oh no. well, okay, this is a joke in terms of the fact that the rules are quite interesting now, and well, let's see what everyone will do both here and in the international arena, but, uh, i hope that we will also try to do something in our style, something with the new team, uh, with its help, but in our own style in some kind of our own understanding of how it will all look like. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov. well, we continue to educate children to talk about figure skating. together with our wonderful athletes, alexandra stepanova and ivan bukin, you went over to alexander zhulin. this is one more than one, probably the most successful coach of the last russian olympiads of recent years and left. you are from alexander pork irina zhuk, with whom you have worked all your life, and judging by your social networks. and seeing your communication,

when i myself was in the national team and could watch it. you were like a family, and when it happened it was very difficult for me to accept and understand how you decided on this and how did this conversation go? which of you can was the initiator? why is this all? tell me a little about it. i know it's not easy and you explain it again, but because we are not one of those, uh, who got experience, yes, in different countries with different coaches. it so happened with us that when i moved to moscow and arrived, i immediately went to vanya and vanya was already with these trainers in vasilyevich vladimirovna herself and i came to them. and so from our very start, literally, until recently , we were only with this was 113, and until the age of 16-17 we were with only one team. that's why, of course, it was hard to find words. well, practically, probably, it is impossible, but we didn’t have it, yes. words weren't right

to leave. eh, it's nice to leave. uh somehow, well hugging there. well, it's hard. it's very hard. but i think that some time will come , time will pass, and we probably, i don’t know, we haven’t seen them even once yet. i'm here, and that is, you personally do not talk. we personally. and when they left, of course we say goodbye. i only said thank you. well, because the conversation was very short it was exactly 30 seconds. we went in, as sasha would say. most importantly, i said, thank gratitude. and basically, that's it. unfortunately, i don't know, well, that's how it happened, how it happened, of course, inside. i wanted to say thank you very much and directly, well, how to describe all the merits that we received together , after all, it's such a long, it's a whole life. it was very

hard to say goodbye in 30 seconds. but, probably, it was so for us and for him and for us it was better this way, because then it would be there are a lot of different questions that would probably be difficult to answer at that moment. why did we decide? well, because you know somehow this is the season, we moved away from life in sports and realized that, in principle, there was not much left. this is exactly the kind of work we didn’t get, as sasha correctly said some other information from some one, and we decided that now we would like to try this , try to work somewhere elsewhere with others with another team. that's get some different vision on us. eh, in general. some other experience and here to take a risk. yes , because it is, well, it is a big risk for us many

people who go to other coaches. well , it doesn't work, maybe it does. it’s almost more difficult than finding your own when, roughly speaking, you are 11-13-15 years old there - this is one thing, because you still have a sports career ahead of you, and when you are already 30 there is already such a short short chance for it, so we really hope that yes, but for the coaches it was a shock when you came or they were already ready, plus or minus. i think that uh-huh is not straight at all. they were shocked. they would be shocked if we came, for example, right after the olympics, for example , and then told them yes, uh, we would take them by surprise, probably, that it was also quite difficult to get into the olympics. that's why some time passed we performed in sochi with ilya verbukh. and then

they just arrived and reported that not a season had passed at all. without us and them, probably, some new guys, but somehow adjusted a little to their new life. so basically a little. they probably at that time were able to, as it were, let us go a little bit, that is, we were not constantly on the ice, and we also lived a certain life of our own. so, i think, we, in principle, it was such a more or less loyal moment when it was possible to disperse and try everyone. well, let's say. yes direction and you have chosen the direction of your bitter rivals coach alexander zhulin why exactly alexander zhulin? well , because i have always competed with vika nikita, this is interesting, but in fact i it’s just that we didn’t discuss this before, like , when sasha was pregnant there, that is, we planned something, but the very fact that i

