and what in the process of work do they have something good, what can be learned from them good, what can be learned? i think that everything, well, always yes, there is something to learn from foreign colleagues, these are some kind of crossfit things that are very interesting, they have a lot of work for team building, it is also interesting when they are teams astronauts compete with each other, but these are more such competitions, probably, gaming ones are not quite directly such that you need to win. here are the commands. of course, they are also divided there periodically in different ways, but it's very cool. this is very interesting is teamwork and associated with physical activity. i think it's great. and it is possible that it will also acquire more from us. we just said that you have e. uh, wish plans for the future, yes, go to the cosmonaut corps and maybe you will be the first space family that will appear on the iss. you

are discussing plans, the plan itself is a thing, of course, that’s how she was here, she told us about it. that would be very, very cool. it would be really cool about that, that's just such a plan. here straight to the exercise, that is uh well, i do not know how to plan a workout in two space. cool i think yes, i think it would be very cool. how did you meet? so not about space, of course, but an abstract topic. yes, and i'll tell you, we met at the competition. so it’s unclear where else we could meet, and the competitions were in rafting. this is rafting along mountain rivers on inflatable rafts. well, they are rafts, that's what they are called. that is, it’s not who, to whom it was, all the more, so you understand the women’s teams , the men’s, or there somehow funny yes teams separately, the male category is separately female, well , how did you password with everyone? no, we are not

direct competitors. we are just from different cities. and somehow it so happened that we came to these competitions , the city of gorno-altaysk is the capital and separately from it there are locations on the katun river there or the gumen rapids, where the cup of russia is held russian championship that is, these were not easy times. yes? yes, this good level of competition is rated enough to say correctly what she was doing. uh, it wasn't just in this boat. yes, of course she is this boat was an athlete. as far as i remember. she would even have been a captain, well, for some time, yes, yes, for sure, she was the captain of the novosibirsk team, and at that moment she was sitting in a different composition. well, also like athletes, they periodically go there and, well, something deep into the club. but no, you're not talking about it, not about the team, to be honest, i don't remember if it will be either, something then. that's

exactly what they didn't work for. you are gold medals. well , at least, well, at least, uh, i think that at these competitions, probably the most important prize, each of us received. yes we met. we continued our acquaintance communication and subsequently. we seem to be doing some very interesting things together. but tell those people who also want, well, go to the squad to lubricate. what to do now. what exercises? would you advise. well, it's not just that you shine so that they come prepared. well, okay. we are there to pull ourselves up 12 times, we need to run and swim. there is such an opportunity than what would you say to pay more attention to, specifically in physics training. i think that any an athlete of some even narrowly directed specialization. he is already 50% ready. well

, of course, a versatile approach to your physical fitness. that is, if there are any questions about swimming or about running, all these standards are presented in the public domain. you can easily go to the cppk website to look, or even on the internet. when the board is announced, there will be a document, even now you can already see it. i don't think they will tolerate any major changes. therefore, one can easily rely on the fact that it was already up to test yourself to test. and where there are some shortcomings, of course, to try to strengthen them, it is better to work with coaches. after all, teachers, because they are professionals yes , professional ones, because not every person, as it were, can train himself. and if we are to be honest to the end, then coaches and teachers will always train an athlete better than he himself, otherwise the olympic champions would not have coaches. they would prepare themselves, and you would put them on pedestals. here you are sasha, you have been working for a long time space from and you perfectly understand what

the risk of space flight is, i mean, you were at anya's launch yes, did you see this huge rocket? yes, the start itself saw it, were you afraid, did you have any feeling at that moment , the moment of the launch of the space rocket? uh, probably more of a thrill. yes , the excitement of the experience, but, uh, there is probably no fear, as such, very interesting. eh, also the experience of us. uh, literally a day before the rocket launch. it was the families of the astronauts of our cosmonaut who brought to her and us showed the rocket practically. even so. here, yes. this is how i see you, that is, i stood near the rocket and could look at it , it was on the launch pad, where it was already, and its launch was delayed. and yes, there was one transfer due to weather conditions. here, well, it’s not critical, there is literally a couple of days there and there is already a window again. it's normal, very, very cool that you

