds now? yes, how to prove something at all? oh no. okay, this is a joke.

in terms of what the truth has now done is quite interesting. and well, let's see what everyone will do both here and on the international arena, but i hope that we will also try to do something in our own style, something with the new team, so to speak, with its help , but in our own style in some way, how it will look like a free program passed to alexander zhulin. this is one more than one, probably the most successful coach of the last russian olympiads of recent years and left. you are from alexander pork irina zhuk, with whom you have worked all your life, and judging by your social networks.