worked with sasha zhulin in the ice age. here i really liked it. i shared this information with sasha, what i liked, how it fits like? well, when a person can sit there, roughly speaking, do his own business, and then once he has some kind of brilliant vision. and you, well, like he did a little something, but he did it very cool. and most importantly, it is not heaped up that it's just lying. and you 're like, how did it happen? well, that is , it is not yes, or here. now, for example, we are doing the same thing 10 times 15 times. well, something is wrong with him. come here and show. maybe go out on the ice? well, here and there , just a little bit, literally move something here, the hip is very to the side or the shoulder is opened. i think that somehow it works. i don't know how he does it. that is. well, these are the moments you can now experience for yourself. and it's very cool. yes, that's right, that's it, that's some kind of i don't

i know, this is a brilliant vision, probably, how to do it right, i will continue a little conversation about the competition between your former sportsman and vika nikita, they were our guests here at their graduation. you can also look at the website of channel one and i had a question about you for them. i don't know , maybe you saw it, then pilfered it in the press a little bit, that they are completely yes, yes, and i had a question. are they jealous of sasha zhulin? yeah. and the second question, if sasha zhulin asks for help, well, come and help vanya and sasha in some way, and will nikita come or not? if such a situation arises, you will be ready to cooperate such a great experience, the more they know uh trainers. i don’t know what he wants and i think they will, well, if, of course, they agree, and they will help us, because, well, once again, they have a lot of experience, and they have always been above us , and they know exactly what it takes to be that

’s it on this step, but plus they have already helped us a little bit. yes, we will be here. for this, we are telling you that we are going to e-analysis now in sochi and at this moment. uh, tatyana navka called us to myself to enter her show, and so somehow we agreed to interrupt. this is the sleeping beauty show, which will take place this summer in the southern city, sochi, in my favorite olympic, you will definitely have a rest. come see vanya and sasha yes, come, be sure. she asked the guys to come and teach us, uh, parts. yes, they showed us. so we can say that they have already worked a little, that is, they have already received us. roughly speaking, how to roll what we will roll. uh, in july. that's how we worked and it was, by the way, very great fun, and the guys remembered showed

us so we tried, uh, everything, to repeat. so it would have been rolling, uh we went out just like it was right after the holidays. so we're all a little like that. well, we sasha were so slightly floating. but it seems that i managed to learn everything, because nikita answered that, well, i generally ask if he sees himself as a coach. he said yes, and has been thinking about it for a long time. yes, he delivers very well. and so, when i asked him about stepanova bukin, he said, well, i myself can’t come and begin. put in some five kopecks there, but he says, of course, if the guys ask something, he is open for help, it would be cool, so i will bring you and nikita kotlapov there, as usual, i will participate in my women, maximum zhulin, gathered the whole world of russian ice dance. so to speak.

how do you like competition in general? with whom can you be friends or rivals share the ice? i'll be honest. i'm quick i won't talk for so long. i'll tell you quickly. we are all now, all these new ones who have passed, we we are all working. and we, frankly, are little distracted by each other, because we have a lot of things to do, roughly speaking, and we are all on the ice, but we really work endlessly. we try to emphasize something from our new coaches. no, well, what suddenly turned out there all i honestly did not expect. i knew what was there, and lisa and pasha were skating. they had them at sasha's and rode before. this is shanaeva. pavel drozd is also our wonderful duet. yes, then just information about lisa and his grief came after vanka and i had already crossed there, here for me or the testaments of khudoyberdiev. egor bazin champions of russia interested in

dancing on ice, but in the absence of stepana for me it was. well, it’s surprising that i also thought that they had a very good one. tandem with their previous coaches. here we are, like this, all of a sudden once and all ended up in one place, but it seems to me that it will be interesting. in any case, when you are the only couple in the group. well, it doesn’t matter in the masters, that is, what level. what level are you there the second pair is always wondering when you do? well, let's say, a short dance, when you do the same thing, that is, we still have different dances from juniors. and even just to look. someone needed something better than someone else. that is, in any case, but there are so many people to look at. something i don’t know to ask there, maybe even that. well, plus the rivalry is such a good rivalry. it too. i think it will benefit everyone in this group. it is clear how they grew up. uh, with the previous team, they moved to the new one as only now he took it and how he continues