could go up to the rocket right together to look at it, which yes, really. here it exists, and then we have already observed when the start of excitement. yes, from the very beginning when people get out they wave, they get in the car and go to their launch pad to their rocket and until the moment they enter the station, of course. all this in such an emotional mixture. let's say. so it's a joy, of course , because it's a journey of 10 years. this is not a small thing. yes indeed 10 years. this is just such a segment of life. let's say. well, do you remember the first call there is a station, what do you want? yes, of course, and when it happened, and it happened at that moment of launch, they flew. they are about a day, yes, a little more. here they are a little more than a day

flew. so, uh, later, when they called me, you said back in america that yes, everything is cool. everything is great. well, you remember this phone. there is also a special telephone. no, you can't call him there. no there is not. at least you'll know what you missed, what should you call? and i don't know, i don't think you can confuse him with anything. it's just that when you see a number that starts with a plus one, it's not quite usual for russia anyway, and you understand that someone is in space, you are unlikely to lose it. yes, really very good. let's fantasize. you think, as a professional coach teacher, what will a person do in space in 50 years. wow , given that 60 euros is space. that's about the same leap forward, given how technology is developing now. mm,

what in general? yes, our humanity is more and more and more gaining the speed of development, we fantasize. yes, i think that for some next 30 years this will be a landing on the moon . already with the establishment of some kind of stationary bases there, or at least near lunar stations on the lunar orbit, yes, yes on the lunar orbit precisely and further advancement to mars. i think that in 50 years of mars we will reach it should happen. i'm not sure if there's going to be an apple blossom station there, but i think someone will make it to mars. let's hope. let's hope hope. we hope so, unfortunately, time flew by very quickly with space corruption today at a party. i had alexander serdyuk, a senior coach, a teacher in physical training at the cosmonauts training center, and anton shklarov. and it was

a space history podcast. all issues podcast project. lad. you can look at the website of the first channel one tv dot ru hello, here is a literary hint. let them not speak, let them read. my name is dmitry buck. today we will talk about a person who, uh, is not only a great poet or playwright, but a person who, with his whole life, has made a huge contribution to the national culture and to the demeanor and fashion style. this is vladimir vladimirovich mayakovsky this year. we are celebrating 130 years since the fire of his birth, and today we are talking about mayakovsky with our wonderful guests. this

marina mikhailovna krasnova, head of the department of the house of the pointed-eared in tubes in the museum , which bears the proud name of the vladimir ivanovich state museum of the history of russian literature, was given hello marina from anton dmitrievich buglak, actor of the satire theater hello anton hello, let's start, perhaps the most important thing. and what does mayakovsky mean for a modern person ? may be sharpness, yes, yes, sometimes sharpness , this is, uh, this is, probably, youthful youth remained in him. eh, until the end of his life, it is certainly absolutely projected in his poems, the young agree. i absolutely agree. it is surprising to me that there are such personalities who every year more and more bulge in terms of popularity. ranevskaya mironov vysotsky, including

mayakovsky, is very interesting, but the group of public social networks that fill up is performed and this is not e. well, let's say not. just a stylization like, well, there any 13-year-old girl who finds herself in st. petersburg takes a selfie, two cancers of the well and writes brodsky knows something, she doesn’t understand anything, that it ’s just him so bad, maybe she will come to reset. here is a slightly different moment, it seems to me that if we remove ideology, in general, from this poetry, which is now difficult to perceive for young people remains. eh, the lyrics, the early ones are very sincere, and this is probably catchy and, probably, some kind of satire. here for me personally a lot of satirical, well, fine anton's thesis is wonderfully touching to the younger generation, so some range of fire in my heart. well, it's necessary, you think, who is there? it seems to me that this gives the right