to treat each other, and something tatyana anatolyevna tarasova told you after your transition. that is, or at home, we personally did not talk about this with her. so, well, somehow it happened that there was no such opportunity, so we would really be happy to, yes, listen, and he, because for me she always turned out to be yours, like a godmother, mom, or something, she was all some kind of your couple led. but she, it seems, yes, as always , she was very close to us, but at the same time she was very far away, because we honestly don’t that is. for example, i know that you anatolyevna, at least, before yes, i could visit cska very often, that is, we didn’t have this. yes, she came to us, of course, but it was very, very rare. well , yes, twice a season. perhaps that was enough. she was very close to us at the same time as we were.

not really under her supervision and under her comments , so to speak, you guys missed, as i said , the previous season was pleasant for various reasons, how exciting was the season in russian ice dancing for you and did you follow him and i was so afraid of this question, my god. okay, well, as there is i can voice i was not very exciting. but no. i can honestly say that i have observed. so i watched and well, and when it came time to make a decision to return or not, and i already said for sure i would return. i can honestly say that for me everyone was a little like that, as if relaxed. yes, as if relaxed, that is, i don’t want to offend anyone, by no means, but after all, none of these guys were at the olympics. why be relaxed here is absolutely new stressful for everyone. well, i don’t know, no, i had the feeling that every start i

saw, that someone was wrong, someone could. yes , it was all the time, all all the leaders were all wrong, and whoever i take, it seems, has not been for a long time. even entered the expression dancing till you drop with us or they? well, unfortunately, what is honest in the last season, i did not see directly such a serious leader. that is, which would directly, well, come out or, for example, there are two leading pairs that could among themselves among themselves like this. well, exactly, not that there who's wrong, someone flew out, well, someone won. and what do they all ride it cleanly on, and right here a hundredth to a hundredth. well , i didn’t notice this, but i saw that yes, that’s all relaxed for me. that's probably a fitting description of last season in dancing on ice. well, i did not see that such a specific generational change had come, because there were three couples that we are used to seeing. got it,

jones tiffany left there, we, too, we didn’t have a season of fixies, that is, right, well , i don’t know that one, well, it’s gone, really, here’s a generation, probably for some period, but we missed you not in the comments, not in the comments, and in the interview. we will try very hard now, but do everything so that, uh, again, you are glad that we are back. here's hoping it works. i'm sure it will work. we just want, in addition to returning to what was, we also want to learn to be different, that is, to try. that's it e to show that we can not only as we always know how. well, something, maybe not this season, because this season, uh, you need to come, you need to feel back, even though it’s only been a year, roughly speaking, when we didn’t perform, but for us it’s a whole life and to come anew, in this direct

maximum form, of course, it probably won’t work. i think max. maybe you understand what i'm talking about. and what, maybe not this one, but the next and subsequent seasons. they will be much more, probably, indicative than now, that is, i don’t want to say directly that i’m going out right now, and that’s it. well, as if we were there. well, i don't know who we are. never been, but i really want to show. uh, something else that we're capable of , something more than we've done before is happening. this is a free program podcast. i am maxim tronkov. well, we continue to educate children to talk about figure skating. together with our wonderful athletes alexandra stepanova and ivan bukin guys. well , in general, the story of your couple. this is the story of overcoming, because at first they were not invited to the olympics. vanya, you didn’t participate in korea because of this, you didn’t gain the necessary experience to

maybe a higher place to show now in beijing because i know from my own experience how the second olympiad is easier than the first even to take your rivals. yes, there, uh, vika and nikita didn’t have them either in the eighteenth, but he had them at 14, that is, they still had some kind of accumulated baggage. now again this suspension, again we are not invited. and here is all this in your lifetime, how motivated you are, and why he wants to move on anyway. well, first of all, i believe that they will let us in. i believe in it's because, well, without us. i see also the national competitions and i want to believe that all international federations understand that, uh, when strong russian athletes compete. it looks much more interesting, bewitching and well , unfortunately, for me it is now, probably, our sport in the international

in the global world scale. he is in such a storm and i want it all to return to that norm again, where we went out to communicate with different athletes. and because it is cool. this is cool. this is this new me. yes , this unites sports. he is also for peace. well, for me it is very important that now it’s like everyone wants us to be here, well, this big beautiful sport, which always seems to be, well, i don’t know the roses and has progressed on some colossal scale, because now it’s a little bit sad, and i want everything to be as it was before, as it were, i don’t know. honestly. excuse me, please, will this be inserted or not, but i just didn't want to say it. not really, right. this is very beautiful and the right words. i think that many feet gradually think about it. and not even in our

country i would like to believe it. and, of course , you want us to come back, you come back. not just like that, but still showed. there are other competitions that you missed. it was a new tournament, an exclusive russian challenge. and you did not participate in it for obvious reasons. tell followed. i wish i wanted. i called him, i say, let's do it. well, i say, if everything will be, since means conceived, then we will go with you to speak. i say, i'll call the federation there . well, so that we are simply not written off. it seems to me that he laughed very hard in his soul, probably he was already planning to perform there with another partner. when before yes request for a call. i'm a little like that, of course. well, then i thought, no, damn it, well, it's impossible.

and well, in principle, that's what happened, because, well , it's unrealistic there it really was really possible there could have been 3 weeks, really, as we would like it to turn out, therefore, how would it be in general this is the tenth day. well, it is clear that i went out. i did not go out. i went out to stand on the ice. but yes, we would be great. well, that just wouldn't be pretty. probably, that would be vanya , he would be handsome, of course, and i'm so-so, but i will say that i was delighted, delighted. from this, too, no, because it somehow, well revived revived, in general. so i think so, damn it, i was so skeptical at first. i think, well, when it's all on such a scale that i'm so stunned by the way, i didn't really like your number. now someone. well, no, actually, really, i really loved this tournament. and who the hell was invited, well, on the jury. yeah, i mean,

well, i didn't expect to see people like that. it was very nice that here are some people a little bit. they didn't rate you. that's probably, yes, here but it all looked. i watched it on tv, it all looked interesting in a new and fresh way, see you all generations. it was very cool for me. we are waiting for you in the new season. together with crooks , not only in this tournament. now i have completely different prices now for sports and i miss both the sled and sports. i think, that's fine, but something to complete our conversation. i won't repeat that we missed you. i just know how much the fans missed you because i see both in the comments and in the discussions that as soon as they started talking about you this season , the interest in ice dancing returned. i don’t promise to return to the previous level in pair

skating. i'll be back, but thanks for being with us for competing. and that you are so beautiful that you came to us today. i think we had a great conversation. at least i was easy and pleasant. thanks guys. mutually. mutually. thank you very much for the invitation and thank you for the wonderful interior. it was a free program podcast. i am maxim tarankov, and we are today's guests, a wonderful dance duet, our champions sasha and vanya stepanova bukin thank you thank you hello dear friends, not so long ago, as part of our television academy, we distributed meatballs in the region in ufa. lord, this is the result of this trip, it was impossible not to fall in love. in this brilliant musician,

zainaddin, dear friends, ufa bashkortostan this brilliant man builds a bridge between the past present and it seems to me, and the future, he takes the national turkic bashkir melos and makes it the music of the 21st century. this is fantasy. yes, plus a video. that is why i am standing here, they are sitting, because now i will leave you one on one behind us and with his colleagues, and then i will come, because not only sounds will be involved, but also video. well , i hope you love these people as much as we all loved them in our time. so zain one, ufa bash. kortostan all talk, then i ask you.