to remove? here is this superficial reverence, when at school they say it is such and such, therefore, it is so such and such, therefore, but really a young man reads and he likes it, and he treats him like a contemporary. well , indeed mayakovsky is the author of such absolute discoveries, for example, hard poetry. there are only three systems of all expansions, only three rhythms. one such skill doses. the fruit of a short science, rest in peace, not forcing my hands to peru, but the second pushkin my uncle, the most honest rules, and finally. listen, comrades, descendants of the gorlan agitator, it was mayakovsky who came up with a new system of versification, and it is completely different. well, let's try to read. i remember a wonderful moment, as if like this on the lighthouse with an accent verse. i remember a wonderful moment. you appeared in front of me, yes, it's amazing. uh, extracting from traditional russian verse. uh, absolutely new notes well, uh

marina, but still, if we talk about earlier mayakovsky, then poetry is dissolved in his other skills. he's not only a poet and not so much a poet. he still does not know himself as a poet. he is studying to be an artist. he is looking for himself in the profession. he doesn't really understand yet, the artist. he, but he wants to be more than just an artist. he also positions himself outwardly as an artist. he wears uh, hmm jar jacket, that's where it comes in handy. us his images earlier with this unthinkable tie. it's all poverty from poverty, really. yes , but i think that this is also a search for our own some external identity, because and what do teenagers, for example , dye their hair in different colors at the age of 17-18, and put on earrings and or some completely unimaginable clothes. tops does the

same. he is looking for himself in the same way. well , this is mayakovsky and what kind of poems does he write anton let's maybe read, maybe the most famous poem of genius, i'm not afraid of this word. yes , of course, i mean, could you. i immediately smeared the map of everyday life, splashing paint from a glass. i showed on a dish of jelly oblique cheekbones of the ocean on the scales of a tinfish. i read the tongues of new lips. and you? nocturne could play on the flute of the drainpipes short, genius poem what's here? the main thing is that the artist reports strokes to the canvas. yes, here he smeared the map of everyday life, that your jackson shelves, yes, which splashes

paint, but such an absolute avant-garde artist is why nocturne is not played on flutes. and, and she drainpipes, this is futurism. yes, here's a play on all life, yes unconditionality express yourself. well, here, me it seems that there is another point, of course, that mayakovsky is absolutely ubanist and in his early poems, it is the city that appears as a living organism, so there are enough pipes for this. therefore, the lantern takes off, uh, the black stocking, it is part of this city. and uh that is why in verse he perceives him as such a dear person, not just uh some kind of architecture. and as a living absolutely living person, the second nature. you correctly said the word urbanism, the city is not the enemy of nature. this is the new nature

which modern man lives, therefore, by the way, in the famous phrase from e, a slap in the face of the public taste of the manifesto, e, which has four authors, including mayakovsky, there is a phrase let's throw pushkin tolstoy and dostoevsky from the steamers of our time. it is very important. eh, mayakovsky lives in the city and in the city he experiences very vivid feelings. eh he loves about it. we will talk more than once, and maybe anton you will read a fragment from his wonderful poem xv-x-15, which was published in the fourteenth year. a a cloud in my pants could not recognize me now . a sinewy hulk groans, writhing, that such a lump might want, but a lot of lumps . after all, it doesn’t matter for yourself, and the fact that bronze and the fact that the heart of the cold iron at night wants its ringing. hide in a soft in

a woman's and now a huge stoop in the window i melt the glass of the window with my forehead. will there be love or not? what is the big one? or a tiny amazing text, we know that all this is connected with maria denisova i will come, at four said maria eight nine ten andrey sinyavsky, the most famous patriotic a literary critic later an émigré and a very great connoisseur of russian literature. i remember he counted the passage from the cloud in his pants so that the watchmen began to avoid him, thinking that something had happened. he said, so i will come, at four she said, mary eight nine. this is amazing sincerity. you won't understand clouds in your pants. is it rebellion or just sincerity. there