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thanks rahmet is correct. i put it, ufa bashkortostan fantasy acting chalk word without any effort is organically intertwined with modern computer. let me say lousy, you know thinking. yes? i agree, but she had such a goal when this project was created, and i created the project together with

the people's artist of the republic of bashkortostan rustam and zatulin e, we wanted to come up with what fashionable modern is, what you can dance, but at the same time, so that it is associated with antiquity. e with culture with ethnicity and in my project i play 15 instruments and that's it. combining this with fashionable modern music , it turns out that this kind of thing was going on, but you didn’t have to look especially hard. it seems to me that all this is still sung in the bashkir villages. it all exists. it's all sung. and so it happened. my father dreamed of being an artist. it somehow did not work out in soviet times. and when i was born, every day he began to play the kurai speed, which is the bashkir national instrument. cane, which is in the southern urals can you give me a cane, please, i even brought a cane to show. and here, too, comrades, you saw, here is that second one, where is this beautiful girl, this is what kyzy and or khan i don’t know how to say

better, and so and so this is kurai, this reed that grows in the southern urals, e, a flower. this kurai is depicted on our flag on our coat of arms. uh, seven flowers means seven generations. e bashkir, and i specially brought this reed here. and here he is like this is growing. we pluck this reed. and i have already prepared in advance, here we are tearing it off. e. a flower, eh, then i ’ll hold it in front of you specially, please, i’ll cut this edge in front of you . kurai please now make five holes. wow, i'm doing it, five holes, i made it right with a pen, five holes and it turned out. here is such a beautiful one. a very

meditative spacious sound resembles an indian bansuri only the whole world knows okurai bonsura, many of us, dear friends, have just learned that night. so here i am, if possible, right on this instrument now live without you need it or not, not necessarily dear ladies. let's go, let's leave our viewers one on one with kurai. and now i live zaina dinom live, and without arrangement i would like to sing an excerpt from the little epic of alpamysh.

emerite wanda tau has emeria, tauemir tauem. pokilya well, throat singing turned out to be mongolian things for me no, in fact , throat singing, many turkic peoples drank and, of course, it is very interesting that you have a lot of, uh, the history of the siberian bashkirs, where did they come from? we are bashkir

roamed over vast areas. and now , even if we take, but the bashkirs, then we are sprinkled all over russia. what is good honey? i even specifically remind you of the program of the first channel. the plant is the purest water of the mountain everything probably plays such an important role, and in the creation of such a beautiful honey. i think we will be on the right track if our viewers take, yes, and study the interesting history of the bashkir people , find out more than we managed to say, and now our task is to continue to charm them and further, of course good. well, i didn’t come alone, but the honored artist of the republic of bashkortostan came with me, and ziriya bakhtieva is

doing well. gentlemen well this is a beauty for a long time in your heart not a single person yet and this beauty this voice did not leave indifferent that it is on you, dear trees. well, firstly, these are national bashkir jewelry. this is a kosnik, by the way, i inherited from my great-grandmother. but, if you show it in a large frame, then here the coins are even royal ones of 1856. that is now i'm right on made herself a past. i would say, and well, a part. this silver, pure silver, has long been considered, uh, sacred protection from impure forces due to the fact that everything rings. it kind of drove me away from myself. eh, some negativity. yes, and even there is such a thing. eh, the concept, how from afar, if you hear coins, how a bashkir woman said they are ringing. first

you will hear, and then you will see the cats of the braid. uh, also had uh such uh, meaning like uh the status of a girl, because uh in the past, if it wasn’t such that you could approach and meet a girl. it couldn't be done from afar. you could see if she was married or not. look, if a girl wore two braids, that is, it meant that she was still mom's and dad's daughter. that is, she is unmarried. and when she wove it into one braid, that is, one could see that she was already married, you would not approach her. and, of course, there is, uh, their own bashkir hats , uh, called koshmal, and they also wore them without fail. uh, this, uh, nightmare in order to, well , in order to show that she is already married, and uh , we even have whole legends about how uh, the girls didn’t want to marry, uh, for