are also slogans down with your art. down with your love. yes, the main thing here is love or protest. that's what's important, but it seems to me that one does not separate the other my cats do not separate, and love is for him it is and uh, at the same time a revolution and and i think not by chance later. he will write that love is the heart of everything, and poems and deeds and everything else unfolds from him, this is an absolutely key concept for him. that is why he writes equally passionately about the country and about women and about, and hmm the revolution about this a little later, because, of course, we must come up. here to this screen to this filter, yes, which between us and the text mayakovsky tribune of the revolution and so on, this is a little later. and now we'll talk more

about one side. here is creativity. you said that he is a professional artist, who is specially studying to be an artist, and in the future he will be famous for his uh, graphic works, windows of growth, but there is also mayakovsky in the cinema. let's not forget about it. these are the very first years of national cinema. yes it is, of course. couldn't get around everything that's definitely new. he was interested. and of course, he wanted to be everywhere, but the first, and cinema - this is about the same as a podcast now, right? or public, yes, or block, well, in fact. yes, of course he wanted to be heard. and as many people as possible, so that you can see as many people as possible a and cinema in this regard, of course, a was, er, thus, a a springboard from which it was possible to speak with the world.

not just with some small audience, but with the world, and well, here, of course, there are still moments that lilya brik, uh, to mention, of course, did not want to act in films and especially for her, for example, mayakovsky wrote the script for the film chained films. let's talk about the movie born not for money, born not for money lily we'll talk more, of course. here, uh, just uh frame from this film and well, the well-known fact that the script is based on the model of jack london's novel martin eden where a person dreams of accomplishments, but only this is soviet martin eden, his surname ivanov is only broken in half ivan nov. yes and so, uh, in this film , mayakovsky also plays a role. moreover, it is known that he seems to be even dissatisfied with the screenwriter or director. he well and he, of course, all the films in which he starred

he's still involved in writing the script. and in general, even always interacts with the director. this is also such a feature of anton, as if they looked, if you win some role, you are busy with several well-known and atrophy performances and suddenly cross some boundaries and start pointing out. all the way to do it. actually, if we talk about dramaturgy, for example, and it has always been a common thing when ostrovsky is in a small theater or chekhov is a director, well, after all, they could work now. and bulgakov, too, they worked, here and now they went from the artist from the director. uh, so to speak, a question in the form of a mm remark, but as it is said, but, in principle, this is normal and a synthesis. well, okay. well, there is still one exception, well, what was episodically an actor, but not chekhov , the nerovsky saint, were not actors. they

gave. well, even gogol once gave instructions to the actors who will play the auditor, but mayakovsky’s whole thing is right from the inside. yes, of course, but, in fact, and yet, mayakovsky still remained meikovsky. and whatever role he assumes applied, but still he remained a difficult to separate. e him to walk, in fact , brik played himself, the famous e, the heroine of the fate of mayakovsky mayakovsky lilia yuryevna brik, born kogan a hmm , which was probably mayakovsky's deepest affection throughout his life. but this was written right for her. yes, he writes especially for her, and of course, he is removed. yes, to play along with her, to play along with her, and my cat

is playing. ah, the artist. she plays the girl came down crying. this is a scientific one, yes, again, modernity, that is, a computer reality that passes into life, and moreover, mayakovsky was going to write a sequel, unfortunately, this story did not work out. and so it would be, in general, like modern films, the first part of the second part, that is , in this he too, but he stepped over time, in general, he largely crossed seconds for a bicycle. the movie, how long it was. well, how familiar it would be with temporary viewers. well actually a small piece of this film has been preserved, but in full, that is, the film was not usually preserved. well, usually these films were played by young ladies-hooligans last for 40 minutes, for example, a man.

yes, not my film, but already the funeral is quite voluminous and lengthy, but the most important thing is that here, uh, there was such a ruling moment, yes, because according to the film, uh, the lady who is shackled to the film, then they said in the feminine form of the film she is therefore not a mistake. she then leaves again, yes, to the cinema there in this plane of the screen. well, they sawed the yurna, and hmm didn’t belong completely to mayakovsky, you can probably say so, yes, yes, but again, it’s also interesting, in general, everything that concerns cinema, but because it was not born for money. this is also about the poet ivan nov and, in fact, too. eh, in some way there is some kind of prophetic story , yes, which they took place in exactly the same way mayakovsky's death in a bully young lady, when he is killed, but, but this is such a bright death completely, and

then you already endure. it's in some other plane, when you look, it's in the cinema now. well, what about our literary podcast? let them tell me, let me read the presenters dmitry bug, i’m talking today with marina krasva, and an employee of the state museum of russian literature named after vladimir ivanovich dal, specialists in mayakovsky’s work and with the actor of the satire theater anton buglak. i remember, uh, the book of yuri korpchievsky essay, the article of the resurrection of mayakovsky, who also repeated. unfortunately his fate is yuri korpchievsky. uh, for the first time, perhaps, in the late eighties. yes , it was the first time i looked at mayakovsky without. hey, these are the same filters. yes, because an anecdote came to me that when they were preparing an exhibition of 20 years of work for reproduction and konstantin mikhailovich simonov had a hand in this, thank god,

the officialdom shone, uh, they offered well, mayakovsky's biography well, somehow to clean up these risky moments. and lily yurievna is just a risky moment. yes? well, yes, yes, the conflict between a lily brik and lyudmila mayakovskaya and, accordingly, an attempt to somehow clean up this story, yes, and from the biography of mayakovsky a but in general to smooth mayakovsky is very difficult, as it seems to me, about such a phrase that there is supposedly someone there, i don’t know if this is true or not. well, well invented b-senone, bow, only the italians say that is, even if it's not true, it's good invented yes, uh, someone allegedly said that you now say that you are a suicide. well, what to do, not a banal suicidal person who could not bear the fire of the heart and creative love yes, this is really very yakovskiy. now let's take a step uh to

our next hmm those big mayakovsky and after the revolution. eh, he also predicted revolution. yes, in the thorns of the revolution , the sixteenth year is coming, i made a mistake today. we know that every revolution passes, then into a termetarian phase into a reactionary one, it often turns into a dictatorship, turns into a lack of freedom. well, how to describe these years that mayakovsky had already spent. hmm soviet time in soviet reality, because there were contradictory things. there were wonderful things, for example, he continued to be an artist of the rostock window. tell us about them, they are actually stored in our museum. despite the fact that this, and such was a waste, in fact, work, because that huge circulations, and up to 100 posters a day. you have already drawn by hand, but then again

, what makek's growth window comes up with to make it clear. these are news sheets, because no. no, e internet, and growth is the russian telegraph agency. it's only now that mayakovsky is coming. uh, respectively , to work in this telegraph agency, then these were large texts, a small picture, and he says, you need to change the system so it will not work. most of the population does not know how to read what mayakovsky did very well. he understand who he is doing what for? slogan author? yes, if she lives with ryabchikov , everyone knows it, yes, who e even has no idea about what mayakovskaya was doing in the windows of russians now, the target audience is saying this. he very accurately understood the people of the group. yes, yes, yes , he traded the plane of understanding of the audience , he removes all the text, but he now reduces it to a minimum. these are short phrases, and the main

focus is on the pictures, in fact. these are such soviet comics, too, very a-ah, generalized. yes, this is also a very important point. he, for example, plays on color, and he uses, for example, a red color to denote the soviet power of a worker, and illness and everything connected with it. it is such a greenish color, and the bourgeoisie and everything connected with it has always been introduced or had some kind of blue color, that is, it works with color. it affects the viewer here. whatever you want, it's no longer media, it's just some kind of psychology of perception. yes, uh, really. this is the side of mayakovsky's life, but rather positively. here we see the cover of mayakovsky's book about this with lily brik depicted on it and yet,