those men they were chosen for, and there is such a straight salmon, yes, uh, which is called six. yes there is a legend about seven girls the legend is connected with the fact that they were stolen. they ran away, caught them, then they ran away again, then they were caught again, and in order for them not to run away again, they had to cut their feet. eh, and yes, and they put finely finely chopped horsetail in there. this, of course , was very painful, and they could not run far, but, probably, there was a great desire see your homelands. and e go home, they still one day. even through the pain. they ran away, but they couldn't get far. they ended up near the lake, a kultuban. this e bashkortostan from baimaksky

district. where do i come from and there is a lake of kultuban, and they are, uh, holding hands, huh? it's just that we made a better choice, we'll uh die here together now. and here they are with enormous honor. well, yes, of course, and they are all from the huge tables all over the world, they just drowned. darling, or i have so much of you romanticism and high vibration. uh, hmm, they caught up with us on the air, that now we will listen to the song and we will keep in mind this graceful and high bashkir part. and what 's the song? this is my author's song, i myself wrote the music for this song , my own sister. yulia bakhtiva. that's not den played the instruments. uh, the arrangement

was written by the people's artist of the republic of bashkortostan rustemgi. zatulin. so it was a team effort. we sang it for the first time in kazakhstan and, of course, we enjoyed it. we would like to fulfill it. for you, too, i went spectators, bashkortostan elijah

the power of the urals and the bashkortougan is great well, comrade, i’ll tell you this, such bashkir manners of receiving guests right on the trees, you need to say kyzym, tell them directly the new bird rakhmat and how do you feel about the fact that your music, of course, is for discos, at least now somewhere this is where everyone is dancing. this is an insult to you. no. you know it's the opposite. eh, very good. i would say, because we make modern music based on traditional folklore, and young people like it. invite you of course, well let's not interrupt this music stream. so with these, uh, number

one, ufa bashkortostan invites you all to this exclusion for a hospitable i will say the republic or how to say the republic of the republic? i will play an instrument that is made from a friend of a cow, and this is a russian zhaleyka, a russian zhaleyka, the instrumentation performed throat singing, and the composition is called dyrkan bashkir folk melody.

dear friends, uh, if i express a general opinion, but in this little thing, in this bashkir rap cybernetic brew, there is one feature i wish it didn't end. yes, of course, that's how you get it, yes. you yes. why are you in the pentatonic scale? yes, listen to it like this, it's just understandable, even for someone who's not particularly sensitive here, to understand that the auditory suckers are all the same, it's understandable, and it's just sausage, comrades. may i think you are now up to barely a cross. it fits very well. and we not only brought bashkir instruments. i myself studied at the musical gymnasium in the class of trombone. here i am a trampanist myself and we even make such mixes, uh with different instruments from rammed zur to dumbai. everywhere has ripened you

represent? how did this boy annoy his parents? he also knocked on everything that he had in his hands, you also, listen, if there is everything that glitters, if there is a trombone, he is already in the hands of melancholy. if there is something here , this russian horn, it will immediately be found on well , how, well, it’s necessary, and even uh duduk and even duduk uh, hmm, somehow there was such a story. uh, they stopped me. uh, well, traffic cops, and in order to let go, i began to put on a concert. and they let me go until i played with your finger. then they were only surprised , you can take your fingers and play. learn to play the finger and go wherever you want fantastic. and i also

brought a lot of tools, in fact. i have a wooden cube with this tool we call kubys. this is a jew's harp, it is called differently by different peoples. that is, we call it kubys, and they call the harp. yakutian khomus is called one for you, thank you. and what to do with it? this is a wooden cube, and a wooden cube. we have, uh, found a very long time ago. that is, in ancient times on this instrument were playing. it is made from birch. and here is a thread like this. and you can play it like this. this is such a wonderful tool. that's how

the cracks stand back salavat yulaev enchanted emelyan pugachev i brought a lot of kuraev . well then, now with a trombone , we will listen to what happens in the hands of a talented person. i would like to thank dear friends again and again. uh, bashkortostan which gave me and my colleagues meeting with such a talented person of new conquests for you. and to you, dear friends, new interesting meetings, like those that just happened, all the best.

if possible, dear viewers, let's all applaud together.

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