how mayakovsky combined the personal common with the public, because the soviet reality of even those first romantic years of the twenties, and yet it is emphasis on the collective on the general on the cathedral on the social on the class, and about this it means about the intimate, of course, the mayakovskys came up with exactly this, but at the same time, for example, it is with this poem that the first number opens, and the left front of the arts is not the lion of the beast, but the left front is an abbreviation. well, although there is also consonance with leo, it is not accidental leo left front art of this particular poem is revealed, because on the one hand it is about the personal, but on the other hand. this is about the general, and it was very important for mayakovsky to emphasize this. and by the way, it is in the poem about this that mayakovsky's famous ladder first appears. and before that, he does not break the verse. yes , in fact, a lot

and more were accused for this, by the way, contemporaries. so they said and, uh, questions were also asked, but in this way mayakovsky wants to be closer to the reader here in this book, an insert topic hmm. well, if not tragedy, then drama, because that, after all, his relationship with the lilina, but developed unevenly. sometimes it's widely known. sometimes. they put themselves to the test, tried to part for a certain amount of time in the same and there is a story of writing that she forbade forbidden to see each other. yes, he is with her and there. i am completely cut off from life , saleswomen laugh at me. and he came, either new year's eve, or christmas eve, er, the twenty-second of the twenty-third year. brick, he went nuts there and began to write a poem about this very important thing. this is my question anyway. uh,

allowed personal, but in the soviet years. the first, of course. uh, wedding christmas trees. speaking of religious ceremonies, all this was crossed out. come on, how embarrassing to be intimately vulnerable, you have to be powerful just uh, this poem is about that too, but, because it’s just about and about the fight against philistinism, a topic that was very important for mayakovsky and uh, this is, uh, personal in general, because the idea of ​​the commune is the idea of ​​​​living as a common human being from life. this is exactly what he is talking about here. yes, there is a tragedy, and uh, without it would be difficult for her. although, uh, it was the poem about this that had drafts and it is clear how he is trying to smooth out this tragedy as much as it was harder for him at that moment. how sick he was, because he really is in a confined space. he is sitting in the room. it is 11 m². and in the room there is one

window, and in another place. and he is, yes, he is , uh, the only thing that connects is the phone cord. and this, too, in general, is just such a main, connecting link in this poem, the connection, and the lubyanka passage and myasnitskaya well, of course, it is very important to remember and know what the first edition of mayakovsky's books looked like, because, well, it was not without reason that he called his books. so catchy, for example, me or vladimir mayakovsky so that the books would not be confused, he also looked very bright. and that's the brightness, uh, and the color of the cover. eh, maybe we didn’t see all the covers like that and the color wasn’t exactly the same, because in my hands, of course, a modern reproduction. they are a genuine book, but nonetheless. they were bright colors. it was like this, a kegel

large font size, which is very important, these books are being published now. it is very inexpensive, they are not collectible. i highly recommend to all of you who do not talk about reading, of course, to pick up these books - it is quite easy to see how, for example, a poem looked like a cloud in the pants of the fifteenth year or a flute spine. this is also a great edition. here is its full reproduction. here is a huge comment, it is very important that modern literary critics devote such extensive comments to mayakovsky and his texts. after all they are much longer than the text itself, but uh , let's look at this as simple as a lowing book of the sixteenth year, too, and it is reproduced from a unique copy. there is. uh, mayakovsky's edits and other states are used just for the first time, and ,

of course, alexander rodchenko makes photos in the form of an illustration of rodchenko. and the cover is also what is left of us from several images or is it a legend? uh, there is only one shooting, although it is used, just modern ah , modern artists use this image, because it is really very bright, and in various variations, so this is also such an interesting story with a sequel. well , mayakovsky connects, as it were, such poles on the one hand, he is still, loving , vulnerable. this is exactly how yuri korpchievsky kopchevsky rediscovered. he says that this is the revived hero of dostoevsky, this is exactly a powerful man, large, loud and vulnerable, like a child. it's very accurate. well, it’s interesting, for example, memoirs of the roots of ivanovich chukovsky, which a says that and when i first read mayakovsky i saw, only his texts were not yet with him acquaintances. it seemed to me that he was so small and fragile, it turned out that he was the same as himself, tchaikovsky they are